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babeterminal · 12-05-2014, 04:31 PM

i thought i would start this thread for affiliates who find ccbill program owners who cheat affiliates this includes those that run ccbill affiliate sign ups but use a different payment system [this does not included those that use cascading or other secondary payments]

programs that change the payout percentage after an affiliate signs up this includes those that advertise 50/60% then lower it to a ridiculous percentage like 25% or 00.01% like these cocksuckers https://gfy.com/20313154-post25.html

stick to ccbill only here most know zombaio/verotel/epoch programs do this all the time especially verotel who in 10 years i have never had a sale with that stayed when i did get a sale with verotel soon after the program disappeared along with the money

babeterminal · 12-05-2014, 04:36 PM

these fuckers glamandglossy.com/affiliate-signup
use payandsurf payment if you promote these you are wasting your time

adultmobile · 12-05-2014, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babeterminal

stick to ccbill only here most know zombaio/verotel/epoch programs

A program cheating CCbill affiliates by billing with Zombaio instead, is not very smart

babeterminal · 12-05-2014, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

A program cheating CCbill affiliates by billing with Zombaio instead, is not very smart

yeah to true the thing with that is the cheaters will not be paid either

RyuLion · 12-05-2014, 08:19 PM

Good to know..

NaughtyRob · 12-05-2014, 08:29 PM

Thanks for the info.

TheDA · 12-06-2014, 06:46 AM

There's been a few previous threads on this, worth checking them out. Some of them dropping percentages are legit however, so, again, worth checking them out.

Changes to accounts like this should be emailed to all affiliates. It's been requested for years but never implemented.

LouiseLloyd · 12-06-2014, 06:59 AM

It would be good to receive payout %, cookie length and other info in the automated signup email then a further email notification when anything changes such as when the sponsor changes the payout %, pretty simple to implement.

TeenCat · 12-06-2014, 07:51 AM

if i am right, you can see all programs and their payouts perventage in ccbill, just display all your programs and sort them by program payout

you all will be surprised how much people are cheating you ...

then share please

and have a nice weekend everyone!

pornmasta · 12-06-2014, 08:10 AM

anyway if i don't make money i just go elsewhere...

newB · 12-06-2014, 08:17 AM

Claim: Up to 60% revshare

Reality: 55% on sale, no bonuses, "Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills"

NatalieK · 12-06-2014, 09:00 AM

Also some CCBill programs pay processing fees, then pay the affiliate a choice for program owners to make. Affiliates, be careful!

We give 50% of the sale then pay processing fees, which means you, the affiliate receive the full 50% as promised

newB · 12-06-2014, 09:01 AM

program for OT Cams and Glamour Stars Live

If they sent out an email about this, I didn't get it, but I see that at some point they reduced their payouts from 25% to 5% (no rebills). However, they did amend their sites to reflect the reduced percentages, so new affiliates will see that rate before joining.

babeterminal · 12-06-2014, 03:23 PM

panty-alice.com/webmasters.php
We offer you a 60% payout on all first and recurring sales for the life of the membership.

in ccbill Payout Percent: 0.60%

MPGdevil · 12-06-2014, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babeterminal

panty-alice.com/webmasters.php
We offer you a 60% payout on all first and recurring sales for the life of the membership.

in ccbill Payout Percent: 0.60%

Very clever trying to hide reality like that. Thanks, another program to the BL.

babeterminal · 12-06-2014, 03:53 PM

3dpraguegirls.com/webmasters/
Webmaster Referral Signup: we pay out 50%!

in ccbill Payout Percent: 1.00%

AmeliaG · 12-06-2014, 09:33 PM

That Owen guy who took over DarkPlay and CyberDyke etc. likes to put his own affiliate code before the join to steal sales and he also is notorious for doing the % lowering thing like OP described.

pornmasta · 12-06-2014, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newB

program for OT Cams and Glamour Stars Live

If they sent out an email about this, I didn't get it, but I see that at some point they reduced their payouts from 25% to 5% (no rebills). However, they did amend their sites to reflect the reduced percentages, so new affiliates will see that rate before joining.

