Paul Markham

It's a different scene.



Were you too stupid to see that, lied or just wanted to look stupid and get owned yourself?

OWNED

I think you'll find I said I wasn't convinced he owned the company, wasn't convinced it's as big as he makes out and people giving away free content ruined the industry. Which is true. But the problem was we had marketing people of your calibre running the marketing side. And all the time they were bleating "You don't understand online marketing".

Giving away the product in the quantity online porn did, when online porn had millions of potential customers coming to the Internet and spending a fortune and shaping the industry so giving it away was the main priority. Was about the most stupid marketing, online of off, ever.

As you're clueless about that and refuse to come to Czech to see the truth. You're the liar.

Dreadful to see you continue to lie and make yourself look like a loser.

Can't even get posting a video right. You don't understand the Internet.

Thanks for keeping this thread at the top. Where should I send the money. To your little bedsit in Brighton?

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DamianJ

No, that's not really true is it?

You claimed he personally has ruined the industry, then you take money from him.

Judas.

Paul Markham

Can you go find the post please. Do a better job than you did last time.

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plsureking

lol the really funny part is now anybody who posts in this thread is called "stupid"

we are all watching Paul's huge fail on this project and the end of his career but he is still trying to maintain control of this thread by insulting every response.

it is very funny indeed..
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one of the manwin tubes probably makes more in a day than you did over your whole "career."

porn is alive and well.

INever

What's funny is you are arguing about something that has no relevance anymore.

"Bad" and "Good" porn are just 2 genres among many.

HIgh production values can actually look "old school" to some of the newest generation of potential customers.

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Low production values can look old school to the "newest generation of potential customers."

Don't come up with BS to justify low grade porn.

and if you think high production values has anything to do with good or bad porn or new school or old school porn, you're in the wrong business.

A kid filming his GF on his mobile can produce better porn values than a guy with a $20,000 camera, crew and everything else. A person without the personality trying to do what that BF/GF combo can do is also no guaranty of porn quality.

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DamianJ

"I forgot I needed a monitor, I didn't have a mic, I'm really ill".

Paul Markham

We will have to see what it's like won't we?

And take the opinions of other shooters.

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[QUOTE=Paul Markham;18273477]We will have to see what it's like won't we?

Yes, but as you are already putting excuses out there, I guess you're not confident

Why? You've said time and time again, the only thing that matters is $$$. So, let's take the opinions of the Brazzers users, as if they like it, you will get more work and more $$$.

Porn is purely commercial, not artistic. As you always say.

Paul Markham

Yes Mr troll, it's all about the money.

That's why we weren't shooting scenes exclusive for $300 or $700 for online companies that according to so many here were making far more than offline porn. That was paying $3,000 a SET non exclusive.

What's your excuse for working for so little?

As for the poll. An online paysite poll can be manipulated so easily it's amazing you don't know that. I will wait for what other shooters think.

But it's all irrelevant. We earned $3,000 a set non exclusive while other online shooters were and still are happy to work for peanuts. If we were no better as shooters than them they are fools, if we are better than them. You're a fool.

Well you're a fool what ever the answer is. Still it's true. If we were able to earn so much from a single set, why weren't these guys doing the same? In 2005 there were still plenty of magazines to sell to.

What will your next career be Damian?

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DamianJ

Well that is your mantra, isn't it?

How do you know how much I charge a day?

So you are saying Fabien would deliberately get tens of thousands of people to vote your scene as shit?

Blimey, you really have no confidence in your work at all anymore, do you?

Again, what does it matter what other shooters think? Is it because you think they might be nice to you?

Obviously Fabien's audience have no interest in being nice to you, so will vote honestly.

One where I don't have to beg for money on forums and put my wife out to work in order to pay the bills.

Paul Markham

I pay my bills, non Manwin. So yes it's my mantra. I was able to avoid working for peanuts, because I had better markets. Weak trolling.

It seems you can't charge a lot looking at your home and wardrobe. Weak trolling.

