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50 ways of looking at things...

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always suspected those fucking white people were up to no good. thanks for the link.

No that is why we need to abolish the welfare system and let the private sector handle it.

I know.. I should get my gov't welfare and knock up some bitch and make sure she is taking fertility drugs so we can have like 8 babies at 1 time

Say what? Saying that breeding is not a right is saying that we only have the right to procreation if we are provided this right by some higher authority. So, who is this higher authority? I presume the government, yes? So you want to solve the problem of too much welfare (too much government), by giving the government control of our reproductive organs (WAY too much government). You are insane.

im saying you shouldn't be abusing your ability to have kids. and when you become a ward of the state you should loose certain rights.

I have the right to go out to the bar, get wicked pissed and call everyone a bunch of racist slurs, doesn't mean I'm going to even though I'm allowed to.

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and send grandma to the glue factory :1orglaugh

We need a white history month.

If you think you actually have a "right" to do that then I guess you don't believe in
harassment laws, trespassing laws(they will tell you to leave), disorderly conduct laws,
public nuisance laws, hate crime laws and inciting to riot laws(because it will look like a riot as you get the shit beat out of you) :1orglaugh

Hey, why don't you prove to us that you have this right by going to a mixed race
bar and doing just that. Record it on your cellphone and post it.

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Truth is that you don't really want that because the KKK would be a major part of it.

:2 cents:

We already have one.... it's
January
February
March
April
May
June
July
August
September
October
November
and
December


It's called a history book.

Always going to be someone doing the dishes or waiting tables. Who else is going to do those jobs. Every civilized society needs a lower class. race has nothing to do with it.

While there may be some merit to this, I think it would be a catastrophic failure. I once dated a girl who worked for a non-profit organization that worked with battered and abused women. They were always broke and always needing money and when economic times get tough, people donate even less. There was not a month that went by that they weren't scrambling just to get the money to keep the place running. This wasn't just them, it was just about any non-profit I talked to during that time (they worked with a lot of local groups). Money is always very difficult to get.

In theory if there were no welfare system we would have lower taxes so people would have more money, but that doesn't mean that more money would be donated. I think most people see welfare as something that just lazy people who are unwilling to work get, when in fact it covers a wide range of things that help elderly, disabled and generally sick people. I know there are scammers on the system and I know there are lazy people on the system who just don't want to work and just want to lay around all day. I am all for changing the system so that those people are denied or weeded out. But I think if you take it out of the governments hands and put it into private sector charity hands you will see a lot of people who are legitimately in need end up going without because raising the money to keep these large programs going is going to be nearly impossible.

Just my 2 cents.

That is not what he said. But tell me why I should support your family if you are only increasing its size and not doing anything about supporting yourself.

No, you don't.

WTF?

They are counting social security as a welfare program for one.

Also, how many white people are there in this country? 70% how many blacks? 15% (guessing but it should be pretty close) When you count social security and there are 4x more white people than blacks is there any surprise that white people COLLECTIVELY use it more than blacks?

Loved the hate whitey undertones in that article. curious who wrote it.

only according to the NAACP

But then again, I'm against any club or organization that promotes one race over another, or any college that does that same, I don't care if it's the KKK, NAACP, La Raza, or any other organization based on race. To me there is no difference between them

Really, then why do you have BET? Miss Black America, Black Allstar game, etc etc etc etc ?

Abso-fucking-lutly I think people should be responsible. If they drop out of high school and work min wage they shouldn't have 3 kids muchless 10. It is called being irresponsible. If they want to pay for all 10 themselves without my tax money then fine, go far it but that is not possible. I could give fuck all about the race, black white yellow don't care. If you can't afford to have kids then don't have them. I have (white-trash) family that has had a bunch of kids that can't afford them.

That is the #1 problem with this country. People get rewarded for their irresponsible behavior. that plus all of the hand outs. NOthing should be given out for free, everything should be earned. Instead of getting "xxx" more a month for each kid you have you should be required to work an extra 10 hours a week for each kid if you want govt money. I bet they would be wearing condoms then if they were punished instead of rewarded for being irresponsible.

