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Old 09-21-2018, 05:40 PM   #1
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How can the US survive without immigration?

THe US dodged Spain (and the EU's) problem through IMMIGRATION... should it change course?

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Old 09-21-2018, 06:54 PM   #2
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I was watching Hughley's Netflix standup special and he made a good point....he said ,"do you want to pay 8 bucks for a strawberry?" That may be an exaggeration but he's right. Who the fuck do we think are going to be doing the jobs white people don't want to do?
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A lot of these dudes think white trash and bottom barrell integrated minorities are going to quit making bank off selling meth and heroin to Susan and Karen to pick grapes for less than minimum wage.

Them labor wages gotta hit at least ~$20 an hour with all kinds of benefits to get these folks to consider dealing with the bugs and weather and all that.

Not happening.
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:03 PM   #5
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They should have prisoners fill that labor void if they choose. As a prison job. That system all kinds of retarded, but it exists so might as well use it. Would make everybody happy. Humberto and 'nem get to stay south of the border without veggie prices going up. Prisoners get to learn a trade, make extra money, etc. We all know Cletus and 'nem ain't gon' get off they asses and pick they own grapes.
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They should have prisoners fill that labor void if they choose. As a prison job. That system all kinds of retarded, but it exists so might as well use it. Would make everybody happy. Humberto and 'nem get to stay south of the border without veggie prices going up. Prisoners get to learn a trade, make extra money, etc. We all know Cletus and 'nem ain't gon' get off they asses and pick they own grapes.
Prisoners are working for private companies more then ever before. In fact, this practice is expanding with more and more prisons being run by private companies.

Im not against this practice, but what I would worry about is private companies lobbying the government to fill more "employment" positions.
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I was watching Hughley's Netflix standup special and he made a good point....he said ,"do you want to pay 8 bucks for a strawberry?" That may be an exaggeration but he's right. Who the fuck do we think are going to be doing the jobs white people don't want to do?
It's actually a facade. Keep illegals illegal and you continue to have a slave workforce.
Corporations make money, the tax payers pay the rest.

Dumbasses think they want to kick out all the "mexicans" but then they got $8 strawberries.

That will never happen though. The fat cats that run the show are perfectly fine with illegal immigration. They love it.
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Racist liberal vermin worried about their strawberries and using illegal aliens as slaves. Democrats are disgusting.
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Racist liberal vermin worried about their strawberries and using illegal aliens as slaves. Democrats are disgusting.
Actually, this is not a WAGE ISSUE but more of a DEMOGRAPHICS issue. As the US non-immigrant birth rate continues to stay below replacement level, there's a BIG DANGER the US will turn into SPAIN where there are TONS of retirees (with benefits) and NOT ENOUGH YOUNG WORKERS to fund the system.... Watch the video to see the MANY LAYERS to this problem.

Japan's trying to solve this problem WITHOUT immigration. Net result? Avg Japanese age is 46 and government ministers publicly saying old folks should 'hurry up and die!' I'm not sure that 'solution' is viable...
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There's nothing wrong with immigration of people who at least share the values of the society they're immigrating to.

There's everything wrong with immigration, especially mass immigration like what is happening in Europe, of people who oppose all values of the society they're immigrating to, abuse it's social system and despise the culture, with zero intention of assimilating.

The US is lucky they get Mexicans. Simply because of geography the US will never ever experience mass immigration of illegals from the middle east. They are by far the worst immigrants in the entire world.
So maybe when foreign war policy changes of the US and the EU, we in Europe can have our own peaceful societies again. But that'll never happen. Europe is going to shit real fast.
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There's nothing wrong with immigration of people who at least share the values of the society they're immigrating to.

There's everything wrong with immigration, especially mass immigration like what is happening in Europe, of people who oppose all values of the society they're immigrating to, abuse it's social system and despise the culture, with zero intention of assimilating.

The US is lucky they get Mexicans. Simply because of geography the US will never ever experience mass immigration of illegals from the middle east. They are by far the worst immigrants in the entire world.
So maybe when foreign war policy changes of the US and the EU, we in Europe can have our own peaceful societies again. But that'll never happen. Europe is going to shit real fast.

Agreed with you twice today WTF ?
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Actually, this is not a WAGE ISSUE but more of a DEMOGRAPHICS issue. As the US non-immigrant birth rate continues to stay below replacement level, there's a BIG DANGER the US will turn into SPAIN where there are TONS of retirees (with benefits) and NOT ENOUGH YOUNG WORKERS to fund the system.... Watch the video to see the MANY LAYERS to this problem.

Japan's trying to solve this problem WITHOUT immigration. Net result? Avg Japanese age is 46 and government ministers publicly saying old folks should 'hurry up and die!' I'm not sure that 'solution' is viable...
We should have left them to keep China and Korea then they would not have the problem now
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Old 09-25-2018, 05:46 PM   #14
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They should have prisoners fill that labor void if they choose. As a prison job. That system all kinds of retarded, but it exists so might as well use it. Would make everybody happy. Humberto and 'nem get to stay south of the border without veggie prices going up. Prisoners get to learn a trade, make extra money, etc. We all know Cletus and 'nem ain't gon' get off they asses and pick they own grapes.
Been tried with PAROLEES in the South... Result? They'd rather go back to jail than work in the fields.

But the BIGGER ISSUE here is NOT LABOR but SOCIAL SECURITY and RETIREMENT ENTITLEMENTS ... the US needs a YOUNG workforce to pay into that PONZI , I mean, social security blanket scheme
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