Hey notjoe ... we're most definitely telling the truth, send me an email if youd like for me to give you a call, or lets talk via email. If youve read through the thread, youll see that i am launching an exclusive video site soon, and for that reason i cant donate more than the $1k ive already donated. I have some more $ but i need to be careful considering the costs that will arise with the launch of my site.

Part of the reason i need to keep some cash is because i want to license some videos to supplement my own shot content. So if noone else bites on this offer, then i will. But im gonna go look at your site... i didnt know you licensed dvds ...

This is a great help by the way ... we are damn near close to the 4,500.00 we need to start the first 30 days of treatment, thanks to the generosity of everyone who has helped. I appreciate your taking the time to read through the thread to see its legit :)

Thanks a million,

By the way, anyone who sends a donation here:

http://users.qconline.com/~dramundson/

for 200 or more, please make a post about it, then notjoe can confirm it with mulescrote, and you can get your dvd and license...


:thumbsup

Drop me a line on ICQ and we'll work something out :) I remember when you hooked me up when i bought all of PC's content in one shot and i would be happy to repay the favor ;)

Im cutting in premiere right now, ICQ completely fucks it up ... ive changed my sig to promote this deal, so hopefully someone will bite, but ill still get in touch with you about licensing some dvds ...

I didnt see anything about licensing them there on the site... are you the producer? Do you have a website where licenses can be purchased to dvds?

Thanks again, ill be in touch soon :)

Very Nice AWU :)

Thanks for your continued support ;)

sarah_webinc did you design all those sites on Webinc ?
These are great designs :)

The pills you are talking about is it the breast enlargement ones? I didn't even know that there were such things lol

Here are some receipts from mulescrotes family, youll need adobe acrobat reader, and scroll down to see everything ;)

http://www.sunflowerpussy.com/scan.pdf

Thanks for your support everyone :thumbsup

http://users.qconline.com/~dramundson/

OK Mikey and Mule, first of all my thoughts are with your family right now Mule. Unfortunately my mother in law is going through a major breast cancer fight right now and it's not looking real good. We had to take everything we had to put into her fight against this monster and subsequently we have lost almost all of our tangibles (i.e. house, car, savings) so my money situation is not the best to help you out. However, if there is anything that I can do behind the scenes I will more than gladly help out. I have a couple of TGP's that are getting a respectible number of hits and will put either of these up for use if there is any way to utilize them to help raise some money. I'm kind of having a brain cloud about how to use them at the moment but this whole thread made everything here at home really raw. I know that the spam word sucks but I do have a good email database if there is any way to use it either. I mean spam for a good cause should be allowed. I also have my own server if there is any space needed for anything in connection. So just let me know what I can do.

I hope your uncle is better soon.........

why is MikeySpermberg now banned???

Hi dchottie and Angie :)

dchottie, i hope everything works out for you, and my only advice is to use your available resources to help out your own family right now ...

"Spam for a good cause" ... that is why MikeySpermberg (me) is banned. I was selling domain names (for a friend) on this board and donating my 10% cut to the fundraiser. I neglected to notice that a previous thread had been closed since the moderators considered it to be spam, i opened a new thread to sell more of the domain names (i raised over $950 for the fund) and lensman banned me ... i have no problem with the policy; their board, their rules, but i think under the circumstances an email was warranted as opposed to a banning.

I have proven the legitimacy of this thread, beyond the shadow of a doubt in my opinion ... we have receipts, the doctors phone number is on there, and i have received character references from many webmasters here. Yet still some large players, like the ones who banned me from this board and ignored my emails asking for support, offer no help.

I sent a second email to lensman asking why he would not help with this thread ... his reply was simply "I'm busy"

Thats so lame. who isnt busy? ive been working 16 hours a day for 3 years. When i ran phoenixcontent i answered EVERY email i ever got. I would also venture to guess that THE HUN is a pretty busy guy, but he somehow found the time to reply to my email, rather than to delete it like lensman.

so, maybe they will delete this post and ban me again (my new acct). but if they have any nuts at all, they will unban me (my old acct)

HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!!!!

sorry, I didn't see this question before. No, I don't design them..I am customer support for the great work they do :)

Yes the breast pills sell very well!

Sorry to be Mr. Negativity, but...

I saw the Shaes thing develop. Some of the deals that they were offering seemed "Too good to be true" to me at the time. Sure enough.

I am EXTREMELY skeptical of these alternative treatments.

from Journal of the AMA :
From American Heart Association Q&A about Chelation Therapy :

Be very careful. I wish you luck.


AP article: Nov 2002: Chelation Therapy Found Useless In Rigorous Study
Skeptics Dictionary: Chelation Treatment
Quack Watch: Chelation Therapy

Perhaps of particular interest to readers here...
How Quackery Sells
More Ploys that may fool you

Hey Script Dude, thanks for the wishes of best luck :)

The Shaes being theiving scumbags and chelation being an "alternative" treatment are two different ballfields. i dont see how they fit in to your comments.

I am fully aware of the information about chelation, as is mulescrote and his family; the simple fact as i understand it is, Ron is not able to respond to "conventional" treatment, and that this is the best option.

Will it work? i dont know. but i still sent over 2k so far... i hope it does something for my friends uncle, but if it doesnt, at the very least, i wont sit around wondering IF i could have helped the guy. And at least now he has some hope, where previously he was shopping for gravesites (literally)

Nick!

