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Old 09-11-2018, 10:59 AM   #1
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I don't understand people who live in hurricane areas

Every time there is a hurricane they always show stores with empty shelves.... Don't these people prepare for these kinds of events?

If you told me there was going to be a hurricane and I would unable to leave my house, and we would have no power, we would be fine. We have enough water and power for the three of us for a week. We even have these "Everyready" laterns and tons of batteries to run them.

These people know it's gong to happen to them - why don't they prepare for it?
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Says the guy who lives in earthquake and forest fire areas
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With a hurricane it's not an instant thing. One afternoon it doesn't just suddenly appear. Having some extra supplies on hand is always a good idea, but if a hurricane is coming, you have plenty of time to prepare. Personally, instead of having a full pantry, I would make sure to have a "get the fuck out" kit. I would save enough money and have it and some basic things set aside so if a hurricane headed my way I could grab my kit, get in the car and not stop driving for until I was well out of its path.
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Says the guy who lives in earthquake and forest fire areas
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Every time there is a hurricane they always show stores with empty shelves.... Don't these people prepare for these kinds of events?

If you told me there was going to be a hurricane and I would unable to leave my house, and we would have no power, we would be fine. We have enough water and power for the three of us for a week. We even have these "Everyready" laterns and tons of batteries to run them.

These people know it's gong to happen to them - why don't they prepare for it?
You know the wild fire is coming so why don't you ever have enough water stored to put it out?

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Every time there is a hurricane they always show stores with empty shelves.... Don't these people prepare for these kinds of events?

If you told me there was going to be a hurricane and I would unable to leave my house, and we would have no power, we would be fine. We have enough water and power for the three of us for a week. We even have these "Everyready" laterns and tons of batteries to run them.

These people know it's gong to happen to them - why don't they prepare for it?
To run the generator needed to handle that takes roughly 30 gallons of gasoline per day. Are you really suggesting you have 4+ 55 gallons barrels of gasoline stashed away at your home?
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Says the guy who lives in earthquake and forest fire areas
Okay, great point. During the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake I lived in Pleasanton, California, about sixty miles from Oakland and San Fancisco. We went three or four days with no power. I was aware of earthquakes and prepared for it. When the power went out the first thing we did was raided the fridge. We figured power would be out for a while so if we didn't eat what was in there right away it would just go bad. The first night we steaks we cooked on the BBQ. Over the next few days we had canned goods, and even back then we kept a lot of bottled water.

A lot of my friends were worried because they didn't have much food on hand. Not me. I was ready.
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most of your population lives on a coastline somewhere. Almost every square inch is subject to severe weather.

What magical "safeland" are you even referring to here?

You live in an area that is susceptible to massive earthquakes, catastrophic forest fires and one major power outage from losing access to water. I think your safety bubble is entirely imaginary in your case...
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Richard, aren't you surrounded by the Sacramento River valley levee system? I hope your preparedness plans and supplies accounts for flooding, like hurricane level flooding, because thoae levees will fail.
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With a hurricane it's not an instant thing. One afternoon it doesn't just suddenly appear. Having some extra supplies on hand is always a good idea, but if a hurricane is coming, you have plenty of time to prepare. Personally, instead of having a full pantry, I would make sure to have a "get the fuck out" kit. I would save enough money and have it and some basic things set aside so if a hurricane headed my way I could grab my kit, get in the car and not stop driving for until I was well out of its path.
I have a "go kit". A few years ago here in my hometown we had a "propane train fire" where 2/3 of the town was evacuated. It was a mess - suddenly without warning people had to leave their houses. Since then I've had a "go kit" - mostly just a few bags with clothes, socks, etc.

I just updated it too. My kid is leaving for college and will be in Southern California, about six hours drive time away. In the event of an emergency - such as my kid being in an accident or rushed to the hospital - I am ready to go at a moment's notice. I even have charging cords for my cell and my laptop ready.
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To run the generator needed to handle that takes roughly 30 gallons of gasoline per day. Are you really suggesting you have 4+ 55 gallons barrels of gasoline stashed away at your home?
Why would I need a generator? We can go without power for a few days.
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most of your population lives on a coastline somewhere. Almost every square inch is subject to severe weather.

What magical "safeland" are you even referring to here?

You live in an area that is susceptible to massive earthquakes, catastrophic forest fires and one major power outage from losing access to water. I think your safety bubble is entirely imaginary in your case...
I live in Northern California near Sacramento. We don't have earthquakes here.

Fires are a constant danger.
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Richard, aren't you surrounded by the Sacramento River valley levee system? I hope your preparedness plans and supplies accounts for flooding, like hurricane level flooding, because thoae levees will fail.
Well, there is only so much you can do... Short of buying a small boat, there isn't much we can do. I don't know anything about the Sacramento River valley levee system, but I believe it's far enough away so that it's not an issue for me.

