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His Infernal Majesty · 04-16-2018, 03:36 PM

I have already addressed why we stopped adding fhg. Thank you for the advice. Please remove all our content from your sites. We will not touch the rebills. You earned them. But we want no further business with you.

Grisey · 04-16-2018, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by His Infernal Majesty

I have already addressed why we stopped adding fhg. Thank you for the advice. Please remove all our content from your sites. We will not touch the rebills. You earned them. But we want no further business with you.

Because people used it from your own sites. so why you now whining yet again when people do that ?

If you don't want people to do that email out FHG, do whine that no one has used FHG because YOU haven't updated it in a year, so you actually stopped 3 months before i got the sites.

Yet if i didn't use the content you would be asking why she wasn't on the sites.

SBJ · 04-16-2018, 03:45 PM

I'm removing all content but as I have like 10 free sites it will take some time to remove it all.. Maybe I'll clean one site a day.

Good luck

His Infernal Majesty · 04-16-2018, 03:46 PM

We never asked you to promote our site. You purchased off an old afffilaite and it’s been nothing but problems with you since. I never had issues like this with anyone else. Please remove our content. Thank you!

His Infernal Majesty · 04-16-2018, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SBJ

I'm removing all content but as I have like 10 free sites it will take some time to remove it all.. Maybe I'll clean one site a day.

Good luck

That’s up to you ether way. Good luck to you, too.

Grisey · 04-16-2018, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by His Infernal Majesty

We never asked you to promote our site. You purchased off an old afffilaite and it’s been nothing but problems with you since. I never had issues like this with anyone else. Please remove our content. Thank you!

You on Crack your thread on NNM was directed at people that didn't promote pattycake and you would steal rebills unless they made a sale.

That whole thread according to you was to motivate people to promote pattycake.

Again catch 22 if you are going to see you arse then people use the content you post, because there is nothing else.

His Infernal Majesty · 04-16-2018, 03:59 PM

So at what point am I the jerk for sending a DMCA to this guy?

Grisey · 04-16-2018, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by His Infernal Majesty

So at what point am I the jerk for sending a DMCA to this guy?

Do as you please man FFS

You seem nicer on GFY maybe you should come here more often

You don't seem to have huge fucking ego you have on NNM were you are right in every post ( in youre mind)

phil-flash · 04-16-2018, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Grisey

Originally Posted by Grisey
Honestly

Phil ~ Everyone has seen the content a zillion times, but the $5 sales are o.k but if your buying traffic you might want to think higher value.... but hes been selling this month because of nikki topless pics
Phad ~ His girls don't update enough to keep sending sales as no content to promote them with, Lex nai = july, brooke marks 1 set every 2 months, bailey maybe 6 to 8 weeks every new set, re adding zips makes sales but if you are aiming for sales to rebill its a hard push
Pattycake ~ still makes good sales and good rebills but rebills are well down this month and sales compared to last few months and the new zip has been the worse seller for me since starting again. But she does good soild rebills to keep sending traffic
Spunky ~ I pick the odd sale up here and there and rebill also, i just hate micheals content .... no offense spunky :P
Zishy ~ he bangs a set out every 2 days and good tease/nude tease content, low value join $6.99 to webby or $21 for year buys.
Ariel ~ Shooting naughty content and pick up sales to her
Andiland ~ started doing weekly sales with andi now rebills are abit slow
FTV ~ high ratio but still sells and rebills good

That is a honest critic based on my sales and traffic

I just wanted to point out, that just this past week or so I upped my pricing for initial joins, so on new sales you should see a 100% bump... and on rebills, they will still be a low price point, but if you are patient... they will grow and hopefully add up. I am seeing my 6 plus month rebills grow a lot since the reinvigoration-ism of my sites.

Sorry for the topic derailment...

Grisey · 04-16-2018, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by phil-flash

I just wanted to point out, that just this past week or so I upped my pricing for initial joins, so on new sales you should see a 100% bump... and on rebills, they will still be a low price point, but if you are patient... they will grow and hopefully add up. I am seeing my 6 plus month rebills grow a lot since the reinvigoration-ism of my sites.

Sorry for the topic derailment...

0003-phil-flash.com

Trial

011809870600000

$14.52

Already have, Thanks Phil

phil-flash · 04-16-2018, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Grisey

0003-phil-flash.com

Trial

011809870600000

$14.52

Already have, Thanks Phil

Booyah!

