MaDalton

This is the thing: Whenever nowadays someone comes with "What about Hillary blablabla..." I just end the discussion and walk away.

Hillary is not president, if she broke the law then indict her, put her into court and lock her away. Hasn't happend so far even though they try really really hard for years now. But by all means: do it.

But Trump IS president, he and his people actively destroy partnerships with other democratic countries that have been built for decades while he is praising people like Kim, Putin or Duterte as fine people.

America, the land of the free, has a leader that dismisses free press, free elections (by discrediting them without grounds - so what came out of the investigation about voter fraud btw?) and loves autocratic ruler.

If I was American, I would be outraged. Because this is not what America stands for. Stood for.

And if you blindly defend his actions - and/or really believe things like that he just misspoke would or wouldn't - then you are an idiot.

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I would agree DJT looked bad with his would or wouldn't fiasco. The question is what does it matter in the grand scheme of things, probably not much, there's evidence, results, and then there's everything else.

This has been actually a solid commentary on the topic I've stumbled upon, not in the habit of sharing videos but here you go:



You can skip to 2:10 to avoid seeing DJT if you can't stand him. Then it's 5 minutes.

What's discussed is who are those that advocate on hating Russia, the former Washington DC establishment that's all of a sudden claiming a moral high ground in the light of the Russian Boogeyman, the selective choice of which regimes are labeled non stop as "bad" and which get a free pass, and more.

It's a speech that, in a healthy or normal political climate, could even force one to think. It brings up some interesting points that could, in a healthy or normal political climate, be discussed.

Of course, this is only for those that won't get into a full meltdown mode over, probably not even watching it in the first place. Likely due to the fact that it's from a source they are not allowed to watch (their partisan ideologists don't allow that).

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MaDalton

I rest in my case.

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8pt-buck

Another lefty foreigner tossing in his two cents concerning a topic that has nothing to do with his country's immigration or economy. What's next, Trump wiped his ass with Charmin instead of a generic brand toilet paper ?

Rochard

It's amazing how they continue to do this. "But Hillary". The other day (I forget it if was with Putin or back at the White House) Trump was talking about Obama and something he failed to do. WTF? If you did that in the work place and blamed something on your predecessor two years earlier you would be out of a job.

Hillary Clinton did nothing wrong. Ever. Period. We had dozen investigations into Hillary Clinton and there was never any wrong doing. There are still investigations going on today.

I am not sure how to explain to this to the Republican party.... Trump is in charge. It doesn't matter how we got here. His job is not to assign blame. His job is to fix the problem. Eighteen months in and he still isn't accepting the fact that the Russian government has meddled with and hacked our elections. Trump is doing nothing to defend our democracy.

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8pt-buck

That's fine but the Liberal nut job creating the :
"Hillary Clinton: 'Now we know' which team Trump plays for" is okay, right ?

You liberals are so screwed in the head for the reason you can't accomplish one conviction on Trump not to mention win one influential election. One thing you can do is attempt to take full credit for a fireworks display when your out of pocket expense was zero.

Carry on my wayward son

MaDalton

seriously - are you as clueless as you seem or do you just pretend for entertainment?

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TheSquealer

I'm always unsure who is the most arrogant, smug cunt on this forum. You and ********** are top 3 for sure. Talking shit about others, attacking others, putting other people down for their views (having no respect for others / intolerant towards others) and then at the same time, patting yourself on the back all day long for being on the moral high ground... and as usual, bowing out and letting everyone know that you have "better tings to do" when the tides turn against you, as if you weren't being a dick to begin with. It's that last move which you love to pull which gives you extra Smug Cunt Points in my scoring.

Neither one of you are the "great guys" that you think you are. You are just run of the mill smug and arrogant assholes who embody all the personal traits and qualities of those you claim to despise. Like crockett and the crocketteers, you are everything yourself, that you hate in "them".

(just need thommy to jump in and in his usual 3rd grade manner wish death on others as he informs everyone how dumb they are, in the least intelligent manner humanly possible and the GFY Smug Cunt Foreigner trifecta will be complete)

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thanks

feel free to write 5 more posts with endless text for self-affirmation

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You're welcome. And thank you for your gracious permission to post. I will. Hopefully, it can help you become a better person (and maybe take you closer to being the person you seem to think you are) as you are informing others on the other side of the planet, in a place you don't live in, how dumb they are for what they think, feel and believe .... as if you're somehow better informed, your opinion is well qualified or as if you even have a fucking clue what you're talking about at all.

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beerptrol

Chump's a beta cuck bitch and Putin owns him. Chump won't say anything bad about Putin or any other dictator

He likes to talk shit about other Democracy leaders, but when he comes face to face with them he praises them to their face. Something a beta cuck would do!