With that said... We did have a problem last year with the Oroville Dam and they expected it to fail, and 180k people were evacuated. It was a mess. All of the freeways were bumper to bumper. We were about twenty miles outside of the evacuation zone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oroville_Dam_crisis
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Why would I need a generator? We can go without power for a few days.
I had gotten the impression you were more prepared than just raiding the fridge and and then eating whatever canned food is in the pantry when that runs out. A generator is a part of a smart plan. They've got family emergency food kits at Sam's club and Costco.

water for 3 people 5 days.........
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I live in Northern California near Sacramento. We don't have earthquakes here.

Fires are a constant danger.
umm, well, Richard............you have a greater likelihood than Los Angeles and LA County for a 7+ quake within the next 30 years.

You also have the additional risks of:

LANDSLIDES, LIQUEFACTION, & LEVEE FAILURE


https://www.earthquakeauthority.com/...ults-By-County

seriously.
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umm, well, Richard............you have a greater likelihood than Los Angeles and LA County for a 7+ quake within the next 30 years.

You also have the additional risks of:

LANDSLIDES, LIQUEFACTION, & LEVEE FAILURE


https://www.earthquakeauthority.com/...ults-By-County

seriously.
Yeah, um.... No matter what area you input on that site it comes up with the same percentage.

Even if we do, we are prepared.
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I had gotten the impression you were more prepared than just raiding the fridge and and then eating whatever canned food is in the pantry when that runs out. A generator is a part of a smart plan. They've got family emergency food kits at Sam's club and Costco.

water for 3 people 5 days.........
We keep canned food, water, sterno to cook with. We can live without power. We had power go out for about four hours last month, and that's when I went out and laterns. We'll live.

But I won't be running to the store last minute to buy stuff.

My point is.... People need to be more prepared. No matter where you live something can happen. Hurricane, earthquake, a dam you never heard of failing, a propane train fire... Eventually some day you might need to be required to shelter in place or evacuate. My household is prepared for both. These people who live in hurricane zones know it's coming - if not this year, then next year, or the year after that. My lord.... Make a list of what you might need and start stocking up.

People are just lazy.
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Carbon filter, freeze dried food, lighters and toilet paper. Take a lesson from boater trash: that's really all you ever need as far as a bugout kit goes. A suture kit is nice, but as long as you're not bleeding out, isn't technically a requirement.
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Carbon filter, freeze dried food, lighters and toilet paper. Take a lesson from boater trash: that's really all you ever need as far as a bugout kit goes. A suture kit is nice, but as long as you're not bleeding out, isn't technically a requirement.
a first aid kit is required in a bug out bag IMO. A bigger one at the house also.
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a first aid kit is required in a bug out bag IMO. A bigger one at the house also.
Can live without it.....Assuming you don't need it. Which, it's never good to assume. Mine's fairly light: A basic with added suture, duct tape, gauze and some tweaky pills in case someone has to turn a 2-day hike into a 12 hour hike.
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Can live without it.....Assuming you don't need it. Which, it's never good to assume. Mine's fairly light: A basic with added suture, duct tape, gauze and some tweaky pills in case someone has to turn a 2-day hike into a 12 hour hike.
I hear ya. there's not enough room in the bag for everything. trade offs required. we keep some insect sting stuff in our bag. the stay at home kit is a full blown ambulance kit. we have room for it, use it as needed, it's nice to have.

Something unique we were advised to have is an earthquake pry bar/gas shut off tool. Door thresholds will get torqued up and the pry bar is for opening those doors. good idea.
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I hear ya. there's not enough room in the bag for everything. trade offs required. we keep some insect sting stuff in our bag. the stay at home kit is a full blown ambulance kit. we have room for it, use it as needed, it's nice to have.

Something unique we were advised to have is an earthquake pry bar/gas shut off tool. Door thresholds will get torqued up and the pry bar is for opening those doors. good idea.
Interesting addition. I'll have to forward that idea to my West Coast friends.
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I even have charging cords for my cell and my laptop ready.
I'm no prepper or anything but dude, your go kit kinda blows.. hehe
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The funniest part about that is he started this thread ridiculing people he thinks are not prepared. Ahahaha.
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Seriously... a few bags of clothes?
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If you told me there was going to be a hurricane and I would unable to leave my house, and we would have no power, we would be fine. We have enough water and power for the three of us for a week. We even have these "Everyready" laterns and tons of batteries to run them.

These people know it's gong to happen to them - why don't they prepare for it?
How do you think the empty shelves got that way?

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With a hurricane it's not an instant thing. One afternoon it doesn't just suddenly appear. Having some extra supplies on hand is always a good idea, but if a hurricane is coming, you have plenty of time to prepare. Personally, instead of having a full pantry, I would make sure to have a "get the fuck out" kit. I would save enough money and have it and some basic things set aside so if a hurricane headed my way I could grab my kit, get in the car and not stop driving for until I was well out of its path.
Most people have 9-5 jobs, so that really is not a feasible solution.
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The funniest part about that is he started this thread ridiculing people he thinks are not prepared. Ahahaha.
They are not prepared. Every time there is a hurricane the shelves are empty in the stores. There are lines to buy plywood at stores.