i never made a single cent with them...

babeterminal · 12-07-2014, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newB

Claim: Up to 60% revshare

Reality: 55% on sale, no bonuses, "Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills"

i had them on my leak list for vaginainstitute.com/affiliates/index.html / hussycash.net
with verotel leaks

faxxaff · 12-20-2014, 09:01 PM

Some programs just change subaccounts .... most elegant way of shaving. No need to risk not being paid by Zombaio.

newB · 12-21-2014, 12:22 PM

Not sure if this is an intentional cheat or not, but I just noticed that for WestCoast Gangbangs the 'clientAccnum' on the join form is 910734, which does not match that of the program (910735)

Anyone still promoting that site that can weigh in on whether they are still being credited with sales?

babeterminal · 01-25-2015, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newB

Not sure if this is an intentional cheat or not, but I just noticed that for WestCoast Gangbangs the 'clientAccnum' on the join form is 910734, which does not match that of the program (910735)

Anyone still promoting that site that can weigh in on whether they are still being credited with sales?

910735 is for amateurnetcash

babeterminal · 01-25-2015, 06:03 PM

studio66tv is now using vxsbill nice of them to inform us all the fuckers

you know people tell me to keep an eye on the eastern european people in this business but the most fuckers for cheating i have come across are the fucking brits

signupdamnit · 01-25-2015, 06:23 PM

It's also that CCBill doesn't give two shits about affiliates anymore. They make the cheating easy. You don't even get an email if the program changes the rebill or join percentage. There is no alert or anything if they change the PID. It doesn't even try to compensate you. It just silently gives the sponsor the full sale and fuck the affiliate.

People have been telling them for years to make changes but they don't care. This business is full of scumbags and they know they have to cater to them.

signupdamnit · 01-25-2015, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faxxaff

Some programs just change subaccounts .... most elegant way of shaving. No need to risk not being paid by Zombaio.

There are also ways to hardcode an affiliate ID in the join form. This can be done x% of the time via a dynamic script. It's been like that for years. CCBill doesn't care.

MiamiBoyz · 01-25-2015, 07:03 PM

Cheaters never win...

AND

Winners never cheat.

WHAT BULLSHIT!

fappingJack · 01-26-2015, 01:35 AM

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rogueteens · 01-26-2015, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babeterminal

studio66tv is now using vxsbill nice of them to inform us all the fuckers

you know people tell me to keep an eye on the eastern european people in this business but the most fuckers for cheating i have come across are the fucking brits

Fuck! Thanks for pointing that out! Pulling links now.

rogueteens · 01-26-2015, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

i never made a single cent with them...

I did really well for about a year, since then - absolute zero.

iamBoogieman · 01-26-2015, 04:37 AM

Nice share.

Far-L · 01-26-2015, 05:33 AM

B-b-b-but I thought that CCbill was fraud proof...

Affiliates love to blame programs for killing the affiliate model but the truth is so many affiliates just self annihilated by chasing all these no name fly by night progs like lemmings running for the cliffs.

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Struggle4Bucks · 01-26-2015, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babeterminal

i thought i would start this thread for affiliates who find ccbill program owners who cheat affiliates this includes those that run ccbill affiliate sign ups but use a different payment system [this does not included those that use cascading or other secondary payments]

Be careful... cascading is not designed for catching affiliate-id's when a program uses two or more billers. The fact that programs with 2 or more billing options use cascading says nothing.... Cascading is only for a rejected processing at biller A... then send customer through "denial cascade-link" to secondary biller.... then it works.... But... if there is no denial at Biller A there is no cascade-link= no credit for affiliate.

So... if you send visitor via a ccbill promo-tool to site and there visitor will get the ... let's say... verotel join form... you can have all cascading you want... but affiliate will not be credited because there was no denial prior to the sign up....

