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Old 01-20-2019, 03:46 PM   #101
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The kids also attempted to do the Maori haka.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americ...o-did-the-haka

That one they better sort out, Indians never ate their enemy ;)

Seems more like they are just culturally misinformed and for that I'd blame the school more than the kids.
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The kids also attempted to do the Maori haka.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americ...o-did-the-haka

That one they better sort out, Indians never ate their enemy ;)

Seems more like they are just culturally misinformed and for that I'd blame the school more than the kids.
That's misinformation in that article

They are from an all boys ultra religious anti brown people private school in Kentucky, the sticks.

They couldn't locate new Zealand on a map let alone know what the Haka is.

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sounds like a lot of REEEEEEEEE in here
but no acceptance of the facts
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Old 01-20-2019, 08:46 PM   #105
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This should make you cultists proud...



Couple things here,

White teen here thinks he's so AMERICAN and WHITE, and the Native American dude thinks he's so Native. But both have each others peoples Jizz flowing through there veins.

Whites mixed with Natives and Natives mixed with Whites.

It's History so let's not pretend it didn't happen.
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This should make you cultists proud...

So... an indian guy walks up to a kid and starts banging on a drum and singing right in his face... he just smiles and somehow, in your deranged mind, he's doing something wrong?

Orange Man Bad!

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I am sorry, but ignoring the part of the video you did not post, what exactly did that kid do wrong?
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Libbies doxxed the wrong family...
https://twitter.com/PikePlaceTechie/...17202749378560

Barnes Law pro-bono handling legal and is collecting names and already managed to take down a number of articles and tweets. The school is considering suing media outlets for defamation.
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EXCLUSIVE: Native Man Who Harassed Catholic Teens Linked To Big Money Left-Wing Activism

"The Native Youth Alliance appears to be a standalone entity. However, the larger well-funded Native Youth Leadership Alliance — which told us that it is not associated with Phillips — is currently promoting Phillips’ fundraising campaign stemming from the incident with the Catholic teens.

The Native Youth Leadership Alliance (NYLA) is a non-profit organization that is funded by the same far-left power players who are often involved in bankrolling leftist causes. The organization’s funding partners include the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, and the Social Justice Fund Northwest.

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/exclus...wing-activism/
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Looking like Nathan Poser wasn't a veteran either..
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Sorry lefties, but in this case, the righties are right. Mostly.

If you watch the original short video, it looks like the kid is mocking Nathan Phillips. This isn't the whole story.

Phillips walked up to the kids. He was from one protest while the kids are from another.

However, "The Media", or at least the Left Media, did not get this wrong.

In this video from MSNBC:
https://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/n...-1429118531532 reporter Joy Reid interviews the Elder, and during the interview, tells him that she saw a different video from a different angle showing him approaching the teen. MSNBC reported this correctly.

And CNN at https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/19/us/te...rnd/index.html they too reported the entire event, not just that clip.

CNN on this page https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2019/0...pkg-nr-vpx.cnn it says "Viral Video sparkts outrage... but as with any viral video, there is more to the story than what you see".

So then: Was this an ugly situation? Yes. Are the righties in this thread right? Yes. Are the lefties right? no. Is the media right? Only the ones that showed multiple videos and or told the whole story, yes.

Because: Context.
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Sorry lefties, but in this case, the righties are right. Mostly.

If you watch the original short video, it looks like the kid is mocking Nathan Phillips. This isn't the whole story.

Phillips walked up to the kids. He was from one protest while the kids are from another.

However, "The Media", or at least the Left Media, did not get this wrong.

In this video from MSNBC:
https://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/n...-1429118531532 the reporter interviews the Elder, and during the interview, tells him that she saw a different video from a different angle showing him approaching the teen. MSNBC reported this correctly.

And CNN at https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/19/us/te...rnd/index.html they too reported the entire event, not just that clip.

CNN on this page https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2019/0...pkg-nr-vpx.cnn it says "Viral Video sparkts outrage... but as with any viral video, there is more to the story than what you see".

So then: Was this an ugly situation? Yes. Are the righties in this thread right? Yes. Are the lefties right? no. Is the media right? Only the ones that showed multiple videos and or told the whole story, yes.

Because: Context.
They're just now getting around to reporting it right because there's a lawyer after them..
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They're just now getting around to reporting it right because there's a lawyer after them..
That's right.

Check out Vox:

https://www.vox.com/2019/1/19/181896...-native-elders

Scroll down to the part that says "We now know more about the events leading up to when the cameras starting rolling". Vox is clearly updating its story.

There's alot wrong with this still. On the same Vox page, they have a line that reads "More video shows Phillips wiping away tears after the incident.". Um... I'm inclined to call bullshit on this. In the interview he's not crying, he's cold. He's sniffling and he's wiping his right eye only. Wouldn't both eyes be tearful if he was crying?

And going back to the MSNBC interview again, Phillips didn't volunteer the fact that he approached the kids until reporter Joy Reid told him she saw him do it in other videos.

