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CurrentlySober · 10-14-2018, 03:30 AM

Fiddy i like poos !!!

DraX · 10-14-2018, 03:34 AM

CaptainHowdy · 10-14-2018, 03:48 AM

We can argue about anything around here . . .

Paul Markham · 10-14-2018, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

well i do not agree in that 100%.
what the guy says in the video is basically correct - but he forgot a few things:

1. islam is not islam - same as christian not christian. - we should only look at some mormon sects who still live today in freedom treading wifes and children like 200 years ago.

2. if you blame religion for such things you just blame the power and influence that ANY religion might have on uneducated people. so it is not the religion - it is the lack of education what makes them vulnerable fro brain washing.

3. (and here i agree with you completely) the people in this countries are under educated BECAUSE it is much easier to get what the west wants if they have to deal with just a few corrupt and powerful leaders. so at the end we are financing the under education and the circumstances we see.

the point in this whole discussion is, that the hardliners here are thinking that people like you and me are not able to see the problems.
they do not understand that we can see the problems but looking deeper to find the roots.

if you want to extinguish burning oil with water it comes to an explosion and that's exactly the difference of our way of thinking

Islam is Islam. It depends on whet texts of the Holy books you adhere to.

Christianity in the main does not demand the death of those who disagree with a version of Islam the killer adheres to.

you are dead right about power and influence. The EU and unelected bureaucrats wield too much power over Europe.

It's not the responsibility of educated countries to educate those who are under elected. Who will pay for that?

Tell us how we solve the problems and how much it will cost?

pimpmaster9000 · 10-14-2018, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SIK

Nope. USA is shitting on YOUR side of the world, because you're shitting on others.
You know, like when child bullies a smaller child and then a bigger child steps in and gives some deserved spanking.

Croatia got no problems with USA (or anyone for that matter), we're not fucking around with neighbors.

keep eating US ass in your ethnically pure croatia then...it is just history repeating that croats murder serbs and side with the invaders...I hope the 10$/day extra that you make than bombed out serbia was worth it

the rest of europe will get flooded with US shit and I will be in south or central america laughing...it is what you get for being US lapdogs...but you will make nice $$$ for the american military industrial complex

and one day when the rest of the world arms up you will be fighting their proxy war for them or getting racketeered in to paying """"""Defense"""""""

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Originally Posted by SIK

See? We're efficient as fuck.

yes I know this is why nobody wanted to live under your terrorist leaders

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srbosjek

"In the Jasenovac concentration camp competitions in speedy slaughter were organized by the Ustaše. The winner of one such competition, Petar Brzica slit the throats of 1,300[9] (or 1360 [10]) prisoners."

SIK · 10-14-2018, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

the rest of europe will get flooded with US shit and I will be in south or central america laughing...

good luck with that, hope you find true happiness, then and there

thommy · 10-14-2018, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Offer EU countries an open trade deal instead of the EU and the whole thing collapses. The only reason to stay in the EU is trade. That was why it started out as the Common Market and has taken more and more power.

trade is based on same money and same standards.
and it will also only make sense when every country helps the other to keep or gain trading power.

the first mistake of britain was already not to use the euro.
this made longterm deals unpredictable because a company that orders for the next season in some other country of the EU did never know how much it will be than.

the second mistake of ALL EU countries (but britain in front) was/is that they all want to make their rules as standard and this can not work.

a unity need same rules for everybody. and to keep everybody "happy" they implemented ALL negative from EVERY country instead just taking the best one.
we have the best example in porn. if a german or french webmaster is doing the same as a dutch webmaster he will go for many years to jail.

and now let´s talk about security standards !
how can one country with high security standards buy from another one that does not have the same standards? and how can this country with the high standards sell to one with low standards? the production costs for high standards are much higher and not competitive to low standard production.

we always come back to the point that it is IMPOSSIBLE to explain people economy who do not have a clue about it. but exactly this was leading to the brexit because people have been so dumb that they believed in lies what have been proven lies already one day after the vote.

thommy · 10-14-2018, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Islam is Islam. It depends on whet texts of the Holy books you adhere to.

Christianity in the main does not demand the death of those who disagree with a version of Islam the killer adheres to.

you are dead right about power and influence. The EU and unelected bureaucrats wield too much power over Europe.

It's not the responsibility of educated countries to educate those who are under elected. Who will pay for that?

