It's harder to shoot porn today than it was back in the old days.
 

For many reasons.

First has to be budget. You simply can't make a silk purse with a sows ear budget. No matter how good a shooter is, if he's working on a shoe string. He's not got a lot of time, money or incentive to produce great porn.

Second has to be models. For a number of reasons. They have seen porn on the Internet and think what they saw is what is right. Often it's not. It's faked badly and shot on a shoestring.

Also their attitude. Todays models are far harder to work with. Prior to the Internet and the deluge of porn production if a model fucked up or failed to deliver the goods, she was soon out of work. Unless very very beautiful. Today there are too many places she can work badly and not have it effect her career.

And many have picked up bad habits from shooters who don't know better or accept them.

If the model wasn't doing it right, there was no, "Shooting something so the day isn't a complete loss." It was "Go home.". Because paying her/him and the film wasn't worth it. Best to lose the M/U fee, Boys/girls fee and other costs than add to the disaster throwing more money after lost money.

Even with digital we would just give up and call it a day. Assuming we couldn't turn a couple shoot into a solo shoot.

The ease of selling. This has a lot to do with it. When selling a set to an editor he had 8 slots to fill and often 50+ sets to choose from. If your work wasn't good, not good enough, it didn't get accepted and even then it might not get used. We were paid on publication. What is accepted today would never get accepted by an editor.

Similar goes for the good video markets. They had more than enough work submitted to them. So if it wasn't good it wasn't accepted.

It's easier to sell today and harder to produce good work.

Never skip a day without taking your medication.

I don't still on some pills and suspect I always will be. Helicid is the main one, the others are vitamin pills. Everyone should take them once they reach 40. :thumbsup

always fucking complaining about something...

arent you like 80 years old?

enjoy your retirement and puzzle building for fucks sake before you keel over in despair...






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I stopped reading as soon as I saw this.

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I wasn't around in the glory days and I have no problem findind talent that is willing to work, knows how to pose and doesn't expect to make thousands per shoot.

I'm suprised how much many of the girls i find know aswell. Even the amateurs with no experience.

It depends who is doing the shooting. If it's an employee, you must pay them well like all employees you expect good work from. If it's an owner(S) in the porn/shooting the porn, which MANY porn companies today are, then we ALL work with no money until the money starts coming in. I don't consider them on a shoestring budget, but rather another business man, doing business.

It's easier to get models today, shit tons of them, endless supply, you can be picky, greedy, the supply is endless.

Compared to just 15 years ago, it's easier to get models today too. Shit tons of them, places to advertise, people that apply.. Depending on your location, you can be extremely picky with a never ending supply of girls.

It's cheaper today, instead of overpaying to put up with the same stupidity, today you pay accordingly and still put up with the stupidity.

Like all business, things change. It's easier to sell today, because the market is bigger. It's cheaper to produce today, because the market is bigger. I'm not sure how it's harder, when technology has made it extremely easier, it's cheaper, it's bigger, ect.

Its a lot easier to shoot porn these days.

buy camera, pay model, shoot video, edit and upload or sell.

Whats the going rate to make a premium video these days? Something for DVD release, 6 scenes, some kind of story line.

I'm not reading that ...

Loss of eye sight, Loss of hearing, Loss of mind. . .

Paul, time has really passed you by. Almost everything you say about the current market for adult content is incorrect, Matter of fact, in many cases the exact opposite is true. I was around in the trenches shooting storyline feature porn movies, pro-am and so-called gonzo porn for VHS, DVD and broadcast tv distribution since the early 1990s & 2000s so I know the way it was back then and how it is now in 2011 when I have never been busier shooting high resolution photo content and high definition video content for companies all over the world. I know pretty much everything about the history of the offline wholesale and retail distribution end of the adult business as well since I worked in the office of the biggest U.S. distributor of adult movies and novelties and took note of everything that went on.

Budgets: Of course it depends on what type of shoots you are doing and how you are selling them, but I work with fairly reasonable budgets and even when I don't I routinely make silk purses out of sow's ears to use your analogy. Maybe no one wants to give you a large budget to shoot quality porn anymore because of your dated style, negative attitude and other factors and therefore forced you into retirement. But using my sharpened skills and modern technology, I am able to shoot more and far better content in one month now than I used to do in a year back in the day.

Models: There are more beautiful models now than ever before. At least there is for me because I put my time in and developed so many relationships with agents & unaffiliated recruiters that it is way easier to cast the new models for me. Back in the 90's I had to travel all around North America to recruit girls in person in strip clubs or have them Fedex me Polaroid pictures if they answered one of my ads in their local paper. Now with email, cheap telephone plans and social networking I don't have to leave the house to do most of my casting. The models are also easier too, at least the American girls. It may be harder dealing with the Eueo-whores, but the girls I shoot have grown up with the ubiquity of porn in the last twenty years or so and are often excited to be working for me. I am also able to get them to do more and/or better content in a day than I ever was able or willing to do years ago.

