lakerslive

It says

1tsp =15 calories +4g of sugar

But each 1 gram is 4 calories

So 15 + 16 is true calorie count???

HairyChick

I believe 16 calories is correct. I’ve always calculated it that way.

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lakerslive

Calorie is 15 but with the 4grams of sugar equaling to 16calories on top


So 31 calories per tsp ?

pimpmaster9000

+4grams means more than 4 and less than 5...so 16...1 calorie difference is nothing

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i cunt a4d 1 tsp of sugar...

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JesseQuinn

16 cals per teaspoon

or just avoid processed sugar altogether, it's really not healthy. eat fruit and veggies instead.

so odd, I can recall the caloric content of every packaged food or natural fruit/veg I have ever eaten for fat, carbs and calories and still remember every word of the Humpty Dance and Poison yet cannot manage to memorize the periodic tables.

165 grams of mango is 100 cals and less than 0.7 g's of fat, and never trust a big butt and a smile

never got busy in a BK bathroom but not really on my personal bucket list so oh well.

Didn't need to look up the food stuff, but beryllium? yeps :/

(Be and atomic mass 9.0122)

the mind works in mysterious ways

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pimpmaster9000

Fruit is just as bad...

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CaptainHowdy

Calorie count would make me feel like a princess. I've just stopped eating refined or natural (fruits, honey) sugar.

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JesseQuinn

a life without watermelon, mango and blueberries? cannot fathom

obv don't make them staples of one's diet but as a treat? or is walking to buy a watermelon and then carrying it home worse than buying one of the ice cream blizzard things in a car drive through?

just fucking with ya, but yeah, fruit is NOT bad. just tasty and real food. tomatoes are a fruit as well when not in ketchup-form.

everything in moderation, inlcuding moderation

(Oscar Wilde)

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pimpmaster9000

If one has a need to count calories then they should not be eating fruit because it is full of fructose...its as simple as that...why trade 1 minute of "pleasure" while you eat sugar, in exchange for your overall health?

The most disciplined person I know got to 2% body fat with a trick method tho...she loves chocolate but can not eat it while prepping for a competition...she stuffs her mouth full of chocolate and then chews it and spits it out after like 20 seconds...then rinses her mouth with water like 5x so as not to consume a single calorie from it...it works wonders for her...

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grzepa

Well not exactly, thanks to all the fiber in fruit it's easier for body to deal with the sugar. Also we've been eating fruit since adam and eve, and processed sugar is a bit different thing. The work needed to make white sugar from for example beetroot is more like It's like coke leaves and cocaine.

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JesseQuinn

I love thin bodies but even I find that terrifyingly low. 2% body fat? That kills people.

that's called an eating disorder.

no judgment, but that is what it is. not sure if this is still the case but eons ago when I DJ'ed in a strip club two body builder competitors (they cleaned up on cash when they worked and were really wicked chicas) whom I met that danced there confided that eating disorders are endemic in body-building, esp for women.

I personally count calories as it prevents anxiety as I am neurotic as fuck, but would think any doc in the world would rec eating some watermelon or mango over the behavior you describe above.

I hope your friend is safe and can create some more healthy methods of maintaining her weight. What you describe will kill her.

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loreen

Oh, that's just terrible

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pimpmaster9000

this is not true...fruit is in season only 1x/year and commercial production did not exist...we had limited access to a limited number of fruits and none of it was a staple in our diet...

fruit is sweet for a reason...fructose...it makes animals want to eat the fruit and spread the seeds through their droppings...fruit is almost like a trap...if you want nutrients, veggies have more...but fruit is sweet...


I think one dies at 4% if it is kept long term...2% is almost unheard of, and we are talking about her whole body average, on some parts she had less...it was just for competition, she is a fitness competitor who enjoys getting in shape for competition and after the event she returned back to around 10% and this is still very lean...2% made her face look weird...its amazing how much fat we store in our body...

