Measles outbreak across America
 

Not good.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...es-in-nyc.html

Yes, vaccine immunity doesn't last forever, that's what we're seeing. If you do get Measles keep on top of your Vitamin A :2 cents:

no, it's because psychotics like yourself spread unconfirmed horse shit about vaccines and people too dumb to know better listen and get infected, then their children get infected.

people die because of what you spread. How does that make you feel? Do you have a smug response? A snappy come back? Some witty returns? Does it make you happy?

That's what I was going to say - We had one here as well - 100% proven that people died because of that BS...

The guy died of Asthma, Asthma comes from the DPT vaccine so hence it was vaccines that killed him :2 cents:

Do the world a favor and stop believing every nutcase on YT - I think you know my background on this particular subject - What you are spouting is dangerous and you should stay away from it...

You have an opinion, that's fine, but it's a complex topic which requires much time and thought :2 cents:

Delay in diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus vaccination is associated with a reduced risk of childhood asthma.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18207561

"CONCLUSION:

We found a negative association between delay in administration of the first dose of whole-cell DPT immunization in childhood and the development of asthma; the association was greater with delays in all of the first 3 doses. The mechanism for this phenomenon requires further research"

I can find a paper that 'proves' pretty much any theory some psychotic in a white coat conjured up - It doesnt mean its true...

The pro-vaccine ones are generally funded by Big Pharma :2 cents:

Salzburger Study

Results:

of 1004 unvaccinated children, had

Asthma, 0% (8-12% in the normal population)

A-topic dermatitis 1.2% (10-20% in the normal population)

Allergies 3% (25% in the normal population)

ADHD 0.79% (5-10%) in children

As you know Microbiology is a subject I have thought about a lot - If you have forgotten then look back on GFY history...

What 'time and thought' have you put into this 'complex topic' - YT does not count.....

Cherry picked...

Your anti vaccine BS is dangerous - It kills - Simple as that...

I've been spending my spare time on it for over a decade after my sister was killed by a vaccine (Tetanus) :2 cents:

I used to believe that it was a one-off, however my findings are rather different, it's hard to find any vaccine which is worth the risk in the First World, however in the Third World Measles jabs are worthwhile. :2 cents:

Another

Longterm Study in Guinea-Bissau (1 Kristensen I, Aaby P, Jensen H.:“Routine vaccinations and child survival: follow up study in Guinea-Bissau, West Africa”, BMJ 2000; 321: 1435–41


The children of 15,000 mothers were observed from 1990 to 1996 for 5 years.


Result: the death rate in vaccinated children against diphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough is twice as high as the unvaccinated children (10.5% versus 4.7%).

British Cohort Study

(McKeever et al.: Vaccination and Allergic Disease: A Birth Cohort Study“, June 2004, Vol 94, No. 6, American Journal of Public Health)

There were a total of over 30,000 children with DPPT (diphtheria, polio, pertussis whom were vaccinated against whooping cough, tetanus), compared with non-vaccinated children, the MMR (measles, mumps, rubella were vaccinated), which were non-vaccinated. Results: Increased risk of allergy towards vaccination A child which has been vaccinated against DPPT averages per life year, a risk of 5.04% of allergic asthma. In contrast to a child which has not been vaccinated against DPPT only has a 0.36% risk of asthma.

exactly.

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%...l.pone.0008382

"Self-Organized Criticality Theory of Autoimmunity"

"Systemic autoimmunity appears to be the inevitable consequence of over-stimulating the host's immune ‘system’ by repeated immunization with antigen, to the levels that surpass system's self-organized criticality."

warning, are these populations similar ?
If they live in a different environment, the environnement could be the real causation.

If she was killed by a Tetanus vaccine that's horrible and unfortunate - Many others have been saved by it as well - Including in the first world - Many more will be saved because we have eradicated Small Pox - Polio is on its way out as well - Thank god...

Millions of people are alive because of vaccines - I can only believe that is a good thing.....

Had it as a kid. Sucks, but no big deal.

All from the same population, many of the families in the study included both vaccinated and unvaccinated children. :2 cents:

Small Pox was eradicated by quarantine, the vaccines weren't working and were incredibly dangerous. Polio has been renamed so as it doesn't show up in statistics, but the vaccine actually spreads it (under another name).

