News Democrat Conor Lamb SLAYS Republican stronghold PA in special election! - GoFuckYourself.com

Bladewire · 03-13-2018, 06:06 PM

Eat that all you David Dennison cucks!

Conor Lamb has SLAYED Trump's 20 win in Pennsylvania the last election!

Democrats are going to take back the House and maybe even the Senate!

#ThanksTrump

Bladewire · 03-13-2018, 06:56 PM

Trump won Pennsylvania by 20 points and now his guy is neck-and-neck with the Democrat, Gods angel Conor Lamb. What a loser! He couldn't hold Trump's lead and now he's fighting to maybe scrape by so sad for Republicans look what Trump has done to your party. Disgusting

Bladewire · 03-13-2018, 07:20 PM

Pennsylvania trumplestiltskins have been destroyed! No more 20-point lead in Pennsylvania Trump cucks!!

kane · 03-13-2018, 07:26 PM

Looks like a nailbiter. Based on what I see, I have a feeling Saccone is going to pull this out by a hair.

Bladewire · 03-13-2018, 07:26 PM

TampaToker · 03-13-2018, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

Looks like a nailbiter. Based on what I see, I have a feeling Saccone is going to pull this out by a hair.

I hope not Lamb fits my political style perfectly. Hopefully if he wins he does not bow down down to Pelosi and Schumer.

onwebcam · 03-13-2018, 07:34 PM

Setting yourself up for another disappointment I see.

kane · 03-13-2018, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker

I hope not Lamb fits my political style perfectly. Hopefully if he wins he does not bow down down to Pelosi and Schumer.

In the end, whoever wins will have to run again in November and after the redistricting, they could have an entirely new electorate so who knows what will happen then.

SuckOnThis · 03-13-2018, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

Looks like a nailbiter. Based on what I see, I have a feeling Saccone is going to pull this out by a hair.

Either way it's a huge win for the dems. Trump is a led balloon.

onwebcam · 03-13-2018, 07:40 PM

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In the end, whoever wins will have to run again in November and after the redistricting, they could have an entirely new electorate so who knows what will happen then.

Yeah I think way too many people are putting too much emphasis on this election.

SuckOnThis · 03-13-2018, 07:46 PM

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Yeah I think way too many people are putting too much emphasis on this election.

kane · 03-13-2018, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Either way it's a huge win for the dems. Trump is a led balloon.

That is likely true. Trump went there himself and the Republicans spent $9 million on this election running all their big guns out there to help campaign for him. If they barely hold onto a district Trump won big it's not a good sign.

It's also looking like there will be a recount as well. If the winner wins by .5% or less the state requires a recount. That could turn into a shit show.

I know each state does things their own way, but to me, it seems like it would have been better to just leave this one without a rep until the district changes and the November election or just appoint a temporary person to hold down the fort until then.

Bladewire · 03-13-2018, 07:57 PM

How embarrassing for Trump to have fucked up so much in his first year that he loses a 20-point lead in Pennsylvania... a republican stronghold!!

All these bullshit Trump supporting fake nics here have lost all the power they thought they had a long time ago and now it's just proof.

ilnjscb · 03-13-2018, 08:40 PM

No it is a big deal - if democrats win the house all the investigations get re-opened with subpoena power - Trump will spend his entire time fighting and possibly lose in 2020. Clinton had the media with him, Trump does not. He needs the house and senate to be republican to pass legislation.

Bladewire · 03-13-2018, 08:49 PM

Trump lost Alabama in their last election, ALABAMA! The perfect candidate for Alabama was running and even with Trump's full throated support he lost to the Democrat!

This is a watershed moment for Republicans they have lost all the power they had Trump pissed it away all in one year, ONE! Unprecedented

beerptrol · 03-13-2018, 09:33 PM

Going to fun watching chump spin this.

Lamb is an outsider like me

The republican candidate was an insider and weak. It wouldnt have been so close if it wasnt for me. He would have lost bigly

kane · 03-13-2018, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol

Going to fun watching chump spin this.

