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Old 12-08-2018, 05:56 PM   #1
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Have You Been Pooping Plastic?

This story has been around for years but now there is proof. Growing up we didn’t have Tupperware or any plastic containers. My mom said the plastic was absorbed into the food. She still uses glass for everything. Reading what chemicals are used to make plastic, I’m thinking these bans on plastic are smart. Years ago, things like ketchup, mayonnaise, soda, salad dressing, and more were in glass only. Now it’s all plastic and more people are diagnosed with rare forms of cancer.

Humans Are Pooping Plastic, And No One’s Certain How Bad That Is

There’s a frightening lack of research about plastic’s effects on human health.

When Philipp Schwabl asked eight healthy people on four continents to take part in an experiment to see if plastic was present in their bodies, he had little idea what to expect.
The Medical University of Vienna researcher, who specializes in stomach disorders, asked them to keep a food diary for a week and record whether they had drunk water from plastic bottles, what brands of toothpaste and cosmetics they had used, and whether they had chewed gum. None were vegetarian, all had consumed plastic-wrapped food and most had consumed fish.

They were then asked to send a piece of their stool to an Austrian government laboratory where it was tested to identify barely visible microplastic particles, which are smaller than 5 millimeters long.

The study, published in August, confirmed for the first time that microplastics are deep inside humans. All eight volunteers were found to have particles of most of the nine most common classes of plastics, including polypropylene and PET. On average, Schwabl found 20 particles per 10 grams of stool.

“I did not think all the samples would be positive,” Schwabl said. “There is data on microplastics being present in shrimps, fish, oysters and mussels, but there was a question over whether they were present in humans. It is highly likely that during various steps of food processing or as a result of packaging, food is being contaminated with plastics.”

“The smallest particles are capable of entering the bloodstream, the lymphatic system and may even reach the liver,” he added. “We need further research to understand what this may mean for human health.”

A clutch of studies looking at large plastic fragments in oceans has recently shown the world’s most ubiquitous material to be present from the poles to the equator and to be a growing environmental hazard. Plastic in marine environments is now widely recognized to be a threat to many marine species.

The new awareness of plastic pollution is leading scientists to ask afresh how much the human body is being polluted.

Studies have found plastic fibers and fragments present throughout the food chain, in plankton and fish larvae, bottled and tap water, seafoods, honey and salt.

One analysis of 259 water bottles from 19 places in nine countries found an average of 325 plastic particles in every liter of water. One widely sold brand had concentrations of about 10,000 particles per liter, and only 17 of the 259 bottles contained water that was free qof plastic.

Other research has shown plastic particles shed from degrading car tires present in the air we breathe in the street, in homes from the washing of synthetic clothes, and in the soil via sludge from water treatment works that is used as a fertilizer.

With global plastic production increasing from 16.5 million tons a year in the 1960s to over 364 million tons a year now and expected to triple by 2050, research is needed to gauge what effect growing human exposure to it may be having, say scientists.

“Plastic is non-degradable. It cannot be broken down and has the potential to persist in our bodies for a lifetime after exposure,” said Stephanie Wright, a researcher at University College London who specializes in microscopic plastic pollution.

Concern is growing that many man-made chemicals added to consumer plastics to give them qualities like stiffness or transparency may contain hormone-altering chemicals that have barely been tested. According to one study, detectable levels of bisphenol A, one of a group of toxic chemicals, have been found in the urine of 95 percent of the adult population of the U.S.

People working in the textile industry have been shown to develop lung disease after exposure to nylon (plastic) flock, said Wright. “Continuous daily interaction with plastic allows oral, dermal [skin] and inhalation exposure to chemical components. The potential for microplastics and nanoplastics so small they cannot be seen by the naked eye to cause harm to human health remains understudied,” she said.

Michael Warhurst, director of European chemical watchdog group CHEM Trust, has, with academics, identified over 4,000 chemicals potentially present in plastic packaging, of which 63 have been identified as dangerous to human health because of their potential to disrupt hormones.

“Many chemicals used in plastics have not been tested for their endocrine-disrupting effects,” Warhurst said. “Current test methods are not very good at identifying all of them.”

Some of the most common are bisphenols and phthalates, used in everything from food packaging and toys to floor tiles and water bottles. They have been connected to childhood obesity, asthma, cardiovascular diseases and even cancers.

Many countries have either banned bisphenol A or advised that it may be dangerous to children. The United States’ National Toxicology Program has “some concern” for bisphenol A’s effect on the brain, behavior and prostate gland in fetuses, infants and children. It is still used widely in Europe.

But other bisphenols and phthalates are not banned and are used frequently in the production of consumer goods. Many, said Warhurst, may be similar or even more toxic than those banned.

“A lot of chemicals are very similar to known endocrine disruptors. When one gets banned, there are others behind it. Chemical companies are required to provide data but it’s not always comprehensive. There is no strict enforcement and companies can bring chemicals onto the market easily. More research is needed and much better control,” he said.