Here's to many many more!

BTW, I dunno if you were interested, but the "in his 40's" Timlover seemed interested in POTD's... now that I know how to code, I am bringing it back. I am still working on getting the code into phil-flash-cash, but here is the page? Is it cool or gaaaaaay? Jenifer DeMaria's first sexy non nude photo shoot preview

TrashyContent · 04-17-2018, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by phil-flash

Booyah!

Here's to many many more!

BTW, I dunno if you were interested, but the "in his 40's" Timlover seemed interested in POTD's... now that I know how to code, I am bringing it back. I am still working on getting the code into phil-flash-cash, but here is the page? Is it cool or gaaaaaay? Jenifer DeMaria's first sexy non nude photo shoot preview

Hmmmm I guess I will have to show Phil some love on my new SLUT BANK site... sorry I hadn't spammed about it for a whole

Shame I am such a small freesite that no one will want to trade with me, as His Infernal Majesty also pointed out to belittle me...

phil-flash · 04-17-2018, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TrashyContent

Hmmmm I guess I will have to show Phil some love on my new SLUT BANK site... sorry I hadn't spammed about it for a whole

Shame I am such a small freesite that no one will want to trade with me, as His Infernal Majesty also pointed out to belittle me...

I think I will show this girl some love... https://ilovechloetoy.com

You got my top left spot in my members area for a week (to see how it goes)... but you have to send me that photo set with the hello kitty stockings and pigtails, so that I can smoke one off to her and create a custom banner.

I await your email

TrashyContent · 04-17-2018, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by phil-flash

I think I will show this girl some love... https://ilovechloetoy.com

You got my top left spot in my members area for a week (to see how it goes)... but you have to send me that photo set with the hello kitty stockings and pigtails, so that I can smoke one off to her and create a custom banner.

I await your email

You want it in drop box ? PM me your email and how you want the set sent ;)

Believe it or not my best selling site on Model Centro is my own POV Gonzo site FAT MAN FUCK it actually converts real good... but not sure you could handle looking at my little pecker lol

jscott · 04-17-2018, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by His Infernal Majesty

What is private information? sales numbers? I didn't bring this here and I tried very hard to talk in private with you. I feel what you did was kind of two-faced, but if you want an apology for the original post on NNM, I'm sorry that I posted that. I should've had a better way to do things. But I still wish to not have any future contact/business with you, so you can remove the links and we can both go our own ways. Good luck!

two-faced? I said you're a thief if you steal affiliates rebills, how can I become more transparent than that?

His Infernal Majesty · 04-17-2018, 08:27 AM

We stole no one's rebills. We were having a private discussion with some affiliates. I already apologized, as you requested, for using the terms I did. But it was a discussion on the private board and not on here.

We are a program that vented some frustrations over the state of things. This is true.

But, it is also true, that we are a program who has paid people steadily for 17 years, and reached out to try to help affiliates make more sales. I was "mean" to some of the other guys who posted here on the other board. There were other histories and backstories that surround that, though. But I was very nice to you. We did not have other surrounding issues, and I valued your opinion.

phil-flash · 04-17-2018, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TrashyContent

You want it in drop box ? PM me your email and how you want the set sent ;)

Believe it or not my best selling site on Model Centro is my own POV Gonzo site FAT MAN FUCK it actually converts real good... but not sure you could handle looking at my little pecker lol

PMed you, but forgot to give you my email.

[email protected] <-- spammarrest will send you a human verify email. Look for it.

TrashyContent · 04-17-2018, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by phil-flash

PMed you, but forgot to give you my email.

[email protected] <-- spammarrest will send you a human verify email. Look for it.

On it now...

His Infernal Majesty · 04-17-2018, 02:47 PM

Phil... did you get the email???

I don’t know about anyone else, but the suspense is killing me!

TrashyContent · 04-17-2018, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by His Infernal Majesty

Phil... did you get the email???

I don’t know about anyone else, but the suspense is killing me!

I can send you one as well if you like ?

rayadp05 · 04-17-2018, 06:09 PM

I've been running, maintaining and shooting content for my CCBill pay site TrueAmateurModels.com for 13 years now and I have many, many affiliates that are sending in re-bills every month.

I have NEVER EVEN THOUGH ABOUT doing that before .....and of course, I never would do that to my affiliates. That's just really fucked up.

