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Old 04-16-2018, 02:36 AM   #51
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i do not have a greater than thou attitude, at all. You spam a lot. You can deny it, and people are so mad at me right now that they won't agree with anything I say, but it's annoying. You also made some weird comment about how all these "big programs" you talk to put down affiliates in private and don't care to create tools for them anymore. But if only affiliates promoted you, you would give them the world. It was something like that.

There are really only three or four solo paysite programs left, and they all bend over backwards for affiliates. So, that bothered me that you said that.

All this sounds stupid on here out of context, but you decided to bring it here to try to shame me and that is fine. I'll take the bumps, I deserve them!

I don't have anything else to say to you, though. Good luck to you, too.
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Old 04-16-2018, 02:51 AM   #52
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i do not have a greater than thou attitude, at all. You spam a lot. You can deny it, and people are so mad at me right now that they won't agree with anything I say, but it's annoying. You also made some weird comment about how all these "big programs" you talk to put down affiliates in private and don't care to create tools for them anymore. But if only affiliates promoted you, you would give them the world. It was something like that.

There are really only three or four solo paysite programs left, and they all bend over backwards for affiliates. So, that bothered me that you said that.

All this sounds stupid on here out of context, but you decided to bring it here to try to shame me and that is fine. I'll take the bumps, I deserve them!

I don't have anything else to say to you, though. Good luck to you, too.
LOL even your screen name sums up your attitude... Your putting words in my mouth right, I didn't say we would or could give people the world... far from it.

I mentioned the new freesite I am launching, that's me as a business trying to evolve, and realise that my own traffic is important, yes I know after 17 years, bit late in the day...

But yes I was surprised talking to some of the biggest programs out there, some don't do TGP's for example, I guess a reflection of how tubes have taken over... I am glad you posted the NNMasters link, could you link the exact thread ? People really do need to read it...

I didn't comment until page 4... but there had already been comments before me (like everyone who commented) telling you that you was WRONG. That's the bit your struggling with right, the fact you was so WRONG.

My original comment so people can see what let me in for this tirad of abuse was simply this...

Quote "Sorry but this thread does make me chuckle... I can only imagine how this thread would of gone if someone like "puretotty" had posted he was doing this... of course it is Anthony's choice how they run their business... me personally I can't agree with the idea, I am a paysite owner, and I have sales that have been rebilling for years, some we made through type in's... some from affiliates, from my prospective, regardless of new sales, or even new traffic... the affiliate helped generate that sale and they are entitled to their share for however long the member stays...

I do agree a lot had changed, I get a real feel with that now we're launching SlutBank.com I can't believe talking to some of the biggest programs out there, how little they seem to care for affiliates any more, and the lack of content/promo for affiliates, it does appear a lot have given up on the idea of FHG's for example...

Anyways any one can do what they want, of course other people likewise can respond to that action however they want too..." End Quote...

Yeah I am definitely the bad guy...
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Old 04-16-2018, 02:56 AM   #53
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My username is a name of a dumb band I liked in 2004 when I signed up on here. I don't know how to change it, and I don't post on here often enough that it matters.

They need to join the board and then be approved to read the thread, so not sure what linking it directly would do. It is a private board, remember that part?

Hope it brings some new blood on there!

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I do agree a lot had changed, I get a real feel with that now we're launching SlutBank.com I can't believe talking to some of the biggest programs out there, how little they seem to care for affiliates any more, and the lack of content/promo for affiliates, it does appear a lot have given up on the idea of FHG's for example...
There, I did some more spam for you. Like I said, good luck!
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My username is a name of a dumb band I liked in 2004 when I signed up on here. I don't know how to change it, and I don't post on here often enough that it matters.

They need to join the board and then be approved to read the thread, so not sure what linking it directly would do. It is a private board, remember that part?

Hope it brings some new blood on there!



