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Old 09-12-2018, 08:47 PM   #1
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Manafort's gonna sing!

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The weird part about the manafort sitch is the he and his team strongly requested his charges be split up and tried in two cases. Even the judge noted the peculiarity.
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But sadly not about Chump !
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LOL moron. His charges are while doing work for Obama and Hillary in Ukraine.. Who do you think he sings on?
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LOL moron. His charges are while doing work for Obama and Hillary in Ukraine.. Who do you think he sings on?
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"Manafort is discussing possible plea deal with Mueller but doesn't want to flip on president"

Mr Manafort, the way a plea deal works is: you flip, then you get what you want. You don't get off free by keeping your mouth shut. This is a fucking guy who has skated through life committing crimes with impunity. This whole situation must be very inconvenient for him.
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"Manafort is discussing possible plea deal with Mueller but doesn't want to flip on president"

Mr Manafort, the way a plea deal works is: you flip, then you get what you want. You don't get off free by keeping your mouth shut. This is a fucking guy who has skated through life committing crimes with impunity. This whole situation must be very inconvenient for him.
Isn't this just typical of these fools.. Umm yea I want a plea deal but I don't wanna tell you anything you want..

umm no dumb ass it don't work that way... seriously how dumb are these right wingers, they live in a fairy tale land in their imagination..
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"Manafort is discussing possible plea deal with Mueller but doesn't want to flip on president"

Mr Manafort, the way a plea deal works is: you flip, then you get what you want. You don't get off free by keeping your mouth shut. This is a fucking guy who has skated through life committing crimes with impunity. This whole situation must be very inconvenient for him.
You guys were saying the same thing about papadopoulos -- how'd that work out for you? lol
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i'm now doubting manafort's flipping.

I don't think he can flip, he's beholden to too many ruskie mobsters who would be implicated.
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i'm now doubting manafort's flipping.

I don't think he can flip, he's beholden to too many ruskie mobsters who would be implicated.
They said before that there are too many state DA's that want to charge him that the feds couldn't get him a plea deal if he wanted it. the feds can't stop states from charging him.
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Eventually he will sing. I was surprised he lasted this long to be hones with you. I think he was counting on Trump giving him a pardon. But he is now in prison, and facing yet another trial. I am sure they have made it clear to him that in the event Trump give him a pardon, they will just turn around and file other local and state charges. He has lost everything he has, is currently in prison, and there is no end in sight.

Trump seems to misunderstand how loyalty works. It's one thing to to lie to local law enforcement, or fudge the law here and there. It's another thing when you are facing a decade of being ass raped in a federal prison.
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They said before that there are too many state DA's that want to charge him that the feds couldn't get him a plea deal if he wanted it. the feds can't stop states from charging him.
I have a hard time believing that he couldn't get a federal deal on account of that.

he's not getting a deal because he's refusing to cooperate. I think the reason he's refusing to cooperate is because he's tied to russian mobsters that can do harm to his family etc.

remember, he was not only dead broke when he volunteered to be trump's campaign manager, it was worse, he was and is indebted to russian mobsters for millions and millions of dollars.
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I have a hard time believing that he couldn't get a federal deal on account of that.

he's not getting a deal because he's refusing to cooperate. I think the reason he's refusing to cooperate is because he's tied to russian mobsters that can do harm to his family etc.

remember, he was not only dead broke when he volunteered to be trump's campaign manager, it was worse, he was and is indebted to russian mobsters for millions and millions of dollars.
He wasn't broke..

So how much is Manafort's net worth?

Accusations of nefarious financial activity make it difficult to pinpoint a number, but in March of 2017, anti-money laundering expert Ross Delston estimated that Manafort was worth more than $50 million, based on the fact that he was buying multi-million dollar real estate in New York City with cash and then taking out loans against these properties.