I would imagine that as soon as those emails are sent out, that program would most likely LOSE a lot of those re-bills as a result of the affiliate saying .... um okay, no problem. I'll just remove all of your links from my site. That way, neither one of us will make money.

I can see this type of shit really backfiring onto the program owner. Shitty move to make on your affiliates ...whether they are still promoting your content or not.

Kittens · 04-17-2018, 08:04 PM

I don't blame the guy, have you see the girl in his sig? Bow wow. I wouldn't sign up for that shit either. He's trying to make money before it ends.

His Infernal Majesty, your attitude sucks, your ethics suck, your site sucks. I hope you lose any affiliate you had that sent sales.

His Infernal Majesty · 04-17-2018, 08:24 PM

Well, we didn't, except for you, perhaps, Kittens. I don't know what you run to know if I should be too upset or not, though. But I'm sure it is a very high traffic site, so I will just bow my head in shame. Thank you for the constructive criticism, though. I am sorry the model is not to your liking. If I ever open another one I will ask you if I should even bother.

rayadp05, I am a familiar with your site. I wish you much luck for the next 13 years and that any affiliates who want to drop my site to put up your site or Phil Flash's or even Ttrashy's content in its place! I would never jump on the back of another paysite, so good luck, sir!

Matyko · 04-18-2018, 05:15 AM

not a nice move

Grisey · 04-18-2018, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kittens

I don't blame the guy, have you see the girl in his sig? Bow wow. I wouldn't sign up for that shit either. He's trying to make money before it ends.

Pattycake converts.... Period

Could the site do with being updated/mobile re designed etc... Maybe

But she does convert.

TrashyContent · 04-18-2018, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Grisey

Pattycake converts.... Period

Could the site do with being updated/mobile re designed etc... Maybe

But she does convert.

I believe the site as been very successful, I am sure it's down to her cute look and from what I have seen/experienced fun/bubbly personality... shame it doesn't wear off onto Anthony as well... as he reminded me the other day whilst belittling me (again) he paid out more to affiliates in one day than I have in the 17 years I been in business... so I am guessing his stuff must be doing really really well...

His Infernal Majesty · 04-18-2018, 10:21 AM

Totty, the 6-to-1 argument on the private board wasn't fair enough odds for you, so you brought it here. So, you are definitely are way meaner and dirtier than I could ever be! We have no business relationship, link trades, affiliates, etc, but you still went out of your way to try to hurt my business. Kudos to you!

People on there got to work a bit, though, and that was all I really wanted. Even if they took my stuff down and replaced it with other paysites. Nothing else I tried was working. You benefitted from an upsell on Phil Flash's paysites now. Maybe that will bring a beautiful new sale into the world. Please stop playing the victim. I'm done posting on there. And when this stops getting bumped, I will be done posting on here, too. You won, sir! #TeamSlutBank

sarettah · 04-18-2018, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by His Infernal Majesty

Totty, the 6-to-1 argument on the private board wasn't fair enough odds for you, so you brought it here.

For the record, until you posted I had no idea what program they were talking about, everyone was pretty careful not to name it at all.

It was when you started posting that I found out what program it was and what the name of the private board was.

That's just me, I can't speak for anyone else.

.

His Infernal Majesty · 04-18-2018, 11:46 AM

It was mentioned before I posted, and they posted on the other board about this thread, which was the only reason I knew about it. I haven't been on here in two years. I get that you are probably not familiar with my program, so didn't get the references. Solo is a very small niche. Like I said before all this sounds stupid when taken off the original board.

sarettah · 04-18-2018, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by His Infernal Majesty

It was mentioned before I posted, and they posted on the other board about this thread, which was the only reason I knew about it. I haven't been on here in two years. I get that you are probably not familiar with my program, so didn't get the references. Solo is a very small niche. Like I said before all this sounds stupid when taken off the original board.

The only mention I see prior to you posting was SBJ posting the Hillary-Ellen Lesbian pattycake video.

That was cryptic enough to not give most people a clue.

You outed yourself and the private board, but go ahead and spin it however you wish. The proof is there to be seen.

.

His Infernal Majesty · 04-18-2018, 12:09 PM

Someone mentioned the name. Don't know what I'm trying to spin? But ok.

It's a good thing if more people join and post on the private board. At least, I think so. There is a lot of good information on there from through the years about how to promote solo sites.