There, I did some more spam for you. Like I said, good luck!
Anthony is part of #TeamSlutBank

And believe it or not I really do mean Good Luck to you, whether you believe it or not... I believe you had an idea, you now hopefully realise it isn't the great idea you thought and you wont implement it... every one can do as they please as I originally stated, every one can also come up with that cluster fuck of an idea... it's just whether they follow through on it when they realise it's a cluster fuck... so yeah even though I am sure you and Patty don't need my well wishes, they are sincere...
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Old 04-16-2018, 05:15 AM   #55
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Well, there is a bit of a misrepresentation going on here

On a private board with a couple of affiliates who have been around a while, I told them there was a change I was THINKING about and basically wanted to know their thoughts.


That SBJ guy and jScott have NO SALES OR REBILLS for two years now. Am I ripping them off by not wanting to do business with them anymore?
So yeah. I guess this is what it is.



We were NOT removing anyone's rebills, though we are now cutting ties with a few people for misrepresenting the thread. We do want to renegotiate our TOS with affiliates who no longer update their sites, though. Is that really so bad?
Really it's bad enough you posted my sales or lack of sales on a private board but now you are actually as it turns out posting LIES on a public board. After more digging in my stats I actually have made a sale in the last year. "2017-11-06 10:40:30 "

And as I said at the other board maybe I'd be more apt to update your promo if you sent out affiliate promo via email like every other program alive. When was the last time you updated your promo on your cash program? yup a year ago.

I put you on ignore at the other site cause I was tired of the one-sided convo. If you continue the same here I will do so here too.

Dude, how is your Alisa Kiss site doing? oh, that's right you deleted it without giving anyone notice via email. My bad.
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ok i'm debating 2 things here now , as SBJ just said, sharing private affiliate info is pretty fucked

situation 1: he apologizes, admits he was wrong about sharing private webmaster information no matter the size or scale, and admits that stealing old affiliate rebills is .... well, theft. And from there we can look towards future of possibly building traffic and sales back to his sites.

situation 2: tell this piece of shit to delete my account i dont want anything to do with his sites or program anymore, once he does delete my account, i will remove all links (not that i make sales anyways), and anytime a mention of that site is brought up, i'll go into full explanatory mode.
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Old 04-16-2018, 09:42 AM   #57
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Well, there is a bit of a misrepresentation going on here

On a private board with a couple of affiliates who have been around a while, I told them there was a change I was THINKING about and basically wanted to know their thoughts.
BULLSHIT Full of LIES


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New Pattycake Rules

You can consider them active now. This is the official notice. You have been a real jerk to me for a while now and then even rude to Patty.
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New rules are already in affect. the "thinking" part is over with

These are the rules i have to stick to and i'm happy to tho

1) Pattycake affiliate accounts are no longer transferrable without our approval. This means you cannot transfer your affiliate account if you sell your site without talking to us first.

2) If you make zero new sales in a one-year-period, we reserve the right to delete your affiliate account.

3) Can no longer spam Freeones (board or link pages) without our approval. We don't like to see repeated links on there.

4) You must have an active freesite currently promoting us.

Now I'm happy to stick to the new rules i'm not a lazy webmaster. But if you want other affiliates to step up anthony step up your game as a programme owner, Nikki/madden every monday FHG without fail.

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Old 04-16-2018, 10:11 AM   #58
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2) If you make zero new sales in a one-year-period, we reserve the right to delete your affiliate account.
Hmmm, isn't it up to the paysite to make the sale? All an affiliate can do is send the traffic.

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Old 04-16-2018, 10:22 AM   #59
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And as I said at the other board maybe I'd be more apt to update your promo if you sent out affiliate promo via email like every other program alive. When was the last time you updated your promo on your cash program? yup a year ago.
The updates on your sites were all older content than a year, we have been through that.


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I put you on ignore at the other site cause I was tired of the one-sided convo. If you continue the same here I will do so here too.
I am fine to not to business with you.


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Dude, how is your Alisa Kiss site doing? oh, that's right you deleted it without giving anyone notice via email. My bad.
It closed down and all affiliates who were sending sales were notified. How is your BBW exgf paysite that you had all stolen content on?
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The updates on your sites were all older content than a year, we have been through that.

I am fine to not to business with you.

It closed down and all affiliates who were sending sales were notified. How is your BBW exgf paysite that you had all stolen content on?