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bronco67

No it's not. The sugar in fruit is good for you. Like all things, it contributes to calorie counts but it's good to have fruit even when trying to lose weight.

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pimpmaster9000

why would I eat fruit when I can get more nutrients from vegetables with much less insulin spike? how is eating a less nutrient dense, fructose filled fruit, beneficial?

insulin is the ONLY hormone in the body responsible for gaining fat...why spike it at all?...

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Constant Phil

I guess you dont have many bodybuilding friends. Many of us, myself included eat plenty of fruit/carbs and sit at single digit bf %'s year round.

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Same here. I maintain around 10 to 12% body fat and eat grapes, grapefruit, oranges, cantaloupe, etc. But I make sure I stay within a calorie target range.

These people demonizing sugar have been brainwashed.

I even have cupcakes and ice cream. Not that I think it's good for me physically, but it's good for the mental part of staying in shape. You need to fuck up once in a while to keep the diet going long term.

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pimpmaster9000

so you all look like this all year? kudos to you then...

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One teaspoon of sugar is 15 calories and 4 grams of carbohydrates in which all 4 grams are derived from sugars. 1% of our daily value of carbs.

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dyna mo

holy shit you're a massive fucking idiot to make such a ridiculous claim.

Constant Phil

Yes as a matter of fact I do...Its not that hard its called eating consistently.



This is 4 days into a cruise while I was eating and drinking...not that hard...oh noes sugars!!!

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pimpmaster9000

sugars are bad and I can explain in detail...

there are people who tolerate sugars very very well...they never get fat no matter what they eat + they work out...calories in vs. calories out always applies...

also people like bodybuilders, powerlifers etc may have special performance needs, carbs may be essential for their peak performance, however the health part is disputable...



so why are fruit and sugars bad?

well most of the population has some extra fat and would like to get rid of it...generally speaking, there is only 1 thing that makes you fat: insulin...there is only 1 thing that significantly spikes insulin: carbs (some more, some less...protein and fat does not give you such a spike)

homo sapiens was not made to spike insulin 3x/day with carbs...we have been eating like this for the last 200 years max...carbs are a CHEAP and COMMERCIAL source of energy...wheat, corn, rice, sugars, fruit...so it is only natural that the population turned to them and only natural that governments promote production...they are however bad for us because they fuck with the insulin and fat and sick homo sapiens are the proof that is in the pudding...insulin blocks leptin...leptin is the satiety hormone...it turns off hunger...blocked leptin = more hunger = more food = more insulin = blocked leptin and so on...this is why MOST people get fat...

MOST people do not lose weight and fail at diets and restricting calories because of the above...you can NOT eat sugars/fruit/carbs and not have cravings...you can not stay on low cal or controlled calorie diets as easy because of the above...insulin spike = more hunger...if you have cravings you are doing something wrong...

so what is the solution? = do not fuck yourself with bad carbs...do not eat fruit...avoid all fructose, avoid all bad carbs...


now somebody can either show me what nutrients are in fruit that are not in veggies or they do not know what they are saying...somebody can explain in detail why sugars and bad carbs are a good idea when you can easily lose weight with keto...no huger = no problem....YES you will lose weight with calorie restricted diets, no doubt...but why take the inferior and harder approach? makes no sense at all...

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Constant Phil

You make this too easy....Berries. Have exponentially more antioxidants than vegetables.

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dyna mo

Dumbfuck serbie, plenty of vegetables have fructose, and more fructose than plenty of fruit. Ever heard of a carrot. Moreover, you fail to realize fiber in fruit and vegetables slows absorbtion.

Constant Phil

Asparagus, artichokes, peas, etc, etc. Heaven forbid anyone do a google search before blasting out their own consensus of end all be all nutrition.