Other scientists have said the danger to human health, if any, may be in the smallest pieces, or nanoplastics. “Microplastics will not enter a cell, but nanoplastics are small enough to cross into cells and permeate the body,” said Anne Marie Mahon, a researcher at the Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology in Ireland. Her recent research found sludge in water treatment works full of microparticles.

“It’s possible that chemicals could be absorbed in our circulatory system or pass into our organs. But whether that is happening is unknown,” Mahon said.

In sufficient concentrations, chemicals can injure and kill cells in the human body, said Frank Kelly, chair of environmental health at King’s College London and one of Britain’s leading authorities on air pollution. He wrote with Stephanie Wright: “The cells may be replaced successfully or they may not. If inhaled or ingested, microplastics may accumulate and exert localized toxicity by inducing an immune response. ”

Their research is backed by Philipp Schwabl in Austria. “In animals, some microparticles have been found in the liver and embedded in tissue,” he said. “Depending on the amount, this could cause immune reactions. It’s possible that the minutest particles are in the human blood and tissue but it’s very hard to measure and we cannot prove it yet.”

“We urgently need more research,” he added.
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Old 12-08-2018, 07:02 PM   #2
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Old 12-08-2018, 08:18 PM   #3
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I'm slightly paranoid about this kind of thing and as a frequent water drinker I only use a metal bottle.
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Old 12-08-2018, 08:56 PM   #4
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I call bullshit cause with enough research everything causes cancer or something. I write this post with a plastic water bottle in one hand.
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Mankind is destroying itself. With it also lot of animal species and part of the planet, but in the end animals and the planet will survive... without having to suffer from that disease called "humans". And as we can read above... even though the signs are obvious, they're will always be people in denial. Which is good for that process of self destruction :-)
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Some glass has lead in it !
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Mankind is destroying itself. With it also lot of animal species and part of the planet, but in the end animals and the planet will survive... without having to suffer from that disease called "humans". And as we can read above... even though the signs are obvious, they're will always be people in denial. Which is good for that process of self destruction :-)
Today it’s plastic and tomorrow it’s vinyl. PVC. Rubber. Anything manufactured runs the risk as they continue to research it. Workers at a factory get cancer and they investigate but never quite get the answer. Silkwood with Cher was about a factory causing cancer, right?

I use insulated stainless steel drinking cups and tumblers because they keep drinks hot or cold for six plus hours. But also because plastic can break down and leech out chemicals. Next year they’ll say stainless steel retains germs or something.

It used to be said to eat homegrown veggies and fruit. Now they say it’s bad because the rain is tainted with chemicals. If you boil the water first, the pot used might have iron or plastic parts, thereby affecting the water. If you microwave it, the vessel you use could be toxic.

Our ancestors cooked over fire. Now it’s carcinogenic and deadly. You can’t bathe in the lakes or rivers or oceans as they’re infected with microbes and toxic substances.

Nothing is safe. We’re improving everything but destroying ourselves at the end. Yeah, it’s deep thinking for GFY but it’s the future.
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One of the most catastrophic events in human history was the 2004 Asian tsunami.

In 24 hours more human waste than in all previous history, a lot of it being plastics was dumped in to the oceans.

Those plastics will continue to break down in size until they are digested or evaporated, and its the evaporation that's the real concern, because then, even the rain in Spain.. will have plastics in it.

the scary thing is , no one really knows what the effects of that will be, and its not something we can stop.. its in process now.
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I have had reservations about plastic and food since the 70's.

Many years ago,
I did some work for a family owned dairy to bring them up to date in the latest tech.
The quick history is ... established just after ww2, they delivered in the Pittsburgh market.
They were the first dairy in the nation to move to 'wax paperboard' in the late 60's/early 70's?.
When everyone switch to plastic, they switched back to glass.

Now they make the most delicious chocolate milk you have ever tasted.
Mainly cause they use real chocolate and that does not take to milk very well, so they add a little cream to it to get it to mix well. Some states will not let you do that. But

But it's like drinking a choc-o-shake ! There is a good reason it tasted so much better.
They have a store on farm that you can purchase any of their goodies and have a pay by honor system. Even today.

Now, since they also deliver to convenient stores that also sell their milk in glass in half gallons, they also make some in pint bottles in plastic.

Having drank some from the plastic after drinking only from the glass for 6 months, one day confronting one of the boys about the taste of the smaller containers.

I said... "why don't you put the same milk in the pints as the half gallons?"
he said..."it is the same"
He looked at me with a strange face because my face was completely deranged.
He asked if I was OK... YEA...
It had confirmed everything I had always suspected about plastics leaching chemicals in food.
Food safe plastics... polyethylene is what most use when in contact with food.
But keep in mind that 'cans' are lined with it. So you don't get the metal taste or even tetanus. You may have noticed that old beer or pop often has that metal taste after the liner has dissolved through to the metal.

Believe what you will, but that is my true story I thought was good enough to share.
The government knows these leaching chem's are not exactly safe but for the moment, there is no good alternative, or so they say.

Know that while I do keep some canned food around now, I grow my own or buy frozen veggies.
I have never seen that taste leaching in frozen food plastics.
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Old 12-10-2018, 10:28 PM   #14
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Plastic can also help pooping ...

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