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Old 03-09-2019, 07:05 PM   #1
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Is there still life in the content licensing business model?

In 2019, do you think there is still any value is licensing nonexclusive content? Although we produce a lot in-house, I used to license a lot of content as well, but I'm seeing less available for license which would suit.

Are there fewer content producers licensing content today? Who are your favorites among those left standing?

As a photographer, I shoot, of course, for the sites in SpookyCash, but I've freelanced for print and commercial work since the 90's. I never did the web licensing thing myself, mostly because I had the impression that a lot of my models wanted to be on my sites or in print, but might have different reactions to being on some of the more generic membership sites which used to exist. Most of the really templated stuff with only shovelware seems to be gone now though. A tube can deliver the shovelware experience better and for less.

Is there still life in the content licensing business model for either producers or membership sites?
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Old 03-10-2019, 10:07 AM   #2
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My view..

Those who make content sell it themselves.
Those who used to buy, now mostly " buy" stolen stuff or endlessly recycle millions of clips sold by other thieves.

Very little room for a legitimate content maker and licensor. Just look around here. 3,000 videos for 200 bucks ( not one video ALL 3,000 !!!! ), how can you compete with that. But there is a way for a content producer to make money without having his own site. So be selective
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In 2019, do you think there is still any value is licensing nonexclusive content? Although we produce a lot in-house, I used to license a lot of content as well, but I'm seeing less available for license which would suit.

Are there fewer content producers licensing content today? Who are your favorites among those left standing?

As a photographer, I shoot, of course, for the sites in SpookyCash, but I've freelanced for print and commercial work since the 90's. I never did the web licensing thing myself, mostly because I had the impression that a lot of my models wanted to be on my sites or in print, but might have different reactions to being on some of the more generic membership sites which used to exist. Most of the really templated stuff with only shovelware seems to be gone now though. A tube can deliver the shovelware experience better and for less.

Is there still life in the content licensing business model for either producers or membership sites?

No. Dont waste your time
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3,000 videos for 200 bucks ( not one video ALL 3,000 !!!! ), how can you compete with that.
i had replied to Amelia in a different place, so i found it pointless to copy & paste my answer here

but yeah - thanks to a few people the content business at least for licensing is mostly ruined.

the other reason is paysites giving 10-20 min videos to tubes - so why should tubes buy content when they get fresh stuff for free.

so first tubes put smaller paysites (who used to license content) out of business - now the remaining paysites put content providers out of business.

and if people complain why there is nothing new to license - those above are the reasons.
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We are quite good with licensing. For many VR paysites SLR generates more sales than respective VR sites itself. We release $XXX,XXX to content producers on a monthly basis.
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We are quite good with licensing. For many VR paysites SLR generates more sales than respective VR sites itself. We release $XXX,XXX to content producers on a monthly basis.
You license SLR VR scenes? I will license VR from you if you do. PM me.

To OP, if you do still photography, I don't think there's any license market. I shoot a lot of video, and we do really well with our licensing to third parties. Like most things, you have to find the proper niches and business techniques. If you produce the right content, you can sell it. The trick (and challenge and expense) is figuring out what the "right" content is.
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You license SLR VR scenes? I will license VR from you if you do. PM me.
Vice versa.

SLR is an aggregator, we license content from producers.
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We are quite good with licensing. For many VR paysites SLR generates more sales than respective VR sites itself. We release $XXX,XXX to content producers on a monthly basis.
If someone was transitioning to VR what equipment would you recommend? What are people shooting good stuff on?
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The day affiliates demanded exclusive content, to get listed on TGP sites, the content licensing business took a hit. The excuse that members wanted exclusive content was bullshit, they didn't want sites that existed on old non-exclusive content that wasn't updated.

We were fortunate in that we had the magazine market to rely on. But if we only had the Internet and it's shit prices for exclusive and the time it took to make a decent margin on non-exclusive we would have lived a very different life style. Let's face it the online content market was never much of an earner.
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i had replied to Amelia in a different place, so i found it pointless to copy & paste my answer here

but yeah - thanks to a few people the content business at least for licensing is mostly ruined.

the other reason is paysites giving 10-20 min videos to tubes - so why should tubes buy content when they get fresh stuff for free.

so first tubes put smaller paysites (who used to license content) out of business - now the remaining paysites put content providers out of business.

and if people complain why there is nothing new to license - those above are the reasons.

We are agreeing in principle. I doubt that any legit producer would give to tubes 20 min clips unless they are suicidal. We do ourselves to all major tubes, but the clips ( rather excerpts from our movies) are 3 to 5 min each to a max of 3 excerpts from a 90 min. movie. We also DMCA all tubes which show ANY clips of ours longer then 9 minutes with an ID of our site. ALL clips which are not identified are DMCA'd.

We are what could be considered a small paysite ( VOD streaming ONLY our original content) and are doing OK with a good conversion rate, but you are correct, most of our stuff is illegally shared on various file sharing sites and albeit we try, it is quite difficult to police. We issue about 10 DMCAs per day. So, go figure, in the long term we are going to loose because these gangsters are protected by everybody, but mainly by VISA and MCH and most of them even by PP. It is like a cancer which eventually will eat also the tubes ( just look how many here are for sale) and eventually the file sharing sites as they will have nothing new to share. Then, the process will start again from the beginning.

