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ottopottomouse · 04-03-2011, 06:58 AM

JFK must be asleep.

Paul Markham · 04-03-2011, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango

"Well, considering you both come from the same era, Heffner obviously did something better than you. And I highly doubt it was the quality of his porn."

yeah, Hefner got a model named Marilyn Monroe

Hefner like so many of the "Gurus" was the first. That's all it takes sometimes to rise to the top. Or sink to the bottom. When Playboy came out he was the top, middle and bottom.

If someone could come up with a brand new idea to produce and deliver porn and get it out before anyone else, In 50 years he would be the Hefner of the 21st Century.

ReggieDurango · 04-03-2011, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

If someone could come up with a brand new idea to produce and deliver porn and get it out before anyone else, In 50 years he would be the Hefner of the 21st Century.

HEY, maybe it could be you, JustDave!

Paul Markham · 04-03-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango

Paul? Will you post your script, or will it remain confidential until after the shoot???

I've signed the contract and part of it is a confidentiality agreement.

So if Fabian wants it posted he will post it.

I can't.

ReggieDurango · 04-03-2011, 01:39 PM

Paul, the consummate professional!

ReggieDurango · 04-03-2011, 01:41 PM

But Paul, in one of your posts you said that YOU typed up the script! Does this mean that from the outline Fabian sent you, you added your own take and typed it into a script?

DWB · 04-03-2011, 01:54 PM

Oh yea... 25 pages with ease.

CaptainHowdy · 04-03-2011, 02:02 PM

Talk about an useless debate ...

ReggieDurango · 04-03-2011, 02:33 PM

What is even being debated, at this point?

Paul Markham · 04-04-2011, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Oh yea... 25 pages with ease.

Their script is fairly general. Mine just beefs it out a bit and makes it more interesting.

This is not how it should be done and leads to obvious mistakes being made. But it's how they want it.

CaptainHowdy so do you have something to say or were you just giving the thread a bump?

Cherry7 · 04-04-2011, 04:03 AM

Please show us the script....

maybe we can all help it be better.....

04-04-2011, 05:19 AM

over 1000 posts. . . wow!

Paul Markham · 04-04-2011, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

Please show us the script....

maybe we can all help it be better.....

Actually that's a very good idea and will show peoples true talent for being inventive. Not going to show what they can actually do with a camera, but what cinema script write can use a camera to the standards required?

Maybe a list of ingredients and people can take them and show what they can do with them. New thread or keep this one jogging along?

Robbie · 04-04-2011, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

New thread or keep this one jogging along?

Keep this one going Paul. It's got a legit shot at being one of the biggest in a while. And it's a freak one because it's actually business related.

ReggieDurango · 04-04-2011, 08:39 AM

Wow, j'agree with Robbie!

Cherry7 · 04-04-2011, 08:59 AM

[QUOTE=Paul Markham;18030100] Not going to show what they can actually do with a camera, but what cinema script write can use a camera to the standards required?

[QUOTE]

Translation please.

Paul Markham · 04-04-2011, 09:22 AM

[QUOTE=Cherry7;18030286][QUOTE=Paul Markham;18030100] Not going to show what they can actually do with a camera, but what cinema script write can use a camera to the standards required?

Quote:

Translation please.

A script writers job is to write a script. A directors job is to direct a film. A cameraman§s job is to shoot.

If it was done in the real world of porn it would be different.

What I'm thinking is a way for everyone to chip in with ideas.

There's another thread going on about retention and the theme is that retention is very important. One of the main reasons that sites who update don't retain a lot better is they shoot the same scene over and over again. Just change the girl.

That negates the point of exclusive content and updates.

Cherry7 · 04-04-2011, 09:41 AM

Can we see the script to see where we are now?

What we are starting with?

Still can't believe anything is actually written down...

BVF · 04-04-2011, 11:21 AM

Fuck the script.....SHOOT THE FUCKING SCENE!

Anthony · 04-04-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango

Where'd you go, JustDave... WHEEEEERRRRREEEEE?

You should probably ask around before kicking a sleeping tiger.

