Obstruction is a proven fact...

[crockett]

Third, the investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the investigation of Russian interference.


That is the very definition of obstruction of justice.


Barr has committed a cover up..

[escorpio]

[Bladewire]

They also just read in the evidence part of the Mueller report that manafort met with the Russian at the cigar shop (I can't remember his name) and manafort told the Russian the three key states to the: Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

So this is part of Manafort's case, and they couldn't prove that Trump knew what manafort was doing.

Clearly a member of Trumps campaign meeting a Russian and telling the Russian to states to target is, by definition, conspiring against the United States.

[King Mark]

Originally Posted by escorpio

^ever heard of not counting your eggs before they hatch?

Report hasn't even been out a whole hour yet lol

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Dead Eye

^ever heard of not counting your eggs before they hatch?

Report hasn't even been out a whole hour yet

I'm quoting what they just read out loud on TV.

So there's no counting my eggs before they hatch I have no eggs to count.

At the end of the day Trump has a corrupt attorney general, this is his third attorney general in 2 years, and he finally found one that will lie and cover-up for him.

It's as simple as that so there's nothing anyone can do, as far as I know. End of story.

The report could say that Trump committed collusion and the Trump conspired against America (which it shows a lit if evidence if) and it doesn't matter because we have an attorney general that will not do anything. And impeaching the president will take more than 2 years and Congress won't complete the impeachment just like Clinton and just like Nixon. Simple as that

[King Mark]

I edited my post. Wasn't for you.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Dead Eye

I edited my post.

Oh, got it

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by Dead Eye

I edited my post.

Y'all like music? Then y'all gonna love this!

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

They also just read in the evidence part of the Mueller report that manafort met with the Russian at the cigar shop (I can't remember his name) and manafort told the Russian the three key states to the: Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

So this is part of Manafort's case, and they couldn't prove that Trump knew what manafort was doing.

Clearly a member of Trumps campaign meeting a Russian and telling the Russian to states to target is, by definition, conspiring against the United States.

Well... This was common information. Anyone who watched CNN knew this.

But Manafort went so much further than naming three states Russian needed to focus on. Manafort was physically handing over polling data. Lots of it.

[King Mark]

Originally Posted by escorpio

Y'all like music? Then y'all gonna love this!

^don't start with me bro. Your username and past posts indicate you really don't want this smoke.

I understand being hype over the report, but don't let it put you in a situation...

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Well... This was common information. Anyone who watched CNN knew this.

But Manafort went so much further than naming three states Russian needed to focus on. Manafort was physically handing over polling data. Lots of it.

Yes. Exactly.

I had heard about the polling data and I had heard about the meeting but I had not heard before that he told the Russian operative exactly what states to target that was new to me.

[Bladewire]

Conspiring with Russia

[OneHungLo]

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by Dead Eye

^don't start with me bro. Your username and past posts indicate you really don't want this smoke.

I understand being hype over the report, but don't let it put you in a situation...

Damn dude, lighten up. I was just trying to turn you onto some sweet ass butt rock from the glorious 1970's. I think you need to throw some smoke your own way this a.m. Y'all taking life way too seriously.

[King Mark]

^you may be correct. Can't even deny that. I'ma take your advice and roll one up.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Dead Eye

^you may be correct. Can't even deny that. I'ma take your advice and roll one up.

GG#4?

[King Mark]

Yup... 😊

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Dead Eye

Yup... 😊

Why don't you vape it instead?

[King Mark]

I do mostly.

But I'm old school and need to actually taste the flowers every now and then.

I truly enjoy this shit. The smells, tastes, textures, colors... Even the act of breaking it up with my fingers (no grinder) and rolling up.

You get none of that with vaping.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Yes. Exactly.

I had heard about the polling data and I had heard about the meeting but I had not heard before that he told the Russian operative exactly what states to target that was new to me.

Manafort told the Russians exactly where the Trump campaign needed help.... This is so much more than saying "We need help in three states"; This was exact polling data and lots of it. This is the Trump campaign handing over data to Russia and telling them exactly where to target. And that is, without a doubt, collusion.

Is it illegal? Dunno. That's up to attorneys to decide. But at the very least the Trump campaign went directly to the Russians and told the exactly where they needed help, and Russia helped. This is receiving aid from a foreign government, which is in fact a crime.

So far as I am concerned this is treason. I don't care if they got help from Russia or from England or France; It's still treason.

