crockett

Another pre election Trump tower meeting happened with Arab crown princes, and Erik Prince, the founder of Blackwater, a private military company now called Academi.

They were from Saudi Arabia and the Emirates as well as a Iserali offical and were offering millions to fund disinformation campaigns to help Trump win the election. Its illegal for forgien govts to assist in US elections.

It explains why Trumps first overseas trip was to the middle east...

Muller has already been investigating this.. once again Trump jr was involved


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/u...nce-zamel.html

https://www.motherjones.com/politics...tower-meeting/

This report also means that Erik Prince likely lied under oath to Congress. Erik Prince is Betsy Devos brother.. A member of Trumps cabinet the Secretary of Education.. who also donated $200 million to the Republican party..

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dyna mo

could jr. be even more cunning & duplicitous than his old man?

dyna mo

crockett

Jr is just the coffee boy, Trump barely knew him..

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GAMEFINEST

Wonder if jr will get indicted

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Compound interest.

crockett

At the rate new shit gets uncovered daily, it will take 10 years just to sort out what to charge them with..

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crockett

Erik Prince's testimony to Congress under oath..


“So there was no formal communication or contact with the campaign?” Rep. Tom Rooney (R-Fla.) asked Prince during his interview by the Intelligence Committee.

“Correct,” Prince responded.

For the record Congress can either refer the crime to the DOJ and suggest it be investigated for lying under oath... or the DOJ can pursue the case on their own with out Congresses approval or disapproval..

We also know for a fact Muller questioned him early on so if Prince lied at that time as well thats a charge of lying to the FBI..

I hope they throw the book at this fuck and his little war profiteering ass..

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ghjghj

It's meddle, idiot.

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I take it this means the other cover story is blown?

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crockett

This is also a good time to bring up the DeVos connection with the Trump Tower, Alfa Bank server. It was also pinging a Spectrum Health server, that belong's to Betsy's husband.

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crockett

So it is... but its also criminal conspiracy..

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Looks like you've got them now. Pinging servers and all.

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It looks like you will have to go start another Hillary sole your bicycle topic to distract..

Pinging servers is just a term.. it was connections where data transfer took place daily, but it hasnt been made public yet what the transfers were so the term pining servers is used. It was a mail server....


mail1.trump-email.com

https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/09/polit...ion/index.html


From May 4 until September 23, the Russian bank looked up the address to this Trump corporate server 2,820 times -- more lookups than the Trump server received from any other source.

As noted, Alfa Bank alone represents 80% of the lookups, according to these leaked internet records.

Far back in second place, with 714 such lookups, was a company called Spectrum Health. Spectrum is a medical facility chain led by Dick DeVos, the husband of Betsy DeVos, who was appointed by Trump as U.S. education secretary.

Together, Alfa and Spectrum accounted for 99% of the lookups.

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Keep dreaming that something, anything will come to fruition..

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Ler's have...another...investigation

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Bladewire

This shows a deliberate and consistent pattern of treason and seeking out election help via espionage.

Rochard

Every day I wake up my first thought is "What will happen today in the Trump world'. And every day I am not disappointed. Every day. Drip, drip, drip.

One of the people at this new meeting was George Nader, who (according to the article) made at least two trips to Moscow. There is also another meeting with Erik Prince, and it seems the Russians were involved in that too.

Just for fun let's start connecting the dots.... Setting aside the fact that it sees the Trump campaign was now directly working with foreigners (which is a crime), this Loel Jamel is an expert in "social media manipulation". It seems all of the social media manipulation was being done out of Russia, and then we have servers in the Trump tower communicating with some "Russian bank".

You already know what they are going to say when Trump himself gets involved... He'll just say "I had no idea". Bullshit.

I can't wait for this to be over.

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They have gone from saying Fake News, to Fake News, to Fake News to it wasnt illegal for Trump jr to meet with the Russians... Thats Trump's lawyers latest defense..

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dyna mo

What's the importance of pinging mail servers in this case?

slapass

I think that is true. He had to accept help which would be illegal.

Rochard

Then you have Rudy. He was on the news the other day talking about this "spy" the FBI had in the Trump campaign. When Rudy was pushed for a name, he couldn't give one. He just said "That's that they tell us" but could even say who "they" are.