Tonight I will be a rightie. I could say, maybe-ish, that Phillips caused the problem, wasn't forthcoming about it until asked, and at least Vox jumped the gun and really misreported the event without digging.
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That's right.

Check out Vox:

https://www.vox.com/2019/1/19/181896...-native-elders

Scroll down to the part that says "We now know more about the events leading up to when the cameras starting rolling". Vox is clearly updating its story.

There's alot wrong with this still. On the same Vox page, they have a line that reads "More video shows Phillips wiping away tears after the incident.". Um... I'm inclined to call bullshit on this. In the interview he's not crying, he's cold. He's sniffling and he's wiping his right eye only. Wouldn't both eyes be tearful if he was crying?

And going back to the MSNBC interview again, Phillips didn't volunteer the fact that he approached the kids until reporter Joy Reid told him she saw him do it in other videos.

Tonight I will be a rightie. I could say, maybe-ish, that Phillips caused the problem, wasn't forthcoming about it until asked, and at least Vox jumped the gun and really misreported the event without digging.
Mark this is a constant thing with the leftwing media. They lie constantly and they are really only trying to divide us all. Every time they push this shit you'd think whites are out attacking everyone not white. It's ridiculous. I guess it's just gotten to a point now where they have messed up so badly that you guys can't ignore it anymore.
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You got one thing wrong in your description Mark...and you also missed the people who started the trouble in the first place.

I was watching CNN and they actually got the whole thing right and showed a lot of different footage.

1. The kids weren't "protestors" at all. They were a Catholic school on a field trip with teacher/chaperones.

2. They were being harrassed by a group of black men who are "Black Hebrew Israelites".
The black men started cursing at the kids for wearing their MAGA hats and there is video I saw on CNN showing the black men yelling at these kids...at one point telling them that they were all a bunch of "incest babies"

3. The kids asked their teacher what to do. The teacher told them to chant their school spirit mantra. Which they did to try and drown out the black guys obscenities towards them.

4. THEN, the old Indian guy takes it upon himself to walk right up into the face of that one kid and beat on his stupid drum and scream in his face.

5. The kid...who was getting death threats after the leftist's put up that video and tried to demonize him, told CNN that he decided to do nothing when the old Indian got in his face but just smile and stand still.

This is the kind of shit that makes me want to go out and get myself one of those MAGA hats. I'd love to see somebody fuck with me over it. I guarantee you it wouldn't end well for them.

All of this bullying and demonizing has got to stop.
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I said from the beginning "I wonder what the whole story is"

However, y'all righties not about to use this as your golden ticket. Y'all do the same dumb shit. Righty media is the same damn way.

Leftards and rightards have went full retard.
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And the black Hebrew isrealites are vile. Another example of Bible thumping lunatics in America (yes, they quote the Bible).
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That's right.

Check out Vox:

https://www.vox.com/2019/1/19/181896...-native-elders

Scroll down to the part that says "We now know more about the events leading up to when the cameras starting rolling". Vox is clearly updating its story.

There's alot wrong with this still. On the same Vox page, they have a line that reads "More video shows Phillips wiping away tears after the incident.". Um... I'm inclined to call bullshit on this. In the interview he's not crying, he's cold. He's sniffling and he's wiping his right eye only. Wouldn't both eyes be tearful if he was crying?

And going back to the MSNBC interview again, Phillips didn't volunteer the fact that he approached the kids until reporter Joy Reid told him she saw him do it in other videos.

Tonight I will be a rightie. I could say, maybe-ish, that Phillips caused the problem, wasn't forthcoming about it until asked, and at least Vox jumped the gun and really misreported the event without digging.
It should also be noted they are ENTIRELY ignoring this incident

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...74794081763328
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You got one thing wrong in your description Mark...and you also missed the people who started the trouble in the first place.

I was watching CNN and they actually got the whole thing right and showed a lot of different footage.

1. The kids weren't "protestors" at all. They were a Catholic school on a field trip with teacher/chaperones.

2. They were being harrassed by a group of black men who are "Black Hebrew Israelites".
The black men started cursing at the kids for wearing their MAGA hats and there is video I saw on CNN showing the black men yelling at these kids...at one point telling them that they were all a bunch of "incest babies"

3. The kids asked their teacher what to do. The teacher told them to chant their school spirit mantra. Which they did to try and drown out the black guys obscenities towards them.

4. THEN, the old Indian guy takes it upon himself to walk right up into the face of that one kid and beat on his stupid drum and scream in his face.

5. The kid...who was getting death threats after the leftist's put up that video and tried to demonize him, told CNN that he decided to do nothing when the old Indian got in his face but just smile and stand still.

This is the kind of shit that makes me want to go out and get myself one of those MAGA hats. I'd love to see somebody fuck with me over it. I guarantee you it wouldn't end well for them.