Another fine lesson in proper Affiliate Support etiquette

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Old 04-16-2018, 10:28 AM   #61
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ok i'm debating 2 things here now , as SBJ just said, sharing private affiliate info is pretty fucked

situation 1: he apologizes, admits he was wrong about sharing private webmaster information no matter the size or scale, and admits that stealing old affiliate rebills is .... well, theft. And from there we can look towards future of possibly building traffic and sales back to his sites.

situation 2: tell this piece of shit to delete my account i dont want anything to do with his sites or program anymore, once he does delete my account, i will remove all links (not that i make sales anyways), and anytime a mention of that site is brought up, i'll go into full explanatory mode.

What is private information? sales numbers? I didn't bring this here and I tried very hard to talk in private with you. I feel what you did was kind of two-faced, but if you want an apology for the original post on NNM, I'm sorry that I posted that. I should've had a better way to do things. But I still wish to not have any future contact/business with you, so you can remove the links and we can both go our own ways. Good luck!
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The updates on your sites were all older content than a year, we have been through that.




I am fine to not to business with you.




It closed down and all affiliates who were sending sales were notified. How is your BBW exgf paysite that you had all stolen content on?

OMG you are full of fucking shit! you tell me I haven't had sales or rebills in 2 years and actually i've had like 7 rebills in last 2 years and a sale in last year.. you say i haven't posted any of your stuff in over a year but yet I have this on many of my sites
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I don't list YOUR stuff cause you don't do promo.. you expect people to post content they see on your nips and other affilaite sites rather than provide content and FHGs..

lol you bring up my ex gf sites I haven't ran in over 3 yrs? lol

I'll be glad to be done with you BULLSHIT!


You sure aren't a people person are you? lol don't bother responding cause you have shown your true colors to everyone here.
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I just don't want to deal with you anymore.

What is the proper and fair protocol to cut ties with an affiliate who you do not want to keep working with?

Obviously, I went about it the wrong way, so what is the RIGHT way?
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Another fine lesson in proper Affiliate Support etiquette

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It appears Mr Majesty graduated from the Alpha Sky School of Affiliate Management.
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OMG I forgot about that program.. YES THIS! lol
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His_Infernal_Majesty,

Did you used to go by the name of AlphaSky by any chance?

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I apologize, you had an active rebill that ran out in Jan 2017 from a sale you made sometime before 2014, so you did have a rebill since two years ago. I shouldn't have grouped you in saying that you had no sales or rebills in two years.
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Fuck, you beat me to it. Dammit.

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His_Infernal_Majesty,

Did you used to go by the name of AlfaSky by any chance?

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I'm sorry, I don't know what that is, can you please fill me in?
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I apologize, you had an active rebill that ran out in Jan 2017 from a sale you made sometime before 2014, so you did have a rebill since two years ago. I shouldn't have grouped you in saying that you had no sales or rebills in two years.
more lies.. Learn how to read. I had a sale in Nov of last year (2017).. and yes those rebills were part of a 103 rebill sale from 2008.. I would think you would value people that have sent you sales that rebill that long but instead if they don't send you daily sales you don't give a shit.

Just stop replying to me cause no matter what you won't tell the truth other than what you think is your truth.
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I'm sorry, I don't know what that is, can you please fill me in?
You don't know what what is? A name?

A name is a personal identifier that one uses to, well, identify ones self.

And I am asking if at some time in the past you used the name Alphasky (I misspelled it originally) as your particular personal identifier.

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Alphasky, no? I have only used this username.

I was asking how that related to this.
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You don't know what what is? A name?

A name is a personal identifier that one uses to, well, identify ones self.

And I am asking if at some time in the past you used the name Alphasky (I misspelled it originally) as your particular personal identifier.

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it's not the same person.. this guy has been in biz before Alphasky but they do seem to deal with affiliates the same way in public
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it's not the same person.. this guy has been in biz before Alphasky but they do seem to deal with affiliates the same way in public
Well, thank you for saying that, SBJ, I do appreciate it. I wasn't sure how to prove I wasn't someone else.
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Well, thank you for saying that, sbj, I do appreciate it. I wasn't sure how to prove I wasn't someone else.
And thank you for posting my real name in a public board.. Keep stooping to new lows there.

what's next you post my Social Number?
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Alphasky, no? I have only used this username.

