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elliso 03-01-2016 12:03 PM

PPL Or RevShare ??
 
I am currently with a Program which pay me 12USD Per LEAD FROM 3Countries :-)

they can pay even more depend on Quality of Your traffic....

actually after i have seen afew thread about cams i decided to ask this question?
should i Go revshare or stay in PPL ???


I am pushing them and my ratio is 1/12 but i wonder should i switch off Revshare as i get 40sales per Month. Not Every Month of course but almost......

To be Honest i am Happy with resulte on PPL Although i have a big Iusse as ONLY 20% who confirm thier email and others not EXMAPLE !!

THIS MONTH ( TOTAL NUMBER OF LEAD 3000LEAD )
ONLY 400LEAD WHO CONFIRMED THIER EMAIL ADDRESS is That Normal ?

Of Course Not, as i tested on other programs and leads confirmed easily so it s matter of system of confirmation which means afew sites let you in even if you do not confirm email and others You have to ( Oblige ) To entre code to verifiy email before you get in the site.

Anyway can recommand based on those information?

adultmobile 03-02-2016 02:39 AM

Why don't you simply try a revshare for a while and compare then the $$ total you make.

askjoe 03-02-2016 06:32 AM

Hi

i was reading your previous posts and you are a type of guy hunting for cheap leads with facebook .

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliso (Post 20742836)
To be Honest i am Happy with resulte on PPL Although i have a big Iusse as ONLY 20% who confirm thier email and others not EXMAPLE !!


THIS MONTH ( TOTAL NUMBER OF LEAD 3000LEAD )
ONLY 400LEAD WHO CONFIRMED THIER EMAIL ADDRESS is That Normal ?

Calculator is not your friend?

You mean 13,33% not 20%
3000 are single opts
400 double opts
13,33% double-opt

Looks like they put just a non existant mail and this is the reason they never confirm.
This is all about cheap traffic / fake shit .

You get 12 Dollars for double opts for what ? cams, dating , for a hamburger?


There is a difference between those who shares revenue and those who get paid per action.. Itīs patience.

Those who share revenue wins on longterm .

Share revenue and you will do yourself a favor :2 cents:

Tjeezers 03-02-2016 06:46 AM

Joe is spot on

elliso 03-02-2016 06:47 AM

AdultMobile : I Don t wanna try revshare because if you try it, you must try at least afew months in order to get sales and those sales you will have to wait if they will convert and buy or not ?! that is the reason why

Askjoe : thx for calucation
just wanted to correct You one point, non confirmed leads are leads whom did not entre code to get in website and to be counted as lead but all the traffic are real and converting and the reason i am getting 1/12 ratio on sales

regarding facebook : i found my way to advertise them peacefuly :-)
i am Okay now with fbook, problem sloved.

How is Your experience with revshare on cams ?
have U Had chance to get a highroller customer???

elliso 03-02-2016 06:47 AM

Hey my friend, i msged you on icq but you did not reply :-)
i trust all is good with you

askjoe 03-02-2016 07:05 AM

I will just correct you one point

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliso (Post 20743433)
non confirmed leads are leads whom did not entre code to get in website and to be counted as lead

I fact they are single opts

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliso (Post 20743433)
but all the traffic are real and converting and the reason i am getting 1/12 ratio on sales

I imagine now a guy writing "Sir..please send my money.All leads are legit.Itīs only 30 dollar.Please.I have family and all leads a reaaaal persons sir"


Quote:

Originally Posted by elliso (Post 20743433)
How is Your experience with revshare on cams ?

2:1 (single opt to double opt) 3:1 doube to premium

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliso (Post 20743433)
have U Had chance to get a highroller customer???

Iīm not a customer.I donīt need to pay for sex.


Quote:

Originally Posted by elliso (Post 20743433)
AdultMobile : I Don t wanna try revshare because if you try it, you must try at least afew months in
order to get sales and those sales you will have to wait if they will convert and buy or not ?! that is the reason why

And you open a thread here to answer yourself :-D

I just wrote...The difference is...... :2 cents:

elliso 03-02-2016 07:16 AM

I Don t know get You dude, why are you so rude and so mean?!

zerovic 03-02-2016 07:45 AM

this is usually simple math... why would someone pay you $12 for a single lead? Because they hope for more cash from the same user.. This is the basic of all PPL and PPS programs.. They pay you once and keep the rest of the revenue for themselves..

I was also wondering about this question myself. But look at the numbers... See some chaturbate stats below:

One single campaign got me: 283 free signups, which could make me $283 on their $1 per free signup.. But since now, the total income is $261.81.. Yes, that's less then $283, but these users are mine, and they are paying... It's only a matter of time until it goes above the free signups...

I would suggest to go with revshare... Or do PPL until you make some cash, and invest that in revshare users... simple as that...

hope it helps.

