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Socks 11-01-2008 05:48 PM

12 y/o Goes Trick or Treating, Knocks, Gets a FULL CLIP from an AK47 instead, Dies.
 
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/01/....ap/index.html

Hooray for guns! USA. USA. USA. USA.

SUMTER, South Carolina (AP) -- An ex-convict who said he thought he was being robbed gunned down a 12-year-old trick-or-treater, spraying nearly 30 rounds with an assault rifle from inside his home after hearing a knock on the door, police said Saturday.

Spunky 11-01-2008 05:49 PM

Jesus,poor kid

marketsmart 11-01-2008 05:51 PM

if that doesnt get the dealth penalty...

and socks, a convicted felon is not allowed to own a gun in the US...

421Fill 11-01-2008 05:54 PM

poor kid. his family must be devastated

crockett 11-01-2008 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14989609)
if that doesnt get the dealth penalty...

and socks, a convicted felon is not allowed to own a gun in the US...

Not to mention, no way he shot 30 rounds if it wasn't full automatic.

Ron Bennett 11-01-2008 06:13 PM

Trick or treating has waned quite a bit, since the late 1970s / early 1980s...

Back then, most every kid (excepting those for religious reasons) went out on Halloween, regardless of the day it fell on, and went door to door late into the evening.

These days, many less kids go out - those who do often go with adult supervision, and trick or treating is typically limited to just an hour or so on a few streets (sometimes with the kids being driven for part of it!) and/or even more restricted, such as trick or treating at the local mall.

My guess is that in a decade or so, trick or treating, like many other things, will mostly be done virtually on the internet.

Ron

Rochard 11-01-2008 06:18 PM

Clearly what need is more fucking guns!

StuartD 11-01-2008 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 14989793)
Clearly what need is more fucking guns!

yes because that would have helped her.

woj 11-01-2008 06:22 PM

that's fucked up :-/

brassmonkey 11-01-2008 06:30 PM

damn a knock on the door hes a damn idiot where the fuck were her parents i would have pistol wipped his ass then put 1 in his forehead

Iron Fist 11-01-2008 06:30 PM

But officer, he really was scary... I thought he was my dealer!

GatorB 11-01-2008 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14989609)
if that doesnt get the dealth penalty...

and socks, a convicted felon is not allowed to own a gun in the US...

Hey this is America we have a right to have guns and shoot people when we feel threatened. No crime was committed. The 2nd Amendment says so.

GatorB 11-01-2008 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 14989830)
yes because that would have helped her.

You just don't udnerstand logic. You know like if you have AIDS then the answer is to get herpes and syphylis and ghonorhea. It scares the AIDS then it won't kill you. THINK dummy!

brassmonkey 11-01-2008 06:40 PM

ok i read the story his dad and sibling took some shots

SmokeyTheBear 11-01-2008 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 14989888)
damn a knock on the door hes a damn idiot where the fuck were her parents i would have pistol wipped his ass then put 1 in his forehead

dad and brother were with him , they were also shot but did not die, mom was in the car waiting at the end of the driveway

Greg MissionD 11-01-2008 06:43 PM

Very sad story indeed... More gun control is certainly needed

brassmonkey 11-01-2008 06:47 PM

man guns are out this shit happens im not giving up my right to have a gun

GatorB 11-01-2008 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg MissionD (Post 14989999)
Very sad story indeed... More gun control is certainly needed

Guns don't kill people...... bullets do.

Mutt 11-01-2008 06:50 PM

i saw this thread title and tried not to click on it - i failed.

how fucking sad - what a mess the human race is :(

LiveDose 11-01-2008 06:54 PM

That is sickening.

TheDoc 11-01-2008 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14989927)
No crime was committed. The 2nd Amendment says so.

He was charged with murder. It's an felony for a felon to own a gun, at that a ak47 and it's murder to kill someone from your house. No 2nd Amendment needed.

GatorB 11-01-2008 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14990168)
He was charged with murder. It's an felony for a felon to own a gun, at that a ak47 and it's murder to kill someone from your house. No 2nd Amendment needed.

Sorry show me WHERE in the 2nd Amendment a felon can not own a gun. Those laws are UNCONSTITUTIONAL. In fact laws preventing people from owning RPGs and tanks are also illegal because the 2nd Amendment says the right to bear ARMS shall NOT be infringed. Go read it. Any person showld be allowed to own any weapon of any kind including biological, chemical and nuclear weapons if you interpret the 2nd amendment to apply to individuals as the NRA does. I'm not sure which part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" is hard to grasp.

TetsuoIronMan 11-01-2008 07:15 PM

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Im Tony Montana! You fuck with me you fuckin' with the best!

papill0n 11-01-2008 07:25 PM

wow what a fucked up piece of crap that guy is

TheDoc 11-01-2008 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14990211)
Sorry show me WHERE in the 2nd Amendment a felon can not own a gun. Those laws are UNCONSTITUTIONAL. In fact laws preventing people from owning RPGs and tanks are also illegal because the 2nd Amendment says the right to bear ARMS shall NOT be infringed. Go read it. Any person showld be allowed to own any weapon of any kind including biological, chemical and nuclear weapons if you interpret the 2nd amendment to apply to individuals as the NRA does. I'm not sure which part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" is hard to grasp.

It doesn't say anything about owning a weapon of any kind. It it doesn't say YOU have the right to own a gun. Different Amendments say you have to honor the laws of the States and the rights of people, and it says you can have your rights taken away. And again, lets not forget owning a guy is fine, killing an innocent person which was not threatening you, again has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.

Rochard 11-01-2008 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 14989830)
yes because that would have helped her.

Bingo. That's my point!

