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Old 06-20-2018, 04:33 PM   #1
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EU article 11 and 13 copyright law

The EU parliament voted yes for this proposal on 20th June, the last chance is for it to go up to plenary session.

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The EU’s extremely controversial Copyright Reform — which might introduce upload filters, ancillary copyright, and restrictions on text and data mining — will finally go to a vote on June 20.
https://thenextweb.com/eu/2018/06/19...orm-explained/

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On June 20th, a committee of the European Parliament will vote on whether to proceed on a copyright proposal that some say will destroy the internet as we know it. That may sound fairly hyperbolic, but over 70 experts — including World Wide Web inventor Tim Berners-Lee and Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales — have criticized the proposal, saying it will turn the internet into “a tool for the automated surveillance and control of its users.”
https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/19/1...-upload-filter

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June 20, 2018 4:42 pm

The European Union (EU) is pressing ahead with efforts to ban online memes under new digital copyright laws, with the controversial rules – Article 11 and Article 13 – now having successfully passed through an EU committee.

In what might be the first justifiable reason to actually support Brexit, the EU’s JURI commission voted in favour of the Copyright Directive on June 20. This means they will now be put forward to the European Parliament with a view to being passed into law.
The EU is one step closer to banning memes and 'destroying the internet'

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The European Parliament Committee on Legal Affairs just voted ‘yes’ on highly controversial parts of the EU’s new Copyright Reform. The controversial articles — 11 and 13 — effectively establish link tax, censorship machines, and ban memes.

There was heavy resistance to the contested articles from internet activists, lobbyists, and members of European Parliament (MEPs), but all was for nought and the articles passed with a 13:12 and 15:10 majority.
https://thenextweb.com/eu/2018/06/20...-tax-what-now/
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:44 AM   #2
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Old 06-21-2018, 03:09 PM   #3
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Surprised nobody is commenting on this
Me too, it should be high up on the list. I also didn't create a click bait title. Shame on me.
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Old 06-21-2018, 04:55 PM   #4
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I'll comment...

The EU will absolutely kill the internet if they pass this.

Any image that even contains a copyrighted item will be cause for damages.

Good luck letting anyone upload any photo or video. Imagine instagram or snapchat where every frame of every photo or video has to be reviewed, and with 100% accuracy, the reviewer has to decide if anything within the image contains a copyrighted item (such as a painting in the background).

Every single web site will be closed.

In reality, all web sites will have to block every European country, so the Internet will close to the EU.

Fucking stupid morons who don't understand tech trying to pass laws.

But, but the tubes...........
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Old 06-22-2018, 03:06 AM   #5
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Thank you, totalitarian EU! 1984 is happening right under our noses. Democracy is shut down by the EU. Freedom of speech is shut down. And they actually operate a ministry of truth. Oh the EU is so great.

Thommy & Stefan who call everyone and their mom a fascist, somehow manage to support this very scary dictatorial fascist institution. Oh the irony.
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Old 06-22-2018, 07:13 AM   #6
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Back to 90's early 2000's
All adult sites will be in text style again
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Old 06-22-2018, 08:26 AM   #7
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Thank you, totalitarian EU! 1984 is happening right under our noses. Democracy is shut down by the EU. Freedom of speech is shut down. And they actually operate a ministry of truth. Oh the EU is so great.

Thommy & Stefan who call everyone and their mom a fascist, somehow manage to support this very scary dictatorial fascist institution. Oh the irony.
at least you aren't over reacting...
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:10 AM   #8
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They won't be able to enforce this.

Also, rent servers in China.
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Old 06-23-2018, 05:34 AM   #9
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In Holland they recently fined a webmaster cause his 'rape' content could harm people. They asked 75.000 euro, had to pay 10.000 euro. The rape theme content wasn't behind an age check and started playing when opening the website. You don't need an age check in Holland, everybody thought. But looks there is a law that protects against extreme content. Never heard about it even not in the period that animalsex wass still legal.

Now the government is making a survey to look what they will do to protect the children and sent an advice to the politicians. This is the first time i hear about a webmaster getting fined for (extreme) content that is legal.

https://www.cvdm.nl/nieuws/commissar...elijke-videos/
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Old 06-23-2018, 07:35 AM   #10
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In Holland they recently fined a webmaster cause his 'rape' content could harm people. They asked 75.000 euro, had to pay 10.000 euro. The rape theme content wasn't behind an age check and started playing when opening the website. You don't need an age check in Holland, everybody thought. But looks there is a law that protects against extreme content. Never heard about it even not in the period that animalsex wass still legal.

Now the government is making a survey to look what they will do to protect the children and sent an advice to the politicians. This is the first time i hear about a webmaster getting fined for (extreme) content that is legal.

https://www.cvdm.nl/nieuws/commissar...elijke-videos/
In Holland? Just say you are protecting you religious rights to marry a 12 year old, and you'll be fine....the Mullah told you
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Old 06-23-2018, 05:07 PM   #11
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at least you aren't over reacting...
i follow direct streams of debates while i work, and i what i just said is more of an understatement than an overreaction, which may surprise you.

About 1% of all debates and facts are shown in the news eventually, and 99% of that 1% is an offtopic soundbyte or slip of the tongue the sheep can laugh at and go on with their day. Which means almost none of the facts, which are mind boggling to say the least, are shared on the news programs on TV.

