Originally Posted by sortie (Post 17363732)

My point is that you and everyone else who thinks you can "prove" something
worth while with these stats are a bunch of fucking idiots wallowing in your
insecurity and thus looking for some measure to uplift yourself and you find it in
a collective race evaluation.

The problem with these types of discussions is that the ignorant are often too
ignorant to understand their own ignorance. Which produces circular arguments
that never end.

The only people who ever post these stats are people who have "issues" with race
or have issues with someone else who has issues with race.

I can't imagine the kind of stupidity that would cause me to go to the library or
surf the net endlessly looking for that one set of statistics that makes White
people look like shit and then running to post it on GFY as if it will achieve some
kind of "racial victory".

Pardon me for not engaging in such meaningless bullshit for my "racial pride".

My pride rest in the fact that I don't need to cling to my racial group
for self assurance and esteem.

I don't "feel out of place" just because I'm the only negro in the room.
I feel just fine, because I have the ability to make my ass fit in the room and
don't need 10 bro's behind me to lean on for support.

If I picked one thing that I am most sick off it would be people who need to
"prop themselves up" with their race.

If all you have "going for you" is your race, then you don't really have shit at all.

Pffffffffff!

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17363752)

I changed my mind, I like you. I do want to point out that I am quick to pull up these statistics when this argument arises because I am a fan of facts. It irritates me to no end when people get pissed off by facts. A higher percentage of black people are on welfare, so fucking what? It's just a simple, verifiable fact. Nothing more. I am aware that racists use these facts to justify their stupidity, I just don't care.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17363683)

Doesn't spending money at the bar also help the economy? Why do you care what they spend it on? As long as they are spending it in the US, what difference does it make to you if they're eating Top Ramen or drinking beer with it? Get off your high horse and stop trying to micromanage the lives of people you have no control over anyway.

Originally Posted by american pervert (Post 17363861)

its annoying when you see people with master's degrees sitting around doing jack shit all day and not trying to get a job. and i won't get off my high horse on this one b/c even when I was eligible for unemployment i still didn't take it.

but yeah, you're right, they are helping the economy 1 drink at a time

Originally Posted by american pervert (Post 17363861)

its annoying when you see people with master's degrees sitting around doing jack shit all day and not trying to get a job. and i won't get off my high horse on this one b/c even when I was eligible for unemployment i still didn't take it.

but yeah, you're right, they are helping the economy 1 drink at a time

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17363600)

I agree. FUCK poor people. They are just lazy right? I mean, fucking drug taking layabouts getting high OFF MY FUCKING TAX MONEY!

GAS THEM ALL. AND THEN SHOOT THEM. AND RAPE THEIR CATS.

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17363878)

Not at all. There is always going to be poor people and there is always going to be rich people, and people in the middle.

Not all poor people are lazy, some are hard blue collar workers, some are not that smart or have mental problems or handicap, some are drug users and can't hold a job down, some are lazy. There are all different types of poor people.

The problem I have is the poor people who are non skilled and make min wage or don't work at all, but yet they want to have a bunch of kids they can not afford.

I am all for throwing out the support needed to help poor people make their way up to middle class or even succeed beyond that. Provide them with the education, tools, and jobs and drug programs. Make them earn every penny they get from the govt. However, some people will never succeed no matter how much you try to help them. those people need to be cut off from govt tax dollars.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17363501)

I suppose some are. But trying to drug test people on assistance is like trying to put winos into AA. It ain't gonna ever work.

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17363867)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Oh dear fucking God. Are you claiming that people would rather get a pittance of a check from welfare than work? People are sitting around because there aren't enough fucking jobs out there, I don't really care what they do with their money after it's theirs.

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17363907)

easy... before you go to pick up your check you have to have current drug test on file. If you don't you don't get paid until you piss in the cup. If that bothers you then hey go get a fucking job and don't take the govt's money.

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17363907)

easy... before you go to pick up your check you have to have current drug test on file. If you don't you don't get paid until you piss in the cup. If that bothers you then hey go get a fucking job and don't take the govt's money.