I was asking how that related to this.
It is related in that he was also an asshat who showed that he knew nothing about how to run a proper affiliate program and treated his affiliates like crap.

So, I was just wondering if you were him.

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It is related in that he was also an asshat who showed that he knew nothing about how to run a proper affiliate program and treated his affiliates like crap.

So, I was just wondering if you were him.

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Well that's very nice. We have been open very long, and paid people for a very long time, but no I do not know how to run a proper affiliate program anymore, you are right!
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Rebills are for life. always!

Only exception is when an affiliate breaks your rules. not sending new sales (or traffic) is not a valid reason to cancel an account with active rebills

You can always make a rule that rebills only count for a year (for new affiliates) if you don't want lifetime revshare. but it can only count for new affiliates and has to be super clear (and i know that would be a reason not to promote you, or promote with pps from my point of view) but something like that is always a option.

You can also change your tos and sales from may 2018 only rebill a max of 12 months. (but i would expect you will lose affiliates because of this) Sales made before may 2018 should rebill lifetime.

I think every limiting factor in revshare is just dumb. They send the sale, without them you would never have had that sale, so why would it be ok to cut them out is beyond me.
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And thank you for posting my real name in a public board.. Keep stooping to new lows there.

what's next you post my Social Number?
That was my mistake because I have only communicated with you on NNM before and that was ok. I wasn't doing that to be a jerk.
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but no I do not know how to run a proper affiliate program anymore, you are right!
Not if you are thinking that you can cancel people's accounts while they have active rebills you don't.

Lifetime rebills are lifetime rebills, not rebills until you decide you aren't making enough money or getting enough sales or whatever.

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Rebills are for life. always!

Only exception is when an affiliate breaks your rules. not sending new sales (or traffic) is not a valid reason to cancel an account

You can always make a rule that rebills only count for a year (for new affiliates) if you don't want lifetime revshare. but it can only count for new affiliates and has to be super clear (and i know that would be a reason not to promote you, or promote with pps from my point of view) but something like that is always a option.

You can also change your tos and sales from may 2018 only rebill a max of 12 months. (but i would expect you will lose affiliates because of this) Sales made before may 2018 should rebill lifetime.

I think every limiting factor in revshare is just dumb. They send the sale, without them you would never have had that sale, so why would it be ok to cut them out is beyond me.
We don't want to limit rebills, I was just venting frustration to/about these particular affiliates on a private board. We all have a long history, but we have never cheated anyone ever.

I understand that it looks bad on here out of context, but I agree it is dumb.
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Not if you are thinking that you can cancel people's accounts while they have active rebills you don't.

Lifetime rebills are lifetime rebills, not rebills until you decide you aren't making enough money or getting enough sales or whatever.

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You are right, we are NOT doing this, I was trying to get these particular people motivated to update their sites on a private board. Obviously, not the best way.

Solo sites are different than overall adult. Can only make sales with some of these guys but they don't really update their sites anymore, so I was frustrated and handled it poorly.

We just have to stay open somehow until we can no longer stay in business then. It's been a good run!
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We don't want to limit rebills, I was just venting frustration to/about these particular affiliates on a private board. We all have a long history, but we have never cheated anyone ever.

I understand that it looks bad on here out of context, but I agree it is dumb.

What you posted on the board. like canceling rebills if someone doesnt do any new sales in a year. while i think it would be a bad call. you can always do that kind of thing. Aslong as you state those rules clearly, and it only counts for new affiliates.


I didnt mean to say you tried to cheat anyone, i dont know you, never worked with you. so i can't comment on that


My main point is you can make any rule you want, aslong as you state it in advance clearly (rules that arent normal like this, would need to be clearly written and known by new affiliates, to avoid misunderstandings)
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You are right, we are NOT doing this, I was trying to get these particular people motivated to update their sites on a private board. Obviously, not the best way.

Solo sites are different than overall adult. Can only make sales with some of these guys but they don't really update their sites anymore, so I was frustrated and handled it poorly.

