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Emma · 06-01-2010, 01:35 AM

Jesus Christ was killed by the Jews. they are suckers!

theking · 06-01-2010, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by roly

the UK has 10,000 troops in afghanistan and has had troops their since the start of the war. that's hardly minimal considering we had quite a few troops in iraq also.

Are you sure that the UK has that many there now...and isn't the UK preparing to withdraw their forces?

DOX · 06-01-2010, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I never read that the UN inspected the ship.

No, Israel did not break the law. According to United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, foreign civilian vessels can be boarded on the high seas for a number of different reasons. For example, if they thought the cargo of the ship was illegal and wanted to inspect it. Fuck it, they can board a god damn ship off the coast of their country for a fucking safety inspection - The US Coast Guard does it all the time.

Let me break this down into small items.
1) Blockade is legal.
2) Ships legally told not to run blockade before it left port.
3) Ships ordered to turn around off the coast of Israel.
4) Israel exercises it's legal right under international law to board ship off it's coast.
5) During boarding, Israeli boarding party is attacked.
6) Under international law, off the coast of Israel, Israeli navy defends itself.

Rochard, their knowledge based on commercials, TV, conspiracy theories, UN bordello, International laws, International community and other shit created for them

The world of strategies focused on gaining Power, the big game, Realpolitik - the first rule of politics for politicians. It's immoral ;)

(The term by Ludwig von Rochau, 19th century, Germany)

Consider just Power, not your pure ideals, morals, principles. Weak should die. Animal world.

Nowdays turks kill Kurds, by bombing their villages... and who cares? Fuck it, It's not on TV! News corporations see no commercial interest going to Kurdistan...

Now, same time, Turkey supports flotilia "free Gaza" (with a thousand man for TV, no food), and becomes biggest regional Player! (what about Kurdistan, Armenians etc?)

Send them to free Darfur they won't go

No TV, no Romantics, no Power

Rochard, u discuss with these pure/average idiots (stupid naive majority) full of hate created by commercial media. It's not your league

Your knowledge is much richer, based on facts.

With all its sadness, I see it Positive. Some smart men who see the reality convert it into personal profits ;) More idiots with lack of worldly wisdom we have, better for us ;)

Manipulate them, give them what they want, that shit to eat and they will pay you!

femdomdestiny · 06-01-2010, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Great read: But sadly it's "theory". Americans don't have any interest in the Republic of Kosovo and why as of 2007 there was only 1500 US troops there. IMO there is no US hidden agenda to stop any political ideology as referenced (El Salvador) in your link. Kosovo has ZERO natural resources and holds ZERO strategic value to the US. Meaning, the train has left the station long ago as far as the US gov is concerned.

Deaths:

Would it matter if it was 500-2,000-20,000-200,000? It could have only been a 100 dead but the international media spun images of dead babushkas with their brains splattered next to their grocery bags in outdoor markets by urban snipers. Get the point?

Kosovo does indeed have a lot of coal. They aren?t huge deposits by world standards, but they?re pretty big ? the biggest in the region, fifth or sixth biggest in Europe. Beside that Kosovo is biggest drug smuggling center in Europe (become after US help) and place where real infrastructure exist for years together with cheap workers. It is really strange that with only several (but important) things that I've showed you think US is motivated by moral. US armed Kosovo muslims and used them as cannon fooder for their goals. There is major military base in Balkans and with taking out Kosovo from serbia all facotires there and infrastructure is simple taken from other people (others time and investement and before start to believe to what you see on CNN; take a look how much money is invested in Kosovo in previous 40 years, and that money was from Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia... just to try to make those people civilized and to force them work honestyl and educate). US have interest or it wouldn't be there. If it is moral motivation, US would help palestinians, or dozen fucked up countries worldwide that really needed help).... I've promised that I won't write more about and this is Israel based subject, but just take a a look into statistics about level of crime,smuggling (people, and drugs) where are they now and why US didn't help them? You can use any source, or save your time and take a look here: http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/apr1999/kla-a10.shtml . Also, just to figure out what us is helping and what is military job there, google for : " Yellow House" or read about organ harvesting here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_theft_in_Kosovo

Since I've already been i situations like this with other people, next stage is denial of resource credibility. let me save your time and you can easily see who wrote a book about Yellow House and organ harvesting (take a note when organ harvesting happened). it was written by chief prossecuttor against Milosevic , Carla Del Ponte - of course in years after everything was finished. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documen...el_ponte.shtml

roly · 06-01-2010, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

That's like saying "war is illegal".