Indian J Med Ethics. 2012 Apr-Jun;9(2):114-7.

"?while India has been polio-free for a year, there has been a huge increase in non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP). In 2011, there were an extra 47,500 new cases of NPAFP. Clinically indistinguishable from polio paralysis but twice as deadly, the incidence of NPAFP was directly proportional to doses of oral polio received. Though this data was collected within the polio surveillance system, it was not investigated. The principle of primum-non-nocere [First, do no harm] was violated."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22591873

My whole family had it, it was standard in those days :2 cents:

I can post a million or more (literally) articles showing that vaccines work - I know they work because of what I don't see...

That's just assumption though, there is no study to prove that

OK - Wasting my time - Moving on...

Studies funded by Big Pharma, that is marketing not real science :2 cents:

Look into their safety studies, they only follow the recipient for a few days, so if they come down with Diabetes Type 1 or another autoimmune disease a couple of months later we don't ever find out. Why are they not using real controls in their safety studies? Instead they use another vaccine with the same metals and chemicals in, that is not science, we either need a saline solution or an unvaccinated individual as a control. Until they can use serious science and have an independent testing body I wouldn't touch them, especially when they come from an industry who profit directly from the lifelong complications which vaccines are known to cause. :2 cents:

I know it's hard to open your mind to this, I'm posting scientific studies which your mind wants to reject.

Anyway if you're interested in the science side and want real experts to explain the potential dangers (they're not anti-vaccine, they are pro vaccine-safety), these videos are a superb resource :2 cents: :thumbsup

http://www.vaccinesafetyconference.com/videos.html

This is just completely incorrect. "By quarantine"??? I think you have no idea the historical context and scope of smallpox.

Measles, rubella, scarlet fever, roseola, mumps, chickenpox, erythema, coxsackievirus ... had it all, and still alive. Vaccine is for pussies, but I don't fuck with stuff like tetanus or polio :drinkup

Why the fuck are you wasting energy conversing with that nutcase? I thought you had a dog; I am sure it is far more intelligent than WHP.

there have been a few cases of kids getting here too. there will be more and more as the anti vaccine camp grows.

Its that masochistic streak in me - I can't shake it...

That came direct from one of the chaps involved with the eradication :2 cents:

:1orglaugh me too, it was only when Big Pharma had a way of profiting that they wanted to fear-monger us :thumbsup

As for Tetanus it's a disease of poor wound hygiene, clean your wounds and you'll be fine. If someone does go down Tetanus we have antibiotics for that. Polio is from poor sanitation, but if you have tonsils you are immune to it already.

you'll believe anything as long as it goes against the status quo..you rebel!

He was brave, credit where it's due, I admire him for engaging me on the topic :)

The CDC recommends Tylenol (Paracetamol) for after vaccination, despite studies showing that it stops the vaccines from working. :upsidedow

I just go with the facts and science :2 cents:

I can see it now - some guy says "quarantine was an essential tool in eradicating smallpox" (like it is any highly contagious disease) and you just run with that into your own dim-bulb headspace.

You mean Youtube?

US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11869601

and then there's
http://media.spundge.com.s3.amazonaw...313b025831.png

Total utter bullshit.

Ring vaccination: In 1967, a different plan was used. It involved finding people who were exposed to an infected person. The exposed person and those people he or she had been in contact with were then given the vaccine. That is, the smallpox vaccine was given to those people who had been, or could have been, exposed to an infected person. This approach created a "ring" of vaccinated people around the people who were infected with smallpox and stopped the spread of the disease. In the end, it was this strategy of "ring vaccination" that completely got rid of the disease.

http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/smallpox/prep/cdc-prep.asp

I'm not joining in the argument but i have a question. My guess at the answer maybe completely wrong but I'm genuinely interested due to your stance on this subject. wehateporn - how old are you?

Vaccine-deniers are responsible to the resurgence of once-eliminated illnesses. Their movement is responsible for sickening people. They are to blame for the word “outbreak” appearing in headlines from coast to coast.

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