All of this bullying and demonizing has got to stop.
Trump doesn't even have to do much campaigning thanks to the liberal leftwing media. They are driving anyone on the fence right into Trump's lap. All the hate, lies and division is starting to catch up to them.
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So a bunch of racists ganged up on some white kids on a school field trip...

And the Libtards side with the racists, because they were told to by the media.

Seems like business as usual.
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That's right.

Check out Vox:

https://www.vox.com/2019/1/19/181896...-native-elders

Scroll down to the part that says "We now know more about the events leading up to when the cameras starting rolling". Vox is clearly updating its story.

There's alot wrong with this still. On the same Vox page, they have a line that reads "More video shows Phillips wiping away tears after the incident.". Um... I'm inclined to call bullshit on this. In the interview he's not crying, he's cold. He's sniffling and he's wiping his right eye only. Wouldn't both eyes be tearful if he was crying?

And going back to the MSNBC interview again, Phillips didn't volunteer the fact that he approached the kids until reporter Joy Reid told him she saw him do it in other videos.

Tonight I will be a rightie. I could say, maybe-ish, that Phillips caused the problem, wasn't forthcoming about it until asked, and at least Vox jumped the gun and really misreported the event without digging.
You had so called journalists calling for violence against the kid. You guys have lost the script.
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Mark this is a constant thing with the leftwing media. They lie constantly and they are really only trying to divide us all. Every time they push this shit you'd think whites are out attacking everyone not white. It's ridiculous. I guess it's just gotten to a point now where they have messed up so badly that you guys can't ignore it anymore.
It's important not to lump everyone into "leftwing media". For sure Vox, CNN and MSNBC are left leaning, but only Vox of these 3 didn't dive deep enough to tell the whole story.

Another example is Fox News. Fox news has Fox and Friends which are about is weak-right as they come, but others like Shep Smith seem to call out bullshit, at least once in a while. If I as a lefty can see and acknowledge it, you should try to do the same for lefty news.

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You got one thing wrong in your description Mark...and you also missed the people who started the trouble in the first place.
You're right, but I was commenting mostly on the reporting by CNN, MSNBC and VOX and not really about who was protesting what. Thanks for clarifying though.

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Trump doesn't even have to do much campaigning thanks to the liberal leftwing media. They are driving anyone on the fence right into Trump's lap. All the hate, lies and division is starting to catch up to them.
I disagree. It's really, really hard to change peoples opinion of Trump. Look at GFY. Has anyone moved towards or away from Trump in the past 2 years? I don't think so.


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You had so called journalists calling for violence against the kid. You guys have lost the script.

Where in the article I linked to does it call for violence against the kid? Or anyone else? And why do you say "you guys"? If Rush Limbaugh called for violence I certainly wouldn't assume you or other righties here want violence too.
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This shit petty af, both sides trying to use this as a serious situation.

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Sorry lefties, but in this case, the righties are right. Mostly.

If you watch the original short video, it looks like the kid is mocking Nathan Phillips. This isn't the whole story.

Phillips walked up to the kids. He was from one protest while the kids are from another.

However, "The Media", or at least the Left Media, did not get this wrong.

In this video from MSNBC:
https://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/n...-1429118531532 reporter Joy Reid interviews the Elder, and during the interview, tells him that she saw a different video from a different angle showing him approaching the teen. MSNBC reported this correctly.

And CNN at https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/19/us/te...rnd/index.html they too reported the entire event, not just that clip.

CNN on this page https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2019/0...pkg-nr-vpx.cnn it says "Viral Video sparkts outrage... but as with any viral video, there is more to the story than what you see".

So then: Was this an ugly situation? Yes. Are the righties in this thread right? Yes. Are the lefties right? no. Is the media right? Only the ones that showed multiple videos and or told the whole story, yes.

Because: Context.
Ok so the Indian guy was marching, because that's what they're there to do at the "indigenous peoples March" and the Trump kid stood in his path so he couldn't continue marching?
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Ok so the Indian guy was marching, because that what they're there to do at the "indigenous peoples March" and the Trump kid stood in his path so he couldn't continue marching?
Doubling down on stupid huh? I love it. You just keep losing and losing every week while Trump keeps winning 😂
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It's fascinating how Trump cultists can see, from multiple angles, the shouting from the redhats, and the confrontation with the smerkung kid, staring the Indian guy down and they try to say the truth isn't the truth in that moment of time.

Trump cultists want to normalise hate, intimidation & discrimination.

Native American says MAGA teens were harassing tribal elder with tomahawk chops and war whoops

“It doesn’t matter how people spin it,” he said. “Our elder felt threatened there.”
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Mark, You can't ignore what the left is doing anymore.

I saw this posted earlier, and after reading your post, I could see you becoming this guy.

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Hello everyone. My name is ... well my name isn’t important. What I’ve decided is.

I admit it. I was a Democrat. I voted for Barack Obama. Twice. I hated Trump. And voted libertarian in 2016. But over the last year or so, as I’ve watched the nation completely lose its way and with it all sense of decorum, civility, and compromise, I’ve witnessed a president who refuses to give up on campaign promises.