Program that uses 2 or more billers must be sure that they serve ccbill-join form when visitor comes from ccbill-tour... and serve for example Epoch-join form when visitor comes via epoch-codes..... Or... the program must use a third party software like nats or sliiing or whatever.... to catch the affiliate-codes when using more then one biller...

babeterminal · 01-26-2015, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

Be careful... cascading is not designed for catching affiliate-id's when a program uses two or more billers. The fact that programs with 2 or more billing options use cascading says nothing.... Cascading is only for a rejected processing at biller A... then send customer through "denial cascade-link" to secondary biller.... then it works.... But... if there is no denial at Biller A there is no cascade-link= no credit for affiliate.

So... if you send visitor via a ccbill promo-tool to site and there visitor will get the ... let's say... verotel join form... you can have all cascading you want... but affiliate will not be credited because there was no denial prior to the sign up....

Program that uses 2 or more billers must be sure that they serve ccbill-join form when visitor comes from ccbill-tour... and serve for example Epoch-join form when visitor comes via epoch-codes..... Or... the program must use a third party software like nats or sliiing or whatever.... to catch the affiliate-codes when using more then one biller...

how true is this.... i did not know this, does anyone have prove of this i test cascade links all the time most times they go to a second biller

SNRProductions · 01-26-2015, 06:14 PM

Didn't know people did this. My guess is whoever does do this doesn't last long in this business.

We use both CCBill and Epoch on our forms but we cascade so the affiliate always gets credit.

brassmonkey · 01-26-2015, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

B-b-b-but I thought that CCbill was fraud proof...

Affiliates love to blame programs for killing the affiliate model but the truth is so many affiliates just self annihilated by chasing all these no name fly by night progs like lemmings running for the cliffs.

how is that fraud tho?

Focus · 01-26-2015, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

B-b-b-but I thought that CCbill was fraud proof...

Affiliates love to blame programs for killing the affiliate model but the truth is so many affiliates just self annihilated by chasing all these no name fly by night progs like lemmings running for the cliffs.

i gotta agree with you 100% there

Far-L · 01-26-2015, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

how is that fraud tho?

Good point as long as the prog is not misleading about the payout then it would not be fraudulent, correct. It is just shady on a program to make any changes without notices.

CCbill is legit, but desperate programs will do desperate things regardless.

iSpyCams · 01-26-2015, 09:21 PM

If people are gonna screw you they are gonna screw you. The brand of biller makes no difference.

CCBill gets bad press cause that's often the first place people start with billing. It's a great place to start. People who fuck their affiliates over don't last, no matter who they bill with, but it makes sense there's a few scammers with CCbill, they are just starting out and won't get far.

babeterminal · 01-27-2015, 12:38 PM

studio66tv use to be elitetv i guess bells should of rung when they change their company name they are not small company the wank stains

NatalieK · 01-27-2015, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babeterminal

studio66tv is now using vxsbill nice of them to inform us all the fuckers

you know people tell me to keep an eye on the eastern european people in this business but the most fuckers for cheating i have come across are the fucking brits

and there's my adult business, running for years, still providing good quality updates, still providing only one tier cascade to provide the affiliate with the appropriate sale

My partner's said for years, send traffic to gspotcash.net & send traffic to my site & i'll make you money

babeterminal · 01-27-2015, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

and there's my adult business, running for years, still providing good quality updates, still providing only one tier cascade to provide the affiliate with the appropriate sale

My partner's said for years, send traffic to gspotcash.net & send traffic to my site & i'll make you money

you have one milf on 6 sites now your pushing vicky vettes network that has fucking leaks all over those porn star sites

invest in some of those latinas over there i heard some do it for soup and bread...........

brassmonkey · 01-27-2015, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

Good point as long as the prog is not misleading about the payout then it would not be fraudulent, correct. It is just shady on a program to make any changes without notices.

CCbill is legit, but desperate programs will do desperate things regardless.

ccbill needs to lock the payout deal. until the owner sends out notice of the change

ccbill should built that in the script

babeterminal · 07-15-2015, 09:17 AM

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NatalieK · 07-15-2015, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babeterminal

you have one milf on 6 sites now your pushing vicky vettes network that has fucking leaks all over those porn star sites

invest in some of those latinas over there i heard some do it for soup and bread...........

