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How can Trump Make America Great Again when he himself can not even get a "average" score on the job..
So much lies.. so many Red Hats fall for them..
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Poor Canadians still don't know they're irrelevant.
Right next door to an economic powerhouse with unprecedented success and you're still faltering with your "leader" more concerned about discussing the pressing global issue of transgender bathrooms at G8 summits than actually running a nations economy.
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And there's the thing when he got fired from a high rated NBC show because of his stupid mouth. He should be waiting to die in obscurity. We live in an alternate reality where Donald Trump matters way more than he should. Way, way more.
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Your stats are false Mark.
According to the polls...Trump's approval rating has edged down the last few days to 42% (down from 46% in April) https://news.gallup.com/poll/257645/...dges-down.aspx Also...President Obama had glowing and even LOVING reporting on his Presidency (remember Chris Matthews on MSNBC blurted that he got a "thrill up his leg" when he heard Obama speak). Imagine how high President Trump's approval ratings would be if he had THAT kind of fawning coverage? The country was in the shitter the entire 8 years of the Obama Presidency. Trump has the economy ROARING after he repealed every single Obama economic Executive Order, dropped taxes, and eased regulations (creating a pro-business environment). If the media weren't attacking him 24/7 he would be the most popular President in history. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/b...rcent-negative |
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Whoever put up that pack of lies you copied was being deceptive. And you fell for it hook, line, and sinker. It also plainly says at the bottom of that image full of wrong stuff: "Source: Public Policy Polling" That's not Gallup, or Brookings Institution. or Politifact. or anything else. Did that person cherry pick through stuff they MAY have found from those sources? Absolutely! Especially the "promises" one. Wow. I voted for Obama in 2008 bases on specific things he said on the campaign trail. He did NOT fulfill them. And worse...he didn't even try. Anyway...as I said...I actually linked you to Gallup and the job approval ratings. Your image of b.s. stats is false. https://news.gallup.com/poll/257645/...dges-down.aspx Not only that, but you willfully ignore that the President's ratings would be great if the media weren't attacking him with negative coverage 24/7 and giving him no positive coverage of any kind for all of his accomplishments. If the media had done that to Obama, he would have been the most hated man in the world. Hell, if the media had done that to Mother Theresa, even she would have been hated. But Trump is kicking so much ass that he STILL has a 42% job approval even though half the country are Democrat and the media tries to show him in a bad light every minute of every day. No other person could do that. |
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As per your own link, it shows Trump approval in Feb.2019 at 37 %: So Robbie, it is false to claim that ther stats are false .... If you want falsehood, just listen daily to your president ... you will be in heaven .... |
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Mark, Fox News NEVER said that President Obama was "dangerous", a "traitor", that there was "treason", that he was a "Nazi"...Fuck no! Fox News did not treat Obama the way that the media has treated President Trump since he first announced.
As for the "promises" one. I just looked at that...dude wake up! President Obama's "promises" in his first campaign were not kept. He didn't even TRY during the first 2 years. He sat on his ass and basically took orders from Senator Harry Reid and Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi. And the only thing of any import that was done was the horrible "ObamaCare". Meanwhile, the country was falling apart over the housing market collapse and subsequent economic collapse. Christ. Talk about trying to re-write history. As for President Trump...he hasn't "broken" ANY promises. He has pushed and fought for everything he said he would. First he had to fight his own party. Paul Ryan was so anti-Trump that he wouldn't do a goddamn thing in the House to push the agenda. Then you had John McCain who was so bitter in his final years. The fact the he campaigned on repealing and replacing ObamaCare AND Trump endorsed him AND campaigned for him...and McCain STILL fucked over his own constituents and the entire nation by voting down a new healthcare bill. I know I'm wasting my breath. You and the rest of the anti-Trump people live in an alternative universe. The one I live in has Trump moving Heaven and Earth to build a border wall, fighting with liberal judges who keep striking down his Executive Orders that DO fulfill his promises, and a Democrat Party that is in full Trump Delusional Syndrome mode and totally hysterical...and they won't work with him on ANYTHING. Even things that they have claimed they always wanted. And yet...by every measure and metric...Trump's policy's are working as the country is in the best shape it's been in for decades. Unless you are anti-Trump. In which case none of that matters and he is the worst of all times. |
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Mark, everyone KNOWS that Fox News OPINION shows are conservative.
