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Old 08-06-2012, 07:08 PM   #1
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Who is WTF Bucks?

Can someone tell me who is behind them?
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Old 08-06-2012, 07:12 PM   #2
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Sound like someone else has been enticed by their clever email marketing campaign*.





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Old 08-06-2012, 07:13 PM   #3
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All I know is I've been getting a lot of spam from them (including spam sent to an address I only used to sign up for one of your programs: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1075083 )

Do a GFY search for wtfbucks and you'll find lots of threads about those spammers. Nicky from Eurorevenue was already looking into how they got a hold of addresses people only shared with Eurorevenue.
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I don't even know who they are. They hack our www.LordsOfPorn.com webmaster list. Our other 3 programs didn't get touched.

I juts want to know so we can take legal action.

Anyone?
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Old 08-06-2012, 07:16 PM   #5
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a few other's that got hit:
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1076000
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All I know is I've been getting a lot of spam from them (including spam sent to an address I only used to sign up for one of your programs: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1075083 )

Do a GFY search for wtfbucks and you'll find lots of threads about those spammers. Nicky from Eurorevenue was already looking into how they got a hold of addresses people only shared with Eurorevenue.
They set off a seed unique email at Natnet. There is no question they are hacking programs still on NATS 3. Like I said our NATS 4 programs (which are much bigger) didn't get hit.
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I don't even know who they are. They hack our www.LordsOfPorn.com webmaster list. Our other 3 programs didn't get touched.

I juts want to know so we can take legal action.

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Old 08-06-2012, 07:21 PM   #8
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Ask Robbie. Maybe he knows. He said he was pushing them. Maybe he has information on where they send their payments from.
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Ah, mystery solved . . . well, my mystery of how they got my email, as I don't promote the other programs which have complained so far.

Hacking NATS installs to spam is almost as bad as the AFF spam. The AFF spam masquerades as emails one actually has to engage with, so it wastes more time.

But, sheesh, who the heck promotes programs which spammed them?
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Old 08-06-2012, 07:55 PM   #10
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They set off a seed unique email at Natnet. There is no question they are hacking programs still on NATS 3. Like I said our NATS 4 programs (which are much bigger) didn't get hit.
Jay, if you could send an email to webmaster [attttt] islanddollars.com. Want more details on this. Thanks.
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Old 08-06-2012, 08:03 PM   #12
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They most likely used an exploit in un-patched Nats 3 installs (i think this was about a year ago?)
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that sucks jay, if its being used on nats3 install, im sure a lot of programs will be effected, if thats the reason with all the emails, im sure its just not 3 or 4 different programs db's they have now.

cause ive gotten about 20-25 emails all together over a period of time, not all belonging to the same program.
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Old 08-06-2012, 09:31 PM   #14
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for everyones sake i hope xxxjay fucks them up!
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That's them. They've been sending out these spam emails for a few months now so been doing it for awhile now.
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WTFBucks: Veldix Trading Ltd

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Who is DDFCash (apparently they are involved too)? I just looked at their site and WTF? It's a fucking joke.

http://nats.ddfcash.com
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Take your head out of your ass.
Fuck off.

Edit: I'll explain my post above to avoid any more tiresome dumbfuck replies like BrainDamageX. Obviously I know DDFCash, but their site looks like it's either been hacked (like their database) by retards or it's been taken over by retards. So the question is who are they now, or what has happened to their site?

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WTF Bucks, so we can all agree they are blacklistable? Adding today

I was annoyed with their email spams, but hacking databases to get our emails, that is just fucked up!!!

I hope you guys get some good legal actions against them fucks
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Yeah, good luck collecting...

Take your head out of your ass.
why do you always have this MrKnowItAll attitude?
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I was annoyed with their email spams, but hacking databases to get our emails, that is just fucked up!!!
I hope you guys get some good legal actions against them fucks
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why do you always have this MrKnowItAll attitude?
Like you know so much but you never actually say anything.
Maybe I'm so stupid and insecure that I have to adopt such an attitude, in order to feel good about myself?

Or maybe I just know a lot of shit?

You pick one, makes no difference to me which.
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Or maybe I just know a lot of shit?

You pick one, makes no difference to me which.
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Thanks.

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I am also getting this through anonymous sources...

I strongly assume WTF Bucks are the same company as http://serious-partners.com/ - Russians well known for stealing content and no 2257.

Even the program structure, layout is the same, their terms are the same and their aff. rep is Russian.

http://serious-partners.com/rules.html

http://wtfbucks.com/external.php?page=terms

The only company listed is

AVS Group Ltd, Suite 102, Ground Floor, Blake Building, Corner Eyre & Hutson Streets, Belize City
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NATS - what a pile of shite.

I have no idea why you all use this piece of garbage.
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NATS - what a pile of shite.

I have no idea why you all use this piece of garbage.
I disagree, but you are entitled to your wrong opinion.
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Luckily we use NATS v4.1 so our list should be safe. Good luck in pursuing this Jay
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I am also getting this through anonymous sources...

I strongly assume WTF Bucks are the same company as http://serious-partners.com/ - Russians well known for stealing content and no 2257.

Even the program structure, layout is the same, their terms are the same and their aff. rep is Russian.

http://serious-partners.com/rules.html

http://wtfbucks.com/external.php?page=terms

The only company listed is

AVS Group Ltd, Suite 102, Ground Floor, Blake Building, Corner Eyre & Hutson Streets, Belize City
I searched that addy when I got spammed, it is an incorporating lawyers office in Belize, so they paid him to incorperate a company for them, and are paying him to act as a DMCA agent. Or they are just using the addy.

they appear to also own this:
http://daltronn.com/homepage.php
which has it's own affiliate program

and process through a Cyprus corp called Hard media Inc.
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I don't think that counts as proof.
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I strongly assume WTF Bucks are the same company as http://serious-partners.com/
and also 35pps.com

http://35pps.com/license.php

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NATS (v4.1.2.1) LICENSE



This Version of NATS is licensed to:
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http://nats.wtfbucks.com/license.php

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Is there proof of any hacking?
They might not have hacked the databases themselves. They might just have bought the lists from a hacker, but it's a fact that some affiliate program's databases have been compromised and are being spammed by WTF Bucks.

Multiple people have confirmed to have received spam from WTF Bucks on unique email addresses which they have only used to signup for a specific program. At least 2 programs have been identified. The owner of 1 program was even informed by his host that his database was compromised, because when the host setup their Nats they seeded it with a Unique email, on which they now received email from WTF Bucks. Hence this thread.
There is no doubt about it that WTF Bucks spams compromised affiliate databases.

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Luckily we use NATS v4.1 so our list should be safe. Good luck in pursuing this Jay
Hopefully we can find these scumbags and hang them by their scrotum. If not, hopefully everyone will be smart enough to not to business with them.
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