It's not "collective punishment". They aren't trying to punish anyone. What they are trying to do is restrict the flow of weapons going into this area.

if its not collective punishment, why do they limit the amount of humanitarian aid that is allowed in? or ban luxury goods, raw materials, tin cans, fresh meat, exports etc? what's that got to do with the "flow of weapons"?

roly · 06-01-2010, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

Are you sure that the UK has that many there now...and isn't the UK preparing to withdraw their forces?

positive, it has 9,500 normal troops and 500 special forces, here's a breakdown as of december 2009, britain and the US have both increased numbers since then: and remember that the british troops have been on the front line taking heavy casualties in helmand province for a long time, not taking a backseat support role.

United States 34,800

Britain 9,000

Germany 4,365

France 3,095

Canada 2,830

Italy 2,795

Netherlands 2,160

Poland 1,910

Australia 1,350

Spain 1,000

Romania 990

Turkey 720

Denmark 700

Czech Republic 690

Belgium 530

Norway 480

Bulgaria 460

Bosnia 460

Sweden 430

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TOTAL 68,765

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSGEE5B02DL

roly · 06-01-2010, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I'm confused. Didn't they have elections, and didn't they vote an terrorist group into power which is now more or less their government? If they have their own free standing government, it's their government who needs to ensure your citizens have enough to eat. Then again, if your government is really a band of terrorists who does nothing but piss of their neighbors - including Egypt - well then, it's up to the government of Gaza to fucking take care of it's people. Which they can't seem to do.

I'm sure the people of Palestine, don't see them as terrorists, more like democratically elected freedom fighters. just like the people of Israel don't see the Israeli army as terrorists, but innocent Palestinian women and children are killed on a regular basis by them. in the situation in that part of the world there's not much difference between the two sides actions, and the word terrorist is thrown around depending on what side of the fence you sit, not because one side is and the other is an innocent party.

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Originally Posted by Rochard

If they have their own free standing government, it's their government who needs to ensure your citizens have enough to eat. Then again, if your government is really a band of terrorists who does nothing but piss of their neighbors - including Egypt - well then, it's up to the government of Gaza to fucking take care of it's people. Which they can't seem to do.

how exactly are they meant to feed the people when all raw materials such as margarine needed for baking etc are banned by Israel?

Matyko · 06-01-2010, 04:51 AM

DreamGirls · 06-01-2010, 05:09 AM

On CNN.com today...

Israeli military gives version of flotilla incident:

Three Israeli choppers with 15 soldiers aboard and several commando boats were involved in a skirmish with activists on a flotilla seeking to defy an Israeli blockade and deliver aid to Gaza, a senior military official said Monday on condition of anonymity.

Nine people were killed in the resulting violence early Monday as Israeli troops attempted to stop the flotilla.

An Israeli commando said upon descending into a boat with ropes, he was immediately attacked by a group of people.

"They beat us up with metal sticks and knives," he said. "There was live fire at some point against us... They were shooting at us from below deck."

Some of the soldiers were tossed from the top deck to a lower deck by the activists, and jumped in the water to save themselves, he said.
Video: 'It's outrageous'

Activists grabbed soldiers and tried to hold them hostage, stripping them of their helmets and equipment, he said. About 30 activists, all speaking Arabic, carried out the attack, he said.

Activists have said the Israeli soldiers opened fire on unarmed civilians. Neither account could be independently verified by CNN.

_Richard_ · 06-01-2010, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DreamGirls

On CNN.com today...

Israeli military gives version of flotilla incident:

Three Israeli choppers with 15 soldiers aboard and several commando boats were involved in a skirmish with activists on a flotilla seeking to defy an Israeli blockade and deliver aid to Gaza, a senior military official said Monday on condition of anonymity.

Nine people were killed in the resulting violence early Monday as Israeli troops attempted to stop the flotilla.

An Israeli commando said upon descending into a boat with ropes, he was immediately attacked by a group of people.

