Trump about to cause termoil by Recognizing Jerusalem as Israels Capitol
 

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital on Wednesday and announced plans to relocate the US Embassy there, a move expected to inflame tensions in the region and unsettle the prospects for peace.

"I have determined that it is time to officially recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel," Trump said from White House's Diplomatic Reception Room. "After more than two decades of waivers, we are no closer to a lasting peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians."
The move signaled a willingness on Trump's part to prioritize fulfilling a campaign promise over the consensus among US allies in the region and beyond that the decision could stymie the peace process and increase security risks in a region that is already on edge.
"Today, I am delivering," Trump said, referencing his campaign promise.

Trump recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital - CNNPolitics

Simply recognized the reality. Senates (both democrat and republicans) were for it as well (in case libbies tries to go "republicans", "right wing" etc).
Stalling on this issue had no results.

Beautifully explained (watch before posting):

It IS Israel's capitol.

Yeah, that is simply just stating the fact. Some would prefer ignoring the truth to "feel better".

bleh....

Why ????

Just heard a guy on one of the news channels quip:
The U.S. govt has been searching for the capital of Israel for 70 years...turns out it was in Jerusalem the entire time. lol

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Trumpah Ahbar :pimp

I failed to understand the point in any of this. Like everything else Trump does, it's like he makes a decision based on "what is the worst thing to do". There is no up side to this, and only bad things will come from it.

And yet the Senate just voted UNANIMOUSLY to do it. Every Senator...Democrat and Republican.

And they do it every year.

Why would they do that Rochard, if it's so bad? And why would we continue to act delusional and pretend that we don't know Jerusalem IS the capital of Israel?

If you really think about it...it's stupid to pretend that we don't know Jerusalem is the capital. Especially when every world leader goes to JERUSALEM to meet with Israeli leaders in the capital.
And while every country has their Embassy in Tel Aviv...they don't do anything there. They all drive to JERUSALEM to their respective consul buildings and do their ambassador work there.

It's like a giant hallucination in effect there. lol

Can you imagine how stupid it would be if all country's moved their embassy's out of Washington D.C. to Atlanta and declared the U.S. didn't even have a capital?

You do know that EVERY President in modern times promised to do this during the campaigns to get elected (they LIED).
Including your hero President Obama and non-President Hillary Clinton.

I'm guessing that if President Obama had actually kept his word and had the balls to do the right thing on this...you would be praising it to the sky's (as would the media).

But of course it's Trump. So it's automatically EVIL. :(

What bad things will this cause? Please explain

I can see some logic to this. To theorize why may give up the game.

in 1948 jews made up less than 1/3 of the population of the territory called palestine...a huge number of them were refugees...huge <---this

colonial powers decided to gift away land that did not belong to them...these same colonial powers did not want the jews on their own land...fuck no...

then came the jews and told the palestines "according to our holy books our ancestors own this, move the fuck out"

the palestines were bad sports about their land being gifted away by people who do not even own it on account of something written in some holy book...

then the jews started to complain how the whole arab world around them was being a bad sport about colonial powers gifting away land that does not belong to them...they were like "we got this land gifted and now we want peace and status quo LOL"

70 years later some fuckboy from the USA and a professionally morally corrupt senate decide to strike the final nail in the coffin of any chances of israeli-palestinian peace...they recognize the stolen land of jerusalem as property of the minority that got land gifted...

the palestinians are really being bad sports about this if you ask americans...oh and keep refugees out of the USA :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

fucking hilarious...

anyway the moral of the story is: nuke the fuck up...

Well that ranks up there with one of the stupidest questions ever asked.

Are you really that uninformed about international politics ?

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Clashes in Bethlehem following Trump’s ‘Jerusalem move’
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Hey.. you guys know that Obama had already recognized Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel?

"Any negotiated agreement between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, he said, “must preserve Israel's identity as a Jewish state with secure, recognized, defensible borders. And Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided.”

he just chose not to move the embassy for security reasons...because you know, he actually weighs the pros and cons of an action. many lives will be lost on both sides over this decision. For what? Because Jared Kushner asked him?

It's a little bit more complicated than that, don't you think?

