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03-25-2012, 09:59 AM | #1101 |
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03-25-2012, 10:36 AM | #1102 | |
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Light Poll #1 : BULLSHIT
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I don't give a fuck what you do Other than that, I was agreeing with you. It's bullshit, a setup. If it's not than the taxi driver is totally insane... unless you have another explanation for his story other than he's telling the truth ? Sounds like light poll number one was staged to me. Lighten up Francis ...
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not only listening to this guys testimony which would make anyone question the validity of this whole "Lightpole #1" event .... but the physical evidence is fucking impossible to believe. A plane traveling how fast was it ? Now you have the taxi driver headed straight for it at 40mph ... plane hits poll ( 200 pound light pole ) and not a scratch on this guys hood. Yes, if you believe that you need your head examined.
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can we please just concentrate on one bullshit incident at a time please
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I don't know about everything else, not an expert on giving a fuck much but this is absolutely fucking questionable at the very least ........ we're all fucked
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google it fucker, i don't know
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There was thermite in the Pentagon!
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Can you show me where on the Washington Post website this picture is online with a date?
My point is anyone can grab a picture of the Pentagon eight months AFTER and then claim the Washington Post had put this picture online months BEFORE.
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Preppers = $$$$$$$$ If you actually tried to sell to them you would not have made what may be your dumbest post ever on GFY. Quote:
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i am talking about running and selling from a conspiracy site. unless you are one of the top dogs very hard to monetize. and i'm speaking from experience, not your stupid theory of how you think things should be.
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like 95% of people here you don't read what was written but what you want you see. if you did you would have seen i was talking about starting a conspiracy site and monetizing it specifically.
is there also a huge demand for survival shit, especially in 2012? of course, two different things. Quote:
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And gun sales...
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Sure, call me stupid then ask what I'm selling. I actually have survivalist sites, not conspiracy sites. And while there is a difference between a survivalist / prepper and a conspiracy guy, you do get a lot of conspiracy cross over people. It's not really difficult to sell to them. You just have to sound like you know what you're talking about and really offer them good information. That is all they are after, info, so if you have it and they believe it, it's fairly easy to sell to them. If you didn't have success in that market it is probably because you don't believe in what you are trying to sell them and they can see that. As far as what I sell, I do the best with smaller items. Tactical weapons / survival accessories, knives, lots of books, freeze dried meals, small emergency kits, adsense, food storage e-book, and so on. Nothing large like power generators or huge food storage racks. Keep it small, affordable, and practical. |
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I think that yes, people who worked in the WTC (for 20 and 30 years) would know the difference between explosions that occurred beneath them while they were in the basement levels and pushed them up from the ground and explosive events that occurred above their heads...
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Who said it was steel? Was it steel, or a steel alloy? Or was it just metal?
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There was an explosion from when the planes hit, and then multiple explosions from there on out when flaming debris hit other buildings, setting them on fire. Again, you thinking of this as a building. It wasn't "just a building". This was a massive city with hundreds of thousands of gallons of gasoline, back generators, sub stations, subway stations, a shopping mall, a parking garage etc etc etc. Once there was multiple fires at multiple locations, there was explosions everywhere. Quote:
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I don't even understand your point here. Your talking about a huge amount of different metals that was set on fire by jet fuel and burned for weeks. If something didn't melt I would be stunned.
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Regardless of how much office furniture was ignited in the ten minutes jet fuel was present, steel would not be melted. :D
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All evidence points to standard acetyl propylene torches, but that wouldn't cause iron mirospheres to appear in the dust several days and weeks after... This goes against what much testimony the 9/11 Commission disregarded. Quote:
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There's pretty much going to be microscopic everything in the debris.
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A huge plan loaded with Jet Fuel crashed into a building and exploded. Fireballs traveled down (and up?) elevator shafts. Other buildings were hit with burning debris. Once you have fire, it doesn't matter what started it. Once you have fire, fire burns. When you have fifty thosand desks and millions of tons of paperwork, plus a mall, plus 600 cars.... It will burn for weeks.
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And the temperature at which that fire will burn matters very much on what the fuel or material to burn is; nothing in the WTC would have or could have melted metal....
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Why does this escape you? Give fire enough fuel and it will burn forever.
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No matter the fuel, fires don't burn hotter than a certain point. Iron, for example, will not burn beyond or BEFORE it's ignition point - the same for all substance and their ignition points. For steel to have been melted under the ruins for weeks after the collapse, it would have to have been there before and during the collapse. There is no office fire or subway fire or any fire that could have caused that slag to occur, under your official theory of what happened that day. In fact, most of what happened that day couldn't have occurred if you and the government are correct about the events.... :D
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The NIST found that the fireproofing on the Twin Towers' steel infrastructures was blown off by the initial impact of the planes and that, had this not occurred, the towers would likely have remained standing. A study published by researchers of Purdue University confirmed that, if the thermal insulation on the core columns were scoured off and column temperatures were elevated to approximately 700 °C (1,292 °F), the fire would have been sufficient to initiate collapse.
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There was microscopic particles of iron. All this proves was... There was microscopic particles of iron present - nothing else. There are microscopic particles of iron in glass. Case solved. Next.
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Look what just came in the mail....
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[QUOTE=Rochard;18845938]Really? It took me ten seconds to find this on Wikipedia showing me it was clearly well above 500f...
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And small bits of iron doesn't mean the towers was brought down by explosives. At all.
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Jet fuel starts the fire, but its the other materials such as carpet, desks etc, that burn longer and hotter. After a short while the gasses that these materials emit become extremely hot and the Gassess too begin to burn, and burn at extremely hot temperatures. Oxygen sucked in from the broken windows only add to the fire. All the iron beams had to do was melt enough to weaken the structure. As a weak point bends inward, millions of tons of pressure start to push in on it. Say it with me. No. Controlled. Demolition.
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video is of course definitive proof these days heh
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Nutjobs continue to rely on the word "melt" and point to the fact that it was not hot enough to melt steel as if ANYONE said the steel melted. Regardless of the temperature required to melt the steel, its irrelevant to the fact that it was quite hot enough to weaken the steal, allowing it to buckle.
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You mention oxygen getting sucked in from the broken windows. You also need to remember the oxygen getting sucked up to the fires. The WTC towers were closed - air tight. The elevator shafts were air tight when sealed, but they were compromised somewhere along the line. So air was forced up to the fires too.
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Page 27. Any evidence yet for all these claims?
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this isn't MIT ROCKET SCIENCE.
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