ReggieDurango · 04-04-2011, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

You should probably ask around before kicking a sleeping tiger.

Are you talking to me or JustDave?

Paul Markham · 04-04-2011, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Keep this one going Paul. It's got a legit shot at being one of the biggest in a while. And it's a freak one because it's actually business related.

Then kick the script writing idea off, right here.

Robbie · 04-04-2011, 03:25 PM

You'll have to start with what the girl kinda looks like (big tits, small tits, big ass, tiny ass, blonde, brunette, tats, etc) and the general outline they gave ya (nothing specific)

DamianJ · 04-04-2011, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Then kick the script writing idea off, right here.

What % of the 3k are you giving away for the script consultancy?

Paul Markham · 04-05-2011, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

You'll have to start with what the girl kinda looks like (big tits, small tits, big ass, tiny ass, blonde, brunette, tats, etc) and the general outline they gave ya (nothing specific)

No the idea can be any niche you know. Won't be fair if it's teen female niche and the writers knows the gay niche.

04-05-2011, 05:55 AM

Whens the shooting expected to start ?

Paul Markham · 04-05-2011, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ

What % of the 3k are you giving away for the script consultancy?

Why do you know anyone who can do it for porn?

DamianJ · 04-06-2011, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Why do you know anyone who can do it for porn?

Of course. Many.

But, and I may be being really stupid here, isn't the whole idea of this fictitious shoot you're going to come up with an excuse not to do that *you* are showing the world how to make good porn?

Surely crowd-sourcing your script takes a little away from the "expertise" Fabien is paying you 3k to demonstrate? You're already having to dry hire the kit, now the script, what next? The director?

Not that it matters, cos we all know you're going to bottle it, but academically speaking...

Paul Markham · 04-06-2011, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Of course. Many.

But, and I may be being really stupid here, isn't the whole idea of this fictitious shoot you're going to come up with an excuse not to do that *you* are showing the world how to make good porn?

Surely crowd-sourcing your script takes a little away from the "expertise" Fabien is paying you 3k to demonstrate? You're already having to dry hire the kit, now the script, what next? The director?

Not that it matters, cos we all know you're going to bottle it, but academically speaking...

Why are you selling pornbeer.com and adultmarketing.co.uk

You sold damianjennings.com already. Trying to raise funds to pay the rent?

Fabian is providing the script as it is. I've already beefed it up a lot more.

The idea of people showing how imaginative they are and what they would like to see inside a members area. Hasn't got much response.

Should of asked what webmaster tools they want.

Anyway thanks for the bump.

DamianJ · 04-06-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The idea of people showing how imaginative they are and what they would like to see inside a members area. Hasn't got much response.

Couple of reasons for that:

1) Everyone knows this isn't going to happen, so they don't want to waste their time

2) They think they should be paid for doing your work

3) They don't want to be associated with you or with Fabien

HTH

Your pal

Damian

PS May as well remove the link from your sig, in two weeks you send me 9 clicks. If you want some help making your sig more clickable, let me know. I've had more in the last hour than you've had in 2 weeks.

xxx

PPS How is Eva's new job going?

aztecboi2003 · 04-06-2011, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Maybe I should write a thread on shooting amateur niche.

Please do

Cherry7 · 04-06-2011, 03:23 PM

Still like to see the script, and your improvements.....

If it is inspiring I can add my

ReggieDurango · 04-06-2011, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

Still like to see the script

I would also like to see the script.

Paul Markham · 04-07-2011, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by aztecboi2003

Please do

I'm in the middle of writing an E Book on "How to Shoot Porn."

It's just my view as all successful pornographers take the basics and adapt to themselves. Like designers, artist and writers. There's many ways to do it. Yet we all need to start out with the basics.

To shoot amateur you have to decide for your shoot, who's the amateur, the model or the shooter or both? Then attack it from that position.

How you do it will be in the E Book.

The idea of the script was to make people think abut what they would like to shoot, like to see in a site or like to promote. I can understand why shooters and site owners won't contribute as it's something they could use in the future.