This is a man who will not be cowed and pushed. He will not give in when an issue is important. He truly is an outsider and will not succumb and be absorbed by the political establishment. His republican colleagues did all they could to hinder his election. They hated him and feared him. Now they fall in line like the good little spineless politicians they are. Trump doesn’t hate them because the opposite of love isn’t hate - it’s indifference. And that’s how Trump is to those who don’t matter (and there are a bunch of people who do not matter - no real unique and special snowflakes exist). These establishment types are simply soldiers to the president. And soldiers are nothing but a great leader’s tool.

I may not agree with him always. But I don’t doubt him any more. Not after what I’ve seen. Not after what I’ve experienced.

The other side doesn’t want equality. They want totality. I saw signs of this in the 90s but I fell in line like a good little Democrat. When they came for the family life, I didn’t say anything because I did not realize the severity of what would happen to the next generations.

When they came for free speech, I didn’t say anything because I was too busy rolling my eyes at the notion of Barry being anything but a good guy who plays basketball and loves his kids.

When they came for everyone’s backbone and replaced it with trigger warnings and safe spaces (phrases I shudder to know have now forever entered our lexicon) I didn’t say anything because I was fooled into believing these were isolated incidents and there was no way the silliness could spread so far, wide and deeply ingrained into the soul of so many.

But then one day, not all of the sudden because the eyes were slowly being opened to the ways of the modern left without me even knowing, I finally asked myself “do you see?”

Do you see what they think of men with their #metoo and seething calls of “toxic masculinity” with their witch hunts and razor commercials?

Do you see what they think of capitalism and their hatred for the hundreds of thousands who fought and died to make America the light of hope for millions around the world?

Do you see what they they think of self-reliance and ingenuity as they serves as pimps and drug dealers to over half the population? Getting them hooked and dependent on the government and unable - unwilling - to care for themselves.

Do you see what they think of the symbols that used to define us and unite us? They celebrate kneeling during our songs, burning our flag, and tearing down the reminders of our history - both for good and for ill - as did the Nazis before them and the Huns of old.

Do you see how they make the people hate the very ideals of the nation that gave them the power to do all these things?

Do you see how they divide the races and try to make us even more at odds with one another than we were during those sad days during the Civil Rights Movement despite all of the roadblocks that have been torn down? They tell the ones who are dependent on them that White people are all evil, that white men are satan. They make an strawman enemy to last a lifetime.

Do you see what they think of the constitution and the bill of rights? They love all of them. Except the second. And now the first. Say what you think, they tell you. But whisper, “so long as it is the same as us.”

Do you see?

Because I do.

And when they finally came for an innocent kid from Kentucky, one who was likely on the trip of a lifetime from his small town and now could have a lifetime of ridicule over “fake news”, I decided I was not going to stay silent any longer. I was going to say something.

What they are doing to that young man is wrong. It’s depraved. The creators, purveyors, and perpetuators do not just deserve punishment in this life but also in the next. Too harsh? No. For they are so blinded by hate they cannot see what they have done to this nation.

Truly we have become Rome. We are crumbling. We are dying. Can we rebuild? Can we overcome the forces of muck and grime and swamp that have slowly and quietly eaten away at our foundations? For decades these vile beings came quietly on the backs of calls of “change”. That change came alright but once the Pandora’s box was open all kinds of perversions spewed forth. The dam broke. The nation was flooded.

Can we rebuild? Can we resow?

I do not know. But I am silent no longer. Not when they came for that boy from Kentucky. And not when they come for anyone else going forward.

Congratulations to the modern left. You lost another one. I imagine there will be many, many more 18 months from.

Edited: thank you all so much for the kind words. I just needed to get my thoughts out there for myself. While I have gotten tons of support, I’ve also gotten a bunch of horrible personal messages. I just don’t understand the hate.
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It's really, really hard to change peoples opinion of Trump. Look at GFY. Has anyone moved towards or away from Trump in the past 2 years? I don't think so.
You are 100% correct. I've been saying this for a while.

Back in 2016 during the campaign, it was already getting out of hand here (and everywhere).

But now in 2019? It's no longer a debate or a discussion. It's just outright hatred and vitriol.

NONE of these "Trump" threads are going to do anything useful. All it does is get people pissed off and fighting with each other.

You know...back in 2000 when Eric first reached out to me and Al about joining GFY (I still didn't until 2002), it was presented to me as a place for the INDUSTRY to discuss things.
And it was. Yeah, a lot of ballbusting went on...but you still had a lot of business to conduct.

And we all made money off of contacts from right here on GFY.

These "Trump" threads are the OPPOSITE of that. They actually cause people to NOT do business with other people because of personal insults being thrown.

And even though you didn't start this thread Mark, I have said to you over and over...don't post the stuff that you DO post on Trump here.
It's not conducive to anything except people getting angry.
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You are 100% correct. I've been saying this for a while.

Back in 2016 during the campaign, it was already getting out of hand here (and everywhere).