Ease of Selling: Contrary to what you say it is harder to sell than ever before, especially for people like yourself who didn't continue to grow, learn and adapt. Clients are super picky and unlike say even a few years ago when every half-assed male talent and wannabe could become a director and producer selling content to one of the many affiliate programs during the internet boom times, no one is going to hire any shooters nowadays who don't deliver creative, well-shot content with hot models in a timely manner.

I have a lot of experience shooting adult feature movies with hard & soft versions for DVD & broadcast tv. I would charge something like $15k for a six scene movie with a storyline, more or less depending on the star power if any in the cast, the specifics of the plot and the expectations of the client. These things can very wildly- for example, if I were to rent a 90-foot yacht to shoot the movie on like I have done in the past or hire a popular porn star like my friend Gina Lynn to star in the movie those things have to be taken into consideration too.

I figure Paul, it was harder when you started. Those gun powder flashes must of made a mess of hotel rooms. :winkwink:

I believe Paul started before that even. He had stone tablets and a chisel. Must have been a bitch doing hardcore scenes.

lmao!!!
oh my days, paul marksham age jokes NEVER get old! unlike the man himself

This would be using my partner, Briana Banks. I'm writing down the script now, need a house for a day, got a buddy in LA that can help with that. I need to build a set and that can be used for two different scenes and some props. Just need to get up the money at this point. Got a big promotion coming up on her site, so we'll see.
Didn't think about the soft version, lots of money in that I'm sure.

You got that right. The quality of some of the girls in the biz these days is simply amazing.

Do you keep up with the porn models in Japan? Holy Jesus. I'm embarrassed to admit I can watch mosaic Japanese porn simply because the girls are so hot.

Generally correct. So what to do?
Here's an idea: STOP SHOOTING NEW PORN COMPLETELY.

Let the surfers see shit from 2002 for awhile, over and over and over again, then when he thinks he can get that "same old shit" for free, wow him with something NEW. Then he would buy again. Of course, this would never happen.

Hey Paul - if I come to the Czech Republic this summer will you show me where to find "amateur" Czech models to shoot with that won't cost me $800 a day? LOL Now there's some info I could use, brother.

You got that right. Today's D-list girls could make yesterday's A list easily.

Neither do I...

hahahahha

Not sure about today. Back in the 90s and early 2000s it was from $200,000 to as low as $40,000.

Private paid about $40,000 per scene for a set and video. They spent far more on some of their own productions.

I would say a few outspend the Internet by a long way. But I heard of a shooter in Prague who shoots HC for 800 Euros a scene.

In those days it was very tough to sell solo girl or even lesbian. The market really was very much hardcore.

In which century did you acquire this saying? :1orglaugh

I've been trying to tell people that for years.

:D

Here's a much better route.

SHOOT PORN THAT EVERY OTHER FUCKER POINTING A CAMERA CAN'T. But still good porn.

You're dead right about the same old shit. One of the problems today is protecting your work is more or less pointless. Because your work is shot by 100 other people and not all of them will protect their work. Which is why few bother.

The problem with "Wow him with something new" is. It needs a better budget, shooter, ideas and model. The first 3 will cost money. Money that isn't and never has been spent since Bangbus.

Yes if you come to Czech I can give you some pointers on where to get models. Truth is there are very few new and amateur coming forward. They don't want to be seen naked or having sex on the Internet.

Lastly to those side tracking my point on models. I never said anything about their looks or numbers. It was about their attitude and performance. Too many fake it very badly. Too many think that's the right way to do it. Tripping out the same old phrases over and over again and moaning in a real bad way and at the wrong time is bad.

Todays shooters have to suck it up because there is nowhere else to sell their wares. I don't have to and never did. So I don't always so what most want to hear.

Damn :1orglaugh. I'm surprised none has come up with a Paul Markham Jokes site yet :)

Paul, you don't say anything anyone wants to hear. Everyone just laughs at how horribly pointless and completely wrong you are. About everything.

HTH.

Your pal

Damian

Being wrong then has made me a lot of money. More should be wrong then.

Being right hasn't made you much. As for marketing, you're so good at it you post videos of your rented hovel and now too embarrassed, after I pointed it to you, to shoot there. Great self marketing, show people how little you make. :1orglaugh

What will your next job be?

It's not harder, it's just different.

Digital cameras make the feedback loop fast and reliable. Take a pic, see it on screen seconds later if you want. Tweak. I know GOOD shooters got film right every time, but how did they get to that point? Expensive, slow trial and error. That's how.

