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yes, but a lot of them are not good 6 42.86%
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Old 02-20-2018, 05:20 PM   #1
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Do you think there are too many programmers/designers now?

Seems like there are more development people than projects to develop.

Freelancer.com looks like a vast wasteland of talent going to waste for chump change.

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Old 02-20-2018, 05:27 PM   #2
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Freelancer.com looks like a vast wasteland of talent going to waste for chump change.
5 minutes from adding and 100 offers from India?
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Old 02-20-2018, 05:29 PM   #3
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5 minutes from adding and 100 offers from India?
This is a poll, I'm asking the questions here bro.

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Old 02-20-2018, 05:30 PM   #4
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This is a poll, I'm asking the questions here bro.

And you get my vote already!
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Not enough video editors and motion graphics developers.
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Old 02-20-2018, 05:38 PM   #6
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Motion graphics as in video or stuff like flash?
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Old 02-20-2018, 05:40 PM   #7
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And you get my vote already!
My answers would have 0 accuracy because I never hire any developers.
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Old 02-20-2018, 05:44 PM   #8
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I can't answer either as I never hire programmers or designers.

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There are many, but not too many that can handle the task and do good job.
Some time ago I had some more complex coding to be done. I described the thing in a smallest detail, created some visualizations etc. and I contacted like 30 coders. Most of them told me they had no time (right.... some did not even ask how much I?m willing to pay, they were all excited at first but then once they realized it's not a wordpress job or a simple piece of code... yeah...) some other told me: "Sure, send us the details!" But then after 1-3 days "Sorry, we can?t, bla bla bla". (Mostly guys from India, South America and a few from US and UK) And only 1 from Eastern Europe said yes, took the job, and did it.
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Old 02-20-2018, 06:38 PM   #10
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There are many, but not too many that can handle the task and do good job.
Some time ago I had some more complex coding to be done. I described the thing in a smallest detail, created some visualizations etc. and I contacted like 30 coders. Most of them told me they had no time (right.... some did not even ask how much I?m willing to pay, they were all excited at first but then once they realized it's not a wordpress job or a simple piece of code... yeah...) some other told me: "Sure, send us the details!" But then after 1-3 days "Sorry, we can?t, bla bla bla". (Mostly guys from India, South America and a few from US and UK) And only 1 from Eastern Europe said yes, took the job, and did it.
Those type probably depend on a "warehouse" of free code to do your project so when
there is no pre-made free code they are stuck.
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Old 02-20-2018, 07:17 PM   #11
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When I first started off in this industry, you had to be a jack of all trades. You had to be a recruiter, photographer, designer, programmer, server admin, businessman, and accountant. Most of us did all of this or at least most of this. Now... Not so much.

On the other hand, programmers and designers are easy to find. A charity I worked for needed a custom blog designed, quickly found someone, and for $200 had a great wordpress blog designed.
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Old 02-20-2018, 08:26 PM   #12
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Kind you like writers. Too many that cannot do the job.
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Developers and designers are really many now, but many of them are self-taught and have superficial knowledge. Someone has learned to do something in Photoshop on video lessons on YouTube and decided that he is a good specialist. But this is not so. And when you really need something good and unique, you have to find a real expert. And these guys are not cheap. Just many people think if once the average price on the market is such, then why pay more to a specialist. Therefore, they hire a cheap designer or developer, and then they wonder why he made shit.

Very few guys who do cheap and high quality. Usually they are from Eastern Europe.
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Flash is dead. We work in After Effects. But yeah, same general thing.
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Not too many that can handle the task and do good job.
I Agreed.

Not enough Good developer who can do a proper job.

When you find one GOOD developer HE HIS BUSY AS FUCK so when you got an issue The wait can be very long.

IMO
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The market is overwhelmed with developers now indeed. But that's quite convenient for webmasters. As if the supply is bigger than the demand the price level goes down.
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Too many? No. But projects in the industry seems to drop tremendously.
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Too many? No. But projects in the industry seems to drop tremendously.
There are very little easy jobs like old times.
Basic webmaster can now do a lot of easier things themselves.
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Basic webmaster can now do a lot of easier things themselves.
Yes, that is true. But the main reason is what's left in the industry are mostly the big players which has their own in house team. All the small time webmasters are almost instinct nowadays which we primarily do business with.
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You can buy pre made themes now, so no need for custom designs really unless you going bookoo with customer tube site
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You can buy pre made themes now, so no need for custom designs really unless you going bookoo with customer tube site
Custom designs almost don't even make sense on mobile.
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but many of them are self-taught and have superficial knowledge
Self-taught doesn't always mean superficial knowledge
Do you think that if you take some courses you are suddenly a specialist?

In my opinion, experience is key.
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Self-taught doesn't always mean superficial knowledge
Do you think that if you take some courses you are suddenly a specialist?

In my opinion, experience is key.
Yes, I agree that experience is key.

But I said that after watched a couple of lessons on Youtube, some consider themselves to be good specialists, but in fact they are not. And therefore they don't perform work qualitatively, since their knowledge is a superficial.

Have you had any experience of hiring such performers? I had. Nothing good came of it.
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The market is flooded with SHITTY developers, yes. It takes me months to hire someone competent locally - but there is no shortage of people applying.
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It depends on the level of skills. My brother is a programmer, but no one in online porn could afford/pay him. It's the same with designers. The best have fled.
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