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/so...ort-net-worth/


Even during the trial it was admitted he was at like 50-60% LTV on the loans he took out..
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The loony leftists are SO gullible. He won't "sing" because there's nothing to tell. I'm sure you leftards would like him to make up a bunch of stuff about Trump- that won't happen.

Onwebcam is correct as usual- he will testify against Tony Podesta and other shady Democrats. Good luck with that

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He wasn't broke..

So how much is Manafort's net worth?

Accusations of nefarious financial activity make it difficult to pinpoint a number, but in March of 2017, anti-money laundering expert Ross Delston estimated that Manafort was worth more than $50 million, based on the fact that he was buying multi-million dollar real estate in New York City with cash and then taking out loans against these properties.

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/so...ort-net-worth/


Even during the trial it was admitted he was at like 50-60% LTV on the loans he took out..
you're right, he wasn't broke. it was worse than broke, he was on the hook for millions and millions of loans from ruski mobsters.
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But sadly not about Chump !
Not yet...! but he is already been asked to. I think he'll sing, sing sing about the Chump in Chief soon.

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LOL moron. His charges are while doing work for Obama and Hillary in Ukraine.. Who do you think he sings on?
Trump of course!

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The loony leftists are SO gullible. He won't "sing" because there's nothing to tell.
Acepimp, Trump would be caught red-handed doing a crime and you would still let him go. Don't talk to anyone about being gullible. Your praise and love for the con man in chief completely clouds your judgement.
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here's my other concern about manafort flipping:

why would mueller need manafort now? I've gotta believe mueller is crystal clear at this point on trump's nefarious dealings and felonious activities. Send Manafort up the river.
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I have a hard time believing that he couldn't get a federal deal on account of that.
This is True. I believe if he really had dirt on Trump he could make a plea with Mueller and he could assure him no states will charge him. Not to say you couldn't have an overzealous state DA that would try to charge him anyways, but those federal courts always Trump state courts and they usually fall in like with whatever the USAG tells them.

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he's not getting a deal because he's refusing to cooperate. I think the reason he's refusing to cooperate is because he's tied to russian mobsters that can do harm to his family etc.

remember, he was not only dead broke when he volunteered to be trump's campaign manager, it was worse, he was and is indebted to russian mobsters for millions and millions of dollars.
IMO why go through a whole trial only to be found guilty...then flip? That's now how it works.
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IMO why go through a whole trial only to be found guilty...then flip? That's now how it works.
I tend to agree. I get the feeling now that this is simply a guilty plea deal only. Mueller doesn't need him or want him and he wouldn't flip anyway. but a guilty plea will reduce his sentence somewhat and also send a "pardon me" message to trump. imo.
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You guys were saying the same thing about papadopoulos -- how'd that work out for you? lol

There's a huge difference between lying during questioning vs working as a traitor against your country and money laundering (and that's just the tip of the iceberg).


Papadapolous was just a guy who got drunk and said the wrong thing. And you're a fucking moron.

Why are you so intent on seeing treasonous criminals set free? Are you that ethically and morally corrupt?

You're a piece of shit. Remember that when you look in the mirror tonight before you lay your pimply face on your cum soaked pillow.
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I stand corrected, manafort agreed to cooperate as a part of his guilty plea:

Manafort's plea deal with Mueller, which dramatically ramps up the legal and political danger already facing Trump, came just three days before Manafort was set to begin jury selection for the second of his two federal criminal trials.

Prosecutors said the deal includes a 17-page cooperation agreement with Mueller.
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The loony leftists are SO gullible. He won't "sing" because there's nothing to tell.
You were saying?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/14/polit...lea/index.html

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I stand corrected, manafort agreed to cooperate as a part of his guilty plea:

Manafort's plea deal with Mueller, which dramatically ramps up the legal and political danger already facing Trump, came just three days before Manafort was set to begin jury selection for the second of his two federal criminal trials.