The actual NEWS shows (not talk shows) on Fox News NEVER said anything close to what the media is saying about Trump. You are just plain flat out wrong. Playing pieces of Fox opinion shows, CNBC financial shows (yes, business people hated Obama's policies), audio from Rush Limbaugh's radio show, clip from the 700 Club t.v. network, and video from freakin' Info Wars is NOT the same thing as Don Lemon, Anderson Cooper, Jake Tapper, Erin Burnett, Wolf Blitzer, etc. all proclaiming to be "NEWS" (not opinion) and calling Trump a "traitor", "treasonous", "stupid", a "Nazi", a "liar"....the list goes on and on and on every day 24 hours a day. Fox News actually has NEWS shows (Shepard Smith, Brett Bair, Bill Hemmer, Jon Scott, Mike Wallace) that are not disrespectful or opinionated towards anyone or anything. They actually do the NEWS. Even President Carter said he has NEVER seen the media treat a President the way they do now. It's never happened before. Even when EVERYTHING bad in the world was "Bush" for eight years and then eight more years during the Obama admin (when all of the country's problems were still blamed on Bush). Even when they attacked Reagan unmercifully for eight years. I can't even fathom where you and the people who put that video together come from...it's insanity on your part to continue to keep posting shit like this. Divisiveness and hatred is all this continues to cause. |
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Opinions can't be "terrible". They are opinions only. There is a limit though. In my opinion it's when you go after a person instead of their policy's. 2. Seriously? You don't read the sheer hatred on this very topic from people attacking me personally just because I don't agree with them? It's pretty evident in all social media in case you've been willfully ignoring it. |
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I'm of the mind that the Dems don't have a viable candidate against Trump...yet. But you never know. Nobody thought Trump would win either. And in 2008...it was supposed to be Hillary then too. Until an unknown named Barrack Obama captured the country's imagination. In other words...even though there are already a hundred Dems running for President, there is still time for an electrifying candidate to step forward...or for one of the current ones to suddenly shine like they never have in their entire careers. |
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Cooper, Lemon, Cuomo, Tapper, etc. ? You can't even get them to admit they are Democrats...much less liberal progressives. They will deny it every time. And proclaim that they are reporting the news in a non-biased way. Yes Mark...Hannity is a talk show. The reporting he does is based on what he WANTS to find. That is NOT straight reporting the news. It is hunting specific things and highlighting them. And that is EXACTLY what CNN does 24 hours a day. 7 days a week. And you can add MSNBC to that as well. Hannity CHOOSES to only report on bad things the Democrats have done and ignore bad things that Trump does. CNN and MSNBC and The NY Times and the Washington Post and ABC News and CBS News and NBC News do the inverse. Difference is...one is a one hour talk show (Hannity). The others are supposed to be the well-respected American press. And the result? Divisiveness and hatred. Those media outlets have gotten you convinced along with half the people in this country that Trump is a "Nazi", "dangerous", a "traitor", a "con man", etc. , etc. And because they carefully pick and choose what to report and more importantly what NOT to report...you are left scratching your head how people like me could not "see" this. In my opinion this is a deliberate attempt to divide people and cause friction. And the irony of it is that the media constantly claims that Trump is the one dividing us because he calls his political opponents funny nicknames like "Crooked Hillary", "Crazy Bernie", "Pocahantas", or "Sleepy Joe". Meanwhile they call him a "liar", "con man" , "traitor" , "incompetent"...and every derogatory name you can think of. And they actively work to destroy his Presidency, impeach him, imprison his family and friends, and ruin his businesses worldwide. |
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Hannity is a TALK SHOW HOST! Jesus Fucking Christ Mark! What is wrong with you man? I have said it over and over and over. He clearly says he is a talk show host. He also "reports" stuff on his show. And he cherry picks it to make Republicans look good and Dems look bad. Are you now going to post again and ask me this same damn thing over and over? WTF? He is a biased talk show host. That's what his show is all about. So are Anderson Cooper, Rachel Maddow, Erin Burnett, Jake Tapper, Chuck Todd, Chris Cuomo, Chris Hayes, Lawrence Odonnel, Tucker Carlson, etc. But the difference is...those "hosts" on CNN and MSNBC deny they are biased at all and proclaim that they are "reporters" and are "un-biased". The ones on Fox openly tell the viewer that they are watching a talk show with an opinionated host and guests. Am I not communicating this very clearly? If so, I apologize... |
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The UK regulations for TV states that if you want to call your show a NEWS show then it has to be licensed as such, and more importantly you have to report a balanced view. You can still have shows like Fox and CNN, but you would not be able to label your broadcast as a NEWS show. Comment and opinion is fine, but you cannot call it news or you risk fines and ultimately you would lose your broadcast license if you do not comply.
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Robbie, come on don't be a sore loser. Let's recap, ok?
I shared numbers & stats here, and included the sources. We could have debated the value of the stats or its potential future trends if you wanted to. But instead you mistakenly called them all false here but then added a link to the "correct" stats, which were actually the same stats I showed. Embarrassing mistake sure, but we all do that sometimes. I pointed out your goof in post #11, but in your post #12 you doubled-down on the same mistake calling it a "pack of lies" and saying that "I fell for it". Again, you and I are sighting the same source. Directfiesta took the time to politely point out your goof too in post #13 and I listed the rest of the sources that you said I did not, with links, in post #19. In your post#22 you said Fox News never treated Obama badly but this is easily proven to be incorrect as RedFred did here in point 23 and I did here in post 24. In post 26 you said "everyone KNOWS that Fox News OPINION shows are conservative". Yes they are, but you changed the subject. You first said "Fox News", and now you said "Fox News Opinion Shows". But anyway that's fine to narrow the scope. You went on to say this: Quote:
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