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RedFred · 04-18-2019, 02:21 PM

These cultists are half-heartedly trying to defend Trump. The only way this report could have been any worse is if he were indicted. It did not say there was no collusion, it did not say there was no obstruction, it did not say he was exonerated, matter of fact it said they could not rule out if Trump committed any crimes. No innocent man would say "I'm fucked" when learning they are going to be investigated. Anyone with over an IQ of 40 can see Trump is a criminal.

crockett · 04-18-2019, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFred

These cultists are half-heartedly trying to defend Trump. The only way this report could have been any worse is if he were indicted. It did not say there was no collusion, it did not say there was no obstruction, it did not say he was exonerated, matter of fact it said they could not rule out if Trump committed any crimes. No innocent man would say "I'm fucked" when learning they are going to be investigated. Anyone with over an IQ of 40 can see Trump is a criminal.

The simple fact is Trump did everything required to be charged for conspiracy aginst America but they didn't find any formal agreement to work with Russians. But what do you call a formal agreement?

Would that be like when Trump said "Russians if you get those emails you will be rewarded" then within 2hrs they were trying to hack DNC email server. That was ok because he just said stuff then stuff happened?

They actually did not even investigate "collussion" if you read the report they investigated "conspiracy ".

RedFred · 04-18-2019, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

The simple fact is Trump did everything required to be charged for conspiracy aginst America but they didn't find any formal agreement to work with Russians.

They actually did not even investigate "collussion" if you read the report they investigated "conspiracy ".

And it also mentioned the DOJ policy of not to indict a sitting President and pointed out this was for Congress to decide.

If it wasn't the President he would have been indicted.

Bladewire · 04-18-2019, 02:31 PM

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This is why Barr is trying to keep the unredacted report from Congress and Americans. Muller intended for Congress to look at the information and make a judgment on impeachment.

Once Trump was no longer President they can then indict him.. That's what he is saying by saying "presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved"..

He is saying Trump has to no longer be a sitting president to be indicted

That sums it all up tight there

Trump is guilty but can't be indicted yet because DOJ won't indict a sitting president. We also have a policy in America of not going after officials after they leave office. If we impeach it will take more than 2 years and the corrupt Republican Senate will not vote to impeach Trump, no matter how guilty he is. So Trump gets off scott free, with this investigation at least. There are 17 other ones he has to deal with as well but I'm not sure if any of those are criminal I think they're all civil investigations

crockett · 04-18-2019, 02:49 PM

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That sums it all up tight there

Trump is guilty but can't be indicted yet because DOJ won't indict a sitting president. We also have a policy in America of not going after officials after they leave office. If we impeach it will take more than 2 years and the corrupt Republican Senate will not vote to impeach Trump, no matter how guilty he is. So Trump gets off scott free, with this investigation at least. There are 17 other ones he has to deal with as well but I'm not sure if any of those are criminal I think they're all civil investigations

Trump actually can be indicted he is not above the law, but the DOJ's long standing opinion was to not do so in order to not make federal indictments a political tool.

There is no law barring his indictment but rather a opinion by the DOJ.

crockett · 04-18-2019, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFred

And it also mentioned the DOJ policy of not to indict a sitting President and pointed out this was for Congress to decide.

If it wasn't the President he would have been indicted.

If not the president he would have also been indicted over Campaign finance violations just like Cohen..

The only reason he is not sitting in jail right now is because he's sitting in the oval office.

We have a unindicted criminal in the WH right now. Even what we can see in the report shows us that.

Impeachment is in order.

Bladewire · 04-18-2019, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Trump actually can be indicted he is not above the law, but the DOJ's long standing opinion was to not do so in order to not make federal indictments a political tool.

Exactly

The DOJ's guidelines make POTUS above the law.

Sucks but that's where we are right now.

crockett · 04-18-2019, 02:57 PM

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Exactly

The DOJ's guidelines make POTUS above the law.

Sucks but that's where we are right now.

DOJ guide lines were in place because it was expected Congress would do its job to protect the country.

The Senate clearly will not do its job to protect America and the AG is trying to stop the House from doing its job.

Rochard · 04-18-2019, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

The simple fact is Trump did everything required to be charged for conspiracy aginst America but they didn't find any formal agreement to work with Russians. But what do you call a formal agreement?

Would that be like when Trump said "Russians if you get those emails you will be rewarded" then within 2hrs they were trying to hack DNC email server. That was ok because he just said stuff then stuff happened?

They actually did not even investigate "collussion" if you read the report they investigated "conspiracy ".

Well.... When Trump says "Russia, find Hillary's emails" and hours later Russia starts finding Hillarys emails.... Seems like there was some formal agreement.

onwebcam · 04-18-2019, 03:39 PM

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Third, the investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the investigation of Russian interference.

That is the very definition of obstruction of justice.

Barr has committed a cover up..

All I read was "MORE CROW PLEASE"

RedFred · 04-18-2019, 04:26 PM

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All I read was "MORE CROW PLEASE"

CaptainHowdy · 04-18-2019, 06:05 PM

Acepimp · 04-18-2019, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Third, the investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the investigation of Russian interference.

That is the very definition of obstruction of justice.

WRONG. No collusion. No obstruction of the investigation into the non-existant collusion. Grow up, Hillbot.

Acepimp · 04-18-2019, 06:29 PM

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So far as I am concerned this is treason.

LOL!!! OMG you crack me up, dude!

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RedFred Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 9,782	These cultists are half-heartedly trying to defend Trump. The only way this report could have been any worse is if he were indicted. It did not say there was no collusion, it did not say there was no obstruction, it did not say he was exonerated, matter of fact it said they could not rule out if Trump committed any crimes. No innocent man would say "I'm fucked" when learning they are going to be investigated. Anyone with over an IQ of 40 can see Trump is a criminal.