But now in 2019? It's no longer a debate or a discussion. It's just outright hatred and vitriol.

NONE of these "Trump" threads are going to do anything useful. All it does is get people pissed off and fighting with each other.

You know...back in 2000 when Eric first reached out to me and Al about joining GFY (I still didn't until 2002), it was presented to me as a place for the INDUSTRY to discuss things.
And it was. Yeah, a lot of ballbusting went on...but you still had a lot of business to conduct.

And we all made money off of contacts from right here on GFY.

These "Trump" threads are the OPPOSITE of that. They actually cause people to NOT do business with other people because of personal insults being thrown.

And even though you didn't start this thread Mark, I have said to you over and over...don't post the stuff that you DO post on Trump here.
It's not conducive to anything except people getting angry.
The ONLY threads you post in... are political threads

You NEVER give anyone industry advice here.

You are very good at complaining and playing the victim and you're very good at doing nothing to help any other industry people here.
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Mark, You can't ignore what the left is doing anymore.
OnHungLo, you can't blame everyone for the mistakes of one. If you do, that makes you prejudice.


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I saw this posted earlier, and after reading your post, I could see you becoming this guy.
Nope. You're wrong about me. You should know that by now.
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You got one thing wrong in your description Mark...and you also missed the people who started the trouble in the first place.

I was watching CNN and they actually got the whole thing right and showed a lot of different footage.

1. The kids weren't "protestors" at all. They were a Catholic school on a field trip with teacher/chaperones.

2. They were being harrassed by a group of black men who are "Black Hebrew Israelites".
The black men started cursing at the kids for wearing their MAGA hats and there is video I saw on CNN showing the black men yelling at these kids...at one point telling them that they were all a bunch of "incest babies"

3. The kids asked their teacher what to do. The teacher told them to chant their school spirit mantra. Which they did to try and drown out the black guys obscenities towards them.

4. THEN, the old Indian guy takes it upon himself to walk right up into the face of that one kid and beat on his stupid drum and scream in his face.

5. The kid...who was getting death threats after the leftist's put up that video and tried to demonize him, told CNN that he decided to do nothing when the old Indian got in his face but just smile and stand still.

This is the kind of shit that makes me want to go out and get myself one of those MAGA hats. I'd love to see somebody fuck with me over it. I guarantee you it wouldn't end well for them.

All of this bullying and demonizing has got to stop.


Interesting how you just twisted the entire situation to fit your MAGA narrative. One Native American vs how many teenagers yelling and screaming and the one Native American is the aggressor. Pretty obvious by the mocking smile on his face he made a choice not move and stare down the one Indian for over 10 minutes with dozens of his friends at his back. Yea the one Indian was aggressor, what a warped brain you have.

"We condemn the actions of the Covington Catholic High School students towards Nathan Phillips specifically, and Native Americans in general ... We extend our deepest apologies to Mr. Phillips. This behavior is opposed to the Church’s teachings on the dignity and respect of the human person."

Looks like their own school did not think their behavior was acceptable, but the mouth breathing cultists on GFY see nothing wrong.
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Interesting how you just twisted the entire situation to fit your MAGA narrative. One Native American vs how many teenagers yelling and screaming and the one Native American is the aggressor. Pretty obvious by the mocking smile on his face he made a choice not move and stare down the one Indian for over 10 minutes with dozens of his friends at his back. Yea the one Indian was aggressor, what a warped brain you have.
FRED- For fucks sake this is so dumb I won't even insult you at all. Robbie's breakdown is exactly what happened- the UNBIASED facts. Yes the kids were being harassed by the homophobic, racist black cult guys. That's why they started doing school chants. Then yes, drummer guy was the aggressor by walking OVER TO THEM and beating his drum 6 inches from the kid's face. The kids were confused and tried to join in singing with the guy. There was no harassment from the teens. All on video. Just stop. Quit demonizing church-going teens just because they had MAGA hats. That's what the fake news is doing. Please don't fall for it.


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"We condemn the actions of the Covington Catholic High School students towards Nathan Phillips specifically, and Native Americans in general ... We extend our deepest apologies to Mr. Phillips. This behavior is opposed to the Church’s teachings on the dignity and respect of the human person."

Looks like their own school did not think their behavior was acceptable, but the mouth breathing cultists on GFY see nothing wrong.
This was BEFORE they did any investigating whatsoever.

The Media Wildly Mischaracterized That Video of Covington Catholic Students Confronting a Native American Veteran

This constant fake news is really getting to be a huge problem.
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This constant fake news is really getting to be a huge problem.


