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Old 05-11-2018, 02:53 AM   #1
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Payoneer - firstchoicepay - froze a huge $00000 amount for our affiliate program

We run an affiliate program, and we loaded in Payoneer-firsthoicepay a lot of money to pay affiliates.

Is there anyone else in the same position?

They keep stalling and give no clear answer,
im in contact with the vice president of Choice Bank Ad Kees
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We run an affiliate program, and we loaded in Payoneer-firsthoicepay a lot of money to pay affiliates.

Is there anyone else in the same position?

They keep stalling and give no clear answer,
im in contact with the vice president of Choice Bank Ad Kees
and Rob Anderson
I suggest you lawyer up immediately. You want to be first in line when they declare bankruptcy. Choicebank suspended withdrawals - there's no coming back from that. Any trust people had in them is gone, and even if they do somehow manage to let people withdrawal money there will immediately be a run on the bank.
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I suggest you lawyer up immediately. You want to be first in line when they declare bankruptcy. Choicebank suspended withdrawals - there's no coming back from that. Any trust people had in them is gone, and even if they do somehow manage to let people withdrawal money there will immediately be a run on the bank.
exactly this...


hence youkandy closing down, they were owed 100 grand or something for models
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choice bank is in belize *warning* and their address is a p.o.box *extra warning*
how come payoneer and firstchoicepay made this deal with them in the first place? with this experience like yours most sponsors will stay away of payment systems and rely only in checks/wires to pay... who knows if paxum is next?
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I suggest you lawyer up immediately. You want to be first in line when they declare bankruptcy.
This

You need to get an attorney now and claim your place in line the sooner the better. No joke. Do not wait.
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choice bank is in belize *warning* and their address is a p.o.box *extra warning*
how come payoneer and firstchoicepay made this deal with them in the first place? with this experience like yours most sponsors will stay away of payment systems and rely only in checks/wires to pay... who knows if paxum is next?
Good info.

I made a thread here awhile back about where Paxum is hosted, and how. Totally anonymous on all fronts, no tracking them.

I totally respect people wanting privacy and all that I just made that thread to notify people in case they didn't know that they will have no recourse if something goes down. No shade on Paxum or anyone else.
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I suggest you lawyer up immediately. You want to be first in line when they declare bankruptcy. Choicebank suspended withdrawals - there's no coming back from that. Any trust people had in them is gone, and even if they do somehow manage to let people withdrawal money there will immediately be a run on the bank.

Thanks for the advice, I guess I have no other way, they kept throwing emails at me saying "they are working on it" and I just got another email where it says all debit card holders
have to spend all until 27th of May as deadline,

this smells like another epassporte, if anyone remembers that.
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Good info.

I made a thread here awhile back about where Paxum is hosted, and how. Totally anonymous on all fronts, no tracking them.

I totally respect people wanting privacy and all that I just made that thread to notify people in case they didn't know that they will have no recourse if something goes down. No shade on Paxum or anyone else.
I never worked with Paxum, but if you visit their site this is what you see
"The inflow of registrations over the past month has put additional pressures on our support and verification teams. In this light, we are advising that you may experience a delay of up to 15 days in processing your application and answering your support tickets. We apologize for this situation and hope to resolve it by June 1st." with Red

However Payoneer is trying to keep quiet, I dont hear much about them

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i would set something up and be transfer the daily limit to myself. have you called the bank and explained? this hit both companies. this is a gov block on the bank. dont know why you are targeting payoneer.
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this smells like another epassporte, if anyone remembers that.
You mean this one?

From: Christopher Mallick, Owner, ePassporte.com <http://ePassporte.com>

Dear ePassporte Account Holders,

Please be advised that, at 12:00 PM PDT today, September 2, 2010, we were notified that effective immediately, Visa International has suspended our banking partner’s (St. Kitts Nevis Anguilla National Bank) ePassporte Visa program. The ePassporte e-Wallet program continues to be up and running, except funds cannot be transferred between your Visa Account and your e-Wallet. At this time ePassporte can no longer issue Visa Cards, and the ability for our Account Holders to make point of sale purchases and withdraw funds from ATMs has also been suspended.

At this time we do not know why this drastic action was taken by Visa. To us, it is unconscionable that such action would be taken without the opportunity for ePassporte to fully understand Visa’s reasons and to be able to take all steps necessary to keep our program running the way it has so successfully done for over 7 years. But that is what Visa has done.

As soon as we have more information we will be in contact with you.

In the meantime please be assured that your funds are safe.

We are very sorry for the short notice and apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. The ePassporte team is working diligently to rectify this situation.

We kindly ask you to bear with us while we work through this issue.

Please feel free to contact us via the message center or at our call center, should you have any questions, comments or concerns.

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exactly this...


hence youkandy closing down, they were owed 100 grand or something for models


I thought everyone was able to withdrawal and nobody got burnt.

