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Old 06-19-2018, 11:57 AM   #51
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Look at all of the Aid we give to some countries. Hundreds of billions of dollars in financial aid. Where is all the money going ?

Are we to give billions of dollars in aid, then still accept illegals in to the United States ?
Clothe them, feed them, give them free education, drivers licenses, housing. Who do you think is paying for all of this ? My TAX DOLLARS

Our United States infrastructure is shit. It's like a 3rd world country as were giving aid to others. Something isn't right with that. Glad Trump is putting his foot down.

Like I said. This illegal immigrant shit has been going on for decades. It's ingrained as a everyday norm. Some of you are all for illegals crossing the border in to the US. On the other hand some like myself think it's gone too far and needs to be addressed.

Bleeding heart liberals, is there any constructive ideas on how to stop the illegal migration of immigrants across a countries border ? I see a lot of complaining but not one post of a solution.
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Nazis. Imagine that we now have a Left thats so emotionally unhinged that they are here saying the majority of the voting public wants genocide.... all because they can't accept a nation rejecting that exact same immature, hateful rhetoric.
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the idiocy of the typical liberal is stunning. they bounce from one lie to the next parroting whatever idiot message the left rouses them with. Pro tip: spend more time finding meaningful work, you've failed at so much already and there's only so much time left.
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Look at all of the Aid we give to some countries. Hundreds of billions of dollars in financial aid. Where is all the money going ?

Are we to give billions of dollars in aid, then still accept illegals in to the United States ?
Clothe them, feed them, give them free education, drivers licenses, housing. Who do you think is paying for all of this ? My TAX DOLLARS

Our United States infrastructure is shit. It's like a 3rd world country as were giving aid to others. Something isn't right with that. Glad Trump is putting his foot down.

Like I said. This illegal immigrant shit has been going on for decades. It's ingrained as a everyday norm. Some of you are all for illegals crossing the border in to the US. On the other hand some like myself think it's gone too far and needs to be addressed.

Bleeding heart liberals, is there any constructive ideas on how to stop the illegal migration of immigrants across a countries border ? I see a lot of complaining but not one post of a solution.
Replace the word aid with bribe...it is a scam...crony pocket lining...if you guys never gave a cents "aid" ever again it would make the world a better place...
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i find it hard to feel bad when these people are knowingly breaking the law and trying to enter the country illegally and then expect to not be treated like criminals. sucks for the kids but their dumb dumb parents shouldn't be putting their lives in such danger to start with.
They are not all entering illegally.. He is doing this to people who are trying to seek asylum legally.
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They are not all entering illegally.. He is doing this to people who are trying to seek asylum legally.
Where are you reading this? You just said I was a dummy and that he was doing this and that this was MANY.

I can't seem to find any evidence anywhere of your claim
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Nazis. Imagine that we now have a Left thats so emotionally unhinged that they are here saying the majority of the voting public wants genocide.... all because they can't accept a nation rejecting that exact same immature, hateful rhetoric.

You're the guy that made the statement that anyone who has a problem with Nazi's possess some type of 'strange hatred'. Your opinion means as much to me as a worm residing in dog feces.
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Where are you reading this? You just said I was a dummy and that he was doing this and that this was MANY.

I can't seem to find any evidence anywhere of your claim
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1GR2E3
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I am sure some people are being detained while seeking asylum. I can't find where most of the people who have been separated from their families went to port of entry and were seeking asylum as claimed by crocket. You got an article with stats for me?
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I am sure some people are being detained while seeking asylum. I can't find where most of the people who have been separated from their families went to port of entry and were seeking asylum as claimed by crocket. You got an article with stats for me?
Well, as we all know... no single human being from a 3rd world shithole, who crossed several countries and then the US border illegally would even consider offering up, well known, well rehearsed lines in order to be considered for asylum.

So yeah.. dude shows up in the desert and says "asylum seeker" and its pretty much case closed from there.

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Who would have thought that it would ultimately be the insanity, lies, twisting of facts and complete and total lack of self awareness with the feigned outrage and constant virtue signaling would ultimately be the catalyst to....

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So this thread proves people are completely divided.

Either you have ZERO compassion and say the illegals (and their kids) can go to Hell, who cares if they are put in cages, they are animals who should not be here, who do not deserve "asylum". Shit, they don't even deserve to live! And the kids? They're the worst of all! Little fucking animals that will grow up to be rapists and terrorists. CLEANSE THIS COUNTRY NOW!!!

Or, you're a human being.

Which side do you fall on?
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Who seems kinder?

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So this thread proves people are completely divided.

Either you have ZERO compassion and say the illegals (and their kids) can go to Hell, who cares if they are put in cages, they are animals who should not be here, who do not deserve "asylum". Shit, they don't even deserve to live! And the kids? They're the worst of all! Little fucking animals that will grow up to be rapists and terrorists. CLEANSE THIS COUNTRY NOW!!!