Lamb is an outsider like me

The republican candidate was an insider and weak. It wouldnt have been so close if it wasnt for me. He would have lost bigly

My bet is that he will say something like, "He was a bad candidate. I went there and did everything I could. If I hadn't gone there he would have lost by 10 points."

kane · 03-13-2018, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb

No it is a big deal - if democrats win the house all the investigations get re-opened with subpoena power - Trump will spend his entire time fighting and possibly lose in 2020. Clinton had the media with him, Trump does not. He needs the house and senate to be republican to pass legislation.

The things is, Pennsylvania has been forced to redraw its districts. Those new districts will go into place sometime later this year. Lamb will have to run again in November since he is taking the seat and finishing the term of someone else. His new district may not look anything like this when it comes to what type of voters are there.

So today is only a moral victory. If he then goes and loses in November it means nothing for the Democrats.

Rochard · 03-13-2018, 09:42 PM

The Republicans lost their election in Alamabama, and now this is a huge win for the Democrats - even if Lamb loses, just the fact that a Democrat came so close to winning is a staggering defeat for the Republicans.

We also have other things at play.

Trump's base is slowly losing ground as they figure out Trump is nothing but talking. A perfect example of this is the wall he promised Mexico would pay for. We are a year into his administration, the wall hasn't even started, and we still haven't discussed how we are going to pay for this. The VA is a another example. He promised to fix it, and instead he fired five thousand VA employees that are difficult to replace. He made a number of promises and has failed to make good on them. Then factor in all of the bullshit and noise - he paid hush money to a porn star he was banging, and the Russian collusion.

Then.... Look at this from a statistical side... In the midterms where one party has both the White House and both Congress and the Senate, that party tends to fair badly in the mid-terms. Even more so with any Republican who sided with Trump - that will be a huge liability.

Whatever, this is disgusting on a daily basis. And every time Trump uses the term "space force" a little piece of me dies inside.

Bladewire · 03-13-2018, 09:42 PM

Come see Donald Trump Jr, wearing a hairnet, campaign for Saccone in PA.

beerptrol · 03-13-2018, 10:05 PM

Lamb has shown the democrats what needs to be done to compete. Now lets see if the old guard corporate democrats will follow through

onwebcam · 03-13-2018, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

The Republicans lost their election in Alamabama, and now this is a huge win for the Democrats - even if Lamb loses, just the fact that a Democrat came so close to winning is a staggering defeat for the Republicans.

We also have other things at play.

Trump's base is slowly losing ground as they figure out Trump is nothing but talking. A perfect example of this is the wall he promised Mexico would pay for. We are a year into his administration, the wall hasn't even started, and we still haven't discussed how we are going to pay for this. The VA is a another example. He promised to fix it, and instead he fired five thousand VA employees that are difficult to replace. He made a number of promises and has failed to make good on them. Then factor in all of the bullshit and noise - he paid hush money to a porn star he was banging, and the Russian collusion.

Then.... Look at this from a statistical side... In the midterms where one party has both the White House and both Congress and the Senate, that party tends to fair badly in the mid-terms. Even more so with any Republican who sided with Trump - that will be a huge liability.

Whatever, this is disgusting on a daily basis. And every time Trump uses the term "space force" a little piece of me dies inside.

It's in reality a completely reversal in what you think. Lamb has always been ahead in the polls. Saccone was down roughly 5% as of last week. Republicans rallied which included the Trump stump speech and closed the gap.

To be fair, Lamb has a young appeal.. Saccone just "looks" like old establishment.

If you look at the breakdown of voting by county Lamb got his votes from Pittsburgh an obvious Democratic metro area which means Dems are still losing in the burbs/countryside. Pennsylvania Elections - County Breakdown Results

You can't win Presidential elections with just metropolitan areas....

Bladewire · 03-13-2018, 10:27 PM

Republicans just received one if the the biggest scratchings in voting history in Pennsylvania which four decades has been a republican stronghold.