Prosecutors said the deal includes a 17-page cooperation agreement with Mueller.
Do you guys really think he's going to reveal some Russian collusion conspiracy evidence? With the way this investigation is going I bet anything his cooperation has to do with ratting out people involved with money laundering or whatever schemes he was involved in.
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Trumps phones been taken off him I think.

btw Trumplets.. one of the agreements of this plea deal was to give up $46 million in his assets. This investigation cost $30 million, this "Witch Hunt" turned a profit.
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Do you guys really think he's going to reveal some Russian collusion conspiracy evidence? With the way this investigation is going I bet anything his cooperation has to do with ratting out people involved with money laundering or whatever schemes he was involved in.
that means trump. Seems clear to me that trump has been laundering ruskie mob money for a while now.
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You were saying?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/14/polit...lea/index.html

It's ok Ace, we forgive you.
Correction: It's special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election AND RELATED MATTERS

Mark, read the rest of the article:

President Donald Trump is not mentioned in Friday's filing, nor is Manafort's role in his campaign. White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said, "This had absolutely nothing to do with the President or his victorious 2016 Presidential campaign. It is totally unrelated."

When will you realize that Manafort's case is about crimes 10 years ago working with the Podesta Group lobbying firm. (why did Tony P resign and then dissolve his company?)


MANAFORT INDICTMENT ALSO IMPLICATES TONY PODESTA, THE CLINTON-CONNECTED SUPERLOBBYIST


Despite what the Democrat-controlled media says, it's simply unrelated to Trump or his campaign. He won, buddy, it's time to accept it & move on.

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note that by agreeing to cooperate, manafort has made sure that trump will not pardon him. based on that, he must have some compelling info for Mueller.
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note that by agreeing to cooperate, manafort has made sure that trump will not pardon him. based on that, he must have some compelling info for Mueller.
He does have info, just not about Trump

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He does have info, just not about Trump

we'll see, you may be right. The charges against him go up to and through 2015, just a few months prior to his signing on as campaign chair. It's not inconceivable he was in cahoots with the trump campaign to use ruskie money. that is what he and trump are known for.
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So he made a deal and he will be cooperating with the Justice Department. LOL. So much for loyalty.

They have him over a barrel. He has to cooperate, and then at a "later date" they will decide on his punishment. He either works with them completely, or spends the rest of his life in prison.

Notice now that two people who were in this famous "Trump Tower Meeting" are now cooperating with Mueller. LOL. Does anyone really think that meeting was about adaptions? I am starting to wonder if that meeting is they key to everything. Think about it... George Papadopoulos, through his Russian contact in London (which no one has seen or heard from in months) set up this meeting. During this meeting with all of the top officials of the Trump campaign the Russian government laid out it's plan on how they have the emails, how they can help with social media, how they can pass money over the Trump campaign - and what they wanted in return.

Roger Stone might also be involved too.

Next up is Trump Junior. They are going to pull him for more questioning, then charge him with lying. That will be the opening salvo - but just the start.

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We don't know if he has any direct dirt on Trump....but one thing which will be very interesting to the entire "Russia" situation will be the "WHY".


Why and how did Manafort end up as the campaign chairman of the Trump campaign? When that question is finally answered it will open many doors.
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note that by agreeing to cooperate, manafort has made sure that trump will not pardon him. based on that, he must have some compelling info for Mueller.
Mueller wouldn't accept a plea deal from him if he had nothing to tell.
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Mueller wouldn't accept a plea deal from him if he had nothing to tell.
My hunch is Mueller already knows and has everything , manafort can corroborate that as well as perhaps fill in some blank space. But I'm certain the mueller caseS against trump and the trump family international criminal enterprise are already strong.
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A few days ago Chump said this!

I feel very badly for Paul Manafort and his wonderful family. “Justice” took a 12 year old tax case, among other things, applied tremendous pressure on him and, unlike Michael Cohen, he refused to “break” - make up stories in order to get a “deal.” Such respect for a brave man!