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FRED- For fucks sake this is so dumb I won't even insult you at all. Robbie's breakdown is exactly what happened- the UNBIASED facts. Yes the kids were being harassed by the homophobic, racist black cult guys. That's why they started doing school chants. Then yes, drummer guy was the aggressor by walking OVER TO THEM and beating his drum 6 inches from the kid's face. The kids were confused and tried to join in singing with the guy. There was no harassment from the teens. All on video. Just stop. Quit demonizing church-going teens just because they had MAGA hats. That's what the fake news is doing. Please don't fall for it.
Why didn't the indian get in the face of the homophobic black israelite? Why were they chanting whitey go back to Europe?
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Looks like their own school did not think their behavior was acceptable, but the mouth breathing cultists on GFY see nothing wrong.
Exactly lol
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Interesting how you just twisted the entire situation to fit your MAGA narrative. One Native American vs how many teenagers yelling and screaming and the one Native American is the aggressor. Pretty obvious by the mocking smile on his face he made a choice not move and stare down the one Indian for over 10 minutes with dozens of his friends at his back. Yea the one Indian was aggressor, what a warped brain you have.

"We condemn the actions of the Covington Catholic High School students towards Nathan Phillips specifically, and Native Americans in general ... We extend our deepest apologies to Mr. Phillips. This behavior is opposed to the Church’s teachings on the dignity and respect of the human person."

Looks like their own school did not think their behavior was acceptable, but the mouth breathing cultists on GFY see nothing wrong.

I was going to say that I'm "on the fence" about this... but I'm not sure that I am.

Let's break it down a little.

The kids were there for a field trip. Fine.
They wore Maga hats. Fine (ugh, but fine).
They were taunted by some black kids. Bad.
Phillips came over and beat his drum right in the kids face. Bad.
The kid just smiled and took it. Good and Bad (* will explain in a sec)
The video only showed 1 part. Bad.
People, especially lefties, took that 1 video and went nuts over it. Bad
If the kid smirked and taunted Phillips, which I think he did, Bad.
If the kid smiled and prevented things from getting worse, good.
CNN and MSNBC reported it correctly. Good.
Vox reported it badly. Bad.
Vox corrected it, and left their original misreporting in place. Good.

Lefties on GFY and outside freaked out based on the original video. Bad, but understandable.
Some lefties acknowledged this mistake. Good.
Some waited until they got the whole picture. Good.

So now: I would say that this kind of thing happening in left-leaning media is rare, but I could be wrong because I am bias towards the left.

Righties could say that Fox News and the like don't make these kinds of mistakes, on purpose or otherwise, because they are bias towards the right.

This should serve as a lesson, to both sides, that there is always more to the story. There are details hidden in details. One little mistake or omission can cause the world to freak out. Let's get the details, and maybe we can wiggle our way out of this mess. #**********2020
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I was going to say that I'm "on the fence" about this... but I'm not sure that I am.

Let's break it down a little.

The kids were there for a field trip. Fine.
They wore Maga hats. Fine (ugh, but fine).
They were taunted by some black kids. Bad.
Phillips came over and beat his drum right in the kids face. Bad.
The kid just smiled and took it. Good and Bad (* will explain in a sec)
The video only showed 1 part. Bad.
People, especially lefties, took that 1 video and went nuts over it. Bad
If the kid smirked and taunted Phillips, which I think he did, Bad.
If the kid smiled and prevented things from getting worse, good.
CNN and MSNBC reported it correctly. Good.
Vox reported it badly. Bad.
Vox corrected it, and left their original misreporting in place. Good.

Lefties on GFY and outside freaked out based on the original video. Bad, but understandable.
Some lefties acknowledged this mistake. Good.
Some waited until they got the whole picture. Good.

So now: I would say that this kind of thing happening in left-leaning media is rare, but I could be wrong because I am bias towards the left.

Righties could say that Fox News and the like don't make these kinds of mistakes, on purpose or otherwise, because they are bias towards the right.

This should serve as a lesson, to both sides, that there is always more to the story. There are details hidden in details. One little mistake or omission can cause the world to freak out. Let's get the details, and maybe we can wiggle our way out of this mess. #**********2020
The kid was staring down the Indian protesters

The MAGA kids behind him were yelling and taunting them

They weren't out dancing and smiling and having fun.

It was adversarial.

"The truth isn't the truth" alt-right hate Jedi mind tricks
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I was going to say that I'm "on the fence" about this... but I'm not sure that I am.

Let's break it down a little.

The kids were there for a field trip. Fine.
They wore Maga hats. Fine (ugh, but fine).
They were taunted by some black kids. Bad.
Phillips came over and beat his drum right in the kids face. Bad.
The kid just smiled and took it. Good and Bad (* will explain in a sec)
The video only showed 1 part. Bad.
People, especially lefties, took that 1 video and went nuts over it. Bad
If the kid smirked and taunted Phillips, which I think he did, Bad.
If the kid smiled and prevented things from getting worse, good.
CNN and MSNBC reported it correctly. Good.
Vox reported it badly. Bad.
Vox corrected it, and left their original misreporting in place. Good.

Lefties on GFY and outside freaked out based on the original video. Bad, but understandable.
Some lefties acknowledged this mistake. Good.
Some waited until they got the whole picture. Good.

So now: I would say that this kind of thing happening in left-leaning media is rare, but I could be wrong because I am bias towards the left.