Even if daddy was packing heat, guess what - He would have been hit before he knew what happened to him.

Can someone explain to me why anyone needs an AK47 in their house?

Rochard 11-01-2008 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14990211)
Sorry show me WHERE in the 2nd Amendment a felon can not own a gun. Those laws are UNCONSTITUTIONAL. In fact laws preventing people from owning RPGs and tanks are also illegal because the 2nd Amendment says the right to bear ARMS shall NOT be infringed. Go read it. Any person showld be allowed to own any weapon of any kind including biological, chemical and nuclear weapons if you interpret the 2nd amendment to apply to individuals as the NRA does. I'm not sure which part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" is hard to grasp.


"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


What Militia did this ak47 carrying mother fucker belong to?

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-01-2008 08:33 PM

GatorB is clearly bananas. I assume he shares the same rocker that that one cgi-tube guy fell off of.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-01-2008 08:45 PM

what completely amazes me is the fact that the pro gun types will utilize the felons cannot buy guns argument why ignoring the fact that the majority of mass gun killings and killing of family members, school shootings etc are committed by non felons

often times retired military, cops or other blemish free individuals

Crazy crazy world

GatorB 11-01-2008 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 14990344)

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


What Militia did this ak47 carrying mother fucker belong to?

99.9999% of gun owners do NOT belong to miltias.

Nicky 11-01-2008 09:03 PM

Only in America ladies and gentlemen.....well mostly atleast

DWB 11-01-2008 09:08 PM

Jesus that is horrible.

- Jesus Christ - 11-01-2008 09:34 PM

Here's the problem with gun control... oppression.

I'm not saying right now its horrible and we need to take to the streets shooting, but the reality is that one day It may reach that point. This is why the amendment exists. The whole idea of the local militias was to prevent the centralization of power and tyranny.

The emotional response to a tragedy can easily make people ignore the long term issues of the society as a whole. It's almost as if people are being trained to focus on instant gratification and their own feeling in any given moment.

When weapons are criminalized only criminals and governments have them. What happens when the criminals and the government are one in the same?

The the holocaust started in 1941... that was 59 years ago. Think about it for a minute. Its not some long distant past. In terms of human history that was yesterday.

I feel as sad and disgusted at this story as those of you who want weapons more controlled, but I cannot be foolish enough to believe in the utopian delusion required to think we are ready for that right now.

brassmonkey 11-01-2008 09:41 PM

i have 2 ak-47's russian and a chinese

GatorB 11-01-2008 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ - (Post 14990721)
Here's the problem with gun control... oppression.

I'm not saying right now its horrible and we need to take to the streets shooting, but the reality is that one day It may reach that point. This is why the amendment exists. The whole idea of the local militias was to prevent the centralization of power and tyranny.

This isn't 1776. If you think a bunch of redneck and their shotguns and deer rifles can some stop a government that decided to become "evil" you are nuts. YOUR gun vs a tank. Whom am I betting on? If the government decide to become evil the first people taken out to be shot are people with guns. Even during the Civil War where the odds were a lot more even the south couldn't win.

Quote:

The the holocaust started in 1941... that was 59 years ago. Think about it for a minute. Its not some long distant past. In terms of human history that was yesterday.
if you think that if the Jews had guns that would have stopped Hitler your nuts. Look at how it took PROFESSIONAL armies to stop him. All guns would have done was to encourage Hitler to speed up the "final solution"

Quote:

I feel as sad and disgusted at this story as those of you who want weapons more controlled, but I cannot be foolish enough to believe in the utopian delusion required to think we are ready for that right now.
Last time I checked Canada, Australia and the UK are pretty free. Combined they have about 40% of the popualtion if the US and have 2% the gun death rate. hmmmmmm. I'm a HUGE believer in statistics. LOGIC and REASONING and abandoning EMOTION when making decision with ALWAYS lead to the correct answer.

GatorB 11-01-2008 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 14990746)
i have 2 ak-47's russian and a chinese

Your penis must really be small.

baddog 11-01-2008 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14989609)
if that doesnt get the dealth penalty...

and socks, a convicted felon is not allowed to own a gun in the US...

Wait a minute, you mean even if there were gun laws convicts would not follow them?

So much for that idea.

brassmonkey 11-01-2008 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14990780)
Your penis must really be small.

lol :1orglaugh just because i have guns :upsidedow

Jakez 11-01-2008 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 14989598)
Hooray for guns! USA. USA. USA. USA.

In this single line you give off the idea that you think USA is the only country that contains citizens equipped with guns, or that guns should be banned outright. Clearly those are some EXTREMELY idiotic thoughts.

- Jesus Christ - 11-01-2008 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14990775)
This isn't 1776. If you think a bunch of redneck and their shotguns and deer rifles can some stop a government that decided to become "evil" you are nuts. YOUR gun vs a tank. Whom am I betting on? If the government decide to become evil the first people taken out to be shot are people with guns. Even during the Civil War where the odds were a lot more even the south couldn't win.



if you think that if the Jews had guns that would have stopped Hitler your nuts. Look at how it took PROFESSIONAL armies to stop him. All guns would have done was to encourage Hitler to speed up the "final solution"



Last time I checked Canada, Australia and the UK are pretty free. Combined they have about 40% of the population if the US and have 2% the gun death rate. hmmmmmm. I'm a HUGE believer in statistics. LOGIC and REASONING and abandoning EMOTION when making decision with ALWAYS lead to the correct answer.

You basically built a bunch of straw men from things I never said then attacked them. "You're nuts" if you think I'm going to engage you further in that type of conversation. Let me just say I do understand why you feel the way you do.

People can decide for themselves wich argument is based on emotion.


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