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Old 04-05-2019, 01:23 PM   #1
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Trump fighting tax return request. What does he have to hide?

Nothing to see here...


https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/05/polit...urt/index.html

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Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump continues to hold his ground against Democratic efforts to obtain his tax returns, with one administration official telling CNN that the President and his team are willing to fight the House Democratic request all the way to the Supreme Court.

"This is a hill and people would be willing to die on it," the official said.

House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Richard Neal formally requested six years of Trump's personal tax returns from the Internal Revenue Service in a letter Wednesday.
The official added that the administration is "not going to set the precedent" of turning over tax returns for future occupants of the Oval Office, slamming the House Democrat request from Neal as "abuse and overreach by Congress" and asked what's stopping Senate
Republicans from seeking House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's returns.

"They have zero right to it," the official said, who added Trump has also made it clear he's not releasing his tax returns.
Article here: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/05/polit...urt/index.html

Trump legal letter here: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/05/polit...est/index.html

Should be interesting.
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Mark, the guy has been audited every year for the past 2 decades. Use some common sense here..if you can turn off your TDS.
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Mark, the guy has been audited every year for the past 2 decades. Use some common sense here..if you can turn off your TDS.
1. If Trump has been audited every year for 2 decades he would have been in jail a long time ago.

2. Even if he was under audit (which he's not) there is zero reason for him not to produce them.

3. It would be impossible for him to be under audit for 2018 since those returns were just filed. Why not produce those?

4. He wants to take this fight all the way to the Supreme Court simply because he is under audit?? Are you seriously this stupid or is it just an act?
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We know he paid 25 million in 2015 just ask Rachel Maddow.
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1. If Trump has been audited every year for 2 decades he would have been in jail a long time ago.

2. Even if he was under audit (which he's not) there is zero reason for him not to produce them.

3. It would be impossible for him to be under audit for 2018 since those returns were just filed. Why not produce those?

4. He wants to take this fight all the way to the Supreme Court simply because he is under audit?? Are you seriously this stupid or is it just an act?
Trump has ZERO legal obligation to release his tax returns. Suck it up, pink hat.
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Gee, I wonder what he has to hide?
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It's the lack of what he has, is what he is desperately trying to hide. If released it will prove once and for all what a lying fuck he really is. He brandishes 10 billion as his total wealth depending on which video or report you see Trump says he’s worth “in excess of $10 billion” and blames the “terrible”, “dishonest” media for underestimating his assets.

Donald Trump Net Worth | Money

If the tax returns came out the humiliation would be unbearable for him. If he was telling the truth there is absolutely no reason to withhold them!
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Mark, the guy has been audited every year for the past 2 decades. Use some common sense here..if you can turn off your TDS.

And you have proof of this or are you taking the word of a know liar ?
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Trump's a lying crook & his supporters know it but they're so insecure in their white power movement that they think Trump is the best guy they'll ever get to lead their they support him no matter what. Biggest mistake EVER! For them, long-term good for everybody else though
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the only people that give a flying fuck about trumps taxes are left wing media and attention whore elected democrats.
nobody in the real world gives two shits about his taxes.
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He's hiding the fact that he's not 1/10th as rich as tries to make everyone think he is.

His actual worth is not anywhere near as impressive as everything he "owns" with borrowed money which has him in debt up to his eyeballs.
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He's hiding the fact that he's not 1/10th as rich as tries to make everyone think he is.

His actual worth is not anywhere near as impressive as everything he "owns" with borrowed money which has him in debt up to his eyeballs.

His own biographer claims Trumps net worth is -$600 million.
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Mark, the guy has been audited every year for the past 2 decades. Use some common sense here..if you can turn off your TDS.
So the IRS has it ALL. Even is he's not being audited,, the IRS has everything. The IRS can file criminal charges when there is wrongdoing.

Has the IRS filed criminal charges?