"They beat us up with metal sticks and knives," he said. "There was live fire at some point against us... They were shooting at us from below deck."

Some of the soldiers were tossed from the top deck to a lower deck by the activists, and jumped in the water to save themselves, he said.
Video: 'It's outrageous'

Activists grabbed soldiers and tried to hold them hostage, stripping them of their helmets and equipment, he said. About 30 activists, all speaking Arabic, carried out the attack, he said.

Activists have said the Israeli soldiers opened fire on unarmed civilians. Neither account could be independently verified by CNN.

i'm confused, who knows what they were speaking, if nothing could be verified?

Rochard · 06-01-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

International law is not stop when I tell you to stop, it is if you are in someone elses waters and you defy them then they can stop you - not kill you.

Yes they could have boarded the ship, arrested everyone on board with non-lethal force.

Why not man?

International law says that when your off the coast of a country, that country has the right to stop you and inspect you and your cargo. If you don't stop, international law says they have the right to physically fucking stop you. When I say "physically fucking stop you" I mean sinking the ship.

I was thinking about this early this morning when I was taking my morning dump. This is like five police officers coming to my front door because they have a legal search warrant and I send out twenty guys armed with pipes to beat them.

roly · 06-01-2010, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

The UK sent a total of 10k. NOT all at once but in rotation. So yes, compared to American standards it's minimal.

not sure what you mean not all at once, the UK has 10k troops on the ground there NOW, they're obviously rotated but the ones that leave are replaced.

and the UK obviously can't commit as many men as the US considering your military has 7.5x as many men compared to the UK, but up until December the US only had 3x as many troops in Afghanistan as the UK. the British has also lost nearly 300 soldiers in action out there so for you to say there contribution is minimal is ignorant.

Rochard · 06-01-2010, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mayabong

Honestly nothing you can say will change my mind. Especially this kind of stuff.

What do you expect when you bulldoze their houses, kill their relatives, put them into refugee camps. Only the jews can twist this around and call the people who try to fight back terrorists. Not all jews, cause some are actually against the existence of israel.

In this thread alone I've been accused of siding with the Israelis for "whatever reason". The truth is more like I don't condone a lot of their actions. I understand this a difficult situation for them, but clearly the Israeli interests is in taking over more territory, as much as they can, even if it's very slowly. I honestly believe that Gaza will eventually be over run by the Israelis - They'll do something really stupid and Israel will say "We were attacked again, blah blah blah, and we are done with this" and they'll take it over and be done with it.

These areas will all over run by the Israelis, and wrongfully so. They need to stop building now.

But the only country able to stop them is the one country that has no interest in doing so.

Rochard · 06-01-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

Right, because Israel and their allies aren't the ones responsible for the vast, vast, vast majority of the violence that goes on around the world.

If Arabs put down their weapons then the US would come in and invade, take their land and their oil leaving their country in shambles. It's happened. Don't be silly.

Wake up and get your head out of your ass dude.

Yeah, the United States is the root of all fucking evil.

Japan - Clearly we attacked Japan first.
Germany - Seems to me we were trying to stay out of that.
Korea - Didn't North invade South and we attempted to defend them?
Vietnam? - Clearly the US started that long before the French got their asses kicked there.
Afghanistan - Obviously the United States encouraged Russia to invade so we can defend them.
Iraq - The United States secretly invaded Kuwait and makde it look like the Iraqis did it.
Afghanistan revisited - After helping them defeat the Russians, they killed three thousand innocent Americans on one day.

Seems to me the US reacts, not starts shit.

Roby · 06-01-2010, 09:32 AM

sad new !

Cyber Fucker · 06-01-2010, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Matyko

now that's funny

RP Fade · 06-01-2010, 10:14 AM

As someone from that region I can tell you that most Israelis and Palestinians want a long lasting peace. But, Palestinians have their political representation by a terrorist group like Hammas (and before that it was Arafat) who doe not have their citizen's best interest at heart and Israeli's government keeps expanding their territory, violating multiple UN and humanitarian laws under the pretext of 'national security'. And those who suffer and are caught in the middle are the citizens of both respective countries. Whenever a moderate from anywhere has come into the picture wanting some kind of reform or even a vision of peace (Sadat, Rabin, etc), they were assassinated.

theking · 06-01-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RP Fade

As someone from that region I can tell you that most Israelis and Palestinians want a long lasting peace. But, Palestinians have their political representation by a terrorist group like Hammas (and before that it was Arafat) who doe not have their citizen's best interest at heart and Israeli's government keeps expanding their territory, violating multiple UN and humanitarian laws under the pretext of 'national security'. And those who suffer and are caught in the middle are the citizens of both respective countries. Whenever a moderate from anywhere has come into the picture wanting some kind of reform or even a vision of peace (Sadat, Rabin, etc), they were assassinated.