This changes things
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Paxum is not with FirstChoice anymore, right?
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I think nobody is with firstchoice anymore lol
Except for Payoneer, they founded Firstchoicepay in the first place and forced all their adult accounts to become part of that minefield.

And it's very suspicious that Payoneer "forgot" about their FirstChoicePay accounts when they moved all their other accounts away from Choice Bank about 2-3 months ago. Perhaps this is what caused the liquidity problem within Choice Bank?

It's ridiculous that there is absolutely no information out there from Payoneer/Firstchoicepay about the frozen funds, only some statements about what's on the card balance. And it has been over a month now.
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I think - the best way is starting fuck Payoneer for FirstChoicePay money
I think Payoneer have to pay for it
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I think you should inform the police. Apparently, Payoneer/FirstChoice are scammers, so besides a lawyer, the authorities should intervene here.
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this is why they went silent here. well one of the reasons. instead of trying to wait for them to fix the problem you put out attacks. op i sent you some info keep it to yourself please.
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@Dorin, i think you heard the news pretty late. Everyone here was able to withdraw funds from FCP before things got worst.
Did you try to withdraw thru ATM? Or tried purchasing online and it worked?

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this is why they went silent here. well one of the reasons. instead of trying to wait for them to fix the problem you put out attacks. op i sent you some info keep it to yourself please.
I also agree Payoneer are scammers or at least guilty of extremely bad management with their Firstchoicepay label and they should be sued. Now can I also have that message from you with Top Secret info to silence me from criticizing Payoneer?
I actually still have over 30K frozen there and that's after the only 10K FCP/Payoneer allowed everyone to withdraw after they froze all their FCP accounts overnight.
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I also agree Payoneer are scammers or at least guilty of extremely bad management with their Firstchoicepay label and they should be sued. Now can I also have that message from you with Top Secret info to silence me from criticizing Payoneer?
I actually still have over 30K frozen there and that's after the only 10K FCP/Payoneer allowed everyone to withdraw after they froze all their FCP accounts overnight.
it's no secret you could find it if you look. going to a movie im audi 5000 peace!! send me a email
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it's no secret you could find it if you look. going to a movie im audi 5000 peace!! send me a email
Apart from looking everywhere I have been in contact with them for over a month now so I will send you that email now to find out.
I wonder what you come up with because apparently it's so hard for Payoneer/FCP to make any open statement about the frozen funds in over a month, which is bad business practice in every handbook.
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Are you guys aware that FCB merged with another bigger bank and are now their subsidiary?

Have any of you bothered contacting the parent bank and the appropriate representative there?

First Choice Bancorp is the new holding bank of First Choice Bank. : 1-877-256- 9809

17785 Center Court, Suite 750. Cerritos, CA 90703

As of April 30th this year

First Choice Bancorp Registration Statement on Form S-4 Declared Effective by SEC

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First Choice Bancorp (“First Choice”) (NASDAQ Capital Market: FCBP) the holding company of First Choice Bank (“First Choice Bank,” and the “Bank”), and Pacific Commerce Bancorp (OTC Pink: PCBC), the holding company for Pacific Commerce Bank, today jointly announced that the First Choice registration statement on Form S-4, which contains the joint proxy statement/prospectus for the First Choice and Pacific Commerce Bancorp merger transaction, was declared effective by the Securities and Exchange Commission on April 30, 2018.
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Are you guys aware that FCB merged with another bigger bank and are now their subsidiary?

Have any of you bothered contacting the parent bank and the appropriate representative there?

First Choice Bancorp is the new holding bank of First Choice Bank. : 1-877-256- 9809

17785 Center Court, Suite 750. Cerritos, CA 90703

As of April 30th this year

First Choice Bancorp Registration Statement on Form S-4 Declared Effective by SEC

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If you need to include details with any sensitive information, please call us at 662-489-1631

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First Choice Bancorp (“First Choice”) (NASDAQ Capital Market: FCBP) the holding company of First Choice Bank (“First Choice Bank,” and the “Bank”), and Pacific Commerce Bancorp (OTC Pink: PCBC), the holding company for Pacific Commerce Bank, today jointly announced that the First Choice registration statement on Form S-4, which contains the joint proxy statement/prospectus for the First Choice and Pacific Commerce Bancorp merger transaction, was declared effective by the Securities and Exchange Commission on April 30, 2018.
None of these banks seem to be related to CHOICE Bank or Firstchoicepay / Payoneer.
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None of these banks seem to be related to CHOICE Bank or Firstchoicepay / Payoneer.
So who is then? Or am I the only one capable of Googling to help here?
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So who is then? Or am I the only one capable of Googling to help here?
Try googling Choice Bank and you'll find the Belize based bank Payoneer made a partnership with: http://www.choicebankltd.com/
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Gathering a team, we are probably going to make a big Media scandal, we are probably going to include Payoneer.com in it.

