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10-17-2018, 07:29 AM | #51 | |
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Audio Offers Gruesome Details of Jamal Khashoggi Killing, Turkish Official Says:
Ok this is fucking disturbing.. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/17/w...6P_W-s_Zj8VgXY
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CNN: "Khashoggi disappearance prompts Kushner retreat from Saudi frontlines"
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/17/polit...ggi/index.html . .
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If anyone thinks those arms sales are a reason to look the other way...
Keep in mind that the mess those arms make, will require your tax dollars to clean-up in one form or another. That's if they don't end up in the hands of someone fighting directly against our interest. Funny that not many see past the moment. Saudi's are currently working against your energy interest in co-operation with Russia. You only get what you pay for and sometimes you pay dearly without knowing it. So... wish away cause your paying for it anyway. You might as well feel good about it. Smile, there is Vaseline ! just try to remember this when they come to cut your social security. But they will only be cutting the benefits, not the tax collection for it. The profits for the sale go to CEO, Board and the shareholders but the bill for it comes to the American people. Lots of interest and none of it represents you. |
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Trump inflated the amount of the arms deal, it's actually a fraction of 115$ billion.
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He inflates everything, whether its financial or otherwise. He forgets that inflated numbers can be fact-checked by the media and Stormy Daniels.
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During the campaign he boasted how he liked saudi arabia because the spent tens of millions buying properties from him. The news have been reporting that conflict of interest and he says it's fake news even when there's video of him saying it
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10-18-2018, 05:26 AM | #62 |
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Most of the world is "uncivilised". By that I mean they do not adhere to our, liberal, moderate, democrat, ethics, etc.
If you do business in China, Russia, Asia, Middle East, Africa, S. America, etc. People have to accept that these countries run to different standards than our Western standards. The false anger here is bullshit, because how many of will only take money from those countries? That's right, none of you. So before you criticise Trump turn off all traffic, stop shooting, taking affiliates except from from the following. Europe, N. America, Australia, New Zealand. Now it's your income on the line maybe your tune will change. |
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"Muslim Brotherhood"
"In truth, Khashoggi never had much time for western-style pluralistic democracy. In the 1970s he joined the Muslim Brotherhood, which exists to rid the Islamic world of western influence. He was a political Islamist until the end, recently praising the Muslim Brotherhood in the Washington Post. He championed the ‘moderate’ Islamist opposition in Syria, whose crimes against humanity are a matter of record. Khashoggi frequently sugarcoated his Islamist beliefs with constant references to freedom and democracy. But he never hid that he was in favour of a Muslim Brotherhood arc throughout the Middle East. His recurring plea to bin Salman in his columns was to embrace not western-style democracy, but the rise of political Islam which the Arab Spring had inadvertently given rise to. " .... "It was Yasin Aktay — a former MP for Turkey’s ruling Justice and Development party (AKP) — whom Khashoggi told his fiancée to call if he did not emerge from the consulate. The AKP is, in effect, the Turkish branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. His most trusted friend, then, was an adviser to President Erdogan, who is fast becoming known as the most vicious persecutor of journalists on earth. Khashoggi never meaningfully criticised Erdogan. So we ought not to see this as the assassination of a liberal reformer." https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/...mobster-state/ His friend, a prosecutor of journalists and close advisor to Erdogan is THE source of it all.... The "Muslim Brotherhood" arranged his "disappearance" to pin his "murder" on the Crown Prince.
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Hitler’s Holocaust started with death of one journalist in 1932. Hitler called journalists “The Lying Press”. Trump has called journalists “The Lying Press” and “Enemies of the people”
Two weeks ago an American journalist had his fingers cut off one by one, then his arms were cut off, then his legs. All while he was alive. His head was then cut off by Saudi killers wearing headphones who listened to music while they butchered him. Trump said: “Not an American citizen, none of our business” and “Saudi Prince denied it strongly. He is innocent”. |
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Well, they finally finished their report - it is official now.
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So the average intelligent person is supposed to believe that mild-mannered, small in stature journalist initiated a physical brawl with a 15 person hit squad who just happened to be waiting for him with a bone saw equipped forensic expert? Yeah...right. How fucking dumb do they think we are? Donald Trump will go with the story, that's for sure.
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Interesting watching the alt right try to link the journalist to all the terrorist groups in order to smear him Also interesting how they forgot that 15 of the terrorists that crashed the planes on 911 were Saudis. Where's WHP with his conspiracy thread, 15 terrorists and 15 hit squad
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"a fight broke out" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
oh this is some good shit...entertainment value 10/10... "and then his body mysteriously disappeared!!"
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So much for Trumps 'rogue killer' excuse.
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How someone can't see what a worthless sack of shit human Donald Trump is blows my mind.
