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evildick 06-03-2001 09:31 AM

Is posting submitted pictures illegal?(also Photoshop experts please read this)
 
I am running a contest this month on one of my sites where I ask people to send in pictures of themselves nude displaying my web site address somewhere on their body or in the picture. The most creative entry wins one of my crappy T-shirts at the end of June.

I clearly state the contest is only open to those 18 years of age and older in the U.S. and Canada.

Once someone submits me a picture I ask them to send me another email stating the following:

"I hereby certify I am the person in the picture(s) I emailed to you and that I was 18 years of age or older when the photo was taken."

Am I asking for trouble, or does this cover my butt good enough? How do all those huge amateur sites that accept submitted pictures protect themselves? I realize people that shoot their own content need signed release papers and proof of identification, etc., but there is no way big sites like watchersweb.com, for example, get release papers and proof of ID from everyone that submits pictures of themselves to them.

[This message has been edited by evildick (edited 06-03-2001).]

UnseenWorld 06-03-2001 09:44 AM

First of all, you can't mimick watchersweb.com, because a WHOIS reveals they are located outside the US. I assume (am I right?) you are in the US, so you are subject to our legal system, not the one in New South Wales, Australia.

When you receive a submission, you should ask for documentation as well. If they mail submissions in, they can mail in a photocopy of their driver's license (or other acceptable photo ID) and one additional supplementary ID (which need not be a photo ID, though you'll be more comfortable if it is). BTW, make sure to tell them that their face needs to match the one in the photo, so that both the photo and the ID should clearly show the person's face, to establish identity.)

Oh, yeah, and DO check the ID items to make sure that the submitter actually is 18 or older.

If they are sending you submissions electronicall (as e-mail attachments, for example), presumably if they can scan a photo, they can scan ID items as well. Why not ask for what will make you perfectly safe?

Then, there's the matter of a release. You should put a basic one on your site and require that it be filled out and submitted along with the photo and ID items. Feel free to "borrow" this release and discuss it with your attorney, who knows what local laws prevail:
http://www.girlsdotcom.com/nude/release.htm

If you can't do this right, don't do it at all. It's way too risky.

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evildick 06-03-2001 09:56 AM

I'm actually in Canada, but I assume our laws our pretty similar to the U.S. when it comes to this sort of thing.

I think I might scrap the whole idea. I don't feel like going to jail this month for the sake of a measly T-shirt contest.

RedShoe 06-03-2001 10:04 AM

I've plugged this guy several times but only because he's good. He knows his shit. Go to xxxlaw.com and ask him. Trust me he'll tell you everything you need to know.

Also, I don't consider myself an expert, but I don't think that text was added with a computer. I think it's legit.
It's too hard to add font on a curve, and if they did it on a computer, they would probably not have to scrunch up the "m" in ".com"



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wiZd0m 06-03-2001 10:08 AM

Evildick, ever tought of asking the rcmp's? I think it's them who handle this in your province no? They will tell you where to get a liscense, how to, the requirements, everything.

They are very nice and helpful people, that is, until you brake the law http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

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UnseenWorld 06-03-2001 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wiZd0m:
Evildick, ever tought of asking the rcmp's? I think it's them who handle this in your province no? They will tell you where to get a liscense, how to, the requirements, everything.

They are very nice and helpful people, that is, until you brake the law http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif



Wow! I'd NEVER ask a US law enforcement officer, local or Federal, a question about what I do. Maybe from a phone booth way in the back of a K-Mart or something. I'd be pretty afraid they'd get drop in (with a warrant) for a look-see. Not that I'm doing anything wrong, but just being investigated can be an inconvenience that can all but shut a business down.


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Phil21 06-03-2001 09:05 PM

Er, I didn't see the original font question.. But I'm assuming it's a question about a picture with some sort of text added to it (like only at www.freeporn.com do you find this girl!)

It is VERY easy to place an image automagically over another image. I can write a perl script in about 30 minutes do "watermark" every image in a directory with another smaller image.