And this is just ONE example of collusion.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Manafort told the Russians exactly where the Trump campaign needed help.... This is so much more than saying "We need help in three states"; This was exact polling data and lots of it. This is the Trump campaign handing over data to Russia and telling them exactly where to target. And that is, without a doubt, collusion.

Is it illegal? Dunno. That's up to attorneys to decide. But at the very least the Trump campaign went directly to the Russians and told the exactly where they needed help, and Russia helped. This is receiving aid from a foreign government, which is in fact a crime.

So far as I am concerned this is treason. I don't care if they got help from Russia or from England or France; It's still treason.

And this is just ONE example of collusion.

In his report on pages 2 & 3 Mueller hands this off to congress when he states that he cannot indict a sitting president. And then on page 3 he says because he cannot indict a sitting president saying that Trump is guilty he is unfair because he cannot be tried and he cannot defend himself because it will never go to court.

That's saying that Congress has to impeach him because the court cannot indict a sitting president.

Barr was lying when he said there's no evidence of collusion and instruction.

Mueller specifically states in the report on pages 2 & 3 that there is a lot of evidence but he cannot indict a sitting president.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Manafort told the Russians exactly where the Trump campaign needed help.... This is so much more than saying "We need help in three states"; This was exact polling data and lots of it. This is the Trump campaign handing over data to Russia and telling them exactly where to target. And that is, without a doubt, collusion.

Is it illegal? Dunno. That's up to attorneys to decide. But at the very least the Trump campaign went directly to the Russians and told the exactly where they needed help, and Russia helped. This is receiving aid from a foreign government, which is in fact a crime.

So far as I am concerned this is treason. I don't care if they got help from Russia or from England or France; It's still treason.

And this is just ONE example of collusion.

the point that i can not understand at all is why a fuck one need to prove that trump was personally involved or not.

it is a proven fact that this elections have been manipulated by the russians. not even trump denies that. so the voting result was based on fake news that russians spread.

it is the same issue as we see in britain now. people voted for a "truth" that was proven wrong later.

how can that then be called a democratic vote ???

how can you call one and the same thing in the same sentence democratic, legal and manipulated?

this will never go into my head.

if an athlete is convicted of doping after he has won, he will lose his title. and it doesn't matter if he knew that he was doped or not.

why can a "doped" president still be in office?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by thommy

the point that i can not understand at all is why a fuck one need to prove that trump was personally involved or not.

it is a proven fact that this elections have been manipulated by the russians. not even trump denies that. so the voting result was based on fake news that russians spread.

it is the same issue as we see in britain now. people voted for a "truth" that was proven wrong later.

how can that then be called a democratic vote ???

how can you call one and the same thing in the same sentence democratic, legal and manipulated?

this will never go into my head.

if an athlete is convicted of doping after he has won, he will lose his title. and it doesn't matter if he knew that he was doped or not.

why can a "doped" president still be in office?

Because 1 half of our govt and 3/4 of the govt prior to the last election was perfectly fine with Russians attacking our election so long as it benefited them. The entire Republican party, the GOP, the RNC are criminals and traitors. There is not a single Republican in office who has stood up to demand action be taken to stop interference in our elections Every single one has called it fake news..

Republicans themselves have attacked and rigged our election system, so if Russians are helping them, then they are perfectly fine with the help. They are traitors.

So far as I'm concerned if that baseball field shooter had had better aim, our country would be better off right now. As it sits right now we have a political party in America that is traitors. There is no fixing that with talk..

Republicans are fucking damn lucky the left isn't as deranged and filled with lunatics like the right is. If Obama or Hillary had done even a tenth of this shit, right wing lunatics would have been bombing federal buildings..

We don't have a "Russian" problem.. Russia is a easy to solve problem for any competent leader with this country in mind. No it's not Russia that is the problem.. The Right wing and Republicans are the problem. They are lunatics and traitors.


This entire administration and the Republican Congress who enabled them will go down in the history books as the govt who killed this county. They have sewed a divide that will not be fixed with out crushing them and removing every trace of them from our govt. After Nixion people like Manafort and Stone and Barr were left in our govt to fester and destroy it. We now see the result of that today.

[TampaToker]

Originally Posted by crockett

Because 1 half of our govt and 3/4 of the govt prior to the last election was perfectly fine with Russians attacking our election so long as it benefited them. The entire Republican party, the GOP, the RNC are criminals and traitors. There is not a single Republican in office who has stood up to demand action be taken to stop interference in our elections Every single one has called it fake news..