Isn't Hamas just in control of Gaza? Who controls the West Bank?

Agent 488 · 06-01-2010, 10:21 AM

gimme a break israel is a terrorist state. only those who live there and those brainwashed by the western media think different.

RP Fade · 06-01-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

Isn't Hamas just in control of Gaza? Who controls the West Bank?

I believe it's the Palestinian Nat'l Authority, who really have no authority whatsoever lol..

onwebcam · 06-01-2010, 10:34 AM

Fleet of Turkish frigits enroute to the Mediterranean. Apparently 3 German members of parliament were on board and are unaccounted for. Egypt re-opens it's aid route. 2-3 more aid ships within a day away and Israel says they will be MORE agressive with the next. Obama off to Turkey to mend fences for his owners.

Fletch XXX · 06-01-2010, 10:38 AM

they will always say "they were armed" even when its with a bullhorn - nothing can be verfiied except the deaths, how convenient.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/...ath/index.html

mayabong · 06-01-2010, 10:46 AM

The will plant weapons on these boats to justify their actions.

theking · 06-01-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mayabong

The will plant weapons on these boats to justify their actions.

They have already justified their actions...and have been doing so for the years that the blockade has been in place.

roly · 06-01-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Give me a break. It's ignorant to think England would actually mobilize and full army no matter how many trains station were blown up. You would not even send troops if we Americans didn't go first. ..... that's a minimal effort.

first you say britain sent minimal troops there, i point out they sent 10k, you dispute the figure and then when i confirm it you still say its minimal. up until december we had 30+% of the troops that you did there, coupled with attack aircraft etc.

considering you have a population of 5x that of the UK and armed forces 7-8 times the size, that's a significant not minimal input, especially considering where they're fighting in helmand province.

_Richard_ · 06-01-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

Fleet of Turkish frigits enroute to the Mediterranean. Apparently 3 German members of parliament were on board and are unaccounted for. Egypt re-opens it's aid route. 2-3 more aid ships within a day away and Israel says they will be MORE agressive with the next. Obama off to Turkey to mend fences for his owners.

that is bad

theking · 06-01-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mayabong

The will plant weapons on these boats to justify their actions.

It was just this moment reported that Western reporters have inspected the cargo of the six ships and stated that it indeed was humanitarian aid on the ships. No weapons of war.

cykoe6 · 06-01-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mayabong

The will plant weapons on these boats to justify their actions.

That is right Maya. "They" are capable of any evil action while the poor oppressed Muslims are always the victim. "They" control and manipulate everything that happens in the world for their own nefarious aims while the rest of humanity plods along helpless and confused. "They" are diabolically clever and unfathomably evil while everyone else are basically decent hard working people who have been duped by "them". All the evil in the world is perpetrated by one group of Jews (sorry Zionists) while the rest of the world's people are just innocent victims. From the Romans to the Huns to Genghis Khan to the Teutonic Knights to Vlad the Impaler to Ivan the Terrible to Napoleon to Hitler to Stalin to Mao to Pol Pot........... all just a result of the evil schemes of the nefarious Jews (I mean Zionists).

Remember the rule of the debate people....... all acts that appear to be acts of aggression by Muslims against Israel or anyone else are actually Israeli "false flag" operations. All evidence which can be used to demonize or delegitimize Israel or the Jews is accepted unquestionably. Any evidence which might provide a defense for the actions of Israel or the Jews is immediately dismissed as propaganda.

..... and of course the most important rule is that no one had better dare accuse people who think this way of hating Jews...... they are just fair minded human right activists who are doing everything they can to oppose the evil and nefarious schemes of the Jew menace as accurately portrayed in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion........ just like those poor misunderstood Germans.