Trump pissed away all his power this last year over petty bullshit and lost a 20-point lead in a republican stronghold even after campaigning in that state twice for the Republican.

Bladewire · 03-14-2018, 03:00 AM

Such a sad loss for Trumpelstiltskins

Bladewire · 03-14-2018, 05:24 AM

The Conor Lamb victory speech

ilnjscb · 03-14-2018, 05:52 AM

Yeah this is big. Two takeaways. One, Centrist democrats. Get rid of the socialists and the identity politics, and it becomes an attractive party. Two, something is going on with Trump voters. Not sure if it means he is losing their support or they are too lazy to vote but something is wrong. They have 6 short months to figure it out.

Bill Clinton lost the house and came back from it, but he had the media on his side. Trump does not. He also pissed off the Bushes and the rich republicans.

directfiesta · 03-14-2018, 06:10 AM

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Yeah I think way too many people are putting too much emphasis on this election.

GOP : 10 million +
DNC: 2 million

Yep, you are right .... again !

GFED · 03-14-2018, 06:17 AM

Seems like a good guy. Not your typical democrat.

RedFred · 03-14-2018, 06:20 AM

Once the democrats take over the house no doubt Trump will be impeached, and if they had any guts they would declare the republican party an enemy of the United States.

RandyRandy · 03-14-2018, 06:47 AM

The cheerleading on BOTH sides is sad.

GFED · 03-14-2018, 07:14 AM

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Once the democrats take over the house no doubt Trump will be impeached, and if they had any guts they would declare the republican party an enemy of the United States.

It should be legal to shoot communists such as yourself on sight.

RedFred · 03-14-2018, 07:16 AM

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It should be legal to shoot communists such as yourself on sight.

Says the traitor who supports the biggest communist on the planet taking over the US.

Acepimp · 03-14-2018, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred

Once the democrats take over the house no doubt Trump will be impeached, and if they had any guts they would declare the republican party an enemy of the United States.

Neither of those things will happen, and trump isn't guilty of anything, nor is he in bed with Putin. You people are so desperate to hate trump for some reason that you can't see how you've been duped. Sad!

beerptrol · 03-14-2018, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GFED

It should be legal to shoot communists such as yourself on sight.

lol you alt right cultist butthurt snowflake nutjobs.

SuckOnThis · 03-14-2018, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GFED

It should be legal to shoot communists such as yourself on sight.

Another unhinged trump pussy on the verge of committing a mass shooting.

SuckOnThis · 03-14-2018, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Acepimp

Neither of those things will happen, and trump isn't guilty of anything, nor is he in bed with Putin. You people are so desperate to hate trump for some reason that you can't see how you've been duped. Sad!

Coke? Meth? Both?

trevesty · 03-14-2018, 08:44 AM

I'm just here to read the industry's who's who of has beens defend the Orange Doofus.

Bladewire · 03-14-2018, 09:33 AM

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Coke? Meth? Both?

Rochard · 03-14-2018, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred

Once the democrats take over the house no doubt Trump will be impeached, and if they had any guts they would declare the republican party an enemy of the United States.

This is what I am thinking.

The Democratic plan is to release the full Mueller report right before the mid term elections in November, which will just further ensure the Democrats will do well. Once they have the majority after the Mueller investigation is released, they will move to impeach him. By this point there will be little support left for Trump.

ilnjscb · 03-14-2018, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

This is what I am thinking.

The Democratic plan is to release the full Mueller report right before the mid term elections in November, which will just further ensure the Democrats will do well. Once they have the majority after the Mueller investigation is released, they will move to impeach him. By this point there will be little support left for Trump.

I agree that he will be impeached, which just takes a 50% +1, but he will not be removed. However, he will probably lose if this happens.

Bladewire · 03-14-2018, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

This is what I am thinking.