Righties could say that Fox News and the like don't make these kinds of mistakes, on purpose or otherwise, because they are bias towards the right.

This should serve as a lesson, to both sides, that there is always more to the story. There are details hidden in details. One little mistake or omission can cause the world to freak out. Let's get the details, and maybe we can wiggle our way out of this mess. #**********2020
Mark they're going to crucify you for speaking out of turn here. Watch them attack you for telling the truth.
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This is a Disney film producer calling for kids to be thrown into a wood chipper. Imagine if this was a Trump support he would immediately be fired.

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This is a Disney film producer calling for kids to be thrown into a wood chipper. Imagine if this was a Trump support he would immediately be fired.

No he wouldn't. Libtards would have ran with the story tho. Just like you conservatards.
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I was going to say that I'm "on the fence" about this... but I'm not sure that I am.

Let's break it down a little.

The kids were there for a field trip. Fine.
They wore Maga hats. Fine (ugh, but fine).
They were taunted by some black kids. Bad.
Phillips came over and beat his drum right in the kids face. Bad.
The kid just smiled and took it. Good and Bad (* will explain in a sec)
The video only showed 1 part. Bad.
People, especially lefties, took that 1 video and went nuts over it. Bad
If the kid smirked and taunted Phillips, which I think he did, Bad.
If the kid smiled and prevented things from getting worse, good.
CNN and MSNBC reported it correctly. Good.
Vox reported it badly. Bad.
Vox corrected it, and left their original misreporting in place. Good.

Lefties on GFY and outside freaked out based on the original video. Bad, but understandable.
Some lefties acknowledged this mistake. Good.
Some waited until they got the whole picture. Good.

So now: I would say that this kind of thing happening in left-leaning media is rare, but I could be wrong because I am bias towards the left.

Righties could say that Fox News and the like don't make these kinds of mistakes, on purpose or otherwise, because they are bias towards the right.

This should serve as a lesson, to both sides, that there is always more to the story. There are details hidden in details. One little mistake or omission can cause the world to freak out. Let's get the details, and maybe we can wiggle our way out of this mess. #**********2020

Here's the problem Mark. The kid standing there with his feet glued to the ground with that smirk while his buddies were behind him laughing and mocking the Indian was nothing more than intimidation. Pure and simple. Throw in the Trump hats and that somehow emboldens these punks. The Indian had nothing to do with the blacks that were yelling shit and has zero to do with those kids actions.

And what the fuck are high school punks doing taking a trip protesting abortion anyway? Have those little inbreds thought about what happens if they got their sister pregnant? That shows they lack the ability to think about the consequences of their actions.

Guarantee you if they were wearing Obama shirts right wingers would be losing their shit.
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It's important not to lump everyone into "leftwing media". For sure Vox, CNN and MSNBC are left leaning, but only Vox of these 3 didn't dive deep enough to tell the whole story.

Another example is Fox News. Fox news has Fox and Friends which are about is weak-right as they come, but others like Shep Smith seem to call out bullshit, at least once in a while. If I as a lefty can see and acknowledge it, you should try to do the same for lefty news.



You're right, but I was commenting mostly on the reporting by CNN, MSNBC and VOX and not really about who was protesting what. Thanks for clarifying though.



I disagree. It's really, really hard to change peoples opinion of Trump. Look at GFY. Has anyone moved towards or away from Trump in the past 2 years? I don't think so.





Where in the article I linked to does it call for violence against the kid? Or anyone else? And why do you say "you guys"? If Rush Limbaugh called for violence I certainly wouldn't assume you or other righties here want violence too.
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[Anna Merlan (blue tick), reporter for Gizmodo and Jezebel: Blatantly lied about what the kids said and called for them to be attacked. - Since deleted her Tweet but continues to blame the innocent kids]-(https://archive.fo/ftIgA) Since deleted her Tweet but continues to blame the innocent kids

[Jennifer Bendery (blue tick), Senior political writer for The Huffington Post: After objective video evidence refutes the claims and proved the kids innocence, while posting a detailed factual account from a student, she not just dismisses the idea we should hear out their side but libels the students by repeating knowingly false lies about them.]-(Jennifer Bendery on Twitter: "On the one hand, you want to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. On the other hand, a group of white boys in MAGA hats -- some of whom are on film doing tomahawk chops -- in the face of a Native American elder kinda )

[Reza Aslan (blue tick), journalist/writer: Without a hint of irony - "I guess all the kids in MAGA hats shouting 'build that wall' was just my imagination." In response to objective video evidence literally proving the kids he's attacking never said that. Yes Reza, it's quite literally in your imagination.]-(Reza Aslan on Twitter: "I guess all the kids in MAGA hats shouting ?build that wall? was just my imagination.? ")

[Jack Morrissey (blue tick), Disney producer: Openly advocated murdering school children with a wood chipper because they were harassed by leftist activists after video refuted the claims and proved the boys innocent. Deleted Tweet and set account to private.]-(Jack Morrissey on Twitter: "#MAGAkids go screaming, hats first, into the woodchipper.? ")