Tell us how we solve the problems and how much it will cost?

so christians are the "educated" ones?

why do they have to steal and falsificate another religion?

the answer is: because they are a biz like every other religion is (because every other religion except a few natural ones are stolen from the same gilgamesch epos)
and as long as people don´t even know that there are no educated ones on no side.

the only different in the christian culture is that there are many who woke up and left the religion. so yes there are more UNRELIGIOS in the west - that´s the point.

Paul Markham · 10-14-2018, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

trade is based on same money and same standards.
and it will also only make sense when every country helps the other to keep or gain trading power.

the first mistake of britain was already not to use the euro.
this made longterm deals unpredictable because a company that orders for the next season in some other country of the EU did never know how much it will be than.

the second mistake of ALL EU countries (but britain in front) was/is that they all want to make their rules as standard and this can not work.

a unity need same rules for everybody. and to keep everybody "happy" they implemented ALL negative from EVERY country instead just taking the best one.
we have the best example in porn. if a german or french webmaster is doing the same as a dutch webmaster he will go for many years to jail.

and now let´s talk about security standards !
how can one country with high security standards buy from another one that does not have the same standards? and how can this country with the high standards sell to one with low standards? the production costs for high standards are much higher and not competitive to low standard production.

we always come back to the point that it is IMPOSSIBLE to explain people economy who do not have a clue about it. but exactly this was leading to the brexit because people have been so dumb that they believed in lies what have been proven lies already one day after the vote.

/IMG]

You talk absolute garbage sometimes.

Countries are forming trade deals all the time without adopting the same laws and currency. Does Germany have the Renminbi and allow China to dictate it's laws? Does it effect other countries using different currencies? your ideology about the same rules is garbage.

The good thing is the UK stayed out of the single currency. Lumbering Germany to under right other countries massive debts. Sometime those debts will come home to rest.

You obviously know nothing about exports and imports. Goods sent or received from abroad must conform the the standards of the importing countries. That way we can do business with non-EU countries without being ruled by them.

I fail to see why it's impossible for you to grasp the obvious truth.

List the projects that only could have been achieved by the EU and you will see the pros of membership. List the bad things the EU has done to see the cons. Start with the EU, Euro, migration, freedom of movement, etc.

Paul Markham · 10-14-2018, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy

so christians are the "educated" ones?

why do they have to steal and falsificate another religion?

the answer is: because they are a biz like every other religion is (because every other religion except a few natural ones are stolen from the same gilgamesch epos)
and as long as people don´t even know that there are no educated ones on no side.

the only different in the christian culture is that there are many who woke up and left the religion. so yes there are more UNRELIGIOS in the west - that´s the point.

More educates than Muslims. Belief in any form of god is a sign of a poor education. As you point out some are based on 3000 year old gilgamesch fables. Which probable go back further than that in oral stories. That's why in the West most people are giving up on religion.

You complain about the Mormons and there wanting to go back 200 years. Does that include executing people for little or no reason today?

Bladewire · 10-14-2018, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

so christians are the "educated" ones?

why do they have to steal and falsificate another religion?

the answer is: because they are a biz like every other religion is (because every other religion except a few natural ones are stolen from the same gilgamesch epos)
and as long as people don´t even know that there are no educated ones on no side.

the only different in the christian culture is that there are many who woke up and left the religion. so yes there are more UNRELIGIOS in the west - that´s the point.

Great point

thommy · 10-14-2018, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

You talk absolute garbage sometimes.

Countries are forming trade deals all the time without adopting the same laws and currency. Does Germany have the Renminbi and allow China to dictate it's laws? Does it effect other countries using different currencies? your ideology about the same rules is garbage.

The good thing is the UK stayed out of the single currency. Lumbering Germany to under right other countries massive debts. Sometime those debts will come home to rest.

You obviously know nothing about exports and imports. Goods sent or received from abroad must conform the the standards of the importing countries. That way we can do business with non-EU countries without being ruled by them.

I fail to see why it's impossible for you to grasp the obvious truth.