Photoshop, oh how I love thee. Was anyone buying sets of girls with C scars? Oh yes, that's right, we'll use Suspender Belt 1.0 instead. The stuff we do with PS grows daily and gives us choices.

As for models, it's never been easier to find them. Girls now get to look at a lot more porn than ever before, and thanks to the internet we are able to advertise directly or easily connect with an agency 7 time zones away.

Girls have always faked - and faked badly - it's just that when we were young and testosterone fuelled, we fell for it more easily! The older I get the more annoying I find the girls but I'm happy to accept its me that's changing, not them. Yes, they can be lazy and - oh my god - not committed to creating great porn, but that could be because of the party they were at all night. These days the only allnighters I pull are completing tax returns.

Shooting video is now as cheap and easy as you want it to be. Comparing the cost of production now to then is simply impossible - an edit suit could cost the price of a house to buy, now it can be done on a lappy.

And just for one second take off the rose tinted specs and go look at some old content. I for one don't look back at those corner room studio setups and wish I'd shot them. Porn today is better than ever. The rude stuff is ruder, the arty stuff better shot with more variety and high production stuff more perfect than ever. And now there's lots of it.

The only problem with now, is how high the entry standard now is.

Paul - I think you do yourself a disservice with these posts because you don't actually get what made you exceptional. To non brits it's really hard to understand how hard it is to do business here and how anti-porn - and more critical to Paul - anti-video the time was. Videos couldn't be sold with out certification, porn had no chance of being certified in a country where even mags didn't show insertions till a few years ago. And then moving to Czech very shortly after communism ended. No Easyjet and I bet far fewer people speaking english. Dunno what you did right, but you survived and who else from that time is still around? Don't see Jack Harrison or Joanie Allum posting so much.

Paul, love, I was talking about your posts on the boards, not your clearly amazing pictures of bored/scared teens with bone dry cunts.

Bless you.

Life can get confusing at your age, can't it?

But all of this is moot anyway. Paul doesn't *really* think it's harder now.

He is trolling.

Again.

God I'm glad I don't have to post obvious trolling lies to sell 60 bucks bluescreen pics whilst I pretend to be retired.

Carry on.

Jack Harrison, to my knowledge, works for Private. I heard that from Bill Wright. Joanie retired before I came here, she had made enough and just stopped. A few others are around but most got out to better paying photographers jobs or better paying jobs or retired. I expect the remaining few will retire soon. If Deni, Viv, Colby and a few others haven't kept some of the money they made they will be sorry.

I know all about certification and Astral Blue was closed down because of non certification. I also know about the atmosphere back then.

What I did right was raised my game shooting and moved to a country where I could raise my production level. And didn't sell what I produced outright for small money. Right up to 2008. :thumbsup

The thread was maybe badly written or badly perceived. It's far easier to point a camera at a girl and shout action. To get it right and good isn't so easy for the reason I stated.

This part of the porn industry has never valued the product very highly. It made loads of useless excuses why. The truth is most in the beginning couldn't afford to and as the industry became easier, instead of raising the bar and setting higher standards, to keep out every Ma and Pa operation, they chose to do nothing.

Now it's suffering. Too many programs chasing sales with the same low level content.

Magazines didn't buy pictures with girls with dripping pussies. A little shine on them was all that was needed.

They were always getting wet and we had to wipe them dry.

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You're right they do look scared. :1orglaugh

This thread is funny :1orglaugh

You only need to know one thing when shooting porn. DO NOT film the guys face when he cums, in fact dont film it at all!

Possibly, but you know it's 2011 now. Things have changed.

I'm sure you can find a couple of pics where they don't look scared. After all, you were paying them money to pretend not to be scared.

However, on your tour you have:

http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/tour...irls/grace.jpg

Uncomfortable

http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/tour...rls/lola_l.jpg

scared

http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/tour...ls/kathy_g.jpg

Dead behind the eyes

http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/tour...essa_bliss.jpg

Clearly worried

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Startled and confused

Still, it depends what market you are selling to. I bet there is a subsection of society that gets aroused by looking at images of scared teenagers.

Paul, I would think, for you, the hardest thing about shooting Porn now/then would be the adjustment from Black and White to Color.

Your jokes/bit and Paul's content have a lot in common.

However me and Damian have little in common.

He knows nothing about how to sell content for the most money. Nothing about marketing, or he wouldn't of been stupid enough to post his rented hovel that looks like it's full of 2nd hand furniture. He's broke and clearly has to be worried about his future employment. He lives in a country where the cost of living is high. He's alone.

I know tons about what the best paying markets want, Enough about marketing to work in that market and this. I have enough to live out my life and no worries about ever having to find a job. I live in a house fully paid for. I live in a country where the cost of living is far lower. I am surrounded by my immediate family.

More scared girls.

