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BRISK 03-24-2005 03:23 AM

This online business idea made me say "Wow"
 
Zopa.com is a UK company that has created an eBay style loan exchange.

Zopa is a place where creditworthy consumers who'd like to borrow money can get together with other consumers who are happy to lend it to them. Cutting out the middleman, lenders set their own rate of return and choose which borrowers they want to lend to.

www.zopa.com


What do you think?

DutchTeenCash 03-24-2005 03:24 AM

nice, just hope its legally ok, so can someone from say Holland borrow money from someone in Australia ?

Steen2 03-24-2005 03:24 AM

Before looking at the site, I'm confused.

BRISK 03-24-2005 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Steen2
Before looking at the site, I'm confused.

Simple concept really

People want to borrow money

People want to lend money

Zopa brings them together, no more going to banks for loans

DutchTeenCash 03-24-2005 03:26 AM

ok answered

To be able to join Zopa you must:

1. be over 18
2. have a UK current account
3. be a UK resident
4. not be lending in the course of a business

Steen2 03-24-2005 03:26 AM

Hmm,m creating a middle man by eliminating the middle man!

This is a very good idea.

How it's carried out and legal aside, that is.
I wonder if there will be legal issues to come?

RedShoe 03-24-2005 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRISK
Simple concept really

People want to borrow money

People want to lend money

Zopa brings them together, no more going to banks for loans

you left out,

People like to borrow and not pay back.

BRISK 03-24-2005 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedShoe
you left out,

People like to borrow and not pay back.

Zopa handles that for the lenders

BRISK 03-24-2005 03:29 AM

All lenders and borrowers enter into a legally binding contract with their respective borrowers and lenders. Zopa manages the collection of monthly repayments and if any of that money is not paid on time, uses exactly the same recovery processes that the high street banks use.

Iron Mike 03-24-2005 03:35 AM

It's a bit like a Mafia, isn't it....

RedShoe 03-24-2005 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iron Mike
It's a bit like a Mafia, isn't it....


If by 'a bit' you mean 'exactly' then, yes.

BRISK 03-24-2005 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iron Mike
It's a bit like a Mafia, isn't it....

uhhh.....no :ugone2far

grumpy 03-24-2005 04:09 AM

thats asking for a scam.

Furious_Female 03-24-2005 04:24 AM

Peer 2 peer loan sharking? lol

ssp 03-24-2005 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRISK
All lenders and borrowers enter into a legally binding contract with their respective borrowers and lenders. Zopa manages the collection of monthly repayments and if any of that money is not paid on time, uses exactly the same recovery processes that the high street banks use.

So what's their gain?

Stacey_JoinRightNow 03-24-2005 04:35 AM

lending is really a GREAT-risk kind of biz

Fake Nick 03-24-2005 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssp
So what's their gain?


the joy of providing a quality service :1orglaugh

Shoehorn! 03-24-2005 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedShoe
If by 'a bit' you mean 'exactly' then, yes.

:1orglaugh

x86brandon 03-24-2005 04:44 AM

Kind of a neat idea. I think there would be some rather huge issues with it though.

ssp 03-24-2005 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fake Nick
the joy of providing a quality service :1orglaugh

Ah the joy of going out every morning with their baseball bats, to kindly ask people to return their loan! Especially in a country like the UK, where everybody is in debt. Seems like a business idea that will last forever. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

BRISK 03-24-2005 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssp
Ah the joy of going out every morning with their baseball bats, to kindly ask people to return their loan! Especially in a country like the UK, where everybody is in debt. Seems like a business idea that will last forever. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

They don't go "out every morning with their baseball bats"

They do exactly what normal banks would do with borrowers who aren't paying. They send the account to a collection agency.

Drake 03-24-2005 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy
thats asking for a scam.

Yeah I'd be weary about lending money

BRISK 03-24-2005 05:00 AM

You're not just lending to random people.

You can choose to lend money to people who have an excellent credit rating.

I'm sure they'll also introduce a feedback system like eBay where people can leave feedback about previous borrowers. Were they good? Bad? Did they pay on time, etc...

Drake 03-24-2005 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRISK
You're not just lending to random people.

You can choose to lend money to people who have an excellent credit rating.

I'm sure they'll also introduce a feedback system like eBay where people can leave feedback about previous borrowers. Were they good? Bad? Did they pay on time, etc...

It's definitely an interesting idea and may work. There will be some problems just as their is on Ebay but it could very well work if it's run properly.

BRISK 03-24-2005 05:03 AM

They do an Equifax credit rating on everyone who joins

BRISK 03-24-2005 05:05 AM

Another bonus for lenders is that you don't get charged anything. Borrowers have to pay the Zopa 1% fee.