List the projects that only could have been achieved by the EU and you will see the pros of membership. List the bad things the EU has done to see the cons. Start with the EU, Euro, migration, freedom of movement, etc.

it is funny to explain someone with no skills in economy how economy works.

why do you think jaguar builds for the continent with steering left?
CORRECT ! because otherwise they wouldn't be bought there !

and do you think that makes the production for jaguar cheaper?
no ! and therefore they are much too expensive - which is another reason why only a few of them are sold!

without common standards, a product cannot even bear the same name.
marmelade and jam for example are 2 very different products. now ask an austrian if he knows what jam is. they have only ONE WORD for it and that is called MARMELADE (and they complained a lot when they had to change there common standard)

germany also had to accept that beers coming from abroad and actually not allowed to exist in germany at all according to a set of 1516 should be called beer. 15 years ago they weren't even allowed to be on german shelves because they are full of chemistry.
since then you have to look closely at beer to see if it is a real or a chemical beer. but the Germans had to bow to the fact that marmelade can only consist of fruits if it wants to be called that way and jam contains mainly sugar water.

and if you ask me we would need even more standards and EU regulations because i still buy the same tablets in germany for over 50 € and in spain for the same product I pay 2,69 €.

i would call it also good if on "bananas from spain" also the information is written that they actually come from peru and were packed only in spain

how will you trade if every importing country first has to research what is legally allowed in a supplier country and what is not?

there have always been standards in trade - because how else could you buy a screw in size 10 if you don't even know what the 10 stands for and each country has a different standard.

england just wants to leave everything at its own standards. the others should change that.
all over europe the inch measure for screens has been adopted but the decimal meter system, which is also valid in the whole EU, has not been adopted by england until today. don't you think that this costs time and manpower?

again - you are not anybody who ever run a big business with many employees. so you try to explain something where you do not have the smallest skills.
people who do not know what are they talking about should not make the rules or even complain the existing ones because they can´t come up with better ideas.

Bladewire · 10-14-2018, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

On the contrary. I love my country and the continent of Europe very much, it's a beautiful place. THAT's why I am so against the EU.

No you're against the EU because you want Europe to be weak.

If you loved "your" country you'd want to reform the EU, not disband it.

You have far right radical views and spew Russian propaganda here constantly. You said you'd rather move to Russia over America. It's clear why you want the EU disbanded and it has nothing to do with your love of the country you immigrated to, yet have nothing good to say about, Holland.

SIK · 10-14-2018, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

No you're against the EU because you want Europe to be weak.

If you loved "your" country you'd want to reform the EU, not disband it.

You have far right radical views and spew Russian propaganda here constantly. You said you'd rather move to Russia over America. It's clear why you want the EU disbanded and it has nothing to do with your love of the country you immigrated to, yet have nothing good to say about, Holland.

You jealous foreigners always trying to stir the pot with Europeans. Lame

I couldn't imagine going to a board like GFY online and speaking a foreign language, talking about a foreign country and their people and their politics and telling them they don't love their country trying to cause conflict it's just bizarre. You'd literally have to have no life, and a shity existence in your own country, to think that was fun or an escape from your demise or worth your time

and a...

Bladewire · 10-14-2018, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SIK

You jealous foreigners always trying to stir the pot with Europeans. Lame

I couldn't imagine going to a board like GFY online and speaking a foreign language, talking about a foreign country and their people and their politics and telling them they don't love their country trying to cause conflict it's just bizarre. You'd literally have to have no life, and a shity existence in your own country, to think that was fun or an escape from your demise or worth your time

and...

You forgot to login to your Nico-T nic in your reply to me

I see you had to cut out some of my post, and alter it, to make a false equivalency.

Unfortunate that you can't be honest to make a valid point.

I'm not on a Dutch speaking board, pretending to be Dutch, posting about Dutch politics every day, with multiple fake nics.

SIK · 10-14-2018, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

You forgot to login to your Nico-T nic in your reply to me

Yeah, you got me there.

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Originally Posted by beerpatrol

I see you had to cut out some of my post, and alter it, to make a false equivalency.

One word change: Americans -> Europeans

But more than enough to prove you're a hypocrite

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

I'm not on a Dutch speaking board, pretending to be Dutch, posting about Dutch politics every day, with multiple fake nics.