I am sure that there are legit licensors, but most of them now are recycling the same stuff over and over and trading with others to create this legitimate Ponzi like scheme and very few ( for obvious reasons) are investing money into new content. In my view this is the single reason why everywhere you look you'll see the same stuff.

So as I have said to the OP, make it and sell it your self or make it and sell it to very selective group of paysite owners not to these mass agregators.
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I've posted this many times over the years and I'll post it again. There is money in licensing your content but it's to mainstream not to adult nowadays, particularly with quality content like AmeliG's.

Customers on Getty Images and a number of other well paying content licensing houses love hard-R rated versions of content to be used on stories, etc that are adult related or niche related. $300-$600 per image. Most producers like me take pics of the model fully dressed and in varying stages of undress so we have R & Hard-R content to license to mainstream.

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I bought this one: https://vuze.camera/camera/vuze-xr-camera/

It's surprisingly good and i can recommend it for someone who wants to try shooting VR - and the fact it does both 180 and 360 makes it twice as useful.

And it costs like $400
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I've posted this many times over the years and I'll post it again. There is money in licensing your content but it's to mainstream not to adult nowadays, particularly with quality content like AmeliG's.

Customers on Getty Images and a number of other well paying content licensing houses love hard-R rated versions of content to be used on stories, etc that are adult related or niche related. $300-$600 per image. Most producers like me take pics of the model fully dressed and in varying stages of undress so we have R & Hard-R content to license to mainstream.

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Wow. I have representation for celebrity stuff, like when I had the only professionally lit photos of Adam Lambert kissing his boyfriend.

Years ago, I used to go to some Getty parties (great swag!) and did some charity art gallery thing I think was theirs.

Never occurred to me that those sorts of agencies might have use for creative semi-nudes. Cool tip!
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Wow. I have representation for celebrity stuff, like when I had the only professionally lit photos of Adam Lambert kissing his boyfriend.

Years ago, I used to go to some Getty parties (great swag!) and did some charity art gallery thing I think was theirs.

Never occurred to me that those sorts of agencies might have use for creative semi-nudes. Cool tip!
Sweet! Glad you saw the post

There are also services that take submissions for R-rated contrnt that sell licenced stock footage clips for mainstream video production (like news, documentaries, etc )
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I bought this one: https://vuze.camera/camera/vuze-xr-camera/

It's surprisingly good and i can recommend it for someone who wants to try shooting VR - and the fact it does both 180 and 360 makes it twice as useful.

And it costs like $400
Thanks very much I will look at these
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I've posted this many times over the years and I'll post it again. There is money in licensing your content but it's to mainstream not to adult nowadays, particularly with quality content like AmeliG's.

Customers on Getty Images and a number of other well paying content licensing houses love hard-R rated versions of content to be used on stories, etc that are adult related or niche related. $300-$600 per image. Most producers like me take pics of the model fully dressed and in varying stages of undress so we have R & Hard-R content to license to mainstream.

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Do you have any clue about the content industry?

The cost of equipment, models, locations, etc. Then all the normal expenses of running a business. To justify that and get a decent living you have to sell at $3,000-$6,000 per set. Selling an image for $300-$600 is a nice sideline, add on, bonus but not enough to fund a real photography organisation.

We sold sets for $3,000-$6,000 to magazines, then sold online for another $1,000. Without it people don't have studios, staff, and basically operating a one man band. The level of people in the online content game before magazines folded tells you where the real money was.

TBH if we didn't have such a great income from magazines we to would have gone hell for leather into the paysite market.
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Sweet! Glad you saw the post

There are also services that take submissions for R-rated contrnt that sell licenced stock footage clips for mainstream video production (like news, documentaries, etc )
Let me explain something to you. People taking images and videos and trying to sell them isn't proof of any income.

One needs a solid base for a business not airy fairy ideas. The absolute minimum would be $600 per single girl set, shooting 10 sets a week. This gives a turnover of $312,000 per year. Not a brilliant income once expense are taken out, but okay. Otherwise one is running a one man band, from home and living hand to mouth.

Many of the images in the link you posted were the same as shot 30 to 40 years ago by Gordon Rondelle in the UK. He needed the permission of the venue, models and exclusivity to sell them the way you described. His main income was selling direct to magazines and then giving them to agencies for a little bit extra.

Stick to telling us about what you know.
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Let me explain something to you. People taking images and videos and trying to sell them isn't proof of any income.

One needs a solid base for a business not airy fairy ideas. The absolute minimum would be $600 per single girl set, shooting 10 sets a week. This gives a turnover of $312,000 per year. Not a brilliant income once expense are taken out, but okay. Otherwise one is running a one man band, from home and living hand to mouth.

Many of the images in the link you posted were the same as shot 30 to 40 years ago by Gordon Rondelle in the UK. He needed the permission of the venue, models and exclusivity to sell them the way you described. His main income was selling direct to magazines and then giving them to agencies for a little bit extra.

Stick to telling us about what you know.
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Do you have any clue about the content industry?