TrashyContent · 04-18-2018, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by His Infernal Majesty

Totty, the 6-to-1 argument on the private board wasn't fair enough odds for you, so you brought it here. So, you are definitely are way meaner and dirtier than I could ever be! We have no business relationship, link trades, affiliates, etc, but you still went out of your way to try to hurt my business. Kudos to you!

People on there got to work a bit, though, and that was all I really wanted. Even if they took my stuff down and replaced it with other paysites. Nothing else I tried was working. You benefitted from an upsell on Phil Flash's paysites now. Maybe that will bring a beautiful new sale into the world. Please stop playing the victim. I'm done posting on there. And when this stops getting bumped, I will be done posting on here, too. You won, sir! #TeamSlutBank

You are right we have no business relationship, that was due to you attacking me for no apparent reason on the Private Board, belittling what I was trying to do from the off... but that's cool, I always been kicked on that board, oh look at me playing the victim, no that's me playing I don't give a fuck...

As a paysite owner I have struggled to have the success you have with your one site... well done Sir... I have had 5 programs, and 3 major partnerships, none that have really gone how we'd hoped... but I am still fighting to make a success of it as best I can...

But as you pointed out on the Private Board, I am out my depth, no one will want to work with me, trade with me as I am not as ELITE as them, not to the same level as them... which may be true, but we all got to start somewhere...

The new free site for me is me trying every thing to make the sites a success, trying to evolve... yes I don't have the skills to do it myself, so I paid a tech guy (web developer) to do it for me... if it's successful I wont have the same condescending tone as you of that I am sure...

I brought this thread here because you again belittled the opinion of those who were commenting against what you said you was going to do... so I thought I would seek others opinions on GFY... and I think we can say it's quite a resounding landslide...

How the flying fuck was I trying to "hurt" your business, are you really that fucking dumb and bent on attacking me, putting things on me, does that make you feel better ? I never once mentioned your program name, the models name or your name before your silly ass came in here and just blew shit up ! Others may of hinted at who you were, but I certainly didn't and wouldn't have, even if I had been asked on here or in private...

I have no motivation to hurt your business, in fairness you was doing wayyyyyy too good a job at that as it was... I was trying to show you that it was a bad idea to make such a change, if you want to make me out as the villain then so be it... Your PR and Marketing skills are shit mate, how you have been a success fuck knows... it really must be the model and her personality...

Anyways I will let you keep blaming me, it's obviously what you need to do to make yourself feel better with the situation... not the victim, but definitely not the villain...

His Infernal Majesty · 04-18-2018, 01:31 PM

Did Phil ever get back in touch with you?

TrashyContent · 04-18-2018, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by His Infernal Majesty

Did Phil ever get back in touch with you?

Is that a trick question ? I have a lot of time for Phil, I acknowledge his success, and believe it or not (he'll hate me for this) but I see a similarity in our styles... even though he's obviously been I would guesstimate 10,000 ish times more successful than I ever had...

He made a request to me to promote one of my new sites... and I supplied him with what he needed, as I would do anyone else who wanted to promote any of our stuff...

I will reciprocate and definitely push some of his stuff as well on our new freesite, and if possible else where... And yes he confirmed he had received the stuff I sent over, even after a little technical issue we had, needless to say I am really excited at the promotion through such a successful webmaster and his network...

His Infernal Majesty · 04-18-2018, 01:50 PM

No, it makes me happy when people work together to make sales. I even stated that above that I hope it leads to new sales.

TrashyContent · 04-18-2018, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by His Infernal Majesty

No, it makes me happy when people work together to make sales. I even stated that above that I hope it leads to new sales.

Guess it's a shame we got off on the wrong foot then... and we didn't get to work together...

Anyways I am taking it you not bringing in the new rules you was thinking about ? We've all had that idea we all thought was golden, trust me I had a fair few in my time... and my ego stopped me from listening to people and realising in fact it was a cluster fuck waiting to happen... hopefully with age (yes I am very old) I have mellowed a little and now listen before I jump... sometimes I still jump... but usually not