Or, you're a human being.

Which side do you fall on?
Which type of human (or non-human) would you like to be friends with and hang out with?
Who seems kinder?

Choose wisely, my friends.
"seems kinder"

"seems..."

not a single person is arguing that kids should at ever point be unsafe or harmed. not a single person here would approve of or condone that.

One "side" is constantly inventing shit. blowing things out of proportion for political points. one side is calling people nazis, animals, immoral, hateful, cruel, baby killers or "non human" etc etc etc.

Are those people you'd like to "be friends with and hang out with?"

Is one sides "hate" better than that of the other side?

This discussion at it's core is "I hate Trump",... not "I love children". Little kids who are receiving the best care of their lives are being politicized and everyone is acting like there are guards on the border are shooting them on site.... and that is the truly absurd part. The complete and total lack of honesty.

The same people today feigning their usual moral outrage NEVER had an issue with how the countless 10's of 1000's or more of illegals were marching across the desert with innocent children.
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"seems kinder"

"seems..."

not a single person is arguing that kids should at ever point be unsafe or harmed. not a single person here would approve of or condone that.

One "side" is constantly inventing shit. blowing things out of proportion for political points. one side is calling people nazis, animals, immoral, hateful, cruel, baby killers or "non human" etc etc etc.

Are those people you'd like to "be friends with and hang out with?"

Is one sides "hate" better than that of the other side?

This discussion at it's core is "I hate Trump",... not "I love children". Little kids who are receiving the best care of their lives are being politicized and everyone is acting like there are guards on the border are shooting them on site.... and that is the truly absurd part. The complete and total lack of honesty.

The same people today feigning their usual moral outrage NEVER had an issue with how the countless 10's of 1000's or more of illegals were marching across the desert with innocent children.
ALL of that matters not my friend.
The situation, whoever started it and when, must be STOPPED. We are Americans, not animals, and separating children and keeping them in confined spaces is inhuman and should stop IMMEDIATELY.

And the person with the power to stop it IMMEDIATELY is not doing so. That is the only point here as far as I am concerned. I don't care who started it or how it started. Now that I and most of America is now aware of this shit it has to STOP. Endless finger pointing, from both sides, keeps this practice going and it's disgusting.

And if you think tearing children away from their parents, regardless of where they get sent or end up (even if it's 'nicer' or 'better' than where they came from) isn't harming children then you have no children, are not a parent or have no capacity to empathize with one. You're better than that.
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Where are you reading this? You just said I was a dummy and that he was doing this and that this was MANY.

I can't seem to find any evidence anywhere of your claim
you know all those places that don't spoon feed you your hate agenda. other wise the places you call fake news..
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Not to be on any side of the fence, but wasn't this already happening regardless of who was pres?
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Not to be on any side of the fence, but wasn't this already happening regardless of who was pres?
Well, there NEEDS to be some media faux outrage to distract from what is happening in Washington - it's pretty brutal if you really follow this stuff.

Meanwhile, the Iranian Mullahs keep having their asses handed to them on the daily and nobody notices.



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you know all those places that don't spoon feed you your hate agenda. other wise the places you call fake news..
"children separated from adults, were being trafficked".... but i'm sure you know better. in your world no cartel members, gang bangers, wanted felons, drug mules, criminals, sex traffickers and human traffickers come across the border with kids.

Oh... and you had a great point.. all the criminal breaking the law and crossing into the nation illegally has to do is just recite two sentences and claim asylum. we both know drug dealers or sex traffickers or gangbangers would never do this kind of thing, so really that;s so obviously the easiest way to separate bad guys from good guys.

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fucking Senate Democrats!!! Don't they know kids are suffering??? This is not about politics!!!
Asked if that meant Democrats would not support a bill backed by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to keep immigrant families together while seeking asylum on the U.S. border, Schumer said they want to keep the focus on Trump.
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Any more feigned moral outrage, virtue signaling and hateful attacks?? Anyone? No?

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ALL of that matters not my friend.
The situation, whoever started it and when, must be STOPPED. We are Americans, not animals, and separating children and keeping them in confined spaces is inhuman and should stop IMMEDIATELY.
THIS is the america the world would respect !

unfortunately now it will take centuries til your country will be respected again in the world.
and unfortunately it is not because of people like you or the majority of americans. it is because of too many blind and brainwashed idiots with a far too loud voice.
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Or, you're a human being.

Which side do you fall on?
Which type of human (or non-human) would you like to be friends with and hang out with?
Who seems kinder?

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That's not a policy, Schlomo.