Nope, but you are on an English speaking board, speaking about Brexit

Paul Markham · 10-15-2018, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy

it is funny to explain someone with no skills in economy how economy works.

why do you think jaguar builds for the continent with steering left?
CORRECT ! because otherwise they wouldn't be bought there !

and do you think that makes the production for jaguar cheaper?
no ! and therefore they are much too expensive - which is another reason why only a few of them are sold!

without common standards, a product cannot even bear the same name.
marmelade and jam for example are 2 very different products. now ask an austrian if he knows what jam is. they have only ONE WORD for it and that is called MARMELADE (and they complained a lot when they had to change there common standard)

germany also had to accept that beers coming from abroad and actually not allowed to exist in germany at all according to a set of 1516 should be called beer. 15 years ago they weren't even allowed to be on german shelves because they are full of chemistry.
since then you have to look closely at beer to see if it is a real or a chemical beer. but the Germans had to bow to the fact that marmelade can only consist of fruits if it wants to be called that way and jam contains mainly sugar water.

and if you ask me we would need even more standards and EU regulations because i still buy the same tablets in germany for over 50 € and in spain for the same product I pay 2,69 €.

i would call it also good if on "bananas from spain" also the information is written that they actually come from peru and were packed only in spain

how will you trade if every importing country first has to research what is legally allowed in a supplier country and what is not?

there have always been standards in trade - because how else could you buy a screw in size 10 if you don't even know what the 10 stands for and each country has a different standard.

england just wants to leave everything at its own standards. the others should change that.
all over europe the inch measure for screens has been adopted but the decimal meter system, which is also valid in the whole EU, has not been adopted by england until today. don't you think that this costs time and manpower?

again - you are not anybody who ever run a big business with many employees. so you try to explain something where you do not have the smallest skills.
people who do not know what are they talking about should not make the rules or even complain the existing ones because they can´t come up with better ideas.

So countries outside the EU are unable to trade with each other because they have different standards? And non-EU countries can't import into the EU.

As for bananas we don't have them in Europe as they are grown in tropical climates.

And oil and gas are forbidden in the EU unless they come from EU countries.

Do you ever think before you post?

Bladewire · 10-15-2018, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SIK

Nope, but you are on an English speaking board, speaking about Brexit

Yeah because my family is from the British Isles you moron. Your false equivalencies are so weak.

Paul Markham · 10-15-2018, 09:12 AM

Still waiting for Thommy to name the things that only could have been achieved by the EU, could not of been done before and not done by other countries. Can he help us?

thommy · 10-15-2018, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So countries outside the EU are unable to trade with each other because they have different standards? And non-EU countries can't import into the EU.

it is a least MUCH harder and only the cheap price gives that a sense.
EU imports and exports were growing a few 100% since the Euro.
is that not prove enough?

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As for bananas we don't have them in Europe as they are grown in tropical climates.

paul, england and CZ are not the only countries in the EU.
i have a banana tree here in my house in spain and they are a huge export good for spain.

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And oil and gas are forbidden in the EU unless they come from EU countries.

what ??? i did not get that. we do have oil and gas in the EU but we still need to import from non EU countries. and in oil and gas are INTERNATIONAL standards. the only incalculable aspect is the price because these goods are usually sold in US-dollar because it is not only the price it is also the exchange rate what can change here and this is a double risk.

actually the EU is working on oil trade deals with iran in euro instead of dollars and that
makes much more sense for the EU countries.

Quote:

Do you ever think before you post?

yes i do and when i tell you something about anything you can be sure that it is something i was already interested in before.

but the real problem is that I do understand economy and you are not.
it was and is my fucking job to understand that and if i would be bad in that i would probably also live in CZ today in a cheap old home and cry about the good times in the past when every lame idiot could make money.

you might have other qualities that I do not have but in economy you are definitely
on a very low knowledge level.

Paul Markham · 10-15-2018, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy

it is a least MUCH harder and only the cheap price gives that a sense.
EU imports and exports were growing a few 100% since the Euro.
is that not prove enough?

paul, england and CZ are not the only countries in the EU.
i have a banana tree here in my house in spain and they are a huge export good for spain.

what ??? i did not get that. we do have oil and gas in the EU but we still need to import from non EU countries. and in oil and gas are INTERNATIONAL standards. the only incalculable aspect is the price because these goods are usually sold in US-dollar because it is not only the price it is also the exchange rate what can change here and this is a double risk.

actually the EU is working on oil trade deals with iran in euro instead of dollars and that
makes much more sense for the EU countries.

yes i do and when i tell you something about anything you can be sure that it is something i was already interested in before.

but the real problem is that I do understand economy and you are not.
it was and is my fucking job to understand that and if i would be bad in that i would probably also live in CZ today in a cheap old home and cry about the good times in the past when every lame idiot could make money.

you might have other qualities that I do not have but in economy you are definitely
on a very low knowledge level.

