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Old 03-11-2012, 12:22 PM   #1
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US soldier kills Afghan civilians in Kandahar

A US soldier in Afghanistan has shot dead 15 civilians and wounded others after entering their homes in Kandahar province, Afghan and Nato sources say.

He reportedly left his base early in the morning to attack village homes. Nine children are among the dead.

The White House voiced "deep concern" and Nato-led forces in Afghanistan promised a rapid inquiry

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17332398
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Old 03-11-2012, 12:28 PM   #2
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not much difference between him and the stray bombs they drop on the "wrong" target every few months
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Is that a problem? They are not Americans and they can't hit back, so why don't kill them? My grandma has lived on a territory occupied by Nazi during WWII. Personally I can't see any difference here. The Nazi came to kill, rape and steal. Obey or die.
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My vote would be to just Nuke the whole area and be done with it.
Kentucky? Don't think your neighbors will agree to that point.
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Crazy person + guns is a very bad combination in any country whether a soldier or not.
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My vote would be to just Nuke the whole area and be done with it.
What have they done to you exactly again?
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boy, you guys are quick.....

Edit: It's a waste Lives, Money, Resources etc. to even be there. Actually my "vote" would be to get out of there and move on, If it's so bad that we are made to use force, instead of spending 100's of billions of dollars going to war, Just send a Nuke and be done with it.


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they live near the oil!
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The main thing in the story is that this was one person who had a mental breakdown before the incident. It's even in the report. However the afghan leaders are framing it as if it was "US forces" committing murder. Well, only because the man who went on a killing spree happened to be a soldier in that country. He'd have done it in America if he was stationed here and had his mental breakdown. This is one of those things where you can see by reactions where a leader stands. So far it looks like he wants there to be an uprising.
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He went postal. Or in this case, he went APO.
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Is that a problem? They are not Americans and they can't hit back, so why don't kill them? My grandma has lived on a territory occupied by Nazi during WWII. Personally I can't see any difference here. The Nazi came to kill, rape and steal. Obey or die.
Yep..my grandma also.Although Germans used to announce when there will be execution.
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Hmmmm... an American terrorist in Afghanistan. Surprise.

Can you imagine the shit storm if an Afghan did the same in the USA?
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http://www.google.com/search?q=afgha...isch&source=og vs http://www.google.com/search?q=wwii+...isch&source=og

Can you see the difference?
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Crazy person + guns is a very bad combination in any country whether a soldier or not.
err, make that a CRAZY NATION ... the US is like a fucked up kid not knowing MINE and YOURS ... you dont wanna sell yer oil to us? ok, we fuck up yer country and TAKE it
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err, make that a CRAZY NATION ... the US is like a fucked up kid not knowing MINE and YOURS ... you dont wanna sell yer oil to us? ok, we fuck up yer country and TAKE it
The US isn't looking to buy their oil. The Chinese are:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...-reserves.html

Now if Afghanistan had a lot of useless wind turbines, solar panels and electric cars to sell the US would be all over it.
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This is what happens when looney's have access to a gun. Yet America doesn't see the problem with EVERYONE having access to gun, with the amount of looney's going around ?? Strange...
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would it make you feel better if I told you my friend was killed over there?
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The sad thing is, we call them terrorists and insurgents.

Osama killed 3000 on 9-11.

We've since killed 15,000+ Afghan civilians, over 100,000 Iraqi civilians, and over 30,000 in Pakistan. This does not even count the staggering numbers of wounded and the loss of coalition troops.

The numbers show you who the real terrorists are. Stats never lie.
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would it make you feel better if I told you my friend was killed over there?
Soory for you loss ... but it is a voluntary ( mercenary ) army, so he knew what he signed up for...

As you guys say so often: its a war, shit happens.
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would it make you feel better if I told you my friend was killed over there?
lol come on man your friend went over there and got killed its not like he wasnt asking for it by going there in the first place and if youre so against people getting killed how can you so easily just say that millions and millions of innocent women and children and men should die in a nuclear explosion there?
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Same thing as Mai Lai -- less organized and one soldier's work.

Osama bin Laden is dead and al-Qaeda has suffered a major setback but the complete destruction of al-Qaeda is not attainable -- you cannot destroy an idea that people believe in.

The "war," if that is what is, has been over for months now -- it is time to go. A rerun smackdown in the future will not be so lengthy ...

I really doubt any "lesson" has been learned by either side here.
There is no clear victory to be had and there never was.

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The sad thing is, we call them terrorists and insurgents.

Osama killed 3000 on 9-11.

We've since killed 15,000+ Afghan civilians, over 100,000 Iraqi civilians, and over 30,000 in Pakistan. This does not even count the staggering numbers of wounded and the loss of coalition troops.

The numbers show you who the real terrorists are. Stats never lie.
Afghanistan did not have a national Army so all combatants are civilians. How many of the 15,000 were not combatants? The Iraqi insurgents/combatants were civilians. How many of the 100,000 were not combatants? BTW...a large number of the 100,000 were killed by their fellow countryman. How many of the 30,000 Pakistani's were Al Qaeda combatants...how many were Taliban combatants. BTW...a significant number of the 30,000 have been killed by the Pakistani Army.