Irresponsibility, being rewarded just breeds more irresponsibility x10, a couple more generations and we are going to be a country of idiots looking for a hand out.

[QUOTE=will76;17362814]Really, then why do you have BET? Miss Black America, Black Allstar game, etc etc etc etc ?


I think they meant American's are racist. Every race is racist, hell Korean's are the worst these days. But every race in america is racist until everyone is mocha brown it will be that way (america is about 100 years from everyone being mocha brown LOL)

I agree, fuck free money. People who get benefits should be made to work community service jobs just like if you get into trouble. Or they must go to school either for GED or for vocational skills.

Neither a black or white history month are needed. Why relegate either to just one month. They should all be a part of history year round.

Yep. America is a great country because of the couple generations before us. People worked for everything they had. If they couldn't afford it then they did with out it. People earned it.

Some time around the 60/70s we started giving out more and more for "free". Its a couple generations since then and it's been on an exponential growth rate which will be hitting a critical mass in the next 35-50 years if something drastic doesn't change.

Look around, the people who can't afford kids are having them like rabbits and the people who are more educated, not on govt programs are having at most 1 or 2 kids on average, if any.

The family in poverty that has 5 kids and neglects them, gets free money and blames the govt instead of themselves TEACHES those 5 kids to go out and do the same and in 20 years they each have 5 kids they are teaching to do the same.

If the US govt doesn't hold people responsible no one will. We need to stop rewarding people for THEIR bad decisions. I am all for providing them the tools to change it around. I would be fine with paying them to go learn a skill vs paying them to sit on their ass and do nothing. People need to earn every penny they get or they will never have a sense of worth or ownership.

I so agree. I dont mind my taxes paying for someone to get out of a tough spot, but put a limit on it. There are families that have never had a job, diploma or anything for 2-3 generations, all they do is live in the ghetto in small apartments popin out babies every year for more money. It is a scurge!

Scary to think people think its a problem that people sucking the system dry actually be accountable for their actions.

If you're on welfare that means you're unemployed. If you're unemployed, you shouldn't be doing drugs. If you test positve for drugs you should lose your public assistance.

Sure, take away their assistance. Then they'll be robbing your house and stealing your car instead. :thumbsup

orly :1orglaugh

Not me, I have two 130lb German shepherds. How about we put them to death instead? i'd vote for that.

Actually it is scary to think people dont think they are sucking it dry. People all over america use public assistance and do drugs and never try to get a job. This is a fact! This is why we are all saying they need to atleast add stipulations on how long they have it, what they do while they have it... Again I go back to what I said earlier today, you support you children so you tell them what to do correct? If we as tax payers support these people for what ever reason they are using the system them we should tell them what to do, not to violate there rights, not to be dictators, but to help them get on there own 2 feet and understand what it means to earn for your own family. Fact is alot of the people on public assistance have no idea where to start to get on there feet b/c what is offered is a joke in all states, and most are un-educated due to where they grew up. Alot of schools are so bad it is impossible for them to get any type of real education. So we should show them how to become educated and responsible.

Actually, you know what? You sound like some broke dick nigga. What the fuck is the problem drug testing people that government assistance? Shouldnt these people be actively seeking jobs? Who the fuck is looking for a job if they are high??

Right it is a two part deal. If we help them help themselves they will have a better life and break the chain. Tough love bitches. Sink or swim. If we do that we help ourselves because our country is stronger and safer. Everyone wins, but when us tax payers want to get tough, we just labeled as racist. The democratic party is the biggest problem of all because they pander to these people for votes.

They do that now even on govt programs. Because they are junkies and have $100 a day habbits.

Let them go rob and steal, they will either get shot and be killed or caught and end up in jail. We need a generation of cleansing, we need to give everyone two things:

the tools and help to succeed and
the rope to hang themselves.