The Porn Nerd 03-02-2016 09:14 AM

Revshare is almost always best unless you have a short-term, need cash NOW business model.

elliso 03-02-2016 09:15 AM

Thank You Very much for your message ZeroVic :-)

Actually i am working on PPL and it make me good cash to be honest, i wouldn t deny that at all. have been working on it since a Year but what i observed that each month i get good ratio of sales and i have no idea over sales if those sales are paying well or not, all my customers are from europe.

i just wonder if i could make more on revshare although i must wait sometime?!
chaturbate i never though of it again as i tested on ppl in 2012 and only made 200usd but i left since i am looking for something which allow me to get at least 3000Usd per month.

i have some cash, how can i invest it in revshare ?
should i buy traffic or what excatly?! Your tips and suggestion are highly appreacited.
if You have Deutsch traffic, i can help U with pleasure

plaster 03-02-2016 09:19 AM

revshare... suggest getting another sponsor that other webmasters have found success and send 50% of traffic to them and compare. Revshare always makes more unless you have a shitty sponsor.

zerovic 03-02-2016 09:57 AM

Contact Clickpapa.com...Awesome ppl with awesome traffic! They will help you with your campaigns, help you decide where to advertise and also help you make as much cash as possible!

#23 03-02-2016 10:02 AM

check out the new crak rev blog about ppl vs rev vs PPS

BoomBoomBenoit 03-02-2016 11:35 AM

Look at it from a risk vs reward perspective of the advertiser (not the affiliate):

Revshare = lower risk, higher reward
PPS = medium risk, medium reward
PPL = higher risk, lower reward

The higher the risk, the less the Advertiser will pay for your traffic. Leads have a higher risk so you'll make less long term.

Of course, this assumes the traffic quality is good. If your traffic quality is bad, you'd probably make more rotating PPL offers and jumping around various networks.

With good quality traffic, revshare will earn you more. Instead of turning all your traffic onto one or the other, why not sample a bit and see how it performs for you over the long term?

Andreweb 03-03-2016 01:14 AM

I always go with revshare , maybe because I only promote cams and at least on cams you'll make more money with revshare than with anything else you can even receive 250$ PPS over all you'll make way more on revshare , just a single member can bring you 250$ each time it buys credits IMHO !

EddyTheDog 03-03-2016 02:37 AM

Try A/B testing it - It will take time because of the way rev share works - Share the results here of course...

Also, if you are doing rev share make sure there is no fine print - It has to be true lifetime %.....

The other factor is your cash flow - Mine is shit ATM - So I am sending to PPL/PPS - I can switch back when things are more settled...

mopek1 03-03-2016 05:05 AM

Which company is paying you $12/lead in cams?

elliso 03-04-2016 05:49 PM

I am making almost 5000Usd per a month on PPL.

I Wonder if i could make more on revshare or would it be just a dream?
i am hesitated ..... i get like 40 sales per a month.
no idea if i get any highroller customer?! might be and might be not but i have been with this program almost over 1 Year.

i have been thinking to switch off revshare but i doubt to make more cash like i am doing currently with ppl

blogspot 03-04-2016 08:17 PM

Revshare

in2cams 03-04-2016 08:27 PM

There is one simple answer to that. Do you believe in the company you promote? Than revshare.

in2cams 03-04-2016 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliso (Post 20747998)
I Wonder if i could make more on revshare or would it be just a dream?

You would probably do at least 15 times as much doing revshare.

Zen- 03-04-2016 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by in2cams (Post 20748259)
You would probably do at least 15 times as much doing revshare.

I agree, well not 15 times more - just more. If you've not had your ass kicked off the network you are obviously sending them good traffic :thumbsup

ErectMedia 03-04-2016 09:21 PM

Cams=Revshare
anything else depends on analyzing probability of rebills based on content, updates etc... as might take lump sum if i feel it's a one fap wonder :2 cents:

in2cams 03-04-2016 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErectMedia (Post 20748325)
Cams=Revshare
anything else depends on analyzing probability of rebills based on content, updates etc... as might take lump sum if i feel it's a one fap wonder :2 cents:

That's your 2 cents. If you believe in the company you're promoting, and have real people on the line, then you go revshare. That's my XXk per month.

ErectMedia 03-04-2016 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by in2cams (Post 20748337)
That's your 2 cents. If you believe in the company you're promoting, and have real people on the line, then you go revshare. That's my XXk per month.

which is exactly what I said, revshare guy since 2003 so xxk per month is chump change to me tough guy. :2 cents:

in2cams 03-04-2016 09:57 PM

I have only done cams for less than a year. So I am happy with my XXk passive income. I hope it will double or triple this year. I also do pron. Mostly shoot amateurs next to the dark net. Doesn't pay that much, but it lets me have fun sex on the first date.

adultmobile 03-05-2016 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliso (Post 20747998)
I am making almost 5000Usd per a month on PPL.