It seems Israel occupied Jerusalem in 1967 by force, and in 1980 declared it the capital of Israel by creating a new national law. However, in 1980, the UN declared this law "null and void". At the same time, the international community, including the US, officially regards East Jerusalem as occupied territory. All embassies are based in Tel Aviv and always have been.

You said "And why would we continue to act delusional and pretend that we don't know Jerusalem IS the capital of Israel?" but the reality is no one accepts Jerusalem has the capital of Israel.

This isn't about how evil Trump is, or my "hero" Obama, etc. This is about common sense. If Obama did this I would say the same thing. This makes no sense, everyone has their embassies in Tel Aviv, this is going to cost us hundreds of millions of dollars, and it's going to going to piss off a lot of people.

Haha because of Trump? The middle east is and has always been a hell hole. I wouldnt give 2 shits if was wiped of the face of the earth.

Maybe ask your state department ?

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No, I'm more informed than 99% of you idiots. My question was specifically designed to bait you into giving the responses that you did. It sounds like people are worried about backlash. Backlash from whom, exactly? Are you afraid Muslims will get violent? But I thought that was the religion of peace?? Hey dumbasses, Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. People need to accept this fact before there can be any peace. Just like Trump said.

The danger is it will damage the peace talks. What peace talks are they? Muslims and Jews will never make peace. Jerusalem was a Jewish City until it was seized by an invading army of Muslims https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_...636–637)

The Crusades tried to retake it. Now Jewish military might has might has triumphed. If you live by the sword you die by the sword. Muslims are bitching over the facts they can't organize an invasion force again. Well, not an effective one. The US taxpayers helped build the one they have.

In 636?637 Islam invaded the Jewish capital of Jerusalem. Who have a greater claim.

https://www.mq.edu.au/__data/assets/...ern-Israel.png

Can you see how the liberals want to delete the truth? They missed out the Muslim Invasion.

Trump wants people to die in conflict it makes his small ego & little hands feel powerful

How are you THIS uninformed? :1orglaugh




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^^ Fake nic

Not at all. What happened in 637 is hardly relevant.

If a country - or a race - has been in place in a city for over a thousand years, that is pretty much that.

Can you show me where they vote on this "every year"? All I can find is a law passed in 1995.

In fact, no.... According to law passed in 1995, there is a provision to postpone this "move" simply by the President signing a wavier. Presidents Clinton, Bush, and Obama signed this waiver every six months. Trump also signed this waiver.

The United Nations passed a resolution saying they do not Jerusalem as their capital, nor do any of the other countries accept Jerusalem as the capital.

This isn't like suddenly saying Washington DC is no longer our capital, but instead the United States invading Mexico, occupying Tijuana, and suddenly declaring Tijuana is our capital. I understand Israel wants Jerusalem to be their capital, but it's an occupied city, and they only occupy half of it.

Nuke up or get fucked by the west...

>The Crusades tried to retake it
The Crusades - it was responding to Muslim jihad(war spread Islam - terrorism) which was before

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No. The Senate voted UNANIMOUSLY again this year to do it. That means ALL the Democrats (your hero's) voted to do it.

EVERY Presidential candidate in modern times has vowed to do it.
Only Trump actually told the truth and DID what he promised.

It's not more complicated than that.

As for your dissertation on Jerusalem... as usual you are completely UN-informed.
Jerusalem was split in half in 1947 after WW2. Half to Israel (which became their capital) and half to JORDAN.

In the 6 day war of 1967 Israel captured ALL of that territory.

Jerusalem is the capital. You can say you don't "like" that. But it's a FACT and has been since 1947.

Jerusalem is one of the oldest cities in the world Rochard. And it's been captured and held by different people's 44 times over thousands of years. It's even been completely destroyed twice.

Lots of people can claim ancient possession of the city.
Just like Native Americans can theoretically claim ancient possession of your house.

But to the winners go the spoils.

Maybe if Germany had won WW2 instead of us...then none of this would be happening right now as there would be no Israel.
But we won. Get over it.

And there you go!
Bush and Obama LYING THEIR ASSES OFF.

Trump actually did what they lied and didn't do.

But yeah...it's a "Bad" idea now that it's Trump.

The media was praising it when Obama said he would do it. Hypocrisy...