I grew up on top of a little mountain in NJ and every winter we knew we would be snowed in for a few days, usually with no power. Every time it snowed, my parents didn't run out and buy supplies. We spent our summers collecting wood and always had a huge stock pile. We had a pantry crammed with food. We could go a week without anything without worry.

When you live in a hurricane zone, shouldn't you at least store some plywood somewhere so that when the storm comes you don't have to rush out to the hardware store to buy plywood? Shouldn't you also store some food? Water? Flashlights and batteries? Isn't this just common sense.

If I couldn't leave my house for a week and had no power.... I would be fine.

Doesn't everyone plan ahead for such things?
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How do you think the empty shelves got that way?
Because everyone said "Oh, there is a hurricane coming so I should buy supplies". My entire point here is don't people make plans ahead of time and stock up on basic things? If a earthquake hit without warning and your county loses power for the next six days, are you ready for that? I am.
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many are born and raised there and family is important. you can't ask your whole family to move because you wet your underoos
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Its really not a complicated concept. Food is perishable...people wait till the last minute to buy perishable items. Plywood also rots and takes up a ton of room so people dont keep it around. Batteries...again an item that is used throughout the year and replenished when needed. Its not really all that scary either if youre not right on the coast. I'm about 7-8 miles inland and its fine.

And to touch on your winter storm prep (since I lived in NJ and now in FL)...when its cold out your food doesnt go bad lol. Put it outside.

Funny thing is we got grazed by Sandy in NJ and it got absolutely decimated. The prep and buildings here in FL are built for this. My house is concrete and bulletproof glass practically.
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the only person richard is bullshitting his himself while he finger points at others.

when I told him he's fully unprepared for a flood from the levee system he surrounded by, his response to being prepared for a flood was:

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Well, there is only so much you can do... Short of buying a small boat, there isn't much we can do. I don't know anything about the Sacramento River valley levee system, but I believe it's far enough away so that it's not an issue for me.
but everyone else isn't as prepared as richard.


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Its really not a complicated concept. Food is perishable...people wait till the last minute to buy perishable items. Plywood also rots and takes up a ton of room so people dont keep it around. Batteries...again an item that is used throughout the year and replenished when needed. Its not really all that scary either if youre not right on the coast. I'm about 7-8 miles inland and its fine.

And to touch on your winter storm prep (since I lived in NJ and now in FL)...when its cold out your food doesnt go bad lol. Put it outside.

Funny thing is we got grazed by Sandy in NJ and it got absolutely decimated. The prep and buildings here in FL are built for this. My house is concrete and bulletproof glass practically.
exactly. Anyone who is prepared knows that those preparations have a shelf life. AND what the fuck is wrong with picking up supplies? To even think that because people are picking up supplies before a storm means none of them are prepared is ludicrous.
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exactly. Anyone who is prepared knows that those preparations have a shelf life. AND what the fuck is wrong with picking up supplies? To even think that because people are picking up supplies before a storm means none of them are prepared is ludicrous.
Ya got me . Nothing wrong with re-upping on a few things here and there. Think of it this way...you have an entire state of people re-upping on a couple items and it decimates the selves. How much plywood does home depot really have on tap at all times, batteries, gas cans, etc.
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Every time there is a hurricane they always show stores with empty shelves.... Don't these people prepare for these kinds of events?

If you told me there was going to be a hurricane and I would unable to leave my house, and we would have no power, we would be fine. We have enough water and power for the three of us for a week. We even have these "Everyready" laterns and tons of batteries to run them.

These people know it's gong to happen to them - why don't they prepare for it?
op have you studied this? they don't take the same path in a row. it may be decades b4 it every goes the same place.
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Ya got me . Nothing wrong with re-upping on a few things here and there. Think of it this way...you have an entire state of people re-upping on a couple items and it decimates the selves. How much plywood does home depot really have on tap at all times, batteries, gas cans, etc.
again, exactly.

his judging people's hurricane preparedness based on what he sees on tv is beyond retarded. Combined with revealing his own preparedness is absolute nonsense- raid the fridge and have a bbq, we don't live in an earthquake zone/i'm not aware we live in a levee flood zone either but I'm fully prepared.

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I also don't know how I stayed in NJ as long as I did. But now that I'm out you won't catch me back there!
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I also don't know how I stayed in NJ as long as I did. But now that I'm out you won't catch me back there!
I'm the same with living on the Gulf Coast. We survived several hurricanes growing up, you won't catch me back there either!

I'm not laughing at those caught in the path btw. just the fact that richard (who lives in the middle of a desert in shithole central california on top of a fault line) can't figure out why people live on the entire east coast.
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I'm the same with living on the Gulf Coast. We survived several hurricanes growing up, you won't catch me back there either!

I'm not laughing at those caught in the path btw. just the fact that richard (who lives in the middle of a desert in shithole central california on top of a fault line) can't figure out why people live on the entire east coast.
100% get what you're saying. I wish harm on no one in the path but fact of the matter is everyone is pretty prepared and the entire east coast has been tracking this for about 7+ days now. Storm has also been decreased to a CAT 3 now.
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