NO?? Great, move on with life
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the only people that give a flying fuck about trumps taxes are left wing media and attention whore elected democrats.
nobody in the real world gives two shits about his taxes.
No we care, because we already know he's a criminal and soon it gets proven the soon we never have to hear him utter stupid shit again

Also I will take great pleasure seeing him get his ego deflated..
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So Mark, what about the $15 million taxpayer dollars that Congress spent settling their sexual harassment lawsuits? You're obsessed with stupid shit while a third of Congress are sexual assaulters. Wake up, dude





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No we care, because we already know he's a criminal and soon it gets proven the soon we never have to hear him utter stupid shit again

Also I will take great pleasure seeing him get his ego deflated..
You don't know any of that. You are hysterical and frankly not very bright.
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Every time I see Asspimp and onedungho comment I think of Jonestown.
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If only we could be so lucky..
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Every time I see Asspimp and onedungho comment I think of Jonestown.
WTF is wrong with you? The IRS has it all and would file charges if he committed crimes. FACT

and Congress spent at least $15M to settle sexual harrassment lawsuits. FACT

But we're in a cult for wanting the list of names of Congressmen who are sexual assaulters?

You DON'T want thsi list, Fred?? So you cover up for rapists. Typical Democrat behavior. Disgusting.
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WTF is wrong with you? The IRS has it all and would file charges if he committed crimes. FACT

and Congress spent at least $15M to settle sexual harrassment lawsuits. FACT

But we're in a cult for wanting the list of names of Congressmen who are sexual assaulters?

You DON'T want thsi list, Fred?? So you cover up for rapists. Typical Democrat behavior. Disgusting.


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he could be like me???? my income is none of your biz. just sayin...
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trump cares more about the us economy than he does about germany and the german economy. hillary is going on tour with her stud. maybe you can get tickets??
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You don't know any of that. You are hysterical and frankly not very bright.
BIll CLINTON for instance... ??
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the only people that give a flying fuck about trumps taxes are left wing media and attention whore elected democrats.
nobody in the real world gives two shits about his taxes.
I think all elected officials should have to disclose their taxes. The voters deserve to know where their money came from, who they owe, or what their businesses are.

Hell, there are a lot of jobs in the FBI, CIA, and other law enforcement where you have to get a credit check and divulge your financial information. If it is good enough for law enforcement it is good enough for Mayors, Governors, Senators, Presidents, etc.
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So the IRS has it ALL. Even is he's not being audited,, the IRS has everything. The IRS can file criminal charges when there is wrongdoing.

Has the IRS filed criminal charges?

NO?? Great, move on with life
So then, Trump shouldn't be so scared. Yet he is. What is he afraid of and what is he trying to hide?
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So then, Trump shouldn't be so scared. Yet he is. What is he afraid of and what is he trying to hide?
Mark, I doubt you'll understand this, but he's just trolling you and the loony lefties. He doesn't have to release tax returns, but he said he will when he feels like it. So he's letting people like you become hysterical, showcasing their insanity. Then when he does release it you people will be proven to be insane conspiracy nutters (even more )

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Mark, I doubt you'll understand this, but he's just trolling you and the loony lefties. He doesn't have to release tax returns, but he said he will when he feels like it. So he's letting people like you become hysterical, showcasing their insanity. Then when he does release it you people will be proven to be insane conspiracy nutters (even more )

Remember when Trump demanding Obama's birth certificate? Same thing.

Trump won't release his tax returns and now suddenly is trying to stop to Mueller report from being released. Why? What does Donald Trump have to hide?
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What does he have to hide ?
Everything !
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Remember when Trump demanding Obama's birth certificate? Same thing.

Trump won't release his tax returns and now suddenly is trying to stop to Mueller report from being released. Why? What does Donald Trump have to hide?
Mark, that's because a valid birth certificate IS A REQUIREMENT. To this day no one has ever seen the original paper one. The PDF version that Obama posted on the White House website was proven by digital forensic experts to be a forgery. Also Obama's own lawyers ADMITTED in court that the certificate he provided was not genuine. By the way his grandmother says that she witnessed him being born in Kenya.

So no, it's not the same thing. Not at all.
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Mark, that's because a valid birth certificate IS A REQUIREMENT. To this day no one has ever seen the original paper one. The PDF version that Obama posted on the White House website was proven by digital forensic experts to be a forgery. Also Obama's own lawyers ADMITTED in court that the certificate he provided was not genuine. By the way his grandmother says that she witnessed him being born in Kenya.