If only America and the UK had thought that when they gave Israel to European Jews. We would all be better off.

Not as much as the Muslims who do the killings.

Personally, I think the US should cut all funding to Isreal. They continue to steal lands, ignore the UN and should be forced into giving more away to the Palestinians. But that does not change the fact that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel where Embassies need to be.

This is just paper and terrorists need no excuses to do the unexcusable.

Yes dear you are so well informed.

Clown.

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Yup. This. ^^^





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Link. Give me a link that shows they voted for this. I couldn't find anything.

"When President @realDonaldTrump announced that it is time to officially recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, he fulfilled another campaign promise, in addition to those that go back 25 years...."
https://twitter.com/DanScavino/statu...64482380509184

If I had two nuclear weapons, I would use them on Israel and Saudi Arabia. The world would be a better place.

If I had only one nuclear weapon, I would use it on the US. While I'm in it.

It's all going that way anyway.

This is amazing. They all said they would do it, and yet NONE of them did it. In fact, all of them signed waivers to prevent this. Not just once mind you - every six months.

Can someone explain to me why?

I can explain why.... It's a bad fucking idea. This is what they wanted to hear at these events, but everyone knows it's a bad idea. That's why it wasn't done.

it doesn't matter, that's not the point. What you're saying is you prefer a president who says he will do something, and when he's in office he says 'fuck it, not gonna do it'! I know that is always how politics have worked: For example promising lower taxes to the people - nope not gonna do it!

It is insane to me that you rather have a presidential candidate that would lie right in your face of what they're gonna do when they're president, and when they're president they don't do anything what they promised you. Than a president who actually does what he promised the voters he would do.... Do you live in an alternate reality? Are you in an upside down world? Do you live in Bizarro world? Completely insane!

your historic facts are right but if you look before 636-637 you will find another answer.

beside that - using your argument americans should give the country back to the indians.

usa and many other countries have officially stated jerusalem as the capital of israel but
with very good reasons they never made this official move because it was a negotiation instrument and something what the muslim world dreaded. now pandora's box is open and you can not close it anymore.

it is one thing if NK get blamed with UN resolutions and called "a bad place" but it is another thing to drop the first bomb on them.
and it is another thing to accept jerusalem as israels official capital or moving the embassy there.
earlier presidents did not do it because they have been light years wiser than trump.

from now on USA will sit in the same boat with israel - no matter what they do (and no - they are not only doing good things there).
USA will now be even a greater target for islamic terrorists and the islam fundamentalism
will spread much faster.

i don´t know if this guy did not learn from 9/11 and saw that you can not eliminate the fundamental terror with the strongest army in the world.
they are not an army - they are hundreds of millions and millions of individuals spread over the whole planet and many of them have an american passport and are born there.
they are not to beat with hate and weapons. they are not afraid to die. same as the vietnamese haven´t been afraid to die.

isreal got used to be a terror target 365 days per year.
USA will have to learn it from now on and you can thank you to trump who obviously is so dement that he forgot all the examples from the history and where they was leading to.

the really big question what should be asked is: WHO IS LEFT ON THIS PLANET ON THE SIDE OF AMERICA SINCE TRUMP ???
Isreal? - What is that in compare to BILLIONS of enemies ?

No.

This is not I want a President in office who promises one thing and then says "fuck it" once in office. Clinton, Bush, and Obama did the wrong thing - they promised "X" and then failed to deliver. Instead I would much rather have Clinton, Bush, and Obama stand up and do the right thing - promise NOT to make this happen.

The reason they Clinton, Bush, and Obama said they would do it was because they wanted to show Israel they support them, but when they got into office they quickly figured out this could never happen. Our entire policy for the middle east is a "two-state solution". By doing this, it destroys our entire middle east policy - and there is so "plan b" here.

Trump - with all of his wisdom and political experience - just destroyed any chance for peace in the middle east.

This is exactly why all three past presidents did not do this.

Everyone knows that if it were another country stealing land, oppressing a minority, the US would be up in arms about it. So why give Israel a free ride?

Is the answer based on race?

What peace in the Middle East? Sorry but the situation in the middle east can't get any worse than the invasions and it's destructive chain reaction to the world during Bush and Obama.