MuleScrote just informed me of your donation... thank you SO much, that was very generous :thumbsup

Thanks Script Dude...and as far as the validity of alternative medicine, I have done plenty of research on this one. Chelation is Ron's only hope for wellness at this stage in his condition. Near the very beginning of this thread, someone else tossed the quack watch pages into this. I'll quote my response here so I don't have to type it all out again:

On a better note, Ronnie called here yesterday and talked to my wife. He still breaks down in tears when he tries to express his gratitude for all that everyone is doing for him. Two weeks before I turned over a chunk of donations for treatment, he labored to walk from one side of his house to the other. Now he says his vision is clearing up, the tingling in his legs has gone away, and his ears no longer ring 24hs/day. Sounds to me like we are making a difference!!

Nick, thank you for your donation.....

$250 FROM SEXY-BABES.TV

Your generousity is much appreciated....

:thumbsup :thumbsup

looks like spacedog is back

I dont get it...

Guess who just ponied up $500 to help my uncle out...


Ted at prohosters!!! Big thanks to "the tosser", as gfy'ers know him, for showing such support.

Indeed. There were really two different comments in that post.

True. So you look at the sources of the information and their motives. The journal of the American Medical Association and the American Heart Association are fairly credible sources.

The Journal of the American Medical Association article that I linked to would be considered "properly controlled research" and was published in 2002.


From Vulnerability to Quackery:
See Why Bogus Therapies Seem to Work


I have had a bad personal experience with a family member turning to alternative medicine when faced by a serious illness.


I know that I am not going to change your mind or influence you in any way, MuleScrote, and the last thing I want to do is try to take away any hope that you might have.

However, I would like to encourage maintaining a high level of skepticism.


I am curious about how your clinic has addressed the risks of death and kidney failure from this treatment as mentioned in the american heart association article.

keep us posted.

I can try to understand where you are coming from scriptdude, if you had a family member that did not respond to alternative medicine. but in this case, for Ron Klein, this is his ONLY option. If i was dying and conventional medicine could not help me, i would be doing the same thing.

It is not my understanding that the family is being hornswaggled. I have NEVER heard any promises that Ron's chelation therapy is going to miraculously cure him... simply that it is his only chance at living to see his next birthday. I am generally a skeptic in life, but in this case im hoping that everything works out.

I'm new here and I don't know you, but if $20.00 will help I can "snail mail" a check. I've had a slew of my own medical issues but so far I've been lucky enough to have them covered by my health insurance so I know this can't be easy for you. I was walking on eggshells waiting to find out if my most recent surgery was covered or not. (It was).

ICQ me and give me the mailing details please. 246709948 I apologize if the address is somewhere on this thread... If it is--I missed it.

~Angeleyes

Hi AngelEyes :)

Of course $20 helps. a LOT of the (approx) $5,000.00 that has been raised thus far has come from generous donations like yours ... i will look for scrote online tonight and tell him to give you the mailing address...

Scrote, can you also post the current total received, since the original goal was 10k?

Thanks :thumbsup

Not only didn't respond, but was harmed. I would like to tell my story, but it is complicated and would probably take me half a day to type up.

A couple lessons that I learned:

People faced with serious medical conditions (and their family members) aren't always able to make the best decisions regarding their situation.

There are also alot of people out there who will tell you anything you want to hear in exchange for your money.


is it the only option? The Help Ron Klein page only mentioned "his doctor." Have they gotten a second (or third) opinion?


from National Council Against Health Fraud Policy statement on chelation therapy:

I can only afford 25.00, but I sent it today. Best wishes.

Lustbin, thank you mucho!

ScriptDude, i can only wait for mulescrote to reply to your comments. i believe what youre saying, im not trying to argue whether you are right or wrong. Im sorry your loved one was harmed, sincerely. and i know you dont mean this argumentatively rather informatively, and i appreciate that :)

Hi all,
I just spent 30 or so minutes reading and evaluating this thread, some great people have made really generous donations here. (so don't let that be in vain)

Is this thing still going on? If so, I wanna help Uncle Ron.

Gimme the paypal details so I can make a donation, I cried real tears when I read this thread, there's a lotta shite in this world, but this thread made me realise there's also so much good.

All you peeps that donated so far," feel good about yourselves "

What worries me is that Uncle Ron needed 10k, and we're only at 5 or so K.

Don't stop now guys he needs another 5k yet!

Keep bumpin this thread, there's alot of hardened gfy posters that haven't made a donation yet, where are you guys?

What goes round comes round guys, so spread some goodness, and reap the rewards. LOL

Like I said, post the paypal addy and I'll make a donation, maybe a few others will as well. :)

out

Thank you lustbin for your help! I am amazed by the resurgence of support for this thread. I didn't want people to think that this thread was my reason for being at GFY so I let the thread run it's natural course at let it fade when I felt the time was right.

Our original goal to cover expenses was, and still is, $10k. When I add lustbin's donation to the pot, the donation total stands at $5125.

I very much appreciate everyone's continued support!

Thanks for voicing your care and support. There is a Paypal link on the original information page that fully explains the situation.

That page is here: http://users.qconline.com/~dramundson/

As you can see in my post above, we have passed the halfway point in this fund raiser and much of it was with donations of $50 or less. Every donation gets us closer to my ultimate goal.

Thank you!! :thumbsup

Response to script dude:

I do appreciate your skepticism. But as I have made clear in previous posts, Ronnie's personal doctor recommended these treatments stating that bypass surgery was not possible due to the amount of blockage in several arteries. His doctor also stressed that surgery would most likely end his life just like it did his father's a couple years ago.

He didn't order treatments from an infommercial or from a flyer on his windshield. His doctor is in no way tied to the clinic that administers the treatments. He has seen positive results in other patients suffering from similar conditions to Ronnie's.

Please read the information HERE and you will understand the severity of the issue.

Thanks for your input :)