The cost of equipment, models, locations, etc. Then all the normal expenses of running a business. To justify that and get a decent living you have to sell at $3,000-$6,000 per set. Selling an image for $300-$600 is a nice sideline, add on, bonus but not enough to fund a real photography organisation.

We sold sets for $3,000-$6,000 to magazines, then sold online for another $1,000. Without it people don't have studios, staff, and basically operating a one man band. The level of people in the online content game before magazines folded tells you where the real money was.

TBH if we didn't have such a great income from magazines we to would have gone hell for leather into the paysite market.
Ah here we go again, Paul telling people making money that it's impossible, they don't know what they're talking about and their experience is invalid.

Yeah I've been a content producer for 20 years Paul. You know that, or you used to. I honestly think you have dementia setting in. People have to keep reminding you of things you were told a week or two before. You've known I produce content for at least 15 years now. We talked on the phone when I lived in Australia. You told me the first time a guy sucked your dick is when you were in an orgy eating pussy and you didn't realize until you looked down that it was a guy. Do you remember me now? Does that jog your memory? That was back in the day when you are a nice guy and someone people could look up to.

Also if you read my post you'd see I also mention selling "adult" related stock video to mainstream. I'm not giving away all my secrets but I do respect Amelia G and have always loved her unique quality work & intellect.
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Ah here we go again, Paul telling people making money that it's impossible, they don't know what they're talking about and their experience is invalid.

Yeah I've been a content producer for 20 years Paul. You know that, or you used to. I honestly think you have dementia setting in. People have to keep reminding you of things you were told a week or two before. You've known I produce content for at least 15 years now. We talked on the phone when I lived in Australia. You told me the first time a guy sucked your dick is when you were in an orgy eating pussy and you didn't realize until you looked down that it was a guy. Do you remember me now? Does that jog your memory? That was back in the day when you are a nice guy and someone people could look up to.

Also if you read my post you'd see I also mention selling "adult" related stock video to mainstream. I'm not giving away all my secrets but I do respect Amelia G and have always loved her unique quality work & intellect.
The question was about today and IMO the earnings are very small. The chances of anyone making 6 figures in the porn content market today are non-existent.

I've told that orgy story to so many and posted it here, you could be one of 1,000s.
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The question was about today and IMO the earnings are very small. The chances of anyone making 6 figures in the porn content market today are non-existent.

I've told that orgy story to so many and posted it here, you could be one of 1,000s.

How are you defining the content market?
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I've posted this many times over the years and I'll post it again. There is money in licensing your content but it's to mainstream not to adult nowadays, particularly with quality content like AmeliG's.

Customers on Getty Images and a number of other well paying content licensing houses love hard-R rated versions of content to be used on stories, etc that are adult related or niche related. $300-$600 per image. Most producers like me take pics of the model fully dressed and in varying stages of undress so we have R & Hard-R content to license to mainstream.

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Selling videos and images that you create or have the license to sell to publishers.

For the majority there's no money to be made in selling to end users any more. If there was this board would be booming with business posts. As it was in 2000 to 2008.
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For the majority there's no money to be made in selling to end users any more. If there was this board would be booming with business posts. As it was in 2000 to 2008.
There's your failed logic again.

GFY was never a content producer based board.

GFY was predominantly an affiliate board. In the beginning it was so easy to be an affiliate anyone could do it by throwing up a web page on Google, get top ranking, make a lot of money. The reason the affiliate market failed, aside from tubes, is that it's more difficult for them to get ranking on Google and to make money. In order to be a successful affiliate nowadays you have to have a lot more properties be an SEO & social media expert, at a bare minimum you need to be very proficient.

The amount of activity on GFY has nothing to do with content producers, it's all about the failed affiliate segment of our industry.
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There's your failed logic again.

GFY was never a content producer based board.

GFY was predominantly an affiliate board. In the beginning it was so easy to be an affiliate anyone could do it by throwing up a web page on Google, get top ranking, make a lot of money. The reason the affiliate market failed, aside from tubes, is that it's more difficult for them to get ranking on Google and to make money. In order to be a successful affiliate nowadays you have to have a lot more properties be an SEO & social media expert, at a bare minimum you need to be very proficient.

The amount of activity on GFY has nothing to do with content producers, it's all about the failed affiliate segment of our industry.
Where did I claim it was anything but an affiliate board?

If there were more end users, there would be more business for everyone. But I guess I will have to make it plain for the dumber types here.

There was never a time when anyone could do it by throwing up a web page on Google. Because by that statement it would mean 1,000s were throwing up a web page on Google and getting top ranking on Google. The best traffic came from TGP sites, in fact so much traffic that unless you had a good TGP page, good content and listed you ended up losing money of BW charges. While other sites could afford to pay for adverts and top listings. Maybe that was your problem, lousy content.
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Looks like the content biz its more like a still-life . . .
The cost of producing content for resale is often greater than the amount it sells for. Selling a solo girl set and video once for $600 or multiple times for $600, or Lesbian or BG for a $1,200 or $2,000 won't give anyone a great income. Unless they work 5/6 days week.

Of course it does depend on what someone calls a great income.
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