I initially was part of Payoneer business, but they came at me with some confusion explanations that they are changing the logo, but its the same company, and so on
so they were not completly honest.
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Also the funny part is that they accidentally sent me over 200K by mistake, and I returned them back the very NExT Day!, they thanked me a million, said im their best friend which holds a special place in their heart, so they sent me a hat, a tshirt and a notebook
for which I had to pay 50$ in customs.

I am "glad" I was such a good guy.,

Any ideas on how to make this a PR nightmare?
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Old 05-18-2018, 09:19 AM   #40
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I didn't get any additional info from Brassmonkey, more of the same basically, but there is an important update now from the disastrous Payoneer / Firstchoicepay / Choice Bank partnership:
They are contacting the accounts with over 50K frozen to negociate a 70% pay back. Meaning you will lose 30% on that $00000 amount.

The Prime Minister of Belize mentions a bank run as the cause of Choice Bank's liquidity crisis:
http://www.7newsbelize.com/sstory.php?nid=44765

A bank run that seems to have been caused by Payoneer pulling all their mainstream accounts away from Choice Bank just weeks before the crisis started.
For some reason Payoneer left their adultbizz customers (Firstchoicepay) in the dark knowing full well what would happen to them.

If anyone ends up losing 30% or any other %, I would claim that part from Payoneer since they seem to be responsible for this whole mess.
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Old 05-18-2018, 09:27 AM   #41
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Old 06-05-2018, 10:17 AM   #42
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I need ideas, what can I do to pressure Payoneer into taking responsability and paying me ? if I lose 30%, that is huge money, especially since i had to borrow the whole amount and i need to pay back 120%.

Any good ideas?

Thank you!
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Old 06-05-2018, 04:10 PM   #43
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Lol you still didn't lawyer up? What's wrong with you wtf. No pressure will be done without legal at this point, and even then its questionable. I don't get it.
And you have to pay back 120%? Where did you take that loan from, a loanshark? Because 20% interest is illegal anywhere i can think of.
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Old 06-05-2018, 10:51 PM   #44
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you will lose 30% and won't get anything back
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why did you bring me into this?? and you did get the info from me
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I didn't get any additional info from Brassmonkey, more of the same basically, but there is an important update now from the disastrous Payoneer / Firstchoicepay / Choice Bank partnership:
They are contacting the accounts with over 50K frozen to negociate a 70% pay back. Meaning you will lose 30% on that $00000 amount.

The Prime Minister of Belize mentions a bank run as the cause of Choice Bank's liquidity crisis:
http://www.7newsbelize.com/sstory.php?nid=44765

A bank run that seems to have been caused by Payoneer pulling all their mainstream accounts away from Choice Bank just weeks before the crisis started.
For some reason Payoneer left their adultbizz customers (Firstchoicepay) in the dark knowing full well what would happen to them.

If anyone ends up losing 30% or any other %, I would claim that part from Payoneer since they seem to be responsible for this whole mess.
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Old 06-06-2018, 11:49 PM   #46
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I need ideas, what can I do to pressure Payoneer into taking responsability and paying me ? if I lose 30%, that is huge money, especially since i had to borrow the whole amount and i need to pay back 120%.

Any good ideas?

Thank you!

Do you have a contract with Choice Bank or with Payoneer/FirstChoicePay?
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Old 06-07-2018, 02:42 PM   #47
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Old 06-20-2018, 05:46 AM   #48
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why did you bring me into this?? and you did get the info from me
Read what I said: you didn't five any ADDITIONAL info - which you claimed to have. You basically said the same as the useless Firstchoicepay/Payoneer support: just keep calm and wait for a wire transfer and you will get your money back.
A wire transfer that was promised by Choice over 2 weeks ago and still no sign...

After June 30 the website of FCP will go down and there will be no record anymore of our earnings.

The perfect crime from Payoneer and Choice Bank, who according to some info seem to have the same founder...
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I talked with the CEO of payoneer on the phone, even thought I did business with them, they dont want to take fault, they keep blaming First Choice , and are acting silent
which upsets me.

We should find a way to pressure them
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Old 06-20-2018, 06:15 AM   #50
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Read what I said: you didn't five any ADDITIONAL info - which you claimed to have. You basically said the same as the useless Firstchoicepay/Payoneer support: just keep calm and wait for a wire transfer and you will get your money back.
A wire transfer that was promised by Choice over 2 weeks ago and still no sign...

After June 30 the website of FCP will go down and there will be no record anymore of our earnings.

The perfect crime from Payoneer and Choice Bank, who according to some info seem to have the same founder...

Yes Payoneer worked hand in hand with Choice Bank, they are a billion dollar company, they should take responsability.

When they sent me the FirstChoice contract they said and I quote "its Payoneer to the bones, its the same system, WE launched a new system"

when you say WE dont you take responsability?
I wonder if that would fly in court. I mean zuckerberg paid money on emails
for the ideas he "took" right? to the twins,

clearly payoneer wanted to take the profit, so they should take the blame right?
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