Their parents should've chosen wisely in the first place. Now stop flashing at white girls.
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This happened with kids who came with out parents.. The key difference here is Trump has started taking kids away from parents. Are you really this clueless?
Well, when parents anywhere in the USA break the law, social services do indeed take children away from their parents. We expect that to happen. And we would be outraged as a society if that were not the case. The children's welfare should always be first and foremost.

However, I'm not aware that crossing the border illegally is breaking any particular American law. So I feel that those who do, should be exempt from social services taking children. (My 2 cents, I'm not a lawyer. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.)
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THIS is the america the world would respect !

unfortunately now it will take centuries til your country will be respected again in the world.
and unfortunately it is not because of people like you or the majority of americans. it is because of too many blind and brainwashed idiots with a far too loud voice.
It won't take centuries but its certainly going to take more than one administration, and by then it's too late. Germanys on the The Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), sit back eat popcorn.
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The left's last stand to try and rile up voters; nothing more, nothing less.

The truth is already coming out about their true intentions with this faux outrage.

Oh, and for all you schmucks that think "Trump can stop this right now!!!", umm, no he can't. The laws need to be changed in Congress, fools.
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That's not a policy, Schlomo.

Their parents should've chosen wisely in the first place. Now stop flashing at white girls.
In a thread full of mindless insanity you manage to stand out.

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ALL of that matters not my friend.
The situation, whoever started it and when, must be STOPPED. We are Americans, not animals, and separating children and keeping them in confined spaces is inhuman and should stop IMMEDIATELY.

And the person with the power to stop it IMMEDIATELY is not doing so. That is the only point here as far as I am concerned. I don't care who started it or how it started. Now that I and most of America is now aware of this shit it has to STOP. Endless finger pointing, from both sides, keeps this practice going and it's disgusting.

And if you think tearing children away from their parents, regardless of where they get sent or end up (even if it's 'nicer' or 'better' than where they came from) isn't harming children then you have no children, are not a parent or have no capacity to empathize with one. You're better than that.
The world will be a better place if people like him don't breed.
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you know all those places that don't spoon feed you your hate agenda. other wise the places you call fake news..
Okay so you made it up, can't prove your point might as well call me hate filled and continue to double down on your lie.
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The world will be a better place if people like him don't breed.
No.

The world would be a better place if people actually stopped ask questions and get facts before launching into insane, emotionally driven tirades based on nothing at all but clickbait headlines.

Not a single person knows any facts... everyone is "outraged"... and why? because,.... Trump! Because "Republicans!"

What are the actual facts? Do YOU know?

Were you outraged in 2014 when 10s of 1000s of unaccompanied minors were flooding the border? No... because,... Obama. Did you ask how they were being cared for? Of course not.

How many unaccompanied minors are there right now?
How many children are in the company of child traffickers?
How many children are in the company of wanted criminals?
How many children are in the company of sex traffickers?

What is the process exactly?
How long does the process take?
10 mins, 5hrs?

What is the part that has everyone so insanely upset other than headlines like "Torn from their parents..."?

... thats right.... you dont know. Even worse, people like you don't care. You don't even bother to ask what the facts are.

And why? Because it's not about children at all. It's about "us vs them and we're right and if they don't agree they're evil, ... cause.... kids!"

What an amazing coincidence that ALL democrats are incredibly outraged about a decades old issue at the exact same moment that the IG report shows the FBI itself colluding to make sure Trump didn't win the Presidential election. Mid terms coming up and at the same time the economy is booming. Trade is booming. Unemployment for everyone is at record lows. Now, suddenly, this thing thats been going on forever has Democrat politicians crying on tv all day long.... suddenly we have this "desperate crisis" that is absolutely nothing new at all... and that not a single one of you cared about until today.



This whole display is pathetic.

AND HERE IS THE FUCKING FACT...

If someone could say "hey, this is the exact process, this is how, these are the reasons it's done like this and these are the alternatives... what do you think? let's talk about this and see if we can't make this better", i'd give an opinion.

But thats not happening.

All that is happening is "if you don't freak out and cry and scream at Trump, cause... kids! then you're evil and heartless and a horrible human being".

The usual hyperbole. And once there is no more political currency in this issue, you'll all have forgotten about it 100%. Because the point was never to genuinely care.. the very point was to run around telling people you care.... and to point the fingers at others saying "see, they don't care but i do".

Everyone on the Left sounds like any 13 yr old girlfriend I had when I was a little kid.

Don't let hard, concrete facts get in the way of your 24/7 feigned outrage and virtue signaling.