[Sam Vinograd (blue tick), CNN National Security Analyst: After the story has been thoroughly refuted, after the school itself declared the kids innocent, in reply to the full video refuting her idiocy...she kept lying and attacking the high school students.]-(Sam Vinograd on Twitter: "No thank you. The students' school even disagree with what you are sharing. I don't want this video on my twitter page, and I would appreciate you deleting your tweet. I value all opinions and factual analysis, but not harmf)

[Maggie Haberman (blue tick), NYT White House Correspondent and CNN analyst: Knowingly lied about the kids and proceeded to encourage their expulsion for being harassed by left wing idiots.]-(http://archive.ph/XRHn7)

[Alyssa Milano (blue tick), failed C-List actress: After knowing the story was completely refuted, declares that high school children being publicly socially lynched are effectively Klan members.]-(http://archive.ph/dWPqv)

[Jodi Jacobson (blue tick), Editor in Chief of 'ReWire News': After video evidence refuted their narrative and proved the kids innocence, goes on a disgusting libelous rant blatantly lying about the students. Full blown lawsuit worthy. I mean flat out lies and claims shit all video evidence counters. Hope she's sued into the ground.]-(http://archive.ph/E3GaG)

[Rep. John Yarmuth (blue tick), Democrat: Openly advocated for banning MAGA hats, illegally violating the first amendment, over children being harassed while admitting he doesn't know all the facts yet. This was after video footage proved the boys innocence. When he got called out he backpedaled and attacked Trump supporters.]-(http://archive.ph/F9R7z)

[Andy Ostroy (blue tick), Huffington Post writer: After knowing the claims were false and video evidence defends the boys, libels the high school students and not only declares them racist for things they never did but justifies the black racists who were shouting racist and homophobic slurs as the kids.]-(http://archive.ph/Vn0le)

[Jim Heath (blue tick), Cronkite and Emmy award winning broadcaster: Full DARVO. Not only ignores the video proves the students didn't do anything but has the absolute assholeness to claim that it's the kids deflecting after being caught out and that it's Trumps fault they refuse to apologize.]-(http://archive.ph/1CcWi)

[Eugene Gu (blue tick), fired medical researcher and accused of assault of his ex-girlfriend, famous for being blocked by Trump on Twitter: After video proves the students were innocent and were in fact the ones being harassed by the SJW activists, declares children to be bigots. Hilariously tries to virtue signal for Native Americans by defending Fauxahontas.]-(http://archive.ph/tSq1H)

[Richard Stengel (blue tick), Political analyst for MSNBC: After the entire leftist narrative has been thoroughly refuted, after video proves the students didn't do anything wrong, comes out attacking the kids and calling them bigots. Blames Trump while declaring these boys toxic.]-(http://archive.ph/zWol2)

[Bill Bratton (blue tick), Commissioner of the New York City Police Department: A fucking POLICE COMMISSIONER for NYC jumps in after overwhelming objective video evidence proves these young students did absolutely nothing wrong and not only insults children, calls them "privileged" and demands they be expelled but does this in the face of these kids having racist and homophobic slurs thrown at them while they get harassed by activists. This is how he acts over proven innocent teens who weren't even accused of a crime just because they're right of Mao, imagine what he does to the due process of conservatives actually facing trial.]-(http://archive.ph/QLskL)
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Trump incels are so triggered and trying to make the racist hateful little shits in the video seem like victims now
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Black Israelites calling a group of white pro-life catholic teenagers "dirty ass crackers," "child molester faggots," "evil white racists," and "future school shooters." Guess which group the media chooses to publicly shame and ruin their lives...
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The kid was staring down the Indian protesters

The MAGA kids behind him were yelling and taunting them

They weren't out dancing and smiling and having fun.

It was adversarial.

"The truth isn't the truth" alt-right hate Jedi mind tricks
Maybe, but first, their kids, and second, the Indian dude pretty much started it. I'm all for equal rights but if that guy got in my face I'd feel pretty adversarial myself.

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Mark they're going to crucify you for speaking out of turn here. Watch them attack you for telling the truth.
You attack me every day for telling the truth. :D


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Here's the problem Mark. The kid standing there with his feet glued to the ground with that smirk while his buddies were behind him laughing and mocking the Indian was nothing more than intimidation. Pure and simple.
I agree with you on this case. The smirk deserved to be swatted off his face. But in this case, I'm willing to give him benefit of the doubt here. If a protester came up to me and did the same thing as the Indian did, I would stand still and smirk too. I believe what I believe and so does the kid, and both are allowed to protest. Doing it in anyones face though isn't right.



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Throw in the Trump hats and that somehow emboldens these punks. The Indian had nothing to do with the blacks that were yelling shit and has zero to do with those kids actions.
Agreed. But, both were allowed to be there. And lets face it, it could have ended much worse.
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