So countries that are not in the EU can trade with the EU and the EU has signed trade treaties with non-EU countries and does trade with non-EU countries. Thank you for agreeing with me at last.

This will educate you more.

And https://cer.eu/in-the-press/eu-has-3...n-after-brexit

Now tell us what the EU has achieved that no other country has done.

Good luck with supplying bananas from only EU countries. LOL

thommy · 10-15-2018, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So countries that are not in the EU can trade with the EU and the EU has signed trade treaties with non-EU countries and does trade with non-EU countries. Thank you for agreeing with me at last.

This will educate you more.

And https://cer.eu/in-the-press/eu-has-3...n-after-brexit

Now tell us what the EU has achieved that no other country has done.

Good luck with supplying bananas from only EU countries. LOL

paul, you are a fucking moron.

the BIGGEST advantage of the EU is that negotiations are taking place with a UNITY.
This is no longer a matter of individual countries buying, but of a large community that no country in the world can oversee.

Exactly THIS IS why the EU is hated by putin and trump and that's why fake news and simple but untrue explanations are delivered to naive people like you to destroy this community from inside.

who do you think will benefit from a trade agreement between USA and GB (should it ever be concluded) if Great Britain is only a small dispensable part over the big pond?

what do you think would happen if not the USA but every single US state concluded trade agreements ?

you don't understand anything but nothing about the world economy and the bundled purchasing power.

the EU is exactly that what you're preaching here. the states have OBLIGATED themselves to buy from each other, they have agreed on common values and standards and act as a UNITY to the outside with these very standards.
trade is not ONLY easier inside the EU with same standards it is also easier with other countries.

maybe you would have been happy in your time if your film cassettes each had a different format. or maybe even your own format for yourself. but nobody would have produced it for you mister super smart because you are easy to overlook.

everything you write here sounds like you've flown over some fake news article 5 minutes before but not like KNOWLEDGE.

you are a retired pussy picture taker and that is also granted to you. but you were never, are not and will never be someone who has even a hint of idea about the subject of economy.

i mean, look at you. where did your economic wisdom take you? you wouldn't even be able to survive financially in your country of birth. and YOU tell us something about economics? do you think anyone needs a goat to take care of the leaf salad?

thommy · 10-15-2018, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

And https://cer.eu/in-the-press/eu-has-3...n-after-brexit

Now tell us what the EU has achieved that no other country has done.

Good luck with supplying bananas from only EU countries. LOL

btw. it looks like you just found the headline of this article and did not read it.

so i will copy the important part for you from YOUR article:

Quote:

As well as political obstacles, Fox faces a number of technical issues. All trade deals include a “most favoured nation” (MFN) clause, which mean that if one partner signs a better trade deal with another country, all previous trade partners are entitled to the same upgrade. Some of the EU’s FTAs were signed many years ago. By rolling over the newer, more comprehensive deals, the UK could trigger MFN clauses in older, narrower ones, prompting governments to demand a parallel upgrade.

A further problem is presented by “rules of origin,” a feature of all trade agreements. These rules establish the proportion of a product that must be produced domestically in order to qualify for free trade. A common threshold is around 40 per cent. Many products include some imported parts—the UK imports $80 billion worth of goods from third countries for use in British production (excluding precious metals and stones).

Where two countries with an FTA supply a lot of components and commodities to one another, they often agree that their components can be added together, or “cumulated,” to meet the threshold. It is likely that the EU and UK will agree to cumulation between themselves. But when third countries are also involved, it becomes more complex. When the UK and EU are no longer one entity, the UK will be unable to cumulate domestic components with those from the EU and meet, say, Canadian rules of origin, without a cumulation agreement with Canada. Many British products would no longer satisfy Canada’s threshold, and so producers would be forced to pay Canadian tariffs on imports.

There are two possible solutions. First, the EU, Canada and the UK could rewrite the Canada-EU FTA to enable “diagonal” cumulation between the three parties. This would need to be negotiated for all of the EU’s agreements, and would require consent from both the EU and the other country. But the EU may not be willing to renegotiate its rules of origin agreements with other countries for British benefit, especially because its own exporters might be able to take market share from British ones in countries outside Europe.

Second, the UK could go it alone, and negotiate lower local content rules. The other countries, if they agree, would then also have a lower threshold, with potential benefits for their exporters. But governments may refuse to relax the rules in those sectors where British exporters are more competitive.

next time you send me a "prove" read ist first !!