Originally Posted by american pervert (Post 17363929)

there are jobs out there if you aren't holding out for another $80k a year job. some people think they are too good to do an honest day of hard work.

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17363463)

This is probably best for another topic but aren't there religions that insist you "reproduce and multiply" no matter what? That you don't use any forms of birth control, etc...

Originally Posted by Smokieflame (Post 17362307)

Well hate to say it but the way you worded it was very easily construed as meaning 61% of that 75% gets welfare, especially with your comment after you put out the numbers... So you can see my confusion

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17363948)

So they are having the kids for religious reasons? M daughter workers for DCFS, I will have to ask her how many people have told her that.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17363901)

I agree and disagree at the same time.

You're right, there are all kinds of poor people, just like any other group of people. And yes, some are unskilled and have no experience at anything.... but no one is providing them with "tools", education or jobs and no one is ever going to. And those are the ones you want to cut off? People with college degrees can't get jobs right now... how do you expect an uneducated, inexperienced poor person to get one?

Oh right... after we round up all the Mexicans in Arizona there will be plenty of mindless minimum wage hard-labor jobs available for them. I'm sure the poor will jump all over that opportunity.

How many poor people have you hired this year?

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17363991)

why do i argue with people on here about politics. such a fucking waste of time. I'm out.

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17363943)

Do you actually look into any of the subjects that piss you off because you are dead ass fucking wrong. There is a huge deficit on ALL jobs right now, people around here would be happy with $8 - $10 an hour but there aren't enough companies hiring. This is fucking ridiculous.

:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by american pervert (Post 17364067)

i was at the mcdonalds drive thru, they are hiring.

but that doesn't count, does it

oh, and all the job postings on craigslist and monster, they are all bs too right?

i just got my brother a programming job so he could quit the last job he had so there is an opening there too.

people who stay on the dole see no motivation to get off. get a fucking hustle, plan and simple, sell shit on ebay, take a crappy job, do something besides get a handout. and while you are on welfare DON'T HAVE ANY MORE FUCKING KIDS

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17364211)

Seriously, you are a fucking idiot.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/183122/UNEMPLOYMENT-CHART.jpg

Just get a job you fucking idiots! :1orglaugh

I love the retarded logic that allows someone to say "There are job openings on Craigslist so that proves jobs are available!"

Bullshit, it's stupid and anyone with a brain knows it.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17363948)

So they are having the kids for religious reasons? M daughter workers for DCFS, I will have to ask her how many people have told her that.

Originally Posted by american pervert (Post 17364346)

this graph says there are 3,206,000 job openings

still seems like decent odds of getting work.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17364009)

It's a fair question. You are the one that thinks the poor should straighten up, get educated, get a job, take government drug tests.... so how many have you hired or helped educate?

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17364589)

it wasn't your response in particular just a realization that this is a huge waste of time. I'd rather take a break and go do laundry, watch tv anything than argue with people about politics on GFY. not only a waste of time but just makes me feel more and more hopeless as a country to see the way some of you think.

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17363953)

You have a daughter? I would have much preferred if the government had banned you from having kids because you contribute to the delinquency of America.

See how God damned fucking retarded that is?

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17364626)

If by "that' you meant your analogy, yes.

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17364720)

bitching about people on welfare is an old white trash tradition. good to see it continues on.

Originally Posted by BittieBucks (Post 17362178)

Damn them white honkeys !

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17364710)

Same line of reasoning you use. Poor people on welfare are a burden on society in your opinion. In mine, so are you. Neither of you should be able to reproduce. :321GFY

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17364595)

Sadly, I agree with you 100% on this. I feel the same way. :disgust

Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans (Post 17365418)

Hey, you don't sound like some rich guy that owned a 2 million dollar house in Maui....or was that all a big farce? :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17364901)

The only thing wrong is that it is not my opinion, it is a fact. Yours is an opinion.

Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans (Post 17365418)

Hey, you don't sound like some rich guy that owned a 2 million dollar house in Maui....or was that all a big farce? :1orglaugh