Too dumb a troll to answer. Weak trolling.
After the shoot I realised how weak I was, so not that confident. The stills set is miles above stills on Mofos. I watched the footage on the camera screen when I got back. I'm very confident I captured the porn content I wanted. Which again is miles above what Mofos has. But as porn is a personal thing, some might not like what I did. Others will like it.

I'm not sure about focus and the sound.

Because they will give an honest answers. On site polls can be tampered with.

Lies and more weak trolling.

Damian your trolling game is getting very weak, so until you step it up, I'm ignoring the weak stuff.

You really need to start thinking harder. Like an on site poll can't be tampered with.

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DamianJ

Ooh, the film will be on Brazzers a week today, I think.

Let the countdown commence.

ottopottomouse

28th

next thursday

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Only 1 week to go, then will I be put out to pasture? LOL

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ohhhh what happened with this?
Was the scene released?
What was nathans feedback on it?

Jel

This thread needs 100k unique views, just because.

Paul Markham

It will be released on the 28th of this month. So not long to wait. Then let the slagging really begin.

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I think it will be more laughing Paul.

DamianJ

Where's "Reggie's" "documentary".

Seems odd we've not even seen a 3 second clip of it?

Unless that was another lie too?

theking

Isn't he supposed to be attempting to sell it...as a documentary?

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Damian sweetheart.

A friend here in Brno said it's a lose, lose situation for me. I disagreed, as usual.

If I'm a shit shooter, I still made a lot of money than a lot of "better" shooters. Why is the question.

Now you can tell me I live in a rented cottage in the countryside.

The documentary is not my problem. Ask Reggie. You're the liar, you know that.

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Where is the money now is the question, Paul. It's not on your cottage. It's not on your clothes. It's certainly not on kit as you had to borrow that. It's not on cars.

I wonder where it all went?

He seems to have gone awfully quiet.

Can't imagine why.

Where are you posts from Usenet, liar?

DamianJ

"he" claimed "he" was. but you would have thought he'd have popped up 30 seconds of it by now, wouldn't you?

ReggieDurango

I have indeed gone quiet recently because I've been off distracted by other endeavors, but YES, going to make a documentary.. then try to enter to film festivals and then try to license to cable. It will take some time to finish.
I will post some samples of the footage within a week.
I need more for the piece.. Paul I'd love to get you at a convention.. you still going to the Prague show? I'm not sure if I can make it, but if I can it would be awesome.

Damian, can I interview you for the doc?

Paul Markham

If you're going I will definitely turn up. I emailed Andreas, the organiser, about speaking on a forum after he wanted me theme, but he never replied so might not be one of the speakers on a forum.

Interviewing others like Damian would be a great idea.

Post it on a few of the boards and threads Andreas is posting on.

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In the bank and investments. Unlike many I saw the decline, you know that's true, and didn't buy lots of expensive toys. No Mortgage as we bought the house outright, car we haven't replaced as when it came to replace it with a new one. It was September 2008 and if you recall I had other problems then. Video kit, we never shot custom video or for DVD, so why spend up to $10,000 on a decent HD camera that would be obsolete in a year and proper lighting, etc?

As for stills, we have 2 cameras good enough to get our sets into magazines and so many Multiblitz lights I might sell a few.

Your imagination is a strange thing. You imagine lies and can't see the obvious.

No you're the liar. When did I say I POSTED ON USENET?

DAMIAN WHY DO YOU LIE ALL THE TIME?

Is it your imagination or just troll button?

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good luck

TheDoc

Before I post this... I will say, we did make 100's of sales daily from newsgroups/usenet. For several years, 24/7 we loaded them up and pumped out those numbers, and I can't find anything we ever uploaded today and I remember exactly where some of it went.

Anyway, Paul is full of shit... more than once he has claimed he has promoted on newsgroups/usenet... for years he has been saying it.

This took like 10 seconds to find on google.

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The first two were that I knew, not that I did.

The last one is true. We did, not under my name. Under the name of the CDs.

The big mistake was not watermarking all the images and there was one with videos. We still talk about that. 100s of people were using them on their sites, pirating them, and we were not getting anything from it.

I just asked Damian "When did I say it?"

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DamianJ

You hide your wealth so well by the way you dress, your car, your kit and your house. I like that.