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Bladewire

You are part of the problem

What Trump said & did was a hell of a lot more than "looks". He gave allegiance to Russia over America. He also believed Putin over his own intelligence agencies, American patriots.

The list goes on but the veil was lifted on what Trumps mission is but you refuse to acknowledge that truth.

The only people Trump plays hardball with is our allies! Trump is kinder to Putin & Kim Jong Un than he is with our British, Canadian & EU allies.

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Carefull! There are some serious snowflakes on GFY who might take offense to that...dynamo*coughcough*


I usually will skip the rest of their post when I read that too...


Exactly. But she's innocent. There have been no arrest or indictments and trumpers lose their mind over this so much that their conspiracy-coated brain cells go into overdrive. And at the same time, they conveniently ignore all of the arrests and indictments around Trump. It's amazing.



I thought you were stronger and smarter than this. I was wrong,


Why not try defending Trump properly instead of try to deflect the conversation? Are you unable to?


It seems like that's all they can do. They have no excuse and no argument and no way to defend their opinions on lord Chump. They only thing they can say is "but Hillary..". Also popular is "But Obama" of course...


STOP DOING THAT! GROW A PAIR OF BALLS AND FIGHT PROPERLY FOR FUCKSAKES!





Come on dude, that's not exactly true. First, this is just a forum, and real life should never be affected by whatever is said here. Next, as I've said a hundred times, I love you guys. All I want is for people to provide real, solid arguments to defend their point of view or position. Every time I say "Why do you support Trump when he does this", the answer is almost always "But the emails". It's just so dumb! Sorry, but its dumb dumb dumb.

I never said I was a great guy. Are you mixing me up with Trump? You bastard! ;)


Hmm... ok, good point. I didn't realize I came off this way, or at least, so strongly this way. I'll try to be more careful in future posts from now on. Deal? Shake? Truce?

Peace?

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Robbie

Let's see...Russia has "something on Trump" and controls him.

Weird. Pres. Obama laid down for Putin.

Pres Trump has laid the heaviest sanctions ever on Russia.
Pres. Trump has removed all of Obama's executive orders that crippled our Energy Industry and now we are producing oil and gas and driving down oil prices which HURTS Russia
Pres. Trump has armed the Ukrainians with LETHAL weapons to fight back against the Russians...which Pres. Obama refused to do.
Syrians used gas on their people and Obama pussy'ed out and let the Syrians and Russians off the hook...Trump bombed their ass.
Pres. Trump put missiles BACK in Eastern Europe that Obama removed.
ALL of the Russian aggressive moves were made during the Obama Administration. NONE have occurred under Pres. Trump.

Pretty much President Trump has HURT Russia and helped the USA with every policy he has enacted.

So I would say that this "theory" is 100% bullshit wishful thinking by the "Left".

Tell me why I am wrong. Show me one thing that Trump has done to "help" Russia. And then look at all he has done to push back on them. And then realize Pres. Obama did NOTHING to push back and instead sucked Putin's cock for 8 years

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Oil spikes after US production hits record 11 million barrels per day

Oil prices rose Wednesday after data showed record US crude production and an unexpected build of supplies last week.
West Texas Intermediate was up 0.3% to $67.46 a barrel at 11:30 a.m. ET. Brent, the international benchmark, was up 0.9% to $72.24 a barrel.
US crude production hit 11 million barrels per day for the first time on record, the Energy Department said. Meanwhile, domestic crude supplies rose by 5.8 million barrels in the week ending July 13. Analysts had expected a drawdown of 2 million to 3 million barrels.

Oil spikes after US production hits record 11 million barrels per day | Markets Insider

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graph images must be upside down .....

Bladewire

Increased oil prices helps Putin, oil is one of Russia's top exports. #ThanksTrump

thommy

bullshit !

how comes that the imports FROM russia to the US have been INCREASED since trump ?

look here

and here

bullshit - because US is such a big spender of energy and does not even try to get into renewable energy it had to import gas and oil from russia.

and US will need russia even more because he put the sanctions on iran what is one of the biggest oil producers in the world.

saudi arabia and the other oil nations are not able to replace that production.

"against the russians" tells all what you know about this war.
there are ukrainians what are killing ukrainians there. it is a civil war. same as happens in syria.
so he armed them that brother can kill brother.
i am pretty sure he will do the same in the next US civil war just to fulfill what he get´s paid for from NRA.

after all that time there is NOT ONE prove that assad used gas or chemical weapons.
did you not learn in irak what happens when you react on false information?

oh thats great - so wait a bit until russia will install a few missiles in cuba.
you are fucking lack in history. or you measure with different scales.
you guys don´t see it as an aggression when YOU do it but as soon the other is doing the same you call it aggression.

bullshit - since trump russia´s economy BOOSTED UP in this past 2 years nearly 25 % (in words: twentyfive)

your knowledge is bullshit. you don´t even know the facts nor the circumstances and who is who.