This is insane. This is not a Democrat or Republican thing; I am not a member of either party. I vote for who I think is right, and no matter who wins I wish them the best. Not this time. I used to be a hard core Republican but at this point... I am furious at the Republican party for allowing him to get to the Oval Office, and then supporting him.

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crockett

Thats something none of us will know unless it comes out in a leak or we get a explanation from the investigation.

At this point all we can say is its very suspicious to see the activity from a Russian bank that is directly linked to Putin and Trump.. Now add in the connection to Erik Prince who has been outted as being involved in two meetings now related to forgien entities by trying to set up back channel meetings/talks.. one which of supposedly was attempted back channel talks with Russia..

At this point there is no public proof of anything, but it sure looks very suspicious considering the players involved and all the other related things going on at the same time..

This of course was prior to Trump winning the election, meaning any sort of attempts to make deals on behalf of our govt with out the current administration's (Obama's) approval would be very much illegal.


A previous example of this sort of thing was Reagan making a deal with Iran to hold US hostages until after the election to make Carter look bad. That was illegal as hell but Reagan got away with it.

Aka the October Suprise..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octo...spiracy_theory

That set the stage for the later Iran Conta funding..

Theses are things for which Reagan is a hero to the Right, but rather was actually a traitor to the US.. and now his fall guy Ollie North is president of the NRA and former Fox news host..

This of course was 10 years after Nixon being forced to resign after Watergate.. Republicans have a long history of pissing on our Consitution and rule of law..

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dyna mo

no one is naming the informant.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/u...stigation.html

Valerie Plame ring a bell? no? she's the CIA informant outed by the Bush Admin. She's dead now.

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His name is Stefan Halper

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dyna mo

doh!

what a huge disappointment.

Steve Rupe

When did she die and do you have a link. The last I knew she was still alive. I googled and did not see anything about her death.

dyna mo

I thought i recalled her being in an fatal accident but it appears not. Appreciated.

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A bit more on revealing the informant:

The story after the story broke on this was the nyt was not revealing the informant's name, for safety reasons they cite in the article I linked, that looks to be so up until last night or this morning. It does make sense that Rudy might have been also keeping it a secret at that time he was asked about it a few days ago.

crockett

Devin Nunes outted him.. and Scooter Libby who was convicted for outing Valerie Plame was recently pardoned by Trump. I dont think she's dead though.

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Rochard

This right here is why it's illegal for campaigns to work with foreign governments. Reagan made a back door deal with the Iranian government BEFORE he got into office, and when he got into office he had to repay the favor or faced being blackmailed. The end result of that was the Iran Contra affair.

I wasn't much into politics back then but I loved Reagan, and of course at the time everyone was happy about the hostages being released.... but the truth is a lot of laws got broken.

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More FAKE NEWS you believe. Scooter Libby didn't out her... An interesting quote "U.S. v. I. Lewis Libby is worth revisiting to set the record straight. It also illustrates the damage that can be done to national security by a special counsel who, finding no crime, generates through his investigations the alleged offenses he seeks to prosecute.

With a virtually unlimited budget, a malleable mandate, a single case and little in the way of oversight or time constraints, the special counsel operates outside the usual system of formal and informal checks on prosecutorial conduct. This gives him the power to transform executive branch slip-ups, oversights and faulty recollections into criminal offenses capable of crippling the White House and wreaking havoc on individuals and their families."

https://www.hoover.org/research/fals...-scooter-libby

That's right, we've seen this before....

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crockett

Dude just give it up already.. you live in this fantasy world where it's only you who knows the "real" truth. You need to go outside and talk to people outside of your echo chamber...

Otherwise you will end up being the guy trying to shoot up a random pizza parlor because someone convinced you that's where Hillary was hiding..

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candyflip

Touché.

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Acepimp

The fake news is desperate to smear Erik Prince... I wonder why...

Erik Prince: NYPD Ready to Make Arrests in Anthony Weiner Case

He knows what's on the Weiner laptop. NYPD has it all. Now that Schneiderman is gone, Rudy G is gonna move in for the kill & Sessions will reveal more indictments. Swamp draining in progress

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Yes, Trump Jr. Was 'Collusion Curious,' But Where's the Outrage About Hillary's Ukraine Collusion?

Uncovering the Russia ties of Hillary’s campaign chief

^^ Actual collusion found, time to prosecute!

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bronco67

How dare the FBI plant an informant in the Trump campaign. I mean, they weren't doing anything worth looking at really.

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