Here:

https://gfy.com/search.php?searchid=3845296

I know you're REALLY FUCKING STUPID but do you know "newsgroups" are "usenet"?

You claim repeatedly you got ratios I wouldn't believe from newsgroup posting. However, the entire history of every newsgroup is recorded and there is nothing from you anywhere I can find.

So, you are a liar. I have demonstrated you are a liar.

As an added tee hee you think usenet and newsgroups are different.

You really are too old for this shit man. Give up now. While you are behind.

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Being a noob (or insert witty comment) to this industry again after some years off I went back to my roots of looking at the boards for knowledge on what has changed and what has stayed the same and came across this thread and others from Paul. First I must say I do not know who you are from what I see you were a good producer of porn back in the day, way back. Can honestly say I have never helped your bankroll for I never bought one mag ever.

Even in the beginning dialing to BBS sites all that was there was porn and the anarchist's cookbook. Bootlegging has always been there and yet people still make money in this industry. Hell I bet some of the first pics I saw were copies of your pics scanned down. Now its millions of pages instead of a handful of phone numbers and aol with 2400 baud modems screeching.

You whine and cry, bitch and moan and go on like grandpa Simpson with a story that goes nowhere but I can say I am impressed. Washed up, out of touch, cynical as you are I must commend you for getting $3,000 for being an ass. I am waiting to see how this ends maybe you will pull it off and show people up but in a week guess we all shall see. As much as you have bashed shooters I think you won't get rave reviews from them and honestly IMO sales is where it needs to be. Can you get the all that market that so many of us just supposedly throw away with crappy conversions. You have brass balls for sure because I don't think I would have taken the pittance that was given you. Even though it was more than they normally pay. What you were paid was like when McDonalds paid the lady who spilled coffee in her lap. Was one days sales of what they made in coffee back then. Like throwing a penny away it was probably to them.

You complain that too much free porn is out there and piracy and such, how content is weak and (insert every other insult of anybody or anything here) but are the biggest hypocrite. For someone that hates so much of us affiliates putting too much free porn out, how much money have you made off us putting your weak outdated sets out there? The same complaints you make of all the paysites you do yourself. Plenty of galleries and such for us lowly dogs to sell your wares at one time that still archived out there that bring you money. Recycled content over and over again that don't keep members.

All online porn has been is like Internet stocks and the housing market make as much as you can for as long as you can till it crashes by almost any means necessary until it crashes. Unlike the stocks and houses porn will rebound because you are right in one thing porn has and always be wanted it is who will survive go where the market goes.

Course now I have a low post number so first attack is being new or nic of someone or not the industry for as long as you which is fine. Porn is a different tactic to sell but it still selling and that I have done for over 10 years in direct sales. In the market I'm in 75% do not qualify and of the rest only 2% actually buy. Kinda like another post you did about how many people bought porn mags back in the day in the UK. We deal in the same market porn does which is the younger generation. The market is ever changing but we still exceed volume each and every year. Why? Because we are ever changing how we interact with the market. We do not sit idly by and complain how it has changed but how we stay ahead of the change. We constantly bring in those of the generation or as close as possible to keep us as close to them as possible. The ones that always have stagnated us is those that stayed in the company for too long and refuse to change. Luckily when they get to that point we can send them off to pasture so they can sit in the bar or the message boards to talk about how things used to be and how the ones that took their place have screwed it all up.

Thank goodness in porn because of affiliates because from all that I have seen off and on in my times in this industry we have many times moved the market more than a producer or owner of content. Not to say we haven't made mistakes in it but again how much money have you made off of us? Hell with a 15 year old email account I have 90% of the incoming emails go straight to spam from some of the mistakes that were made in the online industry. This decline in the market will help put to pasture you and those like you that can't change or beating a dead horse so the next generation can take over. Will it ever get back to the good old days? Doubt it but it will rebound just takes that next new idea or revamp of the current business model.

No matter how much you tell everyone how it worked 30 years ago in a medium that was dying about the same time you really got going in the industry and blaming the same thing you use now to try and make money and got $3000 won't bring it back. Sure you have nuggets of wisdom in the rantings you do but it gets drowned out from all the attacks and gibberish you spout.