I showed you HOW FUCKING WRONG you are.

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CarlosTheGaucho

What you wrote is a projection, you can project anything, and persuade yourself about anything. It can be rational, irrational, downright insane, works the same in every case - and brings the same self affirmation.

One remark - last time I checked I'm not the one trying to force others into obeying a narrative.

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TheSquealer

The perfect phrase to describe Democrats and US media right now as they all continue to spiral.

"Obey the narrative".

There was only one narrative through Obamas Presidency.... "he can do no wrong" and if you're a Democrat "we can do no wrong". The media which is all dying as it rightfully should pushed this narrative day and night. It felt good to Democrats to be told "you're right about everything". They had a media which never challenged the President or policies as they're supposed to. They never asked him tough questions in press briefings. They never held him accountable for anything at all. To this day, the guy who had scandal after scandal during his Presidency brags about a scandal free Presidency. Because in large part, the media told him all day long that he was awesome and his ideas were the only ideas. No one challenged an unearned Nobel Peace Prize from a guy who had done nothing but run around the country saying "hope and change".

It all came to an abrupt end in November 2016. Suddenly, they were wrong. Suddenly the narrative fell apart. Suddenly up was down, black was white and they've all been in an emotional tailspin since.

And look at how they act today. Like a cunty, spoiled 13 year old princess who didn't get her way.

Fewer and fewer since 2016 are "obeying the narrative", the media has lost their monopoly on the news, they have lost their monopoly on the narrative and everyone's behavior as a result is getting increasingly irrational and insane. "nazi!", "racist!", "treason!", "impeach!" etc etc etc.

And there has never been so much irrational hate towards anyone who didn't "obey the narrative" in this country. It's even visible on this very forum.

And to this day, not a single person here could lay out the Democratic platform, explain how any of it could be achieved or even make a solid case why voting for anyone in their party would be in their best interest.... but they're pretty sure you're a racist nazi if you don't vote for them.

Its not a war of ideas anymore. It is coming down to a war between mature adults and those who act like children.

This is the craziest time i've ever witnessed in US politics. As a guy who was elected President is feverishly working to fulfill every campaign promise, "the other team" are feverishly working to burn the entire nation down just to be "right". Not to prove an idea that matters to be right. Not to improve peoples lives. Not to push for legislation which will benefit citizens, but to punish the guy who beat them at the direct expense of the nation, it's economy and it's future.

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Source: Gallup

As David Sirota noted, "Gallup recently did a poll of what Americans say is the most important problem facing the country. One finding: the percentage of Americans saying “Situation with Russia” is the most important problem is literally too small to represent with a number. "

So with all that energy expended on pinning the Russia collusion tail on Trump's campaign donkey, let alone former FBI Director Comey's insistence that 'anyone voting Republican is anti-American', we are reminded of the blinkered view of the world so many suffer from and what Steve Bannon said yesterday at CNBC's "Delivering Alpha" conference: The Democrats abandoned the American worker.

The meddling was on the margin, and the Democrats need to accept this. The collusion - they haven't found one shred of evidence.

The Democrats have yet to embrace why they lost...[they] have wanted a do-over since 2:30 am on Nov. 9 - and they've lied and they've bitched and in November they'll get their do-over...but on November 6, the deplorables will be plenty jacked up.

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dyna mo

you're as dumb as thommy to think I'm a trumpster.

I'm not shocked.

dyna mo

this guy is a total dumb guy!

"the United States is the second-largest growth market for renewables. Despite President Donald Trump’s decision to pull out of the Paris Agreement, renewable projects in the US are expected to benefit from multi-year federal tax incentives and state-level policies for distributed solar panels in the coming years."

Fucking India has better renewable energy than euros

"India overtakes the European Union

In India, meanwhile, renewable capacity is expected to more than double by 2022. Solar and wind represent 90% of India’s capacity growth, which is the result of auctions for contracts to develop power-generation capacity that have yielded some of the world’s lowest prices for both technologies, the report says."

Renewables 2017

the amount of oil we import from russia is miniscule, literally in the 1000s of barrels
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Le..._NUS-NRS_1&f=M

we haven't imported oil from Iran since 1991.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Le..._NUS-NIR_2&f=A


The state of Texas produces more fucking oil than Iran or Iraq
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-env...t-oil-producer


you fucking nitwit.

thommy

i don´t even take the time to read you bullshit.

go back to planet idiot where you came from you living wretch.

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dyna mo

that only partially explains why you're so fucking stupid.

your hate explains the rest of it.