When the U.S. engages in combat...the normal kill ratio ranges from 10-1 up to 1000-1.
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Afghanistan did not have a national Army so all combatants are civilians. How many of the 15,000 were not combatants? The Iraqi insurgents/combatants were civilians. How many of the 100,000 were not combatants? BTW...a large number of the 100,000 were killed by their fellow countryman. How many of the 30,000 Pakistani's were Al Qaeda combatants...how many were Taliban combatants. BTW...a significant number of the 30,000 have been killed by the Pakistani Army.

When the U.S. engages in combat...the normal kill ratio ranges from 10-1 up to 1000-1.
There you go posting facts and shit that makes sense. You're going to piss everyone off.
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Afghanistan did not have a national Army so all combatants are civilians. How many of the 15,000 were not combatants? The Iraqi insurgents/combatants were civilians. How many of the 100,000 were not combatants? BTW...a large number of the 100,000 were killed by their fellow countryman. How many of the 30,000 Pakistani's were Al Qaeda combatants...how many were Taliban combatants. BTW...a significant number of the 30,000 have been killed by the Pakistani Army.

When the U.S. engages in combat...the normal kill ratio ranges from 10-1 up to 1000-1.
*yawn*

Probably the majority of them were not combatants. And speaking of, they are just defending their home and country. They are not combatants. They are fighting against people who are invading them. WE INVADED THEM. They are in the right, we are wrong. 100% in the wrong.

None of them deserved to die. Not one. Even those who were shooting at coalition troops did not deserve to die because that is the same thing you and I would do if they would have invaded us. We simplify it and call them "insurgents" but in reality they are doing what every American would do if we were attacked by an invading force.

I know you're brainwashed by the military and a proud American, but every single one of those deaths was a stone cold murder.
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Afghanistan did not have a national Army so all combatants are civilians. How many of the 15,000 were not combatants? The Iraqi insurgents/combatants were civilians. How many of the 100,000 were not combatants? BTW...a large number of the 100,000 were killed by their fellow countryman. How many of the 30,000 Pakistani's were Al Qaeda combatants...how many were Taliban combatants. BTW...a significant number of the 30,000 have been killed by the Pakistani Army.

When the U.S. engages in combat...the normal kill ratio ranges from 10-1 up to 1000-1.
The children too were combatants? The women? The bombed weddiing parties?


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Probably the majority of them were not combatants. And speaking of, they are just defending their home and country. They are not combatants. They are fighting against people who are invading them. WE INVADED THEM. They are in the right, we are wrong. 100% in the wrong.

None of them deserved to die. Not one. Even those who were shooting at coalition troops did not deserve to die because that is the same thing you and I would do if they would have invaded us. We simplify it and call them "insurgents" but in reality they are doing what every American would do if we were attacked by an invading force.

I know you're brainwashed by the military and a proud American, but every single one of those deaths was a stone cold murder.
You certainly have a right to have an opinion...even one as fucked up as yours...which I consider to be nothing more than pigshit...and not worthy of consideration. You are now dismissed.
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The children too were combatants? The women? The bombed weddiing parties?


None so blind as those who refuse to see.
Some children in fact were combatants as well as some women...and unfortunately every conflict has collateral damage
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You certainly have a right to have an opinion...even one as fucked up as yours...which I consider to be nothing more than pigshit...and not worthy of consideration. You are now dismissed.
It's not an opinion. It's a fact. WE INVADED THEM. They are protecting themselves and trying to push us out, as they should.

But I'd expect that head in the sand response from someone who supposedly served and faked his own death on a porn message board. However, you don't have a real reply because there is no logical one other than what I've already stated.
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Oh, well that makes it all OK. Just call it "collateral damage" and it's all good.
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Make a man kill and see the horrors of war and you think he is going to remain sane? The majority of soldiers dont die in battle or during the war at all but when they get home. Suicide is a massive problem amongst former service men.

I personally look at him as a victim as well.
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When the U.S. engages in combat...the normal kill ratio ranges from 10-1 up to 1000-1.
Did " rebels" in Libya part of < a national army >.... Did not stop you guys to support them against the < national army > ...
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Did " rebels" in Libya part of < a national army >.... Did not stop you guys to support them against the < national army > ...
I suppose you must have had a point to make...but I do not know what it is.
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if you sore you friends getting killed everyday wouldn't you want to take revenge ?
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Ask.. Pathfinder .... ... PIGSHIT
OK...so you did not have a point to make. BTW...PF has been dead for more than nine years...and I...thus far...have been unable to communicate with the dead.
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And speaking of, they are just defending their home and country. They are not combatants. They are fighting against people who are invading them. WE INVADED THEM. They are in the right, we are wrong. 100% in the wrong.
Regardless of who is right or wrong, anybody engaging in combat is a _______.

Hint: Nine letter word, starting with c
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Regardless of who is right or wrong, anybody engaging in combat is a _______.

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there is 2362 words with 9 letters begging with c
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so if i came up to you and shot your family dead and then pointed the gun at you do you really think its fair to say that when you rush at me and i shoot you dead that i was in the right because you were rushing at me? (hypothetical relax)
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so if i came up to you and shot your family dead and then pointed the gun at you do you really think its fair to say that when you rush at me and i shoot you dead that i was in the right because you were rushing at me? (hypothetical relax)
How does your question have anything at all to do with his statement about anyone that engages in combat is a combatant?
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Is that a problem? They are not Americans and they can't hit back, so why don't kill them? My grandma has lived on a territory occupied by Nazi during WWII. Personally I can't see any difference here. The Nazi came to kill, rape and steal. Obey or die.
Very unfair comparison. This was a lone idiot that obviously snapped, not policy.

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