I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt since bashing is a way of life on message boards sometimes but after two hours of my life I will never get back that I had to respond to this. Makes me feel a little dirty because if we just ignore you you will go away because honestly this is the only thing that makes you feel alive anymore I am sure and we are enabling you.

Waiting in anticipation for the comments for I can say it will probably make me laugh and at the same time a feeling of pity for you

Paul Markham

Rabidwolf. You're clueless.

You are probably making a few bucks. Might even be making a nice living. But the truth is out there for all to see. Porn revenue except in Webcam and Dating is falling. If those 2 sectors are growing at the same rate the others are falling I would be surprised.

I don't blame affiliates, I blame lazy sponsors who thought giving the product away was the best way to sell it.

I don't blame shooters, I blame sponsors who think a bad product will keep selling.

If I worked for a price too low, what do they work for.

The biggest mistake you make shows your ignorance of porn. The market didn't peak in 1980, far from it. If you had a clue when it peaked, you might of written a better flame.

Yes affiliates made a lot of money as a group. Some made a lot of money as individuals. Which is crazy. Paying people so much to give away a product that shouldn't be given away in order to sell it is insane.

Paying affiliates 10% max would not of resulted in one less sale, might of resulted in more. Yes you wouldn't be rich or well off or maybe even in this business. But if you need 50% + to survive with no or little cost incurred. Then you can be done with.

I don't blame you for this or other affiliates. I blame sponsors, the original ones who thought selling porn was hard and warranted such high payout.

Today all porn is suffering due to the amount of free porn. Whether it free legal porn or pirated. There's very little reason to buy.

If 2% of your surfers buy something, you're doing very very well. I suspect that's BS. If it's not it's in a niche that gets very very little traffic or you're very, very, very clever. But what you fail to understand is it could be 10% conversions.

Like everyone else, you flame and flame. Without saying anything.

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"Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms."

Yes I know Newsgroups and Usenet are the same. I used a different word!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Online porn has been very good for Eva and I. Extremely good. It doubled our sales. Having a content store was planned to be a small extra income to the offline sales, it turned out to be far more. Best move I ever made in business.

3 years ago we were hit by double tragedies. Without offline sales and the money coming in from the content we had shot and not sold out right we would be far worse off financially. It's given us an income for 3 years and even though coming to an end, it still manages to add money for us.

Even without the demise of magazines. Without the online sales there no way we could of shot for over a year. Eva was in a plastic corset, for 6 months and after that unable to work. I was in therapy to get rid of my cancer. The recent shoot for Manwin proved one thing to me. I'm a long way from working with a camera again.

So the Internet for 3 years has been our main and now our only business source of income.

My belief is for sponsors, content producers, independent site owners. It could of been far better. Offline would of been doomed, because of the ease of buying online. Look at bookstores, Borders and others are closing because of online e-book sales.

We chose to pay far too much to drive traffic. We made traffic our king and affiliates the Emperors. When there was no need to. Yes give some away, it promotes interest and gives people a sample of what you're selling. But don't give away the entire scene. Don't give away enough to make buying unnecessary. We made a convenience buy into an inconvenience buy.

We relied on recurring sales and gave the member little reason to stay. Even in the best sites, the format was repeated over and over again. The viewer became bored and moved on. In the worse sites, well we know what happened.

Most here made their income on the status quo, so against any criticism. Maybe they are scared that in an industry that paid out 10% they wouldn't make it. That only leaves more money for those who could make it.

What they don't see is the truth. By giving the product away in the quantities we do and making it the most important thing in online porn. They turned off more customers than they ever turned on. If you convert 1-50, you lose 49 interested people. If you convert 1-500 you lose 499 interested people. So converting 1-5,000 which many Tubes do, you're simply losing money.

Warchild recently boasted he could convert 1-500 of banner clicks. He never replied when I asked him how many surfers viewed his Tube samples to get a single click.