_Richard_ · 06-01-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

Fleet of Turkish frigits enroute to the Mediterranean. Apparently 3 German members of parliament were on board and are unaccounted for. Egypt re-opens it's aid route. 2-3 more aid ships within a day away and Israel says they will be MORE agressive with the next. Obama off to Turkey to mend fences for his owners.

do you have a link?

theking · 06-01-2010, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6

That is right Maya. "They" are capable of any evil action while the poor oppressed Muslims are always the victim. "They" control and manipulate everything that happens in the world for their own nefarious aims while the rest of humanity plods along helpless and confused. "They" are diabolically clever and unfathomably evil while everyone else are basically decent hard working people who have been duped by "them". All the evil in the world is perpetrated by one group of Jews (sorry Zionists) while the rest of the world's people are just innocent victims. From the Romans to the Huns to Genghis Khan to the Teutonic Knights to Vlad the Impaler to Ivan the Terrible to Napoleon to Hitler to Stalin to Mao to Pol Pot........... all just a result of the evil schemes of the nefarious Jews (I mean Zionists).

Remember the rule of the debate people....... all acts that appear to be acts of aggression by Muslims against Israel or anyone else are actually Israeli "false flag" operations. All evidence which can be used to demonize or delegitimize Israel or the Jews is accepted unquestionably. Any evidence which might provide a defense for the actions of Israel or the Jews is immediately dismissed as propaganda.

..... and of course the most important rule is that no one had better dare accuse people who think this way of hating Jews...... they are just fair minded human right activists who are doing everything they can to oppose the evil and nefarious schemes of the Jew menace as accurately portrayed in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion........ just like those poor misunderstood Germans.

Excellent critique...of mayabong's political/world view...I give you an A+.

The Demon · 06-01-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6

That is right Maya. "They" are capable of any evil action while the poor oppressed Muslims are always the victim. "They" control and manipulate everything that happens in the world for their own nefarious aims while the rest of humanity plods along helpless and confused. "They" are diabolically clever and unfathomably evil while everyone else are basically decent hard working people who have been duped by "them". All the evil in the world is perpetrated by one group of Jews (sorry Zionists) while the rest of the world's people are just innocent victims. From the Romans to the Huns to Genghis Khan to the Teutonic Knights to Vlad the Impaler to Ivan the Terrible to Napoleon to Hitler to Stalin to Mao to Pol Pot........... all just a result of the evil schemes of the nefarious Jews (I mean Zionists).

Remember the rule of the debate people....... all acts that appear to be acts of aggression by Muslims against Israel or anyone else are actually Israeli "false flag" operations. All evidence which can be used to demonize or delegitimize Israel or the Jews is accepted unquestionably. Any evidence which might provide a defense for the actions of Israel or the Jews is immediately dismissed as propaganda.

..... and of course the most important rule is that no one had better dare accuse people who think this way of hating Jews...... they are just fair minded human right activists who are doing everything they can to oppose the evil and nefarious schemes of the Jew menace as accurately portrayed in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion........ just like those poor misunderstood Germans.

Hahahahahaha haven't heard something so funny in a long time. Great criticism of Mayabong, the nutcase.

roly · 06-01-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

I said Britain and "Spain" that total 11,000 troops form a combined nation population of 110 million..... that's minimal

and i was refering to britain alone, 10k troops, 60m population. not minimal. anyway lets not waste any more time on this.

onwebcam · 06-01-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

do you have a link?

Turkish PM: Israeli Raid A 'Bloody Massacre'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_595803.html

Turkish warships heading toward the eastern Mediterranean
http://translate.google.com/translat...39&sl=el&tl=en

Fate of the Turkish fleet will sail to the eastern Mediterranean
http://translate.google.com/translat...39&sl=el&tl=en

Kurds have attacked Turkeys navy base and they kill 6 turkish soldiers.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...WJqKQD9G1SSJ80

Israel Reportedly Training Kurdish Forces - Defense/Middle East ...
Feb 5, 2010 ... Recent reports indicate that Israeli agents are working in Iraqi Kurdistan to train Kurdish commandos in guerrilla war and ...
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/news.aspx/135877

Next time we'll use more force'
http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177134

Egypt lifts its side of Gaza blockade for aid
http://www.examiner.com/a-2657271~Eg...for_ aid.html

Activists send more boats to challenge Gaza blockade
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.p...ade-2010-06-01

Lets ALL Sail to Gaza!