We just have to stay open somehow until we can no longer stay in business then. It's been a good run!
Or you can ask the affiliates what you should do to get them to do more promo for you instead of making suggestions that any reasonable person would know would piss people off.

What a concept, ya know.

AlphaSky was the same way. Nobody could tell him anything, he knew it all and took a site that had tremendous potential and kind of ran it n to the ground following his own advice.

The site he ran was TheAppleTwins.com - site is still there, don't know if it gets any traffic any more or not. Had awesome potential, now it just kind of sits there.

Just my

Good Luck to everyone involved.

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What you posted on the board. like canceling rebills if someone doesnt do any new sales in a year. while i think it would be a bad call. you can always do that kind of thing. Aslong as you state those rules clearly, and it only counts for new affiliates.


I didnt mean to say you tried to cheat anyone, i dont know you, never worked with you. so i can't comment on that


My main point is you can make any rule you want, aslong as you state it in advance clearly (rules that arent normal like this, would need to be clearly written and known by new affiliates, to avoid misunderstandings)
We started in 2001 and things have really changed a lot. Our TOS has always been literally "50% Revshare". We couldn't really predict what the future would bring to where we are now.

We haven't had any new affiliates sign up in a few years, beyond people selling sites then the buyer of that site then signs up. So even things in that case, where all our content that we licensed out to the original person just gets sold and transferred to a new person and we can do nothing about that?

As with most solo webmasters, we are a very small operation.
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Or you can ask the affiliates what you should do to get them to do more promo for you instead of making suggestions that any reasonable person would know would piss people off.

What a concept, ya know.

AlphaSky was the same way. Nobody could tell him anything, he knew it all and took a site that had tremendous potential and kind of ran it n to the ground following his own advice.

The site he ran was TheAppleTwins.com - site is still there, don't know if it gets any traffic any more or not. Had awesome potential, now it just kind of sits there.

Just my

Good Luck to everyone involved.

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We have tried that. This has been declining for many years. We have offered to buy sites, link trades, etc. I was frustrated and handled it poorly, though. I own up to it completely.

Ok, I know who they are, thanks for the context!
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We started in 2001 and things have really changed a lot. Our TOS has always been literally "50% Revshare". We couldn't really predict what the future would bring to where we are now.

We haven't had any new affiliates sign up in a few years, beyond people selling sites then the buyer of that site then signs up. So even things in that case, where all our content that we licensed out to the original person just gets sold and transferred to a new person and we can do nothing about that?

As with most solo webmasters, we are a very small operation.
Well new rules would apply to those webmasters buying the sites (and signing up with you) then right?
And you can dmca the people buying those sites ofc (if you dont want them as your affiliate) I don't really see a benefit for you, with doing that. But it is your content you give a person/site rights to use. you dont have to allow it once the site is transferred.



What i don't get, why is it an issue if someone doesnt send new sales, but does have people rebilling.
It's not like that will cost you extra. you pay an x amount for scenes shot, an x amount for servers/employees/software.
Every extra sale/rebill will generate revenue that will cover those costs. I don't see how it matters if someone makes 10 sales a month.
or makes 0 sales in the last 5 years, but does make 10 rebills a month.

(if someone doesnt make rebills nor sales, it asume they dont have any traffic either, you can always close affiliate accounts that meet those criteria aslong as they have 0 active signups with you that could potentially still rebill)
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They have traffic and sites, they just choose not to work on them. They could make sales, but they just don't feel like it. They take our content and put up cam ads over the content so they get the SERPS for our brand (and other solo sites) but when you go to the page it's a giant cam ad on top of the fold (do people use that term anymore?) then you can scroll down and see an old gallery of ours. Just one example, of something we did not foresee in 2001 when we created the site.

I have tried many other ways over the past few years, I am now my own affiliate as I build out my own sites, but they can't even be bothered to do link trades. There are a couple guys who still work very hard, though. All solo paysites are not doing well because of this kind of stuff, it's not just me. That is going to hurt these current affiliates who are still working.

The rebill thing was the only way I felt I could motivate them as a last ditch effort. I agree, not the best idea.
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Don't you have in your terms that content provided by you can only be used to promote your sites?