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I know how to shoot content that sells. He knows how to shoot content that makes him look like an idiot without a pot to piss in.

Thank fuck for that.

I have a beautiful girlfriend that I didn't have to pay money to an agency to get.
You have a woman that looks like a man that you had to pay for.

I live in a beautiful part of West Sussex with views over fields one side, and a river the other.
You had to flee the UK for [REDACTED]

I am asked to post here in the Education Series because of my knowledge.
You rant like a dribbling lunatic, repeating the same old thing ALL DAY that no one agrees with.

I am fit and well.
You post here pretending to have a variety of problems in order to get money from people.

You pretend to have retired, but troll here to sell your pics for 60 bucks.
I work hard for A list clients like Playboy, EasyDate, VideoSecrets etc.

You have ex-employees saying some very very very bad things about you (stuff most people in the industry have sussed already).

You post screen shots and blank out a puppy shop from your toolbar.

You actually said that you find 15 year old children sexually attractive.

/me shakes his head

You are a laughing stock.

Yes, I am awfully glad I am nothing like you.

PS Damian and I, not me and Damian

PPS Also, you are really easy to troll. I predict you will bring up 1) The fact you think I live in a rented flat 2) The fact I get paid money for doing magic

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what i was thinking before i even opened the thread..

Damian, I think you are a very bad person for thinking Czech is in any way inferior to Surrey. You've got more chance of buying a bride in the UK than you have in CZ by a million miles. If you'd ever been you'd realise the place has gone from communism to virtually fucking Switzerland in 20 years. If only the same could be said of Hull.

As for Surrey being the be all and end all of views, you have to be fucking joking.

Google image search for "czech countryside" or "Olomouc" (a small town miles from anywhere, but one I happen to have visited) The place is fucking lovely.

Paul's point, which you constantly choose to miss about the 15 years is that you simply won't realise they are 15. Czechs are tall and skinny and very, very pretty. Any supermodel who's name ends ...ova is probably a czech. I've seen a field of fruit pickers in CZ that looked like a video shoot - 30 pickers, all girls, all in jeans and bikini tops, all hot. Seriously nearly crashed the car. Shooting in CZ, we shoot only agency girls, but judging by what you see on the streets you better check that ID carefully, cause you could be caught out easily.

And Paul is right, gloopy or gaping pussy shots were a total nogo for years.

And as for marrying models. Its one of the perks of the job, lots of photographers do it. Lets start a list.

Petter:Luba

man you should have shot that scene lol.

ya czech girls were nice before the got pro. i was with Hegre, as u know, in the early days and those Russian/East Euro girls were untouched and didn't know anything about the industry. now they are all pros and know exactly what to charge, what is on the model release, and are bitchy just like LA pornstars.

i think the whole point of Paul's threads are always about how the good old days were so much better. for us non-retirees, who still work hard and make a living in this business, its annoying to hear. just because he can no longer make a living in porn doesn't mean the rest of us aren't doing it.

oh and fyi your new tour took me 70 seconds to load. i loaded another site i know afterwards in seconds to make sure it wasn't me. u should have bought PornCMS :P

I don't, nor have I claimed that. I do think that a small village outside Brno is inferior to West Sussex. But we all know the real reason he is over there. And it's got nothing to do with models. He's retired, remember.

Oh he realises. He also said that school teachers must have an "iron will" not to succumb to children he teaches. There's no ambiguity there. No uncertainty about their ages. This is stuff he actually posted, not me playing hard and loose with the quotes.

Who denies this? Time moves on, however, and this isn't the 80s. Who the hell wants to see a scared teenager being forced to shove a toy up her bone dry cunt? It's nasty.

Great strawman post though Simon. Good work.

PS Thanks for the cover image, the mag looks stunning, I'll send it over.

Take no notice of him. Few do and it's obvious he's completely lost it.

He's now down to insulting family members.

4.

Do not post people's personal information, or attack peoples personal lives or families, stick to the issues and the bullshit. ANY WHOIS information is considered public information, it is not considered personal information. So don't bitch at us if you put your home address as your personal info on WHOIS.

And come as close as breaking this one as it's possible.

"You have ex-employees saying some very very very bad things about you (stuff most people in the industry have sussed already)."

9.

False accusations against a person or company. We all want to know what companies and individuals have done you wrong. Just make sure you back any claims you make up with solid proof. If you plan on calling someone a scammer, liar, cheat, or anything else, have your proof in order and post it with your claim. False accusations will be grounds for immediate banning.

Do I care, no I sit here in a beautiful village over looking a river at the front and a farm at the back. He's kept awake at nights by the trains going past his bedroom.

Also Damian has zero idea of what magazines required.

He works hard for those "top" guys. I didn't work hard to make more money out of guys much bigger. :1orglaugh :thumbsup