It needs to be one or the other. We can't keep giving people hand outs with no accountability or responsibility. If we don't fix this problem that people stealing from you today will father 10 kids and in 15 years these will be 15 more people stealing from you.

data is extremely relevant and only an ignorant thinks otherwise. Political correctness shouldn't overcloud knowledge and common sense...

I do have a right to say it, and sure, there might be some consequences, but calling people racist names isn't a hate crime. maybe trespassing if you don't leave when they ask, but hey, I don't need to prove it and you're not a lawyer or a LEO.

but you are right, you have 100% right to pump out a kid that will be born into poverty and squalor and never have a fighting chance since "THE MAN" is keeping his family down. hell, who cares about what future the kid might have as long as the parent has the right to reproduce. they want to have another kid they can't afford on their own and you better believe they are gonna have it and its not anyone's business they are on public assistance!!! (great mentality)

hell, you need more gov't oversight to have a dog than a kid.

This is probably best for another topic but aren't there religions that insist you "reproduce and multiply" no matter what? That you don't use any forms of birth control, etc...

And they arent now?

I suppose some are. But trying to drug test people on assistance is like trying to put winos into AA. It ain't gonna ever work.

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Even if the mixed people WERE labeled as black, that would just mean blacks are more like 10% of the pop instead of 12%.. what is your big point?

I agree with you there.

I agree. FUCK poor people. They are just lazy right? I mean, fucking drug taking layabouts getting high OFF MY FUCKING TAX MONEY!

GAS THEM ALL. AND THEN SHOOT THEM. AND RAPE THEIR CATS.

and many of those also say "no sex outside marriage" which is funny when single mom's claim to keep the baby due to religious mores but seem to of forgotten that one...

This is why I hate conversations on this topic, it always comes down to 'fuck those lazy bastards' when most of the people on welfare are actually trying. There are no jobs right now, this shit is not going to get better and meanwhile people need to fucking eat.

As mentioned above, there are many more that DON'T do the shit you suggest.

Only if white rap was more popular...

Thank you. This conversation always goes this direction and it's fucking pathetic. Both sides agree on 'fuck the poor people' for some reason or another.

and some are lazy bastards that do sit around and get checks and spend it at the bar.. I know one personally.

Doesn't spending money at the bar also help the economy? Why do you care what they spend it on? As long as they are spending it in the US, what difference does it make to you if they're eating Top Ramen or drinking beer with it? Get off your high horse and stop trying to micromanage the lives of people you have no control over anyway.

So fucking what? What do you propose, a tracking device? Some people are going to abuse anything out there, it does not mean that it shouldn't exist or that you should try to impose ridiculous rules on everyone. No kids? What a fucking joke. Why don't we just kill them while we're at it?

Poor people are often treated like the enemy but they are vital to our economy. Hilariously enough, ultra rich people are not. What is is now, 1.4 trillion dollars controlled by the richest 400 families?

Yes, it is basic economics: If you subsidize something you get more of it.

My point is that you and everyone else who thinks you can "prove" something
worth while with these stats are a bunch of fucking idiots wallowing in your
insecurity and thus looking for some measure to uplift yourself and you find it in
a collective race evaluation.

The problem with these types of discussions is that the ignorant are often too
ignorant to understand their own ignorance. Which produces circular arguments
that never end.

The only people who ever post these stats are people who have "issues" with race
or have issues with someone else who has issues with race.

I can't imagine the kind of stupidity that would cause me to go to the library or
surf the net endlessly looking for that one set of statistics that makes White
people look like shit and then running to post it on GFY as if it will achieve some
kind of "racial victory".

Pardon me for not engaging in such meaningless bullshit for my "racial pride".

My pride rest in the fact that I don't need to cling to my racial group
for self assurance and esteem.

I don't "feel out of place" just because I'm the only negro in the room.
I feel just fine, because I have the ability to make my ass fit in the room and
don't need 10 bro's behind me to lean on for support.

If I picked one thing that I am most sick off it would be people who need to
"prop themselves up" with their race.

If all you have "going for you" is your race, then you don't really have shit at all.

Pffffffffff!