why should we have to live in a world where that even a worry

well robbie didn't
when this was first being bantered about gfy robbie was pointing to the law and saying the days of pirates was a commin.

another example of me being right and robbie being wrong.

Even if there's a failure to come to a an agreement between world parties, each country is going to be taking a harsher stance on piracy, and the USA has always had the most to gain.

I remember Undernet IRC back in the early 90's, that place was public pedo heaven. Nowadays it's not. Things will change.

they discuss this already almost two years, nothing change a lot of countries again this idea.

The ACTA has nothing to do with stopping piracy and everything to do with taking control of the internet. It is the final free frontier for media, and that is something that needs to be terminated in the eyes of the controllers. Close up the loopholes in the DMCA, take a zero tolerance approach against those who distribute pirated material and force them to be vigilant in the prevention of it's distribution. Fine anyone caught doing so heavily. I have no arguments against piracy on the net needing to be taken care of, however the ACTA is something entirely different and attacks the rights of each and every user online who is living in a nation under the watch of ACTA. If the act was a simple attack on piracy without other ramifications what's the issue with making the entire thing publicly available for review?

govts need money, if they can catch 1 Million Pirates a week holding some pirated stuff at the airports and fine just 1000 each ...

its 1,000,000,000 DOLLARS ...is that One Billion??
huh

1000 is not much of a fine. i think lots of people can take it....
thats a crazy revenue idea indeed to pay the national debt off
52 Billion a year ...a on 10 year plan .. 520B ... not bad ...

Europe govts need money too ..

lets do it... i am sure all the politicans' family each can pay 1k many times a year. very very few can say their machine is clean

if this law does pass, I hope this is well explained to ALL ...

Should go study digital law asap, i can tons of money coming if this passes

You are not reading the thread... Acta is completely public by now. Last draft just 4 days ago: http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/doc...doc_146699.pdf

Also, for those that ever thought this was going to close down dmca loopholes... The USA wanted the rest of acta countries to adopt dmca, not abandon it...

Democrats will check my phone for illegal music, sweet

Interesting. I'll print it off and give it a read in the next couple days.

Do you really believe for one second that ACTA will do anything to protect this industry?? ACTA is a tool large corporations can use to wipe out the competition and politicians can use to put an end to free speech.

lol @ your tinfoil hat (not being insulting, it actually made me laugh)

use content that you own on your site, or content you actually really do have the rights to use - then no worries - government, individuals, and corporations (large or small) can't touch you

speak your free thoughts, in your own free words, typed by your own free hands - then no worries - your free speech is free to be free :1orglaugh

I do, and always will, support any international agreements that seeks to curb (even criminalize) digital piracy, digital theft, copyright infringement, digital counterfeiting, 'ooops, was that your content?, you'll have to DMCA me :1orglaugh ', 'sharing' with your 500 million internet friends....etc

I would also support any international push to rid the internet of all 'free' porn. (LOL - think of the kids!!!!)


and get back to making some real money in porn.

and have bands be lavishly rich and have the resources to produce amazing new things - and have their production companies spending 100X more on promotion and concert tours and stage shows too :thumbsup

and have the Movie industry so bloated with cash that every new movie has a production budget of a Billion dollars.

maybe thats just me...

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Ok, the ACTA's in the open now... But only recently. The negotiations have been going on for years now behind closed doors. It was a big secret who was invited and why. The reason: "If the negotiations would have been public, the crop's participating wouldn't have been able to speak freely without suffering damage to their public image". That alone should tell you something about what happened there behind closed doors... btw: that's a literal quote from EU commissioner Karel De Gucht.

So you think you'll be safe if you just use your own content? Think again, ACTA's about a lot more than that. It's also about patents, software patents etc... the kind where some corporation patents "a software system that enables a person to buy access to digital content" or "a system that allows a person to add an item to a shopping cart with one click"....

8char...

I'm amazed some people are for ACTA... it's a piece of control freak that will only manage to protect the big guys. Do you honestly think would know if the sex amateur videos or images on your computer are yours or not. They will know if Adobe Photoshop is... or Microsoft Windows 7, at best.

Anyway, virtual offshore HD is the future. If big brother scan my stuff at the border, they will find nothing else than an Operating System.

no fair editing :1orglaugh

yeah, I fully agree that hosts and ISP's should shoulder some of the responsibility

there has to be some give and take built in - there has to be appeals processes - there has to be special needs dispensations...

but there also has to be a ban-hammer for the frequent abusers - and those who flagrantly profit from others productions

and DMCA is useless

but if the hosting companies and the ISP's were sending the warnings and cutting accounts - the impact would be huge.

as far as content being taken down and sites blocked or shut down with just a single notice of infringement - well, no system works that way - and I don't believe that this one would either. Fraudulent reports of infringement can be dealt with through criminal fines in extreme cases or civil suits in other cases.

don't break, circumvent, or stretch the law - and you have nothing to worry about.

As the temperature starts cooling down, soup is back on the menu!

http://missingfiles.kitchenparade.co...400-747481.JPG

this smells like Sarko (french president) has a good hand in it -

read up on HADOPI

The law itself isn't the problem - the way it is executed is.

Absolutely no means of recourse. Guilty, even if you aren't, and with risk of being cut off from the internet if the same error happens twice again (bigger risk of false positive since the ISP is now monitoring you.

what a fucking mess :helpme

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Looks kookie...