Here we go with the team politics again. You seem to forget the FBI has been watching this russian group since 2014. Fbi was told stand down in 2015. You forget obama cyber chief confirms stand down order against russian in june of 2016. Funny how that just slips your mind lol

[TampaToker]

Originally Posted by crockett

So far as I'm concerned if that baseball field shooter had had better aim, our country would be better off right now. As it sits right now we have a political party in America that is traitors. There is no fixing that with talk..

.

You sir are truly a piece of shit

[crockett]

Originally Posted by TampaToker

You sir are truly a piece of shit

fuck off traitor..

[TampaToker]

Originally Posted by crockett

fuck off traitor..

Seek help dude seek help you got issues

[crockett]

Originally Posted by TampaToker

Seek help dude seek help you got issues

The only issue is we have traitors like you in this country..

[TampaToker]

Originally Posted by crockett

The only issue is we have traitors like you in this country..

So because i disagree with you politically i am a traitor got it I noticed you passed right over the stand down orders were given under obama

[crockett]

Originally Posted by TampaToker

So because i disagree with you politically i am a traitor got it I noticed you passed right over the stand down orders were given under obama

No because you turn a blind eye to traitors in our govt hence you are also a traitor..

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by crockett

The only issue is we have traitors like you in this country..

[TampaToker]

Originally Posted by crockett

No because you turn a blind eye to traitors in our govt hence you are also a traitor..

Is that suppose to offend me some smuck calls me traitor over the internet. Life is good man go out side take a deep breath life is good

[crockett]

Originally Posted by TampaToker

Is that suppose to offend me some smuck calls me traitor over the internet. Life is good man go out side take a deep breath life is good

You offend yourself, but you are too stupid to know it.

[TampaToker]

Originally Posted by crockett

You offend yourself, but you are too stupid to know it.

I am the stupid one yet you want people killed over your political beliefs. I am the stupid one but you cry every day Trump this republicans that. I am the stupid one yet you blame everyone for your failures in life. I got it i am the stupid one

[crockett]

Originally Posted by TampaToker

I am the stupid one yet you want people killed over your political beliefs. I am the stupid one but you cry every day Trump this republicans that. I am the stupid one yet you blame everyone for your failures in life. I got it i am the stupid one

I support the US Constitution and what it tells us to do when tyrants attempt to take control of our govt. You support the tyrants so long as they are on your side..

The difference between me and you , is if this were a Democrat doing this, I'd be saying the same things.. You on the other hand have a proven track record of claiming Obama was a Muslim ect..ect because he was a Democrat yet nothing Trump does is bad..

Me I have a proven track record of criticizing Obama when he did shit wrong..

You are a traitor.. I'm a American citizen who believes in rule of law and democracy.. The US Constitution tells us if the govt becomes corrupt and the rule of law stops working then it's the responsibility of the US citizen to overthrow that govt. I'm letting the rule of law do it's work.. because I support the US Constitution, but the moment there is no chance the rule of law will be upheld, then it's time to act to take this country back from corrupt tyrants..


The simple fact is Muller did not exonerate Trump of Obstruction of justice. He deferred prosecution because he stated he could not indict a sitting president. Muller stated if he could have exonerated Trump he would have, but he could not...

That means the evidence shows Trump obstructed justice.. Muller is deferring handing out justice to Congress but instead of that happening the AG Barr stepped in and made up cover story for Trump and has refused to release the underacted report to Congress..

Barr is attempting to run a cover up.. He is Obstructing Justice..

The evidence shows there was obstruction and the evidence shows there was contacts with Russia and direct corporation with the Russians that went so far and directly telling them states to target for their attacks on our election. Barr refused to indict..

Either we are a nation of laws or we become a nation of violence..

[King Mark]

Like a "wise" man once said:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

We got laws and ordinances here. Either follow them or get the hell out.

https://m.gfy.com/22451097-post2.html

[TampaToker]

Originally Posted by crockett

I support the US Constitution and what it tells us to do when tyrants attempt to take control of our govt. You support the tyrants so long as they are on your side..

The difference between me and you , is if this were a Democrat doing this, I'd be saying the same things.. You on the other hand have a proven track record of claiming Obama was a Muslim ect..ect because he was a Democrat yet nothing Trump does is bad..

Me I have a proven track record of criticizing Obama when he did shit wrong..

You are a traitor.. I'm a American citizen who believes in rule of law and democracy.. The US Constitution tells us if the govt becomes corrupt and the rule of law stops working then it's the responsibility of the US citizen to overthrow that govt. I'm letting the rule of law do it's work.. because I support the US Constitution, but the moment there is no chance the rule of law will be upheld, then it's time to act to take this country back from corrupt tyrants..