Tasty1 · 10-15-2018, 12:53 PM

Tasty1 · 10-15-2018, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy

we have the best example in porn. if a german or french webmaster is doing the same as a dutch webmaster he will go for many years to jail.

Yes, that is why me stop the EU! Or the dutch webmaster just move to another coutry where they also don't give a shit

thommy · 10-15-2018, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

the most important lines in that nice beatles songs for you :

But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out

You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan

But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head

CaptainHowdy · 10-15-2018, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy

But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out

There's no revolution without destruction . . .

thommy · 10-15-2018, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Yes, that is why me stop the EU! Or the dutch webmaster just move to another coutry where they also don't give a shit

what have that to do with the EU ?

nothing !

if the EU would be same a german webmaster would be able to make his money the same way as the dutch webmaster can.

but youth protection is not regulated from the EU it is based on country laws and not on EU laws. so if you hate this law in your country (and I don´t know WHY you should because you are in one of the most liberal) you should blame holland and not the EU.

SIK · 10-15-2018, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Yeah because my family is from the British Isles you moron. Your false equivalencies are so weak.

blah blah blah

Hillary lost the election. Deal with it.

Tasty1 · 10-15-2018, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy

what have that to do with the EU ?

nothing !

if the EU would be same a german webmaster would be able to make his money the same way as the dutch webmaster can.

but youth protection is not regulated from the EU it is based on country laws and not on EU laws. so if you hate this law in your country (and I don´t know WHY you should because you are in one of the most liberal) you should blame holland and not the EU.

That is step 2, they will make all laws the same and that will be worse than the laws in Holland.

I remember i could stay in Brazil for 6 months, cause the Benelux had an agreement with Brazil that both countries had 6 months visa. Than suddenly Brazil had to make a deal with the EU. And than the same rule for Eurpeans in Brazil and Brazilian in the EU counted, people can maximum stay for 3 months.. Thanks EU.. And that is how it will go with all laws, all wil be changed for European laws.

Tasty1 · 10-15-2018, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy

the most important lines in that nice beatles songs for you :

But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out

You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan

But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head

Well, i hear the EU talking a lot of destruction of Poland...
In the end, the Brexit will be allright.

Paul Markham · 10-16-2018, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy

paul, you are a fucking moron.

the BIGGEST advantage of the EU is that negotiations are taking place with a UNITY.
This is no longer a matter of individual countries buying, but of a large community that no country in the world can oversee.

Exactly THIS IS why the EU is hated by putin and trump and that's why fake news and simple but untrue explanations are delivered to naive people like you to destroy this community from inside.

who do you think will benefit from a trade agreement between USA and GB (should it ever be concluded) if Great Britain is only a small dispensable part over the big pond?

what do you think would happen if not the USA but every single US state concluded trade agreements ?

you don't understand anything but nothing about the world economy and the bundled purchasing power.

the EU is exactly that what you're preaching here. the states have OBLIGATED themselves to buy from each other, they have agreed on common values and standards and act as a UNITY to the outside with these very standards.
trade is not ONLY easier inside the EU with same standards it is also easier with other countries.

maybe you would have been happy in your time if your film cassettes each had a different format. or maybe even your own format for yourself. but nobody would have produced it for you mister super smart because you are easy to overlook.

everything you write here sounds like you've flown over some fake news article 5 minutes before but not like KNOWLEDGE.

you are a retired pussy picture taker and that is also granted to you. but you were never, are not and will never be someone who has even a hint of idea about the subject of economy.

i mean, look at you. where did your economic wisdom take you? you wouldn't even be able to survive financially in your country of birth. and YOU tell us something about economics? do you think anyone needs a goat to take care of the leaf salad?

Now it's only an advantage to be in the EU.

That advantage is what? Not the single currency as not EU countries were foolish enough to join it, not even having the same standards applies across the EU. The UK drives on the left but EU countries have no problem adapting to sell cars.

If the EU countries were allowed to negotiate trade deals it would be a damn faster than the long EU process.Maybe a decent trade deal with the US might force them into buying more from the UK.

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The United States had $686 billion in total (two ways) goods trade with the European Union during 2016, its largest Goods trade partner. Goods exports totaled $270 billion; Goods imports totaled $416 billion. The U.S. goods trade deficit with the EU was $147 billion in 2016.