Now lets see the idiot in chief flip flop and totally lie again. Only a moron would trust this fool Chump.
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We don't know if he has any direct dirt on Trump....but one thing which will be very interesting to the entire "Russia" situation will be the "WHY".
If he doesn't have any dirt or any information about collusion with the Russian government, would Mueller even consider making any kind of a deal?

Let's just assume there was absolutely no collusion with the Russian government, and they acted purely on their own without any knowledge by anyone on the Trump campaign. Who would Manafort testify against? Donald Trump Jr.? Eric Trump? Ivanka Trump? Other than Roger Stone, it seems like everyone else on the Trump campaign has either been found guilty of a crime, or pleaded guilty of a crime. Other than Roger Stone and the Trump family itself, there is no one left to go after.

Here is what I think is happening.... I think that Trump Tower meeting was much more important than any of us can imagine. This is why there has been so many lies about it from the very start. I think this is when they finalized their plans between the Russian government and the Trump campaign. It's possible the Russians went home, filed their reports, and they were mostly likely read by the CIA before they were read by their bosses in Russia. Mueller went to Cohen and said "This is what we know" and that's why he plead guilty to the minor charges and then agreed to cooperate. Mueller went to Manafort and said "This what we know about the meeting, and this is what Cohen told us, so play ball or we send you to prison for the rest of your life AND take away every dime your family has". Manafort is singing like a bird.

We already know there was collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government.

This is fact. George Papadopoulos was communicating between a Russian agent in London and bringing it directly to Jeff Sessions - You know, the guy who lied under oath about having contact when the Russians when the truth was he had met with the Russian ambassador multiple times under mysterious circumstances.

This is all a nothing burger, right? If that is the case then there is nothing to worry about at all.

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He does have info, just not about Trump

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/14/polit...lea/index.html



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Oh fucking hell, that's pretty epic.. lol they even added graffiti on the wall...
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Manafort has agreed to testify against his co-conspirators regarding his dealings in Ukraine... IE Podesta Group.... His contract specifically stated he wasn't operating as their lobbyist which is why the FARA charges were dropped. Out of the 7 charges he only plead to 1. 1 additional charge was added which he plead to, obstruction..

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Manafort has agreed to testify against his co-conspirators regarding his dealings in Ukraine... IE Podesta Group.... AND? His contract specifically stated he wasn't operating as their lobbyist which is why the FARA charges were dropped.

you are so fucking in the dark. Do you realize Mueller already knows everything about Russian collusion with the Trump campaign? Manafort will only be corroborating and confirming evidence. You live in a fantasy world.

Once this is all over we're only going to have confirmed what is obvious....that Russia installed our current president and rubes like you are helping him perpetuate the heist of our democracy. Asshole.

I hope Devin Nunes gets strung up by his nutsack because there's a record of his interference runs for the president. Reckoning will come eventually.
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you are so fucking in the dark. Do you realize Mueller already knows everything about Russian collusion with the Trump campaign? Manafort will only be corroborating and confirming evidence. You live in a fantasy world.

Once this is all over we're only going to have confirmed what is obvious....that Russia installed our current president and rubes like you are helping him perpetuate the heist of our democracy. Asshole.

I hope Devin Nunes gets strung up by his nutsack because there's a record of his interference runs for the president. Reckoning will come eventually.
"Paul Manafort's cooperation agreement with the special counsel does not include matters involving the Trump campaign, according to a person familiar with the case, @johnson_carrie reports."

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1040641168378347520

^Reported right your from batshit crazy lib NPR

bahahaha as usual you guys are wrong.
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you are so fucking in the dark. Do you realize Mueller already knows everything about Russian collusion with the Trump campaign? Manafort will only be corroborating and confirming evidence. You live in a fantasy world.

Once this is all over we're only going to have confirmed what is obvious....that Russia installed our current president and rubes like you are helping him perpetuate the heist of our democracy. Asshole.

