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Old 12-06-2002, 11:35 AM   #1
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cologroup is DOWN again

Fuck it.. the virtual accounts server is down AGAIN.

It's down for few hours already...
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Are you sure its the right server?
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Old 12-06-2002, 11:39 AM   #4
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Fuck it.. the virtual accounts server is down AGAIN.

It's down for few hours already...
Bummer, <a href="http://www.isprime.com?refid=marzzo" target="_blank">ISPrime</a> is up!
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Stop with the cologroup threads. jesus

who cares anymore, instead of complaining do something about it.
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Old 12-06-2002, 12:51 PM   #7
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who cares anymore, instead of complaining do something about it.
Like moving their stuff to "Thumbserver Hosting"? ;-)
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Fuck it.. the virtual accounts server is down AGAIN.

It's down for few hours already...

Like, Whoa
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Old 12-06-2002, 01:25 PM   #9
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Yea really , Stop it with the cologroup threads.

They seem to be down all the time so either stop whining or change your host.
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Fuck it.. the virtual accounts server is down AGAIN.

It's down for few hours already...
GET A NEW HOST.
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Jesus, does this really warrent a new thread? Posting every time cologroup goes down is like posting every time The Hun updates. Get a new host, even jason from cologroup can't understand why he still has virtual hosting clients.
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Jesus, does this really warrent a new thread? Posting every time cologroup goes down is like posting every time The Hun updates. Get a new host, even jason from cologroup can't understand why he still has virtual hosting clients.
the amount of complaints I can't understand why cologroup has ANY clients at all?
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Jesus, does this really warrent a new thread? Posting every time cologroup goes down is like posting every time The Hun updates.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about......

The Hun only updates once a day
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the amount of complaints I can't understand why cologroup has ANY clients at all?
seems like their dedicated customers have no probs. its just the virtual hosting clients.
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You don't know what the fuck you're talking about......

The Hun only updates once a day


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seems like their dedicated customers have no probs. its just the virtual hosting clients.
It seems to mainly be virtual accounts, but I'm with Sleazy, if I had a box there, I'd get out before the virtual problems became my problems. Plus, ask that dynaspin dude how he likes his server.
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the amount of complaints I can't understand why cologroup has ANY clients at all?
easy... because i promote them and know they run a top notch operation for cheap cost to the consumer.... rawpussy was #33 in the world, running off of cologroup, i sold it, its now on sextracker, now its like number 50 something in the world... go figure... it's the little people who dont understand how to use their server having problems... and even then, its 1 or 2 people, who use other names, get their friends to post, to seem like many.. it's quite funny really to watch the poor people scuttle amongst themselves....
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easy... because i promote them and know they run a top notch operation for cheap cost to the consumer.... rawpussy was #33 in the world, running off of cologroup, i sold it, its now on sextracker, now its like number 50 something in the world... go figure... it's the little people who dont understand how to use their server having problems... and even then, its 1 or 2 people, who use other names, get their friends to post, to seem like many.. it's quite funny really to watch the poor people scuttle amongst themselves....
You failed to mention that you mirrored the server you were running RawPussy off of.
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it's the little people who dont understand how to use their server having problems...
Isn't the whole point of paying for a MANAGED server not to have to worry about understanding it? Don't people pay good money to have thier hosting company take care of the technical side so they can focus on the business side of things? The majority of webmasters I know have little knowledge of how to use the operating system their sites run on.
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easy... because i promote them and know they run a top notch operation for cheap cost to the consumer.... rawpussy was #33 in the world, running off of cologroup, i sold it, its now on sextracker, now its like number 50 something in the world... go figure... it's the little people who dont understand how to use their server having problems... and even then, its 1 or 2 people, who use other names, get their friends to post, to seem like many.. it's quite funny really to watch the poor people scuttle amongst themselves....
And by "#33 in the world", you mean the 33th ranked TGP on sextracker, I assume...
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If you guys where paying attention last month on one of the other "Cologroup Down threads", I said I am not doing virtual hosting anymore and told everyone that we where discontinuing the service at the end of December. It was no longer a wise business decision to continue the virtual service.

A lot of customers moved off when I said that last month, which is what I wanted, but there are still almost 100 accounts on there. If Jamie at thumbserver wants the virtual accounts, go ahead and sign them all up. On January 1, 2003, we are done with virtual and you wont have anymore threads about Cologroup being down.

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How the hell can anyone be happy after 48 hours downtime? Sorry but I wouldn't care if you offered me a free YEAR, I'd be gone after that.
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Yeah, he was pissed off, but he recognized what happened and that it was a mistake. Not only that, but it was a mistake of mislabeling a server by our old tech who was fired. I offered a way to make up for the mistake, he accepted it, and we are moving on.
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Dynaspain and I worked out the problem, so he is happy as well. Go read the thread if you want.