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pimpmaster9000

ok reading problem boy...focus your unused brain on the BAD CARBS part...this includes veggies with bad carbs but specifically covers ALL FRUIT...furthermore, you fail to realize that speed of absorption is not important when insulin is low...

you fail at concentration and basic reading because of the carbs

not the only source of anti oxidants...berries have 10mmlol per 100g but dark 100% or 95% coco chololate has 15...pecans have the same as berries...but no carbs...

you will find lots of veggies with high sugars...do not eat them...what I said is not my opinion it is just fact...sugars are bad for most people...there is no reason to consume most of them...

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dyna mo

the nonsense that serbie clown posts. jtfc.

Constant Phil

Can we get a photo of your physique for reference? Its one thing to talk to the talk but lets see how lean you are with those lack of sugars. Also what denotes a "bad carb" seems like any and all carbs are bad in your opinion besides fiber.

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dyna mo

wait, now we're not supposed to eat carrots and peas, according to dumb serbie.

ahahahahah jtfc.

Constant Phil

I didnt say only source...i said berries have MORE than most. Lol enjoy eating 100G of 100% coaco...that sounds brilliant and disgusting all at the same time.

A pecan isnt a vegetable, its the fruit of a tree..so yea thanks for proving my point

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you are asking a hyperactive ectomorph with super fast metabolism, who can not gain fat to save his own life, to post proof of something that has nothing at all to do with this or his physique...how would a picture of me make me more right?...this is not about what works for me or you it is about the basic principle that sugars are bad and I have posted factual evidence to support this claim...

what possible reason could you have to consume bad carbs?...you either have a great reason or there is a problem with your theory...

the only carbs you should eat are green leafy veggies like kale,spinach,green salads, lettuce, broccoli,cabbage, celery also asparagus and cauliflower and in moderation avocado and zuchinni...lemon is OK and so is lime...YES the above veggies do have SOME carbs but they are low and SLOW...low slow carbs = low insulin...this is not even up for discussion it is the most basic of nutritional info...


and I did not say you said that... I pointed out that berries are not the only source...we do not need berries...

100% coco chololate was not tasty for me when I first tried it...I LOVE milk chocolate...but the brain decides what is tasty and what is not...I first started with darker chololate that had say 50%-60% cacao...it was not as tasty as milk chocolate but in time my body started to ask more...I moved up to 70-80% and found it more palatable for some reason (the brain decides)...then i move to 95% because 100% is kinda hard to come by in my shit hole country...my brain decided it liked the 95% cacao version better than milk chocolate...I have not purchased milk chocolate in years, I buy dark 95% that sits right next to it...

you have no choice...the brain decides....

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dyna mo

Wait, the self proclaimed big bad MMA superstar is now a scrawny beanpole. Ahahaha. That's convenient.

Constant Phil

Im well aware of dark chocolates and their tastes. Dark chocolate is an acquired taste that also comes with age and maturity. Like most bitter things.

Lets see your extreme ecto body. Lets see this science in motion.

I do keto several times a year and have reaped the benefits of it. In fact its brought to my attention that I cant consume complex carbs through process of elimination (Extreme IBS). Simple sugars are what my body agrees with so thats what I fuel it with. I tried sticking with keto while BBing for extended periods of time but it didnt work out too well. I need those carbs for the energy source, squatting and deadlifting for hours absolutely floors me. 2 hours Pre, during, and 1hr post workout are the only times I eat carbs.

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pimpmaster9000

no I just do not gain fat...this does not mean I do not have muscle mass...

@phil

what does my naturally low body fat have to do with this topic?...I tried eating ice cream, cake and potato chips for months and still had paper thin skin...how would a pic of me prove me "right"? explain this and I will post no problem...

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Constant Phil

Ahh youre one of those guys who says he can eat everything but the kitchen sink and doesnt gain weight. Going against all laws of thermodynamics. Yea i was that guy...120lbs soaking wet. You know what I did...I started eating more than my maintenance cals and gained weight.

Instead of the back and forth just post a pic of your body, you seem to be proud of what you do and how you eat so lets see what naturally low BF is. 12%? 10%? what is "naturally low"

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the laws of thermodynamics always apply, it is only a question of how many calories my body actually uses/stores and what passes right through...michael phelps supposedly consumed 10K calories per day but you can not possibly spend 10K...the same laws of thermodynamics apply to him...