The Democratic plan is to release the full Mueller report right before the mid term elections in November, which will just further ensure the Democrats will do well. Once they have the majority after the Mueller investigation is released, they will move to impeach him. By this point there will be little support left for Trump.

We don't need the Mueller report, David Dennison is sinking his own ship daily!

We won Pennsylvania decapitating his 20-point lead. Epic!

ilnjscb · 03-14-2018, 03:26 PM

Whether or not you agree with 538, some good data to chew on, demonstrating clearly as I see it that there is a serious problem for republicans

The ‘Enthusiasm Gap’ Could Turn A Democratic Wave Into A Tsunami

The Pennsylvania 18th Result Tells Us What Everything Has Been Telling Us For A While

ruff · 03-14-2018, 03:31 PM

Hillary's coming back and she's going to kick tRump's ass back to Russia.

GFED · 03-14-2018, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ruff

Hillary's coming back and she's going to kick tRump's ass back to Russia.

I doubt she'd be able to kick anything without falling over.

RandyRandy · 03-14-2018, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ruff

Hillary's coming back and she's going to kick tRump's ass back to Russia.

Hillary coming back would ensure a Trump re-election.

Run a centrist that's not an obvious Establishment shill against him and the Dems would have a decent shot.

Sarn · 03-14-2018, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ruff

Hillary's coming back and she's going to kick tRump's ass back to Russia.

Trump represents not Russia, Trump represents USA workers.
Hillary? good luck!

Bladewire · 03-14-2018, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

Hillary coming back would ensure a Trump re-election.

Run a centrist that's not an obvious Establishment shill against him and the Dems would have a decent shot.

beerptrol · 03-14-2018, 07:09 PM

while the republicans try to spin it.
just remember that district was illegally gerrymandered to the point that no republican should have lost that race. Hence that district will be no more next election

Trump just said at a private function Conor Lamb won because he's like Trump

Bladewire · 03-14-2018, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol

while the republicans try to spin it.
just remember that district was illegally gerrymandered to the point that no republican should have lost that race. Hence that district will be no more next election

Trump just said at a private function Conor Lamb won because he's like Trump

Trump is trying to spin it now as Conor Lamb saying how wonderful Trump was and running as a Republican and Democrat clothing and saying that Conor Lamb should thank him for his win.

Trump has gone past the point of trolling and is in a really bad mental state. His Republican voter support is gone he has a very low Baseline now 20 point lead decapitated in a gerrymandered GOP blue state for almost a hundred years lost to a Democrat.

It's going to be a landslide for the Democrats unless Trump starts at War which she probably will to win the election.

beerptrol · 03-15-2018, 03:17 AM

Funny how the attack ads they ran against him slammed him for being liberal and all the usual shit they say about democrats...A Pelosi Liberal

Now all the sudden after he won he's one of them...Gooble Gobble One of Us

The leaked audio tape once again shows Chump is a liar

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Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,232	Democrat Conor Lamb SLAYS Republican stronghold PA in special election! Eat that all you David Dennison cucks! Conor Lamb has SLAYED Trump's 20 win in Pennsylvania the last election! Democrats are going to take back the House and maybe even the Senate! #ThanksTrump

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Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,232	Pennsylvania trumplestiltskins have been destroyed! No more 20-point lead in Pennsylvania Trump cucks!! __________________ Skype: CallTomNow

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beerptrol Confirmed Asshole Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Half way between sobriety and fubar. Posts: 12,722	Going to fun watching chump spin this. Lamb is an outsider like me The republican candidate was an insider and weak. It wouldnt have been so close if it wasnt for me. He would have lost bigly __________________ “If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.” -- Ulysses S. Grant

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Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,232	Trump won Pennsylvania by 20 points and now his guy is neck-and-neck with the Democrat, Gods angel Conor Lamb. What a loser! He couldn't hold Trump's lead and now he's fighting to maybe scrape by so sad for Republicans look what Trump has done to your party. Disgusting

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kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	Looks like a nailbiter. Based on what I see, I have a feeling Saccone is going to pull this out by a hair.

