Slow Paying programs

[faxxaff]

What is your tolerance for late payments from programs as an affiliate? I have been hesitant in breaking bridges for a long time.

When I contact programs about late payments they usually reply something like "others pay later than us ... you should be OK with this". Others are more professional and apologize, but keep paying later and later ... and then there are those that blame others like their dog who ate the bank dongle or issues with Paxum, Zombaio, UPS and so on.

After months and years of keeping support to legacy sponsors, I have cut down on sending traffic to sponsors that pay later than 2 or 3 weeks. There is just no reason for them to pay affiliates later than that. Every company should be able to shoulder expenses for 3 or 4 months in advance. They won't be able to get any return from letting funds sit in their bank account, either.

As a result on putting more effort into timely paying sponsors and cutting down links on late payers my revenue has increased, significantly. Hope my experience may help others in putting more efforts into timely paying sponsors. Cheers.

[Nicky]

We pay weekly with a 3 week delay. The delay is for fraud control since we pay high PPS on trails.

[The Porn Nerd]

This is precisely why I've used CCBill for years now and am hesitant to switch to NATS. I want my affiliates paid ASAP, and with CCBill we have the limit set at $20. So take that plus the ability to combine payouts and CCBill affiliates are some of the happiest still left in Adult.

Your strategy is excellent tho, and it's paying off for you so kudos!!

[faxxaff]

Originally Posted by Nicky

We pay weekly with a 3 week delay. The delay is for fraud control since we pay high PPS on trails.

Fraud control is a valid reason for monitoring brand new affiliates in high risk niches. Nothing to say against that as long as it is just applied to new or high risk partners.

A normal online business with years of experience should be able to assess risks of new individual affiliates and isolate them. So many ways of doing that. Other affiliates should not participate in the risk of a program. Affiliates are not shareholders, but suppliers of traffic and income.

Anyhow, I was more relating to programs that pay after 5, 6, 7 weeks on a less frequent basis. Good luck to your Hentai program.

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

This is precisely why I've used CCBill for years now and am hesitant to switch to NATS. I want my affiliates paid ASAP, and with CCBill we have the limit set at $20. So take that plus the ability to combine payouts and CCBill affiliates are some of the happiest still left in Adult.

Your strategy is excellent tho, and it's paying off for you so kudos!!

I hardly ever saw a program that made me more money when they changed from CCBill to Nats. In most cases the revenue declined.

[jscott]

Last time I mentioned about a sponsor paying late, my account was suspended for a couple of days.

So I won't name names anymore lol

But ya, some pay late lately due to some Paxum problem, slow wires getting approved or something like that.

[adultchatpay]

I think the standard is bi-monthly payouts.

[SomeCreep]

Not all sponsors are created equally, that's for sure. Paying on time is a luxury. Some sponsors skip payments altogether. Just receiving every payment takes emails.

[TheMoneyMan]

Paying on time is important. Get with a network that takes you as a priority and pays you on time.

Errors can happen here and there, but if you have to constantly chase payments thats no good. You can spend that time launching more campaigns.

Payment delays are usually a bad sign... they could be holding your payment for suspect of fraud or to see if the traffic converts on the backend. They may also just not have the money in the account at that time.

we pay weekly BTW with a 5 day delay.

[brassmonkey]

nice ratios has some of the slowest with paperstreet

[3xmedia]

Originally Posted by TheMoneyMan

Paying on time is important. Get with a network that takes you as a priority and pays you on time.

Errors can happen here and there, but if you have to constantly chase payments thats no good. You can spend that time launching more campaigns.

Payment delays are usually a bad sign... they could be holding your payment for suspect of fraud or to see if the traffic converts on the backend. They may also just not have the money in the account at that time.

we pay weekly BTW with a 5 day delay.

[LeRoy]

Fucking Mercury Retrograde...

[RyuLion]

ccbill has a 2 week delay for good reasons..

[faxxaff]

Originally Posted by RyuLion

ccbill has a 2 week delay for good reasons..

I thought it's just one week. However, they do pay weekly. Compared to a monthly program that pays 6 weeks late .... they are 8 to 9 checks ahead.

Originally Posted by TheMoneyMan

They may also just not have the money in the account at that time.

Sad, but true. Just puzzled how people can keep running a biz when they don't want to keep 3 to 4 months on revenue in their accounts.

[pamon]

Seems like paxum is causing delays for some. Mine usually pay but running shower on one but will hopefully work out soon

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by LeRoy

Fucking Mercury Retrograde...

+2

[HowlingWulf]

The one program I consistently have problems with has you manually request a payout. I'll do that multiple times over weeks and sometimes months without hearing anything back. Then I'll finally complain on GFY and every time I hear back almost immediately. Usually the response includes "I've been busy, I forgot, I need to transfer funds to pay you, I didn't see your requests or emails sent multiple times from multiple sources' etc. I just don't think he cares too much about it.

[ravo]

Originally Posted by faxxaff

Just puzzled how people can keep running a biz when they don't want to keep 3 to 4 months on revenue in their accounts.

I'd be CRAZY to keep 3-4 months revenue in Paxum! I remember Epass. (we came close to losing close to $50K there, and I never want to take that chance again)

We keep as little as possible in ANY third-party payment processor (Paxum, Payoneer, Paypal) as there is just too much risk in keeping significant amounts there.

However, we do maintain a healthy reserve in our own domestic bank accounts.

[faxxaff]

Originally Posted by ravo

I'd be CRAZY to keep 3-4 months revenue in Paxum! I remember Epass. (we came close to losing close to $50K there, and I never want to take that chance again)

We keep as little as possible in ANY third-party payment processor (Paxum, Payoneer, Paypal) as there is just too much risk in keeping significant amounts there.

However, we do maintain a healthy reserve in our own domestic bank accounts.

I think there is no need to keep any balance in Paxum. Just wire the funds to paxum once and distribute it to all affiliates same say they show up in wallet. Takes a week max. Some programs tell me they ACH small amounts to Paxum every day then process affs just to save 30 or 50 bucks on fees per month. Sorry, but I don't buy that they need to save 50 bucks a month in fees and waste so much time on balancing their funds. Why don't they charge affs a buck or two and let them pay for the fee?

I agree companies should keep a healthy balance in the bank.