What's happening with Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership the deal the EU insisted upon doing behind closed doors. Allowing the bureaucrats to sell Europe down the river, without anyone checking up on them.

In the US different States have their Governments, allowing them to make some of their laws. But as you point out they all trade with each other.

Film cassettes standards are world wide and were around and set before the EU existed. You have totally failed to give us any reasons for being ruled by a centralised government dictated to by unelected bureaucrats who can't decide where to base themselves. The seven institutions of the European Union (EU) are seated in four different cities, viz. Brussels, Frankfurt, Luxembourg and Strasbourg, rather than being concentrated in a single capital city. The EU agencies and other bodies are located all across the union, but usually not fixed in the treaties. And you claim it makes life easier.

Paul Markham · 10-16-2018, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

btw. it looks like you just found the headline of this article and did not read it.

so i will copy the important part for you from YOUR article:

next time you send me a "prove" read ist first !!

So bureaucrats would make it harder? Rolling over means applying the same rules so no worries.

Paul Markham · 10-16-2018, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

what have that to do with the EU ?

nothing !

if the EU would be same a german webmaster would be able to make his money the same way as the dutch webmaster can.

but youth protection is not regulated from the EU it is based on country laws and not on EU laws. so if you hate this law in your country (and I don´t know WHY you should because you are in one of the most liberal) you should blame holland and not the EU.

For now the EU doesn't regulate youth protection. Give them time and they will set up a committee to do it. The EU grows in power slowly so you see how bad it is over the years.

Paul Markham · 10-16-2018, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Well, i hear the EU talking a lot of destruction of Poland...
In the end, the Brexit will be allright.

Because the EU demands a centralised government which Thommy has failed to point out is needed. It has too punish the countries that step out of line.

Unlike the States where localised rule is treasured.https://study.com/academy/lesson/wha...oles-quiz.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_..._United_States

The American State and Local Government - TheUSAonline.com

And yet it stills functions great and has an enormous trade with the world. Making Thommy's argument irrelevant.

pimpmaster9000 · 10-16-2018, 05:45 AM

as soon as every country leaves the evil evil EU, cash will start falling from the sky...just vote for the miracle pill leaders, they know better...oh, and if they fuck up, you can blame the EU

same narrative as in yugoslavia...IRL out of the 7 new countries, 6 are doing shit...serbia is doing the most shit because it was under sanctions for 20 years etc but macedonia/kosovo/croatia/montenegro/bosnia are doing far worse than they did in yugo...the standard of living is lower, the politicians are richer...only slovenia is doing "better" but IRL it is doing the same as it did in yugo...nothing changed except who you pay taxes to...

moral of the story:

Paul Markham · 10-16-2018, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

as soon as every country leaves the evil evil EU, cash will start falling from the sky...just vote for the miracle pill leaders, they know better...oh, and if they fuck up, you can blame the EU

same narrative as in yugoslavia...IRL out of the 7 new countries, 6 are doing shit...serbia is doing the most shit because it was under sanctions for 20 years etc but macedonia/kosovo/croatia/montenegro/bosnia are doing far worse than they did in yugo...the standard of living is lower, the politicians are richer...only slovenia is doing "better" but IRL it is doing the same as it did in yugo...nothing changed except who you pay taxes to...

moral of the story:

Countries like those of the old Yugoslavia will be better off inside the EU. The EU gives money to these type of countries. We in Czech are doing better. In our small town we have two examples of wasted EU funds. A pond that dries up in the summer as it has no natural water and a small tower on top of of a hill. The only thing to see is the town.

pimpmaster9000 · 10-16-2018, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Countries like those of the old Yugoslavia will be better off inside the EU. The EU gives money to these type of countries. We in Czech are doing better. In our small town we have two examples of wasted EU funds. A pond that dries up in the summer as it has no natural water and a small tower on top of of a hill. The only thing to see is the town.

when a small fish enters the pond where big fish are the result is always the same...macedonia/serbia/montenegro/croatia/bosnia = all the same story = big fish eats little fish...

I can go in to detail but the lets just look at croatia and serbia...

serbia is a bombed out shit hole with 20 years sactions, 2 wars and even greater destruction post war by western puppet leaders and banks and their loan sharking to desperate people...it is fair to say that serbia got the biggest shaft...

now lets look at croatia...croats make $10/day more than serbs, no dispute about this, but life is more expensive in croatia...so IRL it is 5$/day...