'Rachel Corrie' solidarity ship resumes sailing after 48 hours delay

http://www.paltelegraph.com/palestin...48-hours-delay

Barack Obama request talks with Turkey Prime Minister Erdoğan
http://www.nationalturk.com/en/barac...gan-4565422456

German news is apparently reporting the missing members.

mayabong · 06-01-2010, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6

That is right Maya. "They" are capable of any evil action while the poor oppressed Muslims are always the victim. "They" control and manipulate everything that happens in the world for their own nefarious aims while the rest of humanity plods along helpless and confused. "They" are diabolically clever and unfathomably evil while everyone else are basically decent hard working people who have been duped by "them". All the evil in the world is perpetrated by one group of Jews (sorry Zionists) while the rest of the world's people are just innocent victims. From the Romans to the Huns to Genghis Khan to the Teutonic Knights to Vlad the Impaler to Ivan the Terrible to Napoleon to Hitler to Stalin to Mao to Pol Pot........... all just a result of the evil schemes of the nefarious Jews (I mean Zionists).

Remember the rule of the debate people....... all acts that appear to be acts of aggression by Muslims against Israel or anyone else are actually Israeli "false flag" operations. All evidence which can be used to demonize or delegitimize Israel or the Jews is accepted unquestionably. Any evidence which might provide a defense for the actions of Israel or the Jews is immediately dismissed as propaganda.

..... and of course the most important rule is that no one had better dare accuse people who think this way of hating Jews...... they are just fair minded human right activists who are doing everything they can to oppose the evil and nefarious schemes of the Jew menace as accurately portrayed in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion........ just like those poor misunderstood Germans.

If iran would have done something like this, you guys and the western media would be calling for World War 3.

I've posted many KNOWN incidents of israel attacking america and britain using false flag terror, and I'm the crazy anti-semite who has the nerve to accuse israel of doing it again. haha.

As far as the nazi thing. long before germany began restricting right of jews this happened.

I don't consider Zionists Jews at all, they are eastern europeans who converted to Judism in 700 AD from the Khazzar Empire. You honestly gonna tell me that Netanyahoo and Sharon are of middle eastern decent? give me a break.

Israel has done a good job brainwashing.

sperbonzo · 06-01-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mayabong

I don't consider Zionists Jews at all, they are eastern europeans who converted to Judism in 700 AD from the Khazzar Empire. You honestly gonna tell me that Netanyahoo and Sharon are of middle eastern decent? give me a break.

Obviously Muslims aren't really muslims... they only started in 610 AD, and the vast majority didn't start until well after 700 AD.... so they really aren't Muslims.

(Pssst! NEVER look at the 800,000+ Jews living all over the middle east that were driven from their homes after thousands of years in 1948-49 and fled to Israel. Don't EVER look at that!)

The Demon · 06-01-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Obviously Muslims aren't really muslims... they only started in 610 AD, and the vast majority didn't start until well after 700 AD.... so they really aren't Muslims.

(Pssst! NEVER look at the 800,000+ Jews living all over the middle east that were driven from their homes after thousands of years in 1948-49 and fled to Israel. Don't EVER look at that!)

Hahahaha more facts to confuse mayabong. Oh wait I mean, you've been brainwashed by Israel and the Jewish Media!

mayabong · 06-01-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Obviously Muslims aren't really muslims... they only started in 610 AD, and the vast majority didn't start until well after 700 AD.... so they really aren't Muslims.

(Pssst! NEVER look at the 800,000+ Jews living all over the middle east that were driven from their homes after thousands of years in 1948-49 and fled to Israel. Don't EVER look at that!)

Are you denying a whole eastern european nation converted to judism?

mayabong · 06-01-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Hahahaha more facts to confuse mayabong. Oh wait I mean, you've been brainwashed by Israel and the Jewish Media!

oh the cheerleader yay!