My site has 6 niche tours of me, & 2 other websites included in 1 membership. Having the 6 niche tours allow affiliates to send their niche traffic to each separate tour.

At no point do I "push" vicky vettes network, it's the live cam with no outbound links I promote on my site. I am part of it & the daily shows are seen from inside my members area.

I do not understand your point to this post especially when the thread is about ccbill programs cheating affiliates, of which I never have.

My program gives a full 50% to our affiliates & do not leak to other networks

babeterminal · 07-15-2015, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

I do not understand your point to this post especially when the thread is about ccbill programs cheating affiliates, of which I never have.

yes u do not understand pushing your program in a cheaters thread

xXXtesy10 · 07-15-2015, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babeterminal

yes u do not understand pushing your program in a cheaters thread

that fucking guy is a clown

NatalieK · 07-15-2015, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babeterminal

yes u do not understand pushing your program in a cheaters thread

If you have something to say, say it, and please post proof because I do not like your allegation over my website!

I work very hard filming new content for my members every week, as you can see from my updates. I enjoy my work & enjoy chatting & performing on live cam.

Our program has always been an honest program, as is my partner & I

DVTimes · 07-15-2015, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

If you have something to say, say it, and please post proof because I do not like your allegation over my website!

I work very hard filming new content for my members every week, as you can see from my updates. I enjoy my work & enjoy chatting & performing on live cam.

Our program has always been an honest program, as is my partner & I

I presume he means you have big traffic leaks on your badly designed slow loading site.

Example: arsewithclass.com/livecam.php

You have lots of links to livejasmin.

DVTimes · 07-15-2015, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

If you have something to say, say it, and please post proof because I do not like your allegation over my website!

I work very hard filming new content for my members every week, as you can see from my updates. I enjoy my work & enjoy chatting & performing on live cam.

Our program has always been an honest program, as is my partner & I

Also on arsewithclass.com/freetour.php#niches you have links to your twitter feed. And your promoting youkandy on your twitter feed.

Hope that helps you gary.

12-05-2014, 04:31 PM	#1
babeterminal Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: tits Posts: 2,751	ccbill program owners who cheat affiliates i thought i would start this thread for affiliates who find ccbill program owners who cheat affiliates this includes those that run ccbill affiliate sign ups but use a different payment system [this does not included those that use cascading or other secondary payments] programs that change the payout percentage after an affiliate signs up this includes those that advertise 50/60% then lower it to a ridiculous percentage like 25% or 00.01% like these cocksuckers https://gfy.com/20313154-post25.html stick to ccbill only here most know zombaio/verotel/epoch programs do this all the time especially verotel who in 10 years i have never had a sale with that stayed when i did get a sale with verotel soon after the program disappeared along with the money

12-05-2014, 08:19 PM	#5
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12-06-2014, 06:46 AM	#7
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12-06-2014, 06:59 AM	#8
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12-05-2014, 04:36 PM	#2
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12-06-2014, 07:51 AM	#9
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12-06-2014, 08:10 AM	#10
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12-06-2014, 08:17 AM	#11
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12-06-2014, 09:00 AM	#12
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12-06-2014, 03:23 PM	#14
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12-06-2014, 09:33 PM	#17
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12-21-2014, 12:22 PM	#21
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01-25-2015, 06:03 PM	#23
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01-25-2015, 06:23 PM	#24
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	It's also that CCBill doesn't give two shits about affiliates anymore. They make the cheating easy. You don't even get an email if the program changes the rebill or join percentage. There is no alert or anything if they change the PID. It doesn't even try to compensate you. It just silently gives the sponsor the full sale and fuck the affiliate. People have been telling them for years to make changes but they don't care. This business is full of scumbags and they know they have to cater to them. __________________ You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

01-25-2015, 07:03 PM	#26
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01-26-2015, 06:14 PM	#35
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01-27-2015, 12:38 PM	#40
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