That is a pretty normal requirement from the programs I have ever signed up for.

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They have traffic and sites, they just choose not to work on them. They could make sales, but they just don't feel like it. They take our content and put up cam ads over the content so they get the SERPS for our brand (and other solo sites) but when you go to the page it's a giant cam ad on top of the fold (do people use that term anymore?) then you can scroll down and see an old gallery of ours. Just one example, of something we did not foresee in 2001 when we created the site.

I have tried many other ways over the past few years, I am now my own affiliate as I build out my own sites, but they can't even be bothered to do link trades. There are a couple guys who still work very hard, though. All solo paysites are not doing well because of this kind of stuff, it's not just me. That is going to hurt these current affiliates who are still working.

The rebill thing was the only way I felt I could motivate them as a last ditch effort. I agree, not the best idea.

i asume your tos does have a rule to be able to cancel your connection with an affiliate for any and all reason right?

For your massive cam ad example. Just contact them and tell to remove those ads or remove your content from those pages. (promo content on a page should mainly be used to send traffic to that specific site, not to other sites)

If they don't comply you can always warn them 1 last time with account closure as punishment
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They are promoting the site technically. There is a link at the bottom of the gallery, and maybe a 468x60 banner above the gallery, but not above the fold. I don't want to give people shit over an ad or two to the side or something reasonable. There are so many gray areas now, I could be here all day. I actually don't really want to police their sites, I just wanted them to put new content up, even under the cam ad or to tell me what I can do to get them to do this. They only replied at all THIS TIME because of the incendiary nature of the original post in the thread. I hate that it had gotten to this.

But we have no fleshed out terms about anything, it just says "50% Revshare". It was 2001, people in adult were pretty decent to each other back then. Basically, we just beg not to give away too much of our member content. Some of the NNM affiliates were mad over that a few years ago, as well, when we had to stop giving them free passes to the site. A lot of the guys weren't updating the sites then, either, and this was like 5 years ago. They just wanted the free pass.

We updated our FHG up until last year up until I saw they weren't being used at all, and current affiliates were pulling the new updates off my own affiliate sites so I just went with that.
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i asume your tos does have a rule to be able to cancel your connection with an affiliate for any and all reason right?

For your massive cam ad example. Just contact them and tell to remove those ads or remove your content from those pages. (promo content on a page should mainly be used to send traffic to that specific site, not to other sites)

If they don't comply you can always warn them 1 last time with account closure as punishment
We did not set rules like that. We didn't know what we were doing when we started. I guess some people will say that we still don't. I don't know the protocol to cut ties with an affiliate.

We had one guy recently throw a fit and say our content "sucked" because his rebills from Jan to Feb fell from 10 to 7. He purchased a site from an old affiliate back in August. And we are that guy's top seller. So now we are stuck with this new kind of attitude that we couldn't predict. Do we have no recourse for this? This kind of thing is was what set me off the most. We did not have in the TOS to not treat us like garbage.

Solo traffic, for the most part, is from just a couple of affiliates. And we all dealt with each other on that private board.
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We had one guy recently throw a fit and say our content "sucked" because his rebills from Jan to Feb fell from 10 to 7.
No fucker through a fit other then you, said the zip sales sucked... not the content.. the sale for the zip.

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Phil ~ Everyone has seen the content a zillion times, but the $5 sales are o.k but if your buying traffic you might want to think higher value.... but hes been selling this month because of nikki topless pics
Phad ~ His girls don't update enough to keep sending sales as no content to promote them with, Lex nai = july, brooke marks 1 set every 2 months, bailey maybe 6 to 8 weeks every new set, re adding zips makes sales but if you are aiming for sales to rebill its a hard push
Pattycake ~ still makes good sales and good rebills but rebills are well down this month and sales compared to last few months and the new zip has been the worse seller for me since starting again. But she does good soild rebills to keep sending traffic
Spunky ~ I pick the odd sale up here and there and rebill also, i just hate micheals content .... no offense spunky :P
Zishy ~ he bangs a set out every 2 days and good tease/nude tease content, low value join $6.99 to webby or $21 for year buys.
Ariel ~ Shooting naughty content and pick up sales to her
Andiland ~ started doing weekly sales with andi now rebills are abit slow
FTV ~ high ratio but still sells and rebills good

That is a honest critic based on my sales and traffic
Then you spat your dummy out and turned into a 4 Page thread.