So basicall you have your "font" in a tiny .jpg, and have a program overlay that jpeg onto all the pics you want it done to.


Of course, that may not have been the question at all, but I didn't want to risk the chance that you were mis-informed if it were. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

-Phil

wiZd0m 06-03-2001 09:12 PM

UnseenWorld, I don't know why people think like that, it's not like we live in a police state you know! I run porn websites, does that makes me a criminal suspect? Gimme a break, we have a charter to protect ourselves and rights as citizens. Remember, the police is there to protect us, not repress us. If you ask them, they will refer you to the right place to know the law. You can even ask an investigator if you really want to know where the line is.

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UnseenWorld 06-04-2001 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wiZd0m:
UnseenWorld, I don't know why people think like that, it's not like we live in a police state you know! I run porn websites, does that makes me a criminal suspect? Gimme a break, we have a charter to protect ourselves and rights as citizens. Remember, the police is there to protect us, not repress us. If you ask them, they will refer you to the right place to know the law. You can even ask an investigator if you really want to know where the line is.


You live in Montreal? This is what can happen in "the land of the free and the home of the brave":
http://www.greeleytrib.com/article.php?sid=1040

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wiZd0m 06-04-2001 12:44 AM

Where the fuck is that? There is no sheriff in Quebec nor in Montreal. And we are not the USA, don't bring their system as an exemple. In fact, you can't even compare Canada and Quebec for Civil rights either since we have a different system for that too ;-)

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wiZd0m 06-04-2001 12:58 AM

Oh, I just noticed your from Portland, and in USA. You live in a police state man and forget about your rights, they are all being taken away one by one.

Just a quick question, how many death by bullets in your town last year?

We are the second biggest city in Canada and we had less then 50 for the entire year. Things are peacefull around here. Sure we have crime too, but never at the level you guys are at in the USA.

That's why the police mentally is different here. You guy shoot first and ask question later. Thats the american way ...

Here you really have to do bad things to get arrested.


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boneprone 06-04-2001 03:06 AM

Honestly, I wouldnt worry about it.

The other guys here dont know dick about adult webmastering and are just worry warts.

Keep up the good work. And dont even worry about any documentation.. Its all bogus hype.. Fuck it, you are untouchable.. Its all propganda and you will be just fine.

boneprone 06-04-2001 03:08 AM

Besides, from what my attorney tells me, there is internet usage nowdays for inmates in the minimum security prisons.. You can use the time as quiet time away from home and get some real work done without the distractions of everyday life.

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sydpic 09-04-2003 04:34 PM

Why not ask the Watchersweb.com people what they think.They are very approachable and they have there own in house lawyer.I believe the boss 's email addy is [email protected]

Syd

DerekT 09-04-2003 06:59 PM

Make the people who submit photos agree to a legal document before posting. This would make them responsible for the content they submit and would ideminfy you of any wrong doing. Gather their IP address, date, time of submission and log it to a file, that way you have some documentation to back.

Sample Document
Quote:

When submitting photos or movies you agree to the following:
?I will only submit my own amateur photos or movies.
?I state that I am the copyright owner of any photos or movies I submit.
?I will not submit photos or movies downloaded from other sources.
?I will not submit photos or movies with website URLs.
?I will not submit photos or movies with copyright notices.
?I state that all subjects appearing in my photos or movies are at least 18 years of age.
?I will provide the necessary documentation and identification to prove any subject
is 18 years of age if requested.
?I give permission to the owners of SITE NAME to use any photos or movies
in any manner without any expectation of compensation.
?I am aware that the owners of SITE NAME reserve the right to remove any photo
or movie for any reason.

All photos, movies and comments express the views of the user posting the material
and the owners of SITE NAME will not be responsible for their content. By posting any photos,
movies or comments you are stating that you accept absolute and full legal responsibility and
liability for its content. You also state that you will indemnify the owners of SITE NAME should it
be determined that you are not the actual owner of any photos or movies you have submitted.



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