For affiliates I see it as an opportunity to show sponsors what they would like to see in sites. The future lies in what's inside paysites, for those still in the paysite business, not what's outside. We've gone a long way with what's outside and now in a situation where free isn't only free, it's also better than paid. The only thing paid can offer is higher definition and not even that now, if it's pirated.

Also a lot of scenes are exactly the same, they change the model and the sofa. Then call it exclusive. We need ideas like Bang Bus was 10 years ago, Party Hardcore is still as is Big Sister. Great ideas that IMO could be a real money maker for a few.

Or we keep throwing out the same thing we were throwing out in 1998, just in HD, and sink.

DamianJ · 04-07-2011, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The idea of the script was to make people think abut what they would like to shoot, like to see in a site or like to promote. I can understand why shooters and site owners won't contribute as it's something they could use in the future.

But the idea of the whole thing is for YOU (the genius) to show us (the idiots) how you do it properly?

Or did I misunderstand all your posts saying how awesome you are and how shit everyone else is?

:D LOL

LOL!

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grumpy · 04-07-2011, 01:37 AM

the oldtimers are still doing okay

DamianJ · 04-07-2011, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by grumpy

the oldtimers are still doing taking money from piracy and pretending their wife has left them to get attention

True dat!

ReggieDurango · 04-08-2011, 10:17 PM

bump for updates

Paul Markham · 04-09-2011, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango

bump for updates

There are none.

Next week I will be looking for the right model, location and planning the shoot. Fabian understood that as a person who has been out of the game for 2.5 years it was something we couldn't do right over night.

3 years ago it would of taken me a day to organise and depending on the model's availability little time to shoot and deliver. Today it takes longer and my friend who was going to help me has gone quiet. No worries, we will do it on our own and give you time to get here.

For those screaming for me to post the script. Understand a confidentiality agreement. I signed a contract and I stick to it.

Cherry7 · 04-09-2011, 01:39 AM

Will Fabian post the script please ?

ReggieDurango · 04-10-2011, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7

Will Fabian post the script please ?

Yes, will he?

BVF · 04-10-2011, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

There are none.

Next week I will be looking for the right model, location and planning the shoot. Fabian understood that as a person who has been out of the game for 2.5 years it was something we couldn't do right over night.

3 years ago it would of taken me a day to organise and depending on the model's availability little time to shoot and deliver. Today it takes longer and my friend who was going to help me has gone quiet. No worries, we will do it on our own and give you time to get here.

For those screaming for me to post the script. Understand a confidentiality agreement. I signed a contract and I stick to it.

That sounds reasonable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReggieDurango

Yes, will he?

stop begging....You're like one of those cunts on The View.

ReggieDurango · 04-10-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF

stop begging....You're like one of those cunts on The View.

I'll bet those The View chicks have really nice "c*nts" !!! Much better than the vag's on the crack addicts you shoot

Amputate Your Head · 04-10-2011, 05:29 PM

links pulled.

Paul Markham · 04-10-2011, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF

That sounds reasonable.

Thank you.

Will have some news soon.

JustDaveXxx · 04-11-2011, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Thank you.

Will have some news soon.

WoW!! Long thread. It really brought out the clowns, Trolls and wannabe shooters.

Good luck with your shoot Paul.

ReggieDurango · 04-11-2011, 04:21 PM

Happy 4:20, JustDave!
You never replied to my questions:

Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx
"Its easy to type up a big game from your laptop at home."

I have a desktop. What's the difference?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx
"You my friend has what I like to call an "Alligator mouth, with a Parakeet Ass""

HUH? "Alligator mouth, with a Parakeet Ass"??? - cite specific examples!

Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx
"Porn Valley is a very small place dude."

OK. I have been here longer than you. So what?
Ok maybe I haven't.
Again what's the difference if it's small?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx
"We will see each other soon enough."

OK. Will we fight physically or mentally?

Hopefully not physically, I don't like it.

Robbie · 04-11-2011, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

WoW!! Long thread. It really brought out the clowns, Trolls and wannabe shooters.

And that's just Fabian...

ReggieDurango · 04-12-2011, 07:10 PM

justdave it is weird how u just ignore my questions

JFK · 04-12-2011, 07:18 PM

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