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Asked Friday if he found the Saudi explanation for Khashoggi’s death “credible,” Trump responded: “I do, I do,”
"The King, instead of disciplining Mohammed bin Salman in any way, has appointed him to be the head of the investigation," "A lot of the weapons purchases they [Saudis] make are for the purposes of buying influence. They don't really need some of these weapons. There're reports that they simply store some of them in warehouses because they don't know what to do with them," Jatras explained. "They are a form of bribe money in essence. And there are a lot of people in suburbs here [Washington DC] that do want that gravy train to come to an end." "The US is not just supplying weapons, it is refueling the Saudi and UAE bomb planes in the middle of their bombing runs, providing target information, and it is providing diplomatic cover at the United Nations. The United States, together with Britain and France, have blocked UN Security Council resolutions for the ceasefire,"
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I think members of congress and leaders in other nations had already given this story substance while trump (mr isuzu) was golfing or campaigning. Otherwise he would be calling it FAKE NEWS and probably gotten away with it.
They way he talks, he has just fell short of asking folks to do the same to journalist here that he deems as evil and say work against the people. Some contrast. He has no moral authority. Better hope we don't end up in any NEW CONFLICTS. How would anyone take him serious to gain support for new military action in some other part of the world even if it were true. How would you know. The media provides FAKE NEWS according to him. Who would you trust... HIM? Mr Isuzu ...give me a break. The only hope they have of brushing this under the rug is to delay and wait till some other headline swamps the news. Probably will and Perhaps from a tweet ? Don't laugh at that because it seems to work. The only question is if the congress has enough brass to actually act. Even while most all members of congress will admit that the Russians have and continue to meddle in our elections, they have done nothing but sit on any and all legislation. Why ? because right now they feel it benefits them in re-election bids. And if the republicans maintain their majority, I doubt anything will be done about it. They are leaving it up to FB,Google,Twitter to do 'some' of the work and then criticize them when they do since most of them have paid for disinformation campaigns on social media. So I really doubt congress has the brass to act... just make a lot of noise so they can look like they are doing their job which they are not.. |
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it is just pure coincidence that one of the 15 men was a forensic pathologist
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Trump is weak to our enemies.
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Bush did nothing, Obama did nothing and now it's Trump's job to come down on one of the suppliers of 1,000s of American jobs.
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this is all going so well for the world IMO...fake "brand USA" is sinking like a rock and at the same time europe is being flooded with the victims of US foreign policy...now trump is insulting the intelligence of the entire world with his claims to believe the ridiculous story that a fight broke out...
I can not wait for the "punishment" when saudi arabia finishes investigating itself...as somebody said on the comments in yahoo "he will deliver the missiles to SA without the cool racing stripe"
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do you think the saudies would do that when someone else would be the POTUS? someone who is not personally and business connected to them and not that much in their hands because of other mistakes he did (like iran embargo). trump has made itself and america dependent on such rogue states and can't do anything. any sanctions would risk his own business, that of his son, and the supply of required oil to the united states. and also the saudies know that and have now been able to eliminate the man without fearing reprisals because their position is stronger than that of trump. trump is a blackmailable amateur mafiosi not able to play in the league of this guys. |
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the newest version:
When Khashoggi raised his voice, the (15 man) team panicked. They moved to restrain him, placing him in a chokehold and covering his mouth, according to the government's account. "They tried to prevent him from shouting but he died," the official said. “The intention was not to kill him."
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he doesn't say that this has to be accepted but that it took place the way the saudies tell it. everyone who adds up 1+1 can know that the saudies lie and laugh their heads off about trumps tries to wash the saudies clean of everything. i don't know if there has ever been such a case under any president before. but if there had been such a case then no previous president would have been made himself a helper in front of the eyes of the world |
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What do you guys think they did with his head?
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^^^ the obvious question is where is the body?...OK so he died in an """"""""fight"""""""...lets see the body...the saudis claimed a local agent disposed of it...where?
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You'll have to wait until the next episode "Turkey tells the truth" on Tuesday.
Spoiler alert: Minor traces of blood discovered in consulate. His body will never be found.
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Ooops turns out he tripped on a bone saw
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Ok trukish media are now reporting he spoke to the saudi prince by phone minutes before he was murdered...this just keeps getting better and better
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I hate it when that happens.
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germany put its weapons deliveries on ice after this incident. the usa continues to deliver diligently. but that's exactly the problem. without any noticeable consequences (for which trump is solely responsible), all journalists who don't fit into someones plan will soon be cut in pieces. for trump and his followers this would be ok if that happens to the ones what are critical. i hope you see here the obvious repeat of one of the darkest parts of human history. |
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and the sales of US bombs to SA so that they can drop on Yemen was going so well
will this cost the USA some bomb jobs?
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Some countries have now a big mouth. Will disappear once the oil price is up.
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like import tarifs so we depend less on China maybe?
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