_Richard_ · 06-01-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

Turkish PM: Israeli Raid A 'Bloody Massacre'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_595803.html

Turkish warships heading toward the eastern Mediterranean
http://translate.google.com/translat...39&sl=el&tl=en

Fate of the Turkish fleet will sail to the eastern Mediterranean
http://translate.google.com/translat...39&sl=el&tl=en

Kurds have attacked Turkeys navy base and they kill 6 turkish soldiers.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...WJqKQD9G1SSJ80

Israel Reportedly Training Kurdish Forces - Defense/Middle East ...
Feb 5, 2010 ... Recent reports indicate that Israeli agents are working in Iraqi Kurdistan to train Kurdish commandos in guerrilla war and ...
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/news.aspx/135877

Next time we'll use more force'
http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177134

Egypt lifts its side of Gaza blockade for aid
http://www.examiner.com/a-2657271~Eg...for_ aid.html

Activists send more boats to challenge Gaza blockade
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.p...ade-2010-06-01

Lets ALL Sail to Gaza!

'Rachel Corrie' solidarity ship resumes sailing after 48 hours delay

http://www.paltelegraph.com/palestin...48-hours-delay

Barack Obama request talks with Turkey Prime Minister Erdoğan
http://www.nationalturk.com/en/barac...gan-4565422456

German news is apparently reporting the missing members.

thanks, now i know why i was having difficulty finding anything

mayabong · 06-01-2010, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Hahahaha more facts to confuse mayabong. Oh wait I mean, you've been brainwashed by Israel and the Jewish Media!

You jews cannot debate the false flag terrorism israel has used, its only countered with more poor jew stories.. I love it.

I also love how the world is waking up to the lie.

The Demon · 06-01-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong

You jews cannot debate the false flag terrorism israel has used, its only countered with more poor jew stories.. I love it.

I also love how the world is waking up to the lie.

You seem to "love" a lot of things that aren't actually happening. Is this what you need to tell yourself to sleep better at night? The only people "waking up" are the morons on this forum. Next week everyone will find out that the flotilla had weapons, and that it broke the blockade. Obama will continue to support Israel while you keep calling everyone "Sheep" in a desperate effort to improve your self esteem and sense of individuality.

onwebcam · 06-01-2010, 12:09 PM

Minister of foreign affairs says "any" assault on Rachael Corrie will be a hostile act against Ireland.

sperbonzo · 06-01-2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

You seem to "love" a lot of things that aren't actually happening. Is this what you need to tell yourself to sleep better at night? The only people "waking up" are the morons on this forum. Next week everyone will find out that the flotilla had weapons, and that it broke the blockade. Obama will continue to support Israel while you keep calling everyone "Sheep" in a desperate effort to improve your self esteem and sense of individuality.

Boooyaaaah!!!

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mayabong · 06-01-2010, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Boooyaaaah!!!

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Exactly my point. What israeli false flag terror? Glad to see someone on Demon's side. The jewish bond will even make one become friends with demon to defend the holy land.

AtlantisCash · 06-01-2010, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DOX

Rochard, their knowledge based on commercials, TV, conspiracy theories, UN bordello, International laws, International community and other shit created for them

The world of strategies focused on gaining Power, the big game, Realpolitik - the first rule of politics for politicians. It's immoral ;)

(The term by Ludwig von Rochau, 19th century, Germany)

Consider just Power, not your pure ideals, morals, principles. Weak should die. Animal world.

Nowdays turks kill Kurds, by bombing their villages... and who cares? Fuck it, It's not on TV! News corporations see no commercial interest going to Kurdistan...

Now, same time, Turkey supports flotilia "free Gaza" (with a thousand man for TV, no food), and becomes biggest regional Player! (what about Kurdistan, Armenians etc?)

Send them to free Darfur they won't go

No TV, no Romantics, no Power

Rochard, u discuss with these pure/average idiots (stupid naive majority) full of hate created by commercial media. It's not your league

Your knowledge is much richer, based on facts.

With all its sadness, I see it Positive. Some smart men who see the reality convert it into personal profits ;) More idiots with lack of worldly wisdom we have, better for us ;)

Manipulate them, give them what they want, that shit to eat and they will pay you!

Stop pulling things out of Your ass, where is kurdistan, which country recognizes it's Independence? where did it placed at international law?

and about Armenians, whats the reality is, they are just crybabies who are lieing to the whole world and some hypocrite politicians trying to benefit from their attention.

i agree some bad things happened in the history, but it wasn't a genocide, armenian gangs killed lots of Turks within their raids in Turk villages.

and only 17 years ago this Armenians killed lots of Turks in Azerbaijan.

a specially in Hocali, they cut connection with whole world and have done a big massacre to Turks there.