Look at the views on this site. http://www.pornhub.com/ millions of views. That to me isn't millions of sales. It's millions of potential customers who don't buy. And don't tell me about all the people who only came to the Internet to get free porn. Would they of come for paid porn also? Maybe not so many, but more than who eventually ended up buying. So many talk about the marvelous access to porn the Internet proved to be. So why give it away for free in the quantities we did?

So yes online porn has been good for me and good for others. Imagine it being 10 times better for YOU.

You think I'm too old to think outside the box, to think of how it is and what ever. I think there's a better way to make money online, not only for me. For you as well. If you're good enough to make it.

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The problem for so many of you is the lack of imagination and knowledge on how to sell porn.

Most can't imagine getting traffic to a porn site without giving away tons of porn. Except for those using things like SE and ad-words. You think any porn will sell, so long as it's a naked girl or guy or both. Few appreciate the true value of great porn.

You think inside the box, you think the way it is, is the only way.

I don't, never have and not just in business. I've always questioned the way it is. Always looked for a better way to do things. Sometimes successfully sometimes not.

In business I didn't think selling only to magazines was the only way. So we sold online as well. Didn't think a store was the only way, so opened a site. Not a great success, but a nice added income for very little costs. This has been the model for my porn career for over 30 years. Even today as it draws to a close, I'm thinking of another way to sell our porn.

We were primarily magazine set shooters. That dictated what we shot. In that market we were very successful. Don't flame my style, it isn't my style. It's the style the magazines bought and bought from us. Smiling teens, 18+, sell and sell well.

Don't flame my videos, they were an added bonus to shooting a set and we sold them mainly online via the stores. If videos had of been the mainstay of the business they would of been far better. They didn't need to be as far better would cost far more and the return wasn't there. Looking at many members areas, other than the definition, few videos are far better.

Lots of shooters don't know how to frame a scene, wide angle is useless if the model is standing. wrong angles and above all the same old tired formats over and over again. And models who clearly are faking there way through another scene. And most scenes don't really have anything for the user to hang onto other than the bare flesh. They lack character and identity.

How many of you retain a member longer than 3 months on average in a mainstream niche?

That's because the member knows for sure theres loads of other sites with similar porn on. In a business that places retention so high, that's not good.

Think there's a better way and don't think inside the box.

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DamianJ

No you didn't. Let's recap?

Then I told you that there was no record of you posting anything on any newsgroups. Then you said:

Then I posted where you said you posted to usenet. ANd asked again for you to find a post you made to newsgroups to back up your lie that you used to get good ratios.

And you can't.

You're pretty mental today, eh?

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xholly

Why would making better videos have cost far more? A little imagination and thinking outside the box could have helped you produce something better at no extra cost. Good excuse tho.

Whatever happened to nathans review? I recall something about not up to usual quality.

Cherry7

So true, imagination can add such a lot.

Also if you are shooting a movie to make a point about quality and are given $3000 to do it, it would have been a good idea to use the money to the video look good...eg

Hire a sound person

Hire a cameraman

Let Paul do his "magic" with the girl

Spend some money on some sexy clothes nice location.....

Get an editor to mix the sound and cut it.

It seems a bit cynical just to take the $2500 money and brag.

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When people are shooting solo girl scenes for $300 a day. The shooter needs to push out 5 a day to make a living.

So yes more money is required.

Given $3,000 I'm sure a better job can be done. But online never paid $3,000 a solo girl scene. Well I never heard of it.

So those who could get that money didn't bother to even look at online porn. So if they had the imagination. They had the sense to sell to markets that paid them.

You can shoot a great solo scene for a lot less than $3,000. The question is "why?"

I could sell loads of solo girl sets for $3,000 and still own them today. It's pointless talking about whose the better shooter because it's will alway be challenged. Who besides me was shooting consistently solo girl sets worth $3,000?

Dean, Dave, Jim, Brian, Aaron?

Why?

Would the trolls be impressed?

Would I get a contract to shoot lots of solo girl scenes for $3,000?

Would I of been able to take the contract?

Business is very cynical. Live with it.

I shot the scene partly because I was challenged to, then it became me wanting to see where I was in my recovery. I was never out to prove to anyone who was the better shooter. If I'm not, I'm a good business man.