So no, it's not the same thing. Not at all.
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Hello BrainDead Fred. I'm sorry that you dislike facts or are simply uninformed. Nothing I said is false. If it is, post some sort of evidence to support your claim. I know facts aren't your strong suit, but go ahead, prove me wrong.
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Hello BrainDead Fred. I'm sorry that you dislike facts or are simply uninformed. Nothing I said is false. If it is, post some sort of evidence to support your claim. I know facts aren't your strong suit, but go ahead, prove me wrong.

You should call these people. Oh wait, you don't live in America.


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You should call these people. Oh wait, you don't live in America.
Jeezus fuck you are clueless. It's a simple question Fred. can you disprove what I said or not?
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Gee, I wonder what he has to hide?
You people's dishonesty never ceases to amaze me..

Trump has had campaigns run against him by the entire machine, for breathing out of the wrong nostril.. and a host of other 100% fabricated ploys to "sink" him.

He's the democratically elected president that has a job to do.. But you retards want him sitting on the sidelines playing fetch with you all day.. Because you are sad little cry babies and what trump must do above all is seek your approval.. LOL.

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All political candidates should tell the electorate who and how they make their money. Anyone not willing to open their books, need not stand.

That would include Hillary, Bill, George, etc.

Why is it now under Trump it's become a big thing?
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He's a narcissist and if his returns showed him in a good light he would have released them on day 1. He has something to hide.
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So, my question would be, if all is in order for a legitimate tax return (something that congress is not looking for),
if it were found that he has many biz dealings with Russian and Ukraine folks, would you think less of him.

It certainly would explain many of his actions to say the least.

They will get a copy of those returns and discern them for just that. Using a 1920's law. SC will end up with the case.

But I think when the dust settles, exposing the tax returns for anyone running for POTUS should be a requirement at the time of filing. Like it is for everyone else in high office.
Nobody in federal elected positions should be exempt, but currently, POTUS is.
I don't want to go through this again. This much should change.

"Treasury secretary “shall furnish” tax returns upon request from the chairmen of Congress’s tax committees, provided that documents associated with a particular taxpayer are viewed in a closed session"
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Mark, that's because a valid birth certificate IS A REQUIREMENT. To this day no one has ever seen the original paper one. The PDF version that Obama posted on the White House website was proven by digital forensic experts to be a forgery. Also Obama's own lawyers ADMITTED in court that the certificate he provided was not genuine. By the way his grandmother says that she witnessed him being born in Kenya.

So no, it's not the same thing. Not at all.
So it matters more to be born the in the USA than it matters to not be an unethical piece of shit who cheats and swindles his way through life? And stop with the Kenya shit. You're a fucking moron.
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Old 04-07-2019, 08:10 AM   #42
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So the IRS has it ALL. Even is he's not being audited,, the IRS has everything. The IRS can file criminal charges when there is wrongdoing.

Has the IRS filed criminal charges?

NO?? Great, move on with life
This is a false statement. The IRS is only interested in tax fraud. The IRS does not investigate bank fraud or insurance fraud. For example, the IRS does not say "Gee, you received $200k from your insurance company due to hurricane damage" and then investigate the insurance claim or the actual damage. The IRS just cares that the taxes were paid.

We want to see his taxes to see if he has committed any kind of fraud.

Why wouldn't he release his tax forms? We originally thought that he wouldn't release his tax forms because they would look bad - Trump claims he made a huge amount of money, and it would look bad if he made hundreds of millions of dollars and paid no taxes or if he didn't make the kind of money he told he us made. Now it's become clear he has committed fraud over and over again. We know that he made a false insurance claim for hurricane damage that didn't happen, and he also took money from a 9/11 fund that he shouldn't have.

Trump is dirty from the ground up. He has always been.

This is never going to go away. Trump and his family will be hounded until the end of time.
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Old 04-07-2019, 08:27 AM   #43
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This is a false statement. The IRS is only interested in tax fraud. The IRS does not investigate bank fraud or insurance fraud. For example, the IRS does not say "Gee, you received $200k from your insurance company due to hurricane damage" and then investigate the insurance claim or the actual damage. The IRS just cares that the taxes were paid.