You're every bit the horrible person you think Trump is if you can't explain the exact processing process, the details of the facilities, how long things take, what kind of care people get and how soon they are all brought back together and deported... but insist instead on just calling people Nazis as some sort of pathetic, intellectual shortcut.
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Maybe you guys should start caring that over 70% of black families have no father. Maybe you should care that the chances of every single kid growing up in a black household with no father has an exponentially greater chance of ending up in prison. You know, make a real difference. Care that 3000-4000 (mostly kids) in Chicago alone will be shot this year in gang related violence. You don't care that most of them are kids and that their being murdered in your own backyards.

This "outrage" seems to be oddly intense for something that isn't new, very selective and is DEFINITELY well timed politically.
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fucking Senate Democrats!!! Don't they know kids are suffering??? This is not about politics!!!
Asked if that meant Democrats would not support a bill backed by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to keep immigrant families together while seeking asylum on the U.S. border, Schumer said they want to keep the focus on Trump.
Of course they won't suffering people are a political winner. Since the only ones who actually want to do anything about illegal immigration are the Republicans the Dems can sit back in their ivory towers and pass judgement on them. Just look at this thread.

They had the power to do something from 2009 to 2011 and did nothing, why? Because if exactly what we are seeing in the news these days. I am 100% sure they will try to milk this till midterms. Republicans should have something to fix this on the table in the coming days and let's watch the Democrats squirm out of signing this like they did Daca
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"The use of criminal charges against parents caught crossing the border (illegally) triggers a legal situation that necessitates separating children, while the use of civil immigration detention and removal does not require this to occur. When adults are detained and prosecuted in the criminal justice system for immigration offenses, their children cannot, by law, be housed with them in criminal jails, so the family unit is separated. The children are placed with the Department of Health and Human Services in shelters until they can be released to a family member, guardian, or foster family in the United States."


Mid Terms are coming, economy is booming, Dems are behind in the polls and Kids... everyone cares about criminals and their kids all the sudden... yet somehow....

"Schumer rejects GOP proposal to address border crisis"

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3...-border-crisis


... but "politics" has nothing to do with it.
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The left's last stand to try and rile up voters; nothing more, nothing less.

The truth is already coming out about their true intentions with this faux outrage.

Oh, and for all you schmucks that think "Trump can stop this right now!!!", umm, no he can't. The laws need to be changed in Congress, fools.
Nobody seems to get that, Laws are made at the legislative branch and the executive branch is there to enforce them. So now the executive branch is doing their job and everyone is losing their minds. It's madness
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What bothers me is that we live in a world where people can completely flip out over a headline from very dishonest news sources which are all dying and have long since became info-tainment.

Not a single person thinks rationally and asks "ok,, lets look at this,... what are the facts exactly" but instead simply respond to a mental image or an idea "should children be torn from parents" and do so in a complete vacuum, with no facts AND then don't care about the facts.

It reminds me a great deal of living in Russia. Everyone used to say "you can't believe anything on the news" and then at the same time, you'd see that anytime the news said something they wanted to believe, that "thing" on the news became gospel.

US media at this point is every bit as bad as Russian media. The difference is that Russian is controlled by the government and here, they are just dying and forced to basically become those little paid ad content blocks (taboola/outbrain) at the bottom of sites with headlines like 'This kid stood in front of a semi and you won't believe what happened next" - except it's the mainstream public reacting to those little ad blocks.
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Nazis. Imagine that we now have a Left thats so emotionally unhinged that they are here saying the majority of the voting public wants genocide.... all because they can't accept a nation rejecting that exact same immature, hateful rhetoric.
Trump has never had a majority... He couldn't even win the popular vote. He has a consistent 30% support of deranged lunatics like you.
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The people who made the legal process came illegally...it is one thing to immigrate to another country, but to put the natives in concentrated camps and declare their land as you own kinda puts in question the legitimacy of the legal process your ancestors went through...
To be illegal in the 1600s, wouldn't there have to be a government and laws established? So how did they come here "illegally"? And as far as declaring their land as ours, for the most part the indians didn't believe in private property as they were nomadic. If they did own land it was communally owned, and a lot of that land was sold and paid for by the settlers. You can even search tons of these deeds at the Plymouth County Registry of Deeds going back to the early 1600s
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Trump has never had a majority... He couldn't even win the popular vote. He has a consistent 30% support of deranged lunatics like you.
Dude.. in California ALONE they have given out more than 1 million drivers licenses to illegals. Do you want to know what the protocol is to stop them from voting?


Asking them not to.


Yes, asking them. Please don't vote.
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Trump has never had a majority... He couldn't even win the popular vote. He has a consistent 30% support of deranged lunatics like you.
Serious question, do you know how to read?

Go back and look in this thread. Red Fred said that everyone on the right want's a genocide and have wanted one for years.

Who is the majority in the house? The Senate? Your hatred of Trump runs so deep you honestly can't look past him and comprehend what people are saying. You sir are deranged.
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