However I have seen many members areas and can tell you none, yes none of the shooters who get praised here showing a single shot. Could of ever of got those sets accepted by a magazine. They simply didn't have the poses, angles, shots, lighting and sometimes focus and depth of field good enough. Far too many portrait poses, over and over again shooters who couldn't turn a camera 90 degrees

Maybe they were churning out the set fast to get it over with and move onto the video. Lousy excuse it takes little time to shoot 100 different shots right, as it does to shoot 200 wrong.

As for video. Saw many sites with wide screen video shooting girls in a standing and sitting position. Nice shot of the background, girl fills 25% of the screen.

Hiring all the people you suggest isn't possible on a $500 budget, getting a scene shot properly might be. But why the fuck bother when theres better places to earn money?

Think of it like this. Why send top quality traffic to a site that pays 5% and converts like crap?

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Loads in online pointed fingers at offline porn and said they didn't understand online porn or couldn't crack it. Well they were wrong, a lot did understand online porn.

They were worried giving their offline product away online would harm sales. Someone once posted he tried to promote Viv Thomas's site and Viv wouldn't give him enough content to spread around for free. Think of it from Viv's POV. Would he risk giving away his product for free if it could hurt his sales?

The same applied for many of the others. They knew what was happening, they chose not to get involved. The "knowledge" could of been hired for very little. Some did and did well. Most didn't.

What was wrong was online porn refusing to hire or team up with great shooters and create great sites. Did any of the companies who apparently were making millions every week, approach shooters who could of set their product above the reach of 100s of others?

A few approached me with offers they thought I would jump at. Not knowing I would turn them down in an instant. So forget about approaching great shooters.

If you want a great Gonzo site, approach Ben Dover, Buttman or some other good Gonzo shooter. Preferably a few of them so the site doesn't get repetitive.

If you want a great glamor site like Twistys or Only Tease, approach a great glamor shooter like Viv Thomas or Micheal Ancher.

Same goes for many niches.

So why didn't they? Once inside it was clear the content was no where near Evil Angel, Ben Dover, Playboy, Penthouse or Mayfair standard.

Did it make any difference to the sites turnover? Yes, because retention was shortened. Members aeres simply didn't stand out.

Could they of afforded this level of shooter? That's a good question.

Joking aside and no trolls please. What would it cost to employ a shooter at the top or near that level?

So does it matter if I'm a great shooter, average shooter or as bad as the worse guy to ever pick up a camera? Not an iota. We sold our content for prices online shooters dream about, not site owners, and site owners missed out on selling content offline.

This is of course in the past, the business has now shrunk now to a level where loads of shooters will work for anything going. If they are still in the business.

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DamianJ

So you said.

We'll find out in a few days just what a 3k solo scene shot by an expert looks like.

Paul Markham

You're either too dumb to comprehend, too arrogant to read or just a troll.

It doesn't matter if I'm an expert or a shit shooter.

We earned $3,000 from shooting a solo girl set on a regular basis. Not a one off, not a special and not unusual.

You're skills as a marketing man and your knowledge of how the Internet works, doesn't matter if a company like Microsoft employ you for 4-5 times what you earn now. And do so for 30 years.

Being good isn't worth crap if you're paid badly for it.

A. Would you rather be good at your job and earn $30,000 a year?

B. Or crap and earn $300,000 a year?

Answer the question with why you chose that option.

I choose B. Because B. puts food on our table, a roof over our heads and many other things.

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DamianJ

Well, let's rewind love, you're forgetting some details.

You claimed there wasn't enough money spent on producing quality porn, like you always do, all day long. Fabian then offered you 3k to show us what quality bought.

Now, we get to see what how you spent the 3k to show us what PROPER quality porn looks like.

You've got the skills in making a model feel comfortable with you. Now we get to see what happens when you drop 3k on a scene.

It's going to be eye opening for the industry Paul. This scene, that cost 3k, will make everyone realise they need to be spending that sort of cash when the see the epic you shot. Fabian cut it for you, so you spent no money on editing. So that leaves a lot of cash for you to drop on the production, really setting is aside from the crap on Brazzers.