04-16-2018, 03:45 PM	#103
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04-17-2018, 06:09 PM	#121
rayadp05 TRUEAMATEURMODELS.COM Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TrueAmateurModels.com Posts: 4,186	I've been running, maintaining and shooting content for my CCBill pay site TrueAmateurModels.com for 13 years now and I have many, many affiliates that are sending in re-bills every month. I have NEVER EVEN THOUGH ABOUT doing that before .....and of course, I never would do that to my affiliates. That's just really fucked up. I would imagine that as soon as those emails are sent out, that program would most likely LOSE a lot of those re-bills as a result of the affiliate saying .... um okay, no problem. I'll just remove all of your links from my site. That way, neither one of us will make money. I can see this type of shit really backfiring onto the program owner. Shitty move to make on your affiliates ...whether they are still promoting your content or not. __________________ TrueAmateurModels.com Twitter TrueAmateurModels.com Affiliate Program

04-17-2018, 08:04 PM	#122
Kittens 👏 REVOLUTIONARY 👏 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 1,440	I don't blame the guy, have you see the girl in his sig? Bow wow. I wouldn't sign up for that shit either. He's trying to make money before it ends. His Infernal Majesty, your attitude sucks, your ethics suck, your site sucks. I hope you lose any affiliate you had that sent sales. __________________

04-18-2018, 05:15 AM	#124
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04-16-2018, 03:36 PM	#101
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 468	I have already addressed why we stopped adding fhg. Thank you for the advice. Please remove all our content from your sites. We will not touch the rebills. You earned them. But we want no further business with you.

04-16-2018, 03:46 PM	#104
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 468	We never asked you to promote our site. You purchased off an old afffilaite and it’s been nothing but problems with you since. I never had issues like this with anyone else. Please remove our content. Thank you!

04-16-2018, 03:59 PM	#107
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 468	So at what point am I the jerk for sending a DMCA to this guy?

04-17-2018, 08:27 AM	#116
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 468	We stole no one's rebills. We were having a private discussion with some affiliates. I already apologized, as you requested, for using the terms I did. But it was a discussion on the private board and not on here. We are a program that vented some frustrations over the state of things. This is true. But, it is also true, that we are a program who has paid people steadily for 17 years, and reached out to try to help affiliates make more sales. I was "mean" to some of the other guys who posted here on the other board. There were other histories and backstories that surround that, though. But I was very nice to you. We did not have other surrounding issues, and I valued your opinion.

04-17-2018, 02:47 PM	#119
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 468	Phil... did you get the email??? I don’t know about anyone else, but the suspense is killing me!

04-17-2018, 08:24 PM	#123
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 468	Well, we didn't, except for you, perhaps, Kittens. I don't know what you run to know if I should be too upset or not, though. But I'm sure it is a very high traffic site, so I will just bow my head in shame. Thank you for the constructive criticism, though. I am sorry the model is not to your liking. If I ever open another one I will ask you if I should even bother. rayadp05, I am a familiar with your site. I wish you much luck for the next 13 years and that any affiliates who want to drop my site to put up your site or Phil Flash's or even Ttrashy's content in its place! I would never jump on the back of another paysite, so good luck, sir!

04-18-2018, 10:21 AM	#127
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 468	Totty, the 6-to-1 argument on the private board wasn't fair enough odds for you, so you brought it here. So, you are definitely are way meaner and dirtier than I could ever be! We have no business relationship, link trades, affiliates, etc, but you still went out of your way to try to hurt my business. Kudos to you! People on there got to work a bit, though, and that was all I really wanted. Even if they took my stuff down and replaced it with other paysites. Nothing else I tried was working. You benefitted from an upsell on Phil Flash's paysites now. Maybe that will bring a beautiful new sale into the world. Please stop playing the victim. I'm done posting on there. And when this stops getting bumped, I will be done posting on here, too. You won, sir! #TeamSlutBank

04-18-2018, 11:46 AM	#129
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 468	It was mentioned before I posted, and they posted on the other board about this thread, which was the only reason I knew about it. I haven't been on here in two years. I get that you are probably not familiar with my program, so didn't get the references. Solo is a very small niche. Like I said before all this sounds stupid when taken off the original board.

04-18-2018, 12:09 PM	#131
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 468	Someone mentioned the name. Don't know what I'm trying to spin? But ok. It's a good thing if more people join and post on the private board. At least, I think so. There is a lot of good information on there from through the years about how to promote solo sites.

04-18-2018, 01:31 PM	#133
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 468	Did Phil ever get back in touch with you?

04-18-2018, 01:50 PM	#135
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 468	No, it makes me happy when people work together to make sales. I even stated that above that I hope it leads to new sales.