5$/day is the realistic difference...and this 5$ is ONLY because serbia got the worst cards dealt...

compared to europe, all ex yugo countries are a joke...yugoslavia had a better living standard than any exyu country today...

Paul Markham · 10-16-2018, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

when a small fish enters the pond where big fish are the result is always the same...macedonia/serbia/montenegro/croatia/bosnia = all the same story = big fish eats little fish...

I can go in to detail but the lets just look at croatia and serbia...

serbia is a bombed out shit hole with 20 years sactions, 2 wars and even greater destruction post war by western puppet leaders and banks and their loan sharking to desperate people...it is fair to say that serbia got the biggest shaft...

now lets look at croatia...croats make $10/day more than serbs, no dispute about this, but life is more expensive in croatia...so IRL it is 5$/day...

5$/day is the realistic difference...and this 5$ is ONLY because serbia got the worst cards dealt...

compared to europe, all ex yugo countries are a joke...yugoslavia had a better living standard than any exyu country today...

In the EU the votes of the small fish when banded together can easily out vote the few big fish. Otherwise I would gladly agree with you.

redwhiteandblue · 10-16-2018, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

the first mistake of britain was already not to use the euro.

Sorry....did you actually write that? I mean, was that actually the thought in your head when your fingers touched the keys on your keyboard to make those words?

I'm sorry, I just can't take anything else you say seriously after that.

Tasty1 · 10-16-2018, 10:30 AM

SIK · 10-16-2018, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

now lets look at croatia...croats make $10/day more than serbs, no dispute about this, but life is more expensive in croatia...so IRL it is 5$/day...

That isn't the only measurement of life quality in any country.

Anyway, biggest problem in Croatia is corruption in every (even tiniest) branch, causing insane % of government money to go down the drain, without any progress.

Serbia and Bosnia got it even worse than Croatia.

pimpmaster9000 · 10-16-2018, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SIK

That isn't the only measurement of life quality in any country.

Anyway, biggest problem in Croatia is corruption in every (even tiniest) branch, causing insane % of government money to go down the drain, without any progress.

Serbia and Bosnia got it even worse than Croatia.

if a comet fell from the sky and completely destroyed the serbian parliament it would be the best thing that ever happened to serbia in its entire history...we would have 2-3 weeks of freedom before the west installs new puppets...

I laugh at the "exit" crew, thinking that a smaller country can ever be independent from the big players...the smaller you are the higher the "fixed expense" is of having a corrupt government...at least when you are a big country the fixed expense is divided among a larger population so the cost is less and the political leverage is greater...

Tasty1 · 10-16-2018, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SIK

That isn't the only measurement of life quality in any country.

Anyway, biggest problem in Croatia is corruption in every (even tiniest) branch, causing insane % of government money to go down the drain, without any progress.

Serbia and Bosnia got it even worse than Croatia.

Croatia is rapidly growing in popularity for holidays.
I drove the whole coast a few years ago, looked nice.
Saw some people working at parking lots missing some parts of their body.
Nice toll roads payed by Europe and when driving them i had to pay again for them.

SIK · 10-16-2018, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Croatia is rapidly growing in popularity for holidays.
I drove the whole coast a few years ago, looked nice.
Saw some people working at parking lots missing some parts of their body.
Nice toll roads payed by Europe and when driving them i had to pay again for them.

That (tourism) is insane money cow for Croatia and that is pretty much the only thing keeping us afloat, because all other industry is 99% dead.

Biggest problem is corruption overall and of course nepotism.

There is around 1 300 000 workers in Croatia, out of which 450 000 work for the country, which is an insane expense considering we're in capitalism (even though it is more like communism if you ask me).

So yeah: first summer tourist season that FLOPS = Croatia in the gutter

Personally, I want it to happen coz only then will shit start changing.

Paul Markham · 10-16-2018, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Croatia is rapidly growing in popularity for holidays.
I drove the whole coast a few years ago, looked nice.
Saw some people working at parking lots missing some parts of their body.
Nice toll roads payed by Europe and when driving them i had to pay again for them.

EU paying for things the poorer countries can't afford, don't need or charge the user for is part of the EU'as ideology. Here they paid for some of the motorways or contributed towards them. And still Czech Government operate tolls for the trucks. It's all done automatically by cameras over the motorways at regular intervals. They make a mint out of it. But it's all legal.

Unlike the endemic corruption. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26014387

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