The simple fact is Muller did not exonerate Trump of Obstruction of justice. He deferred prosecution because he stated he could not indict a sitting president. Muller stated if he could have exonerated Trump he would have, but he could not...

That means the evidence shows Trump obstructed justice.. Muller is deferring handing out justice to Congress but instead of that happening the AG Barr stepped in and made up cover story for Trump and has refused to release the underacted report to Congress..

Barr is attempting to run a cover up.. He is Obstructing Justice..

The evidence shows there was obstruction and the evidence shows there was contacts with Russia and direct corporation with the Russians that went so far and directly telling them states to target for their attacks on our election. Barr refused to indict..

Either we are a nation of laws or we become a nation of violence..

Um you got me fucked up with someone else i never said obama was a Muslim. Hell i even voted for him 2 times so i do not know wtf to tell you but what you just stated is wrong.

You got some real deep dark issues you need to address before you hurt yourself or hurt someone else

[crockett]

Originally Posted by TampaToker

Is that suppose to offend me some smuck calls me traitor over the internet. Life is good man go out side take a deep breath life is good

The IRA, a Russian troll farm with close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin and Russian intelligence agencies, organized pro-Trump and anti-Clinton rallies on U.S. soil for years, including events in New York, Florida and Pennsylvania.

Muller Report...


Added to this PA & FL are two of the states Stone told the Russians to target..

Did you attend any of these commie meetings Tampa Toker?

[TampaToker]

Originally Posted by crockett

The IRA, a Russian troll farm with close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin and Russian intelligence agencies, organized pro-Trump and anti-Clinton rallies on U.S. soil for years, including events in New York, Florida and Pennsylvania.

Muller Report...


Did you attend any of these commie meetings Tampa Toker?

Once again Oabma told his cyber chief and fbi to stand down on russia so why not ask Oabma? Maybe Obama was at one of those commie meetings

[crockett]

Originally Posted by TampaToker

Once again Oabma told his cyber chief and fbi to stand down on russia so why not ask Oabma? Maybe Obama was at one of those commie meetings

That's NOT what happened.. As usual you Red Hats lie about everything..

Obama tasked her with coming up with counter measures to stop the Russian hacking. One of those "counter measures" she came up with was to launch DDOS attacks on Russian Media..


Obama did not approve that action so that's what your right wing "brainwashing" tells you is a "stand down" order..

Holy fuck you are stupid.

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by crockett

[Tasty1]

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

It's as simple as that so there's nothing anyone can do, as far as I know. End of story.

Something tells me you guys will find something to scream about.

By the end of Trumps second term, you guys will be renamed "the party of waaaa".

[crockett]

Pg 182 Conclusion:

"Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgments, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President’s conduct. The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we we’re making a traditional prosecutorial judgement. At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgement. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime it also does not exonerate him. "



This is why Barr is trying to keep the unredacted report from Congress and Americans. Muller intended for Congress to look at the information and make a judgment on impeachment.

Once Trump was no longer President they can then indict him.. That's what he is saying by saying "presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved"..

He is saying Trump has to no longer be a sitting president to be indicted


Muller is clearly saying Trump obstructed justice but he cant indict a sitting president.


Barr has lied to the American people. He is attempting to obstruct justice by not giving Congress the ability to decide if impeachment is necessary. This is why he's trying to keep the unredacted report from Congress he doesn't want this going to impeachment

Barr is corrupt and must be removed from office

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by crockett

Are you gonna be okay?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by escorpio

Are you gonna be okay?

Adults are talking here perhaps go play at 4chan with the other kids..

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by crockett

Adults are talking here perhaps go play at 4chan with the other kids..

[baddog]

Originally Posted by TampaToker

Seek help dude seek help you got issues

I have had the crocket scientist on ignore for a couple years now, but I think a true patriot would drop a dime on him; he is a traitor to our country and is encouraging assassination of members of our Congress.

https://www.fbi.gov/tips

[crockett]

Originally Posted by escorpio

TRE45ON should make every American mad as hell..

[crockett]

Originally Posted by baddog

I have had the crocket scientist on ignore for a couple years now, but I think a true patriot would drop a dime on him; he is a traitor to our country and is encouraging assassination of members of our Congress.

https://www.fbi.gov/tips

You're a pice of shit and too chicken to do it yourself..

Maybe you should turn in JFK as well... He's dead but was a Democrat so we know you hated him..

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable


Maybe you should call and report the founding fathers aswell...


The U.S. Declaration of Independence states that "when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government"