IceMaster 03-24-2005 05:05 AM

Dangerous system i guess.

slapass 03-24-2005 07:26 AM

I do this once in awhile with people I know and it would be cool to have a more formal deal and more deals.

Basic_man 03-24-2005 09:01 AM

It can be a nice idea, but alot of trouble !

BRISK 03-24-2005 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Basic_man
It can be a nice idea, but alot of trouble !

Last time I checked, all investments have the ability to be a lot of trouble.

Cains 03-24-2005 09:04 AM

It begs the question, why?

If someone is asking for a loan through that site, my brain is telling me it's because a bank won't give it to them.

How open is this to scamming? the possibilities seem endless

How are you going to get your money back if they don't pay? how do you even know the person you've lent to is who they say they are?

Barefootsies 03-24-2005 09:09 AM

Where's sharky?

Maybe Joe Pesci needs a job.

:pimp

BRISK 03-24-2005 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Man
It begs the question, why?

If someone is asking for a loan through that site, my brain is telling me it's because a bank won't give it to them.

How open is this to scamming? the possibilities seem endless

How are you going to get your money back if they don't pay? how do you even know the person you've lent to is who they say they are?

Maybe they will get a better interest rate through this site than they can get from a bank?

How do banks get their money back when people don't pay?

Pleasurepays 03-24-2005 09:19 AM

i think this all flys in the face of logic. if you have great credit - the bank will suck your cock if it means you will take their money. conversely, a person who is lending money should know the value of the cash, the risks etc and would not be lending money at rates lower than a bank unless he is very irresponsible. a bunch of people getting together and saying "we can do it better than Wells Fargo" is a little insane, idealistic and short sighted in my opinon.
:2 cents: :2 cents:


what i am saying is ... how is it logical that a group of people can get together and think they can loan money cheaper or better than Fanny Mae who has around $100,000,000,000.00 in loans out.

BRISK 03-24-2005 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
i think this all flys in the face of logic. if you have great credit - the bank will suck your cock if it means you will take their money. conversely, a person who is lending money should know the value of the cash, the risks etc and would not be lending money at rates lower than a bank unless he is very irresponsible. a bunch of people getting together and saying "we can do it better than Wells Fargo" is a little insane, idealistic and short sighted in my opinon.
:2 cents: :2 cents:


what i am saying is ... how is it logical that a group of people can get together and think they can loan money cheaper or better than Fanny Mae who has around $100,000,000,000.00 in loans out.

I know of business forums that are full of people that say they've been rejected by banks even though they have great credit.

Cains 03-24-2005 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRISK
Maybe they will get a better interest rate through this site than they can get from a bank?

How do banks get their money back when people don't pay?

But who would risk their own money lending to people they don't know for a lower interest rate than banks charge? It would be a risky and poor investment

Banks have debt collectors who charge extortionate fees (ontop of the bank's fees), they either do this inhouse or outsource it to a hired debt collection agency (I figure these are the people turned down as child supprot payment collectors).

True, you'd have legal options but it seems way too risky

BRISK 03-24-2005 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Man
Banks have debt collectors who charge extortionate fees (ontop of the bank's fees), they either do this inhouse or outsource it to a hired debt collection agency (I figure these are the people turned down as child supprot payment collectors).

What do you think Zopa has?

BRISK 03-24-2005 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Man
But who would risk their own money lending to people they don't know for a lower interest rate than banks charge? It would be a risky and poor investment

Maybe it will be a higher interest rate?

Maybe people rejected by banks will flock to a site like that? Maybe they will get approved for a loan, but the interest rate will be 15% whereas a person with good credit could get the same loan from a bank at 8%?

Where there is risk, there is reward.

Cains 03-24-2005 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRISK
Maybe it will be a higher interest rate?

Maybe people rejected by banks will flock to a site like that? Maybe they will get approved for a loan, but the interest rate will be 15% whereas a person with good credit could get the same loan from a bank at 8%?

Where there is risk, there is reward.

OK, I understand what you're saying but...

There are hundreds of agencies that advertise to people who have low or poor credit rating and can't get a bank loan. If the people wanting to borrow from this website can't get one from them, do you really want to lend your money to them?

I know i'm being a bit pedantic but i'm financially anal. Everyone I hear with a bad credit rating always has some kind of story about how's it's not their fault or something happened. I'm sceptical of the kind of people who want loans but can't get them through traditional means.

Manowar 03-24-2005 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steen2
Hmm,m creating a middle man by eliminating the middle man!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh so true.


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