Karabag is still under Armenian occupation.

i can write lots of things with real proofs, but this is not the case now.

for the recent events, why we have ongoing issues with Israel is the reason, unfortunately our prime minister is asking for some dumb ignorant religious cunt's votes, thats why we have problem today with Israel aka one of our strategic partners.

because of Our adventurous prime minister, we involved in this.

i support that we should help those people in need of help and give them what they need, but it could be a different ways.

briefly he can't control his mouth and says what shouldn't be said at international arena thats the problem

mayabong · 06-01-2010, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

Turkish PM: Israeli Raid A 'Bloody Massacre'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_595803.html

Turkish warships heading toward the eastern Mediterranean
http://translate.google.com/translat...39&sl=el&tl=en

Fate of the Turkish fleet will sail to the eastern Mediterranean
http://translate.google.com/translat...39&sl=el&tl=en

Kurds have attacked Turkeys navy base and they kill 6 turkish soldiers.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...WJqKQD9G1SSJ80

Israel Reportedly Training Kurdish Forces - Defense/Middle East ...
Feb 5, 2010 ... Recent reports indicate that Israeli agents are working in Iraqi Kurdistan to train Kurdish commandos in guerrilla war and ...
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/news.aspx/135877

Next time we'll use more force'
http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177134

Egypt lifts its side of Gaza blockade for aid
http://www.examiner.com/a-2657271~Eg...for_ aid.html

Activists send more boats to challenge Gaza blockade
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.p...ade-2010-06-01

Lets ALL Sail to Gaza!

'Rachel Corrie' solidarity ship resumes sailing after 48 hours delay

http://www.paltelegraph.com/palestin...48-hours-delay

Barack Obama request talks with Turkey Prime Minister Erdoğan
http://www.nationalturk.com/en/barac...gan-4565422456

German news is apparently reporting the missing members.

Thanks for all the info

femdomdestiny · 06-01-2010, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Look, trust me when I say the US has ZERO interest in coal from Kosovo. We have some of the largest coal mines in the world here and many that are untapped and considered reserves.

I'd be willing to bet the US has ZERO organized American/international drug smuggling rings in Kosovo. The biggest market for illegal drugs is the US and we still can't fill the market need here.

American morality? Christ, we are the only country in the world that has dropped a atomic/nuclear bomb on someone not once, but twice. Do you think by giving me a link to a crappy conspiracy page is actually going to change my opinion on American morality? It's simple..don't fuck with the US because they will kill you.

Here is were the hypocrisy sets in with you. The minority Muslims needed help because they were slaughtered in Kosovo and we Americans did something about it and got zero recognition from the International Muslim community. So why should we help anyone?

My opinion is we should mind our own business. If an earthquake displaces 200,000 people. Too fucking bad next time you'll learn to put rebar in the concrete. If you're being slaughtered because of your religious beliefs maybe it's time for you to convert. It's time for the American public to wake up and realize when we help other countries we are just enabling them to continue their problems.

The only reason I answered your post is because most Americans would ignore it/you because at best it's laughable. BUT by not answering it would make you believe there is some sort of validity to it.

You should believe me as a person who was actually there and still going few times per year what is going on. Also,you should believe me that I can answer to all of your quatations there but it will be waset of time since you are simply not ready to accept some things we were talking about. (crapy documents you are talking about are just basic and where you can find info that you can better research online with absolute choice of resources, but you are probably not ready to do so).And at the end, you were not there, (or maybe you were?) in 1998 and 1999 when USA helped arming muslim terrorists there and provoked attacks while hiding in villages with kids. thank you for your time.

TheDoc · 06-01-2010, 12:33 PM

If they would only listen to the people...

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The Demon · 06-01-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

If they would only listen to the people...

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Yea, totally, "the people" is one guy with a sign. Way to prove your point.. Oh wait.

mayabong · 06-01-2010, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Now for the Americans on here supporting the Palestinians did you forget about this?

is this any different?

Israeli's celebrating attack on ship?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6a3_1275348204

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