We want to see his taxes to see if he has committed any kind of fraud.

Why wouldn't he release his tax forms? We originally thought that he wouldn't release his tax forms because they would look bad - Trump claims he made a huge amount of money, and it would look bad if he made hundreds of millions of dollars and paid no taxes or if he didn't make the kind of money he told he us made. Now it's become clear he has committed fraud over and over again. We know that he made a false insurance claim for hurricane damage that didn't happen, and he also took money from a 9/11 fund that he shouldn't have.

Trump is dirty from the ground up. He has always been.

This is never going to go away. Trump and his family will be hounded until the end of time.
As if his personal tax returns are going to tell you any of that shit.

This issue has already blown up in your faces once... It will again.
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Old 04-07-2019, 02:35 PM   #44
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Would you suppose they are still auditing his returns of 2/3 years ago ?

I don't think so.

The current year would be on audit.

So what is the excuse for the previous 2 years outside of he just plain lied when he said he would release them.
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Would you suppose they are still auditing his returns of 2/3 years ago ?

I don't think so.

The current year would be on audit.

So what is the excuse for the previous 2 years outside of he just plain lied when he said he would release them.
He is making any excuse he can to not show them.

I would imagine this means they will either show he has significantly less money than he says he has, is paying very little in taxes, or he is up to his eyes in debt and may be in debt to some shady people.

Personally, I think it is one of the second two. If he is worth less, he could spin that and it's not that big of a deal. If he is in massive debt or paying very little or nothing in taxes is will make him look pretty bad and have people questioning his moves.
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Personally i wouldn't have an issue if he paid little or no tax, provided it was done within the confines of the tax laws as they stand as the time of submission. All good business men / accountants would do this to the best of there ability. I mean why pay more than you need to. I know in my businesses my accountants both in the UK and USA work very hard to legally minimize my tax burden.

The bigger issue would be where his money comes from where he borrows money from and his total assets compared to his assets declared on his insurance and loans. This is where he would have issues ?
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Tax returns are private.
The opposition party just wants them for political reasons to try and embarrass the President.

It's not a law by the way.
It's something that NO President in history ever did until Nixon did it as a political ploy in his campaign.

Ford did not show his ever.

So 7 Presidents in all of history have ever made their private tax returns public.

And somehow the media, Democrat politicians, and anti-Trumpers have convinced some of you that you have a right to see what is none of your business.

How about this: look at the economy, look at foreign policy, look at trade, and look at domestic policy.
If you like it...vote for Trump in 2020.
If you don't, then vote for whoever the Democrat is.

That is ALL that matters...the actual JOB that Trump is doing as President and how it impacts the lives of our citizens.
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Tax returns are private.
Yet every Presidential candidate during my lifetime has released their taxes.

What does he have to hide?
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Yet every Presidential candidate during my lifetime has released their taxes.

What does he have to hide?
No, they did not.

Were you born after Nixon was President? He was the first in YOUR lifetime. And his successor President Ford did NOT show his tax returns.
And President Reagan didn't want to make his public either. He was quite clear that he didn't think it was anyone's business.

He reluctantly released his under pressure from advisers, but always regretted it.

It's a PRIVATE thing.

It has zero bearing on the job a President does.

And it's purely political. Not sure what you can't "understand" (as usual) about that.

And it's none of our business what he has to "hide". It's irrelevant and none of your fucking business.

Furthermore...have ANY of you in the past EVER sat down and read the SEVEN President's tax returns in all of history who have ever released their tax returns to the public?

Of course not! Why would we? It's fucking boring numbers. Just try reading your own tax return without saying "Fuck this" and doing something (anything) else with your time.

WTF is wrong with you people? Are you this dense that you don't realize that Nixon (the first President EVER to do it) did it for political purposes in his campaign?

And it's been the same for all the other SIX who did it as well?

I don't give a fuck what Trump is "hiding". If it's illegal the IRS would have already convicted him.
Otherwise? It's none of your fucking business.
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Showing his tax returns would just generate more animosity, especially from the left.

It's the same reason I would never show mine and why I stopped posting my stats screenshots. Been there done that.
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