I hope Devin Nunes gets strung up by his nutsack because there's a record of his interference runs for the president. Reckoning will come eventually.
Read the fucking plea agreement..

This is an example of what they are looking into (actually from the plea deal) grant it since they know everyone will be reading the plea this is likely the small potato's.. Notice that "D1?" That's an already indicted unnamed "Defendant" > "Defendant 1"

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"Paul Manafort's cooperation agreement with the special counsel does not include matters involving the Trump campaign, according to a person familiar with the case, @johnson_carrie reports."

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1040641168378347520

^Reported right your from batshit crazy lib NPR

bahahaha as usual you guys are wrong.
You guys always manage to leave out pertinent information that helps your stupid argument.

The tweet was updated later to this:
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IMPORTANT NEW addition: plea agreement requires Manafort to cooperate "in any and all matter as to which the government deems the cooperation relevant" including full, complete testimony to the grand jury in DC

Do you see the phrase "in any and all matters" ?????
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Once again... this has nothing to do with Trump. Trump campaign. The Election or Russia. If anything Manafort has screwed Tony Podesta... but you guys can't talk about that because... well, you know,... muh narrative!

Now Mueller is looking at charging Obamas former White House counsel for his role. But... you know... can't talk about that because,... muh narrative! Abuses of power by the FBI and Strzok come out almost daily... but you know,... muh narrative!

And of course there are all the obvious facts... all of the investigation centers on a dossier paid for Hillary Clinton and her campaign, full of fake info, created by a discredited source and where the FBI said they couldn't trust it... yet used it to apply for FISA warrants to spy on Americans... etc etc etc etc etc etc... but no worries. Cause... Trump Bad.

but yeah... any day now... any day now... for sure.

You guys are so trapped in your own bubble of denial that you have no clue how much horrible evidence comes out against the FBI almost daily now and you don't care. You don't care about our institutions or even the rule of law. You don't care if the country burns to the ground cuz "hate Trump". Tom Fitten from Judicial Watch digs up aweful shit almost daily about abuses of power from the FBI with regard to Strzok/Page, Rosenstein and Mueller. But then again, you dont care because its not the law you actually give a shit about.

it's insane.
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Once again... this has nothing to do with Trump.
Once again, you are a fucking idiot foreigner.

When will GFY have the majority AMERICANS posting about American politics again? Now it's a 20/80 spread Americans to Eastern European foreigners spread.
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Do you realize Mueller already knows everything about Russian collusion with the Trump campaign? Manafort will only be corroborating and confirming evidence. You live in a fantasy world.
^^ This is unverified conspiracy theory. Let's wait for all the facts to come out.

So far all of these "convictions" are unrelated to Trump's campaign.

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Once again, you are a fucking idiot foreigner.

When will GFY have the majority AMERICANS posting about American politics again? Now it's a 20/80 spread Americans to Eastern European foreigners spread.
The best part about your daily effort to shout down discussion, to act out in hysterics, to post dozens of retarded videos and pics rather than actually invest the mental energy in an argument is no different than that of MarkPrince, Bladefred, crocketscience or bronco.... is that you guys literally spend your days alienating and pushing away moderate Democrat voters and push them to the other side.

Its a beautiful plan you guys have with your hysteria, daily fake news and constant feigned outrage and virtue signaling. It's working well.

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You guys always manage to leave out pertinent information that helps your stupid argument.

The tweet was updated later to this:
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IMPORTANT NEW addition: plea agreement requires Manafort to cooperate "in any and all matter as to which the government deems the cooperation relevant" including full, complete testimony to the grand jury in DC

Do you see the phrase "in any and all matters" ?????
Wrong now just like you have been about every prediction for the past 2 years.

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I want to be the first conservative thinking person to say "I sincerely love the far Left right now". Congrats. Your own behavior has pushed you right out of state and the federal government... and the Supreme Court.

Your behavior will be what gets Trump elected again. Though I don't really like the thought of that, you guys make it look much better than any other alternative right now.
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