It's going to be brilliant, even if you did forget a mic or two.

This isn't just an everyday scene. This is *a 3k scene*. And it will really look like 3k was spent, won't it?

I mean, after all, that is your point, right? Spend more on content and you get quality. So let's see what 10 times the going rate gets you. 10 times better porn, I hope! There's no way you would just borrow a camera, get a cheap Brno whore, borrow a lame set with no lights and just shoot a regular scene of a girl wanking. I mean, that wouldn't prove your point at all, and would make you a laughing stock, so there is no way you would have done that.

Even if you lie about posting on newsgroups, and confuse usenet and newsgroups you wouldn't just take the money and run.

So after 35 years of saying you are brilliant, you're now saying your crap?

Blimey, you really have no confidence in this video at all, do you?

I bet you're shitting yourself. Forgot the mic, forgot a monitor, forgot you were ill, forgot to spend any of the money on the scene...

I hope the 3k was worth it for the whole heap of comedy GFY is going to get out of this.

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Paul Markham

As usual lying.

Lying again!!!

I was asked what it would take to get me back to shooting. I said being paid what I used to earn, $3,000. Fabian offered $3,000 to see what I was capable of. Don't remember saying I would shoot anything better than I used to.
Lies. Getting to be a habit with you.
Yes I have charm when I turn it on. First piece of truth.

Lies. you get to see what I shot to earn $3,000

It will be eye opening. It will show what we did to earn decent money for shooting set non exclusive. If bad a lot of people will be kicking themselves for being bad businessmen. If good a lot of people will understand what they need to do.

It doesn't matter if it's brilliant. It's what we earned that matters. A set like this would earn us $3,000 on 2 sales, US and UK. Adding 2nd rights, online content store sales we cleared far more. If I'm a great shooter, a lot of sponsors and content shooters have an excuse for missing ot on that money. If I'm not, they have no excuse.

You just don't get it do you. Not a question.

You just don't get it do you. Not a question.

You just don't get it do you. Not a question.

You just don't get it do you. Not a question. Either a good shooter or good businessman.

doesn't matter, it's a win win situation for me.

Yes after 3 years being out of the game I wasn't on the top of my game. You're not top of your game without an excuse. If I spent $60 or $6,000 shooting it irrelevant. It's about what I got paid. $$$ is King.

Then everyone can thank Fabian, the new Bro on the block, for being so generous.

Damian, you never have been the sharpest tool in the box. In fact bluntest would be a better description.

It's not about how brilliant I am, it's about how much money I earned.

Good offline porn shooters were never recruited by the online guys until online free crashed the business. Even now you don't see many good offline shooters coming into this business. The reason is simple, the money isn't here for them. Except for me with my stores. No one ever offered us enough money to get us away from what we were doing. We were offered stupid money by people who thought they could buy good content for peanuts. Said no. Doesn't matter if we're good or bad. A good shooter working for a bad wage is poor.

A bad shooter working for good money is well off.

If my video is crap, then you can see what a crap shooter can earn. You should of been a shooter like me.

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DamianJ

Oh sorry. I thought you always said porn was shit and you could do better and if only people would spend more on proper shooters they would get better porn.

I didn't realise it was just so you could rip Fabien of for 3 grand and laugh at him for being such a stupid cunt for paying you thinking you would deliver a scene WORTH 3 grand.

My bad.

Carry on.

I guess when the scene is out we won't see what you think proper porn should look like, we just get a bog standard $300 scene that you were clever enough to con someone into paying you 3k for.

You are more clever than I give you credit for, nice trick!

Paul Markham

I was doing something better.
That's my price, if it's not worth it. Then I was shooting a long time content that wasn't worth it.
Well you're blunt when it comes to thinking. But we understand.

Don't need your permission.

Then I conned a lot of people for a very long time.
The truth at last.

Just in case you missed it.

A. Would you rather be good at your job and earn $30,000 a year?

B. Or crap and earn $300,000 a year?

Answer the question and why you chose that option.

Or will you ignore it?

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ReggieDurango

1400 good times