I am 46 years old and probably around 210lb @6'3 and lets say 10%...I am very very lean for my age and it has nothing to do with what I eat...

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dyna mo

phelps eats closer to 6k cals per day and burns 1k cals per hour training and he trains 6+ hours a day.

Constant Phil

Do you have any idea of the amount of energy is expanded when youre swimming? He most certainly burns all those calories and glycogen. 1 hour of swimming will spend about 700-1000 calories lol. You legit have no clue what youre talking about. Im 5'7 185lbs and eat 4500 calories a day and I dont swim for 3-4 hours a day. You have shown time and time again that you do not know squat about nutrition.

Youre very lean and it has nothing to do with what you eat...youre absolutely right /sarcasm

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quote phelps:

"During my prime, I was probably really eating eight to ten [thousand calories per day]. But that was the most, and that was when I was in high school and still growing."

he does not swim for all 6 hours @1000 cal/hour...all olympians cross train...he does dry land workouts as well as non swimming stuff in the pool...

just to put things in perspective, phelps with his weight would burn 20 calories per minute if he sprinted or ran as fast as he possibly can...this is 1200 cal per hour...forget about the 1000 cal per hour for 6 hours...just forget about it




you absorb only a portion of the nutrients in your food...google it...

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bronco67

Does anyone in here know more than Layne Norton about this subject? I'll bet someone will act like he does.

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dyna mo

experts have confirmed it's virtually impossible to consume 10k cal/day. they've analyzed his diet and concluded he exaggerated a bit in the interview and his diet is much closer to 6k cal/day. also, experts have analyzed his workout routine and concluded he's burning ~1k per hour of training.


let's not forget, you're the guy exclaiming fruit and vegetables are bad.

the fucking btc oracle, the mma master, the world educated insulin junkie serb thinks carrots and peas are bad for you. holy shit. no wonder you hate America.

pimpmaster9000

search youtube: 10.000 calorie challenge

then...

search youtube: 10.000 calorie in one hour challenge

then...

search youtube: 20.000 calorie challenge

i did not bother watching the 50K calorie or the 100K calorie but the others were kinda interesting...




fruit is bad for you btw...

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pimpmaster9000

wassup "experts"?

they musta' googled "do you absorb all the calories you eat" and found that absorption rates go from 10-90% depending on a ton of factors...

awkward...

oh and 1000cal per hour?

thats swimming the breast stroke for 60min non stop...so in phelpses case he would have to swim the breast stroke for 6 hours daily, every day, to burn 6000cal

yeah...that did not happen LOL...

so again...I am right and the "experts" are wrong...especially dynamo...he has a "I like to be wrong" fetish

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PornDiscounts-V

Except that it has unprocessed sugars so your body has to burn calories to use it and it has fiber so you get full.

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Constant Phil

Youre telling me things I already know man. Youre no expert. Ive been doing this for close to 15 years now...this is pretty common knowledge. There are so many different factors involved in there neither you or myself could come to any conclusion about someone elses diet, training, etc. I know what works for me and I proved that I can be single digit BF while not looking like a carb depleted, flat, emaciated human and still eating carbs.sugar! Whahooo!!!

Perhaps you should consider eatting some carbs and you wont be a super skinny "extreme ecto" as you call it. Still waiting for proof of that and your super lean-ness. Youre prob skinny fat with 0 muscle.

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dyna mo

Dear fruit is bad for you dingdong, Phelps diet doesn't consist of fucking donuts and candy bars. Obviously, the fucking point was how difficult it would be to consume 10k healthy cals daily.

Fruit is bad for you. Ahahaha.

Constant Phil

@dynamo according to his logic we wont absorb all the sugar from the fruit we eat so I guess thats a plus right?

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dyna mo

fruit is bad for you.................

i'm going to giggle over that one for a while. and rub it in!

poor serbie.