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Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,232	How embarrassing for Trump to have fucked up so much in his first year that he loses a 20-point lead in Pennsylvania... a republican stronghold!! All these bullshit Trump supporting fake nics here have lost all the power they thought they had a long time ago and now it's just proof.

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ilnjscb Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 8,460	No it is a big deal - if democrats win the house all the investigations get re-opened with subpoena power - Trump will spend his entire time fighting and possibly lose in 2020. Clinton had the media with him, Trump does not. He needs the house and senate to be republican to pass legislation.

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Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,232	Trump lost Alabama in their last election, ALABAMA! The perfect candidate for Alabama was running and even with Trump's full throated support he lost to the Democrat! This is a watershed moment for Republicans they have lost all the power they had Trump pissed it away all in one year, ONE! Unprecedented

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Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 70,142	The Republicans lost their election in Alamabama, and now this is a huge win for the Democrats - even if Lamb loses, just the fact that a Democrat came so close to winning is a staggering defeat for the Republicans. We also have other things at play. Trump's base is slowly losing ground as they figure out Trump is nothing but talking. A perfect example of this is the wall he promised Mexico would pay for. We are a year into his administration, the wall hasn't even started, and we still haven't discussed how we are going to pay for this. The VA is a another example. He promised to fix it, and instead he fired five thousand VA employees that are difficult to replace. He made a number of promises and has failed to make good on them. Then factor in all of the bullshit and noise - he paid hush money to a porn star he was banging, and the Russian collusion. Then.... Look at this from a statistical side... In the midterms where one party has both the White House and both Congress and the Senate, that party tends to fair badly in the mid-terms. Even more so with any Republican who sided with Trump - that will be a huge liability. Whatever, this is disgusting on a daily basis. And every time Trump uses the term "space force" a little piece of me dies inside. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

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beerptrol Confirmed Asshole Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Half way between sobriety and fubar. Posts: 12,722	Lamb has shown the democrats what needs to be done to compete. Now lets see if the old guard corporate democrats will follow through __________________ “If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.” -- Ulysses S. Grant

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Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,232	Republicans just received one if the the biggest scratchings in voting history in Pennsylvania which four decades has been a republican stronghold. Trump pissed away all his power this last year over petty bullshit and lost a 20-point lead in a republican stronghold even after campaigning in that state twice for the Republican.

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ilnjscb Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 8,460	Yeah this is big. Two takeaways. One, Centrist democrats. Get rid of the socialists and the identity politics, and it becomes an attractive party. Two, something is going on with Trump voters. Not sure if it means he is losing their support or they are too lazy to vote but something is wrong. They have 6 short months to figure it out. Bill Clinton lost the house and came back from it, but he had the media on his side. Trump does not. He also pissed off the Bushes and the rich republicans.

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RandyRandy Clips still sell! Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Crown Heights, Brooklyn Posts: 1,708	The cheerleading on BOTH sides is sad.

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ilnjscb Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 8,460	Whether or not you agree with 538, some good data to chew on, demonstrating clearly as I see it that there is a serious problem for republicans The ‘Enthusiasm Gap’ Could Turn A Democratic Wave Into A Tsunami The Pennsylvania 18th Result Tells Us What Everything Has Been Telling Us For A While

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beerptrol Confirmed Asshole Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Half way between sobriety and fubar. Posts: 12,722	while the republicans try to spin it. just remember that district was illegally gerrymandered to the point that no republican should have lost that race. Hence that district will be no more next election Trump just said at a private function Conor Lamb won because he's like Trump __________________ “If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.” -- Ulysses S. Grant

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beerptrol Confirmed Asshole Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Half way between sobriety and fubar. Posts: 12,722	Funny how the attack ads they ran against him slammed him for being liberal and all the usual shit they say about democrats...A Pelosi Liberal Now all the sudden after he won he's one of them...Gooble Gobble One of Us The leaked audio tape once again shows Chump is a liar __________________ “If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.” -- Ulysses S. Grant