Cologroup is a great company. If you dont realize that know, you will in the future.
Then why is is still possible to create a virtual account at cologroup.com?!
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Granted, I'm a newbie to the board but I've seen more complaints about you guys than any other host, period. Will the realization of your company's greatness be in your chapter 7 paperwork? If so, post em here
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www.phatservers.net/virtual.html
if you need to move virtual

however you should step up to plan c for the shared hosting
there are no more than 6 accounts on 1 server
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On January 1, 2003, we are done with virtual and you wont have anymore threads about Cologroup being down.
Oh no what will we do then?
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cologroup is a great company. they should have scrapped the virtual hosting a long time ago. i have been a dedicated client for awhile now and its great, never any down time.

i myself know when you are on a virtual host account, you will ALWAYS be risking having your site go down because no network is 100% stable with virtual accounts. the admins / host can't predict when someones account is going to spike in traffic, or a script cause an error that crashes the whole network.

if you can't afford the prices of dedicated / colocated machines these days, why are you in this businesS? you could be making more at mcdonalds
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Well, I'm just sitting here having coffee and oreos while my account on <a href=http://oxeo.com>Oxeo</a> is humming along just fine and dandy.
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if you can't afford the prices of dedicated / colocated machines these days, why are you in this businesS? you could be making more at mcdonalds
i ran sites off of virtual hosting for the longest time and made 4x more than i could at mcdonalds. thats on about 50-75 gigs of transfer a month.
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50 - 70 gigs of transfer a month is nothing

thats like a quarter a megabit, and megabits are as low as $40 / mbps
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lets take OXEO VS COLOGROUP for example

billing structures

-Oxeo
Dell Poweredge 1.1GHZ Pentium III, 512MB RAM, 36GB SCSI
Total B/W MONTHLY 500 GB TRANSFER

$1100 U.S. A MONTH

now take cologroup

-Cologroup
Dual p3 1ghz, dual 60 gig hd's, 1 gig of ram ($200 - $300 / mo)
$40 - $100 PER MBPS (300GB TRANSFER / MO)

Cologroup also has "remote" booters, so when your box locks up, you can login to a web panel and reboot a box.

So...which is more worthwhile?

if you can not afford a cologroup dedicated box at the prices above, you should not be in this business. they even manage the servers for you

get one of the cologroup admins to login to my box and post the uptime, its been up no problems for 6 or 7 months straight, if not more

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There is a reason why people take their complaints with Cologroup to the board immediately. Cologroup among other hosts, constantly opens threads explaining this new feature or that new feature, rather than issue e-mail to their clients or choosing to advertise.

Therefore, they have made their business a public one, for both the good news and the bad. So, please stop complaining about putting the "cat back in the bag, " and try to stop people from discussing your shortcomings.

People are going to complain quite publically, just as others cheerlead for you, as long as you continue to play the boards actively.
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question: why are you still using them after so many downtimes that you can't keep track of anymore?

and btw, you're paying too much for cogent or williams, or whatever they are routing from, with them.
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50 - 70 gigs of transfer a month is nothing

thats like a quarter a megabit, and megabits are as low as $40 / mbps
ya but then you have dedicated server fees on top of that. waste of coin, and there are plenty of top notch hosts out there for virtual who never have problems.

i still have virtual hosting with candid. when i started good prices for bandwidth was 5 bux a gig.
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at $5 per gb with candid, thats $1500 per megabit basically

with cologroup a megabit is $40 - $100 each

so a $200 - $300 / mo server from them, plus 1 mbps, is probably going to run you around $400. that is not even comparable to $1500
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at $5 per gb with candid, thats $1500 per megabit basically

with cologroup a megabit is $40 - $100 each

so a $200 - $300 / mo server from them, plus 1 mbps, is probably going to run you around $400. that is not even comparable to $1500
i'm sorry, should have mentioned i started 4 years ago
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cologroup is a great company. they should have scrapped the virtual hosting a long time ago. i have been a dedicated client for awhile now and its great, never any down time.
If they can't provide a service, they shouldn't offer it and charge people money for it, period.


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i myself know when you are on a virtual host account, you will ALWAYS be risking having your site go down because no network is 100% stable with virtual accounts. the admins / host can't predict when someones account is going to spike in traffic, or a script cause an error that crashes the whole network.
A virtual hosting accout with cologroup, maybe. The people I know who have virtual accounts with he.net are laughing. Seriously, learn how to provide your customers with the service or stop offering it.


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if you can't afford the prices of dedicated / colocated machines these days, why are you in this businesS? you could be making more at mcdonalds
LOL, what about newer webmasters? Or people who run small sites, like wm resource sites, who have no need for a dedicated?



Sorry man, but your whole post was ridiculous, and you know it. It's impossible to defend cologroup here. Their virtual accounts are no less their customers than their dedicated accounts.
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at $5 per gb with candid, thats $1500 per megabit basically

with cologroup a megabit is $40 - $100 each

so a $200 - $300 / mo server from them, plus 1 mbps, is probably going to run you around $400. that is not even comparable to $1500
5 bucks a gig at candid? i don't think so. you only have to move 4K gigs a month to be paying 80 cents/gig.

prices are lower than that if you do serious volume.
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5 bucks a gig at candid? i don't think so. you only have to move 4K gigs a month to be paying 80 cents/gig.

prices are lower than that if you do serious volume.
quiet, you pay 0.80? damn! my own sites have about 1/5 of your volume and pay 0.30 on Cable & wireless.
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Old 12-07-2002, 12:50 PM   #44
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quiet, you pay 0.80? damn! my own sites have about 1/5 of your volume and pay 0.30 on Cable & wireless.
uh no, i said that if you push 4K gig/month you pay 80 cents. i push 70 terabytes... so my rates are much lower
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Old 12-07-2002, 12:52 PM   #45
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uh no, i said that if you push 4K gig/month you pay 80 cents. i push 70 terabytes... so my rates are much lower
oh right on then! 220Mbits only? Slow month?
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Old 12-07-2002, 12:54 PM   #46
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oh right on then! 220Mbits only? Slow month?
lol. of course some times of the day are much busier than others ;)
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Old 12-07-2002, 02:30 PM   #47
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lets take OXEO VS COLOGROUP for example

billing structures

-Oxeo
Dell Poweredge 1.1GHZ Pentium III, 512MB RAM, 36GB SCSI