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He purchased a site from an old affiliate back in August.
July......

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And we are that guy's top seller.
Were... you have been passed, like i told you before that you aren't top anymore.... keep thinking you are tho if it rubs your huge ego any better.


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So now we are stuck with this new kind of attitude that we couldn't predict. Do we have no recourse for this? This kind of thing is was what set me off the most. We did not have in the TOS to not treat us like garbage.
As shown by this thread you are in the wrong and the masses of people call it what it is theft.

But i also think you should take a look at youre own sites, before spitting out your dummy at anyone elses

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They are promoting the site technically. There is a link at the bottom of the gallery, and maybe a 468x60 banner above the gallery, but not above the fold. I don't want to give people shit over an ad or two to the side or something reasonable. There are so many gray areas now, I could be here all day. I actually don't really want to police their sites, I just wanted them to put new content up, even under the cam ad or to tell me what I can do to get them to do this. They only replied at all THIS TIME because of the incendiary nature of the original post in the thread. I hate that it had gotten to this.
You going to police yourself ?

Sexy Pattycake Darth Patty No Panties - Sexabulous.com Nothing at the top of the gallery to click through to pattycake

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Why you promoting other sites in the middle of pattycake content ? Surely the content from a paysites should be used to promote that site only and not other sites.

Isn't this what you want to stop pattycakes content being used to promote other sites.... so confused right now
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Iím not sure where it is ďmassesĒ. Itís mostly the same few guys from NNM then a couple people chimed in who said killing rebills is dumb and I agreed with them.

But case in point. Do I HAVE to keep working with someone who acts like this? I mean what is the proper way to cut this guy off because I do not want to let him use my content anymore.

If I let him keep the rebills can I DMCA the content? Can someone give me a clear answer on this?
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I’m not sure where it is “masses”. It’s mostly the same few guys from NNM then a couple people chimed in who said killing rebills is dumb and I agreed with them.

But case in point. Do I HAVE to keep working with someone who acts like this? I mean what is the proper way to cut this guy off because I do not want to let me use my content anymore.

If I let him keep the rebills can I DMCA the content? Can someone give me a clear answer on this?

Best/Most honest way to cut ties with him would be to tell him (2 weeks in advance?) you will turn all his new sales in to 0% revshare (so he will not get paid for new sales) and you no longer want his business. and that he needs to remove your content

Then keep his account active for the rebills he still has from before this point. once no more rebills come in, close the account and pay every outstanding balance (even if it's below a min payout)

If he does not remove your content after the 2 week period, you would act like you found the content on a pirate site (dcma?)



I would only do this with a good reason, because if it's for nonsense it wouldnt be strange other affiliates get scared.

But i think this would be a honest solution.
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Iím not sure where it is ďmassesĒ. Itís mostly the same few guys from NNM then a couple people chimed in who said killing rebills is dumb and I agreed with them.

But case in point. Do I HAVE to keep working with someone who acts like this? I mean what is the proper way to cut this guy off because I do not want to let him use my content anymore.

If I let him keep the rebills can I DMCA the content? Can someone give me a clear answer on this?
You can buy my rebills x 12 months and i'll remove pattycake

On nnm you are still acting like a cock, at least on here you admit you went around it the wrong way.
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Technically none of the content was liscenced to him. He purchased the site last year off another guy and that is who made most of the galleries. All the galleries he made himself were pulled from my own freesite not from fhg in my cash program.
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Technically none of the content was liscenced to him. He purchased the site last year off another guy and that is who made most of the galleries. All the galleries he made himself were pulled from my own freesite not from fhg in my cash program.
Because you don't send affiliate content out, yet whine people don't promote pattycake and add galleries.

Catch 22 there.

If you want affiliates to be active you have to engauge... this is how other programmes get galleries added to there sites by sending affiliates content.

Last FHG added 1 year ago, i'm 9 months in, show me the cash programme with the new content ? ohhhh wait
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