I was astonished when i first found this out. Like i said, i can give you cold hard facts of the examples i provided if you want. It's like they used a 1984 blueprint - it's really that bad. And none of this fits the news narrative which doesn't thrive on the big picture, but only on the small simplistic sound bytes.

So please let me know which topic you think i was overreacting about, i'll gladly prove you that it isn't an overreaction at all.
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Old 06-24-2018, 02:25 AM   #12
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i follow direct streams of debates while i work, and i what i just said is more of an understatement than an overreaction, which may surprise you.

About 1% of all debates and facts are shown in the news eventually, and 99% of that 1% is an offtopic soundbyte or slip of the tongue the sheep can laugh at and go on with their day. Which means almost none of the facts, which are mind boggling to say the least, are shared on the news programs on TV.

I was astonished when i first found this out. Like i said, i can give you cold hard facts of the examples i provided if you want. It's like they used a 1984 blueprint - it's really that bad. And none of this fits the news narrative which doesn't thrive on the big picture, but only on the small simplistic sound bytes.

So please let me know which topic you think i was overreacting about, i'll gladly prove you that it isn't an overreaction at all.
Its hard to say if anything is an overreaction... all depends how it's implemented. According to GDPR I can demand any place of business wipe my fingerprints off everything and delete me from security footage...
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Old 06-24-2018, 09:05 AM   #13
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The European Parliament Committee on Legal Affairs just voted ‘yes’ on highly controversial parts of the EU’s new Copyright Reform. The controversial articles — 11 and 13 — effectively establish link tax, censorship machines, and ban memes.

There was heavy resistance to the contested articles from internet activists, lobbyists, and members of European Parliament (MEPs), but all was for nought and the articles passed with a 13:12 and 15:10 majority.



This is NOT to protect anyone... This is for political censorship and violating our privacy.
They are not fooling anyone with this.

For the record, I'm all about protecting copyrights, and I agree we need more options to do that.
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The DEATH of memes and will fuck up social media
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Old 06-25-2018, 04:08 PM   #15
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Lol.. imagine tubes and file lockers would be responsible for what is uploaded on them.

I support this part of that proposal.
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i follow direct streams of debates while i work, and i what i just said is more of an understatement than an overreaction, which may surprise you.

About 1% of all debates and facts are shown in the news eventually, and 99% of that 1% is an offtopic soundbyte or slip of the tongue the sheep can laugh at and go on with their day. Which means almost none of the facts, which are mind boggling to say the least, are shared on the news programs on TV.

I was astonished when i first found this out. Like i said, i can give you cold hard facts of the examples i provided if you want. It's like they used a 1984 blueprint - it's really that bad. And none of this fits the news narrative which doesn't thrive on the big picture, but only on the small simplistic sound bytes.

So please let me know which topic you think i was overreacting about, i'll gladly prove you that it isn't an overreaction at all.
I'll sign up under this situation as being an understatement on the same premises, much of the vital information to make a judgement doesn't reach the masses. It's bad and it's going to get worse before it can turn around, if ever.

By the way i'd love to see a new search engine take up the fight against google, unfortunately that looks like impossible mission.

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So, if Article 13 passes, what do you think will happen? I'm betting that while the biggest of companies will set up filtering systems that will inspect your every word before it's permitted to see the light of day, most will simply not let you post anything at all.

It's cheapest that way. Freedom of speech, you see, under Article 13, will be too expensive for most to defend it.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/europe...copyright-law/
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Old 06-26-2018, 12:43 AM   #17
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There's a lot of censorship going on already, and it's most of the time absolutely selectively enforced (political), and with this if they double down, well.

I'd like to read a legal take on fair use in the light of this legislation.
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:40 AM   #18
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Voting took place today with NO

At first I thought great, until I read they're fine tuning it for September.

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The Copyright Directive, which contained the particularly concerning Article 13, was rejected by 318 votes to 278, with 31 abstentions. The EU’s proposed copyright reforms will now be debated again in September, giving policymakers more time to discuss and refine the crucial dossier.

The rejection of the law in its current form effectively sends it back to the drawing board. "Great success: Your protests have worked!” Julia Reda, a Pirate Party MEP who had campaigned against the legislation, wrote on Twitter.

“The rejection, for now, of the mandate means the Parliament has another few months to get it right,” said Alyn Smith MEP, SNP member of the European Parliament for Scotland. “I look forward to supporting colleagues in that and will continue to be active in efforts to strike a balance that works for everyone.”
more: The EU'''s dodgy Article 13 copyright directive has been rejected | WIRED UK

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/05/arti...right-law.html
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At first I thought great, until I read they're fine tuning it for September.
That seems to be their usual M.O. - whenever the EU invents another freedom removing, privacy invading or other 1984 4th reich law... No matter who opposes it, whether legally, by vote, or referendum results... They do it anyway just under a different title and moving a few commas. It's such a totalitarian system, it's insane. The EU puppetmasters give zero fucks about laws, democracy, society, stability or human lives.
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Julia Reda, a Pirate Party MEP - would you expect someone who is a member of the Pirate Party to protect author's rights?
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Lol.. imagine tubes and file lockers would be responsible for what is uploaded on them.

I support this part of that proposal.
No different then pawn broker selling stolen goods...." off with thier heads" say 1.
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This is a big deal... Kills memes and reduces public participation in the age of POSTMODERNISM (ie., cultural products interblend - pastiche type cultural works)
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