I Wonder if i could make more on revshare or would it be just a dream?
i am hesitated ..... i get like 40 sales per a month.
no idea if i get any highroller customer?! might be and might be not but i have been with this program almost over 1 Year.

i have been thinking to switch off revshare but i doubt to make more cash like i am doing currently with ppl

If the company pays you that much for PPL it means your sales are worth more than that.

elliso 03-06-2016 06:11 PM

AdultMobile please come in icq and let s discuss more in details.
i can send up 200leads per a day only through Social media :-) and of course i get daily sales that is why i am having Special deals with this Company

elliso 03-06-2016 06:15 PM

So if I switch off RevShare? will i make that amounts again?!
i am really lost :-(

I Asked them regarding this subject and they comment :-)
whatever You decided is Good for us as long as You send us good traffic. even thier reply was not clair but i am very much hesitated as i am driving more leads and trying to get over 5000usd a month.

CPA-Rush 03-06-2016 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliso (Post 20747998)
I am making almost 5000Usd per a month on PPL.

yes and sometimes $4000, 3000,2000 or zillion dollars .
the number is undefined :)

j3rkules 03-07-2016 07:21 AM

Test a sponsor for a while and if it rebills well then go with revshare.

elliso 03-07-2016 08:40 AM

If i want to test revshare, i must certainly buy extra traffic so that i am sure there must be some extra sales along with mine but yet haven t yet found any good traffic seller....i believe i can go revshare only once i have enough traffic that will convert into sales mostly and not leads.

trevesty 03-07-2016 08:41 AM

Revshare all day.

elliso 03-16-2017 05:29 AM

i am always with PPL, should i switch off to revshare, i did but result was disaster
with ppl i generate 4 digitals a month, while when i tested revshare i could not even reach 200usd

ANYONE CAN EXPLAIN WHY THIS?
HOW OTHERS ARE MAKING BIG NUMBERS WITH REVSHARE.

THAT IS VERY VERY CONFUSING AND I CAN T UNDERSTAND IT AT ALL

PaperstreetWinston 03-16-2017 08:29 AM

depends on the product although you should try to split test everything

st0ned 03-16-2017 03:02 PM

Revenue share takes time. As others have said PPL gets you the quickest money especially if you are reinvesting the money into media buying or what-not.

Also as others have said you would not be getting paid $12 per lead if the traffic wasn't backing out for them. Likely either your leads are of very high quality and over time are generating much more income for the company, or they are scrubbing whatever % of leads to create a profit for. They obviously are not in the business of losing money so one way or another they are profiting more than they are paying you.

Back when I was heavily invested with my own targeted traffic I chose revenue share always. Of course many companies took my customers overtime but I still made a killing.

Now that we buy the majority of our traffic PPL is the ideal as it gets us a return quicker to reinvest.

:2 cents:

NatalieK 03-16-2017 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20743556)
Revshare is almost always best unless you have a short-term, need cash NOW business model.

I feel revshare for memberships & ppl on cams, yes from a models pov, the member comes back but many sign up and just check in only occasionally on cams, some just for a moment here and there or donīt spend, just sign up :2 cents:

dillfly2000 03-16-2017 03:41 PM

As stated, Revshare is a waiting game but it definitely pays off in the long run. Leads are nice for quick $'s, but the disadvantage of leads would be if something changes and your site loses traffic, leads might drop, where if that happens rev share is still paying even if your site vanishes from the interwebs.

elliso 03-17-2017 07:05 AM

Well dudes here is the disaster :-)
by mistake manager send a report to me and this report show HIGH Rolling customer that are paying over 600euro and others 350euro / 150euro within last month.

i am in total shock

DDUK 03-17-2017 01:02 PM

Whats the sponsor?

Cyber Fucker 03-17-2017 01:14 PM

RevShare, always. :)

elliso 03-17-2017 09:22 PM

that means i am being fucked 3 years on PPL and i just wake up this weekend :-)

Look Chang 03-17-2017 11:41 PM

I always chose RevShare and it's the most profitable.

elliso 03-20-2017 09:46 AM

Revshare require HIgh QUALITY Traffic and Alot of targeted traffic

ironwebmaster 03-20-2017 01:02 PM

Curious who you promote

elliso 03-20-2017 02:07 PM

It's a German network with highest payout rate on net :-) expect I did promoted them over 3 years on ppl and discovered late that my leads are spending 3digits amounts ... which is unpleasant surprise

CrazyMartin 03-20-2017 02:40 PM

share with us, you have nothing to lose

elliso 03-21-2017 06:14 AM

pm and i ll share with pleasure

MadMario 03-21-2017 10:44 AM

With FPC traffic on cam site i have good revshare income.
With own traffic from blog i only have good income on PPL.
So it depends ... You should run for a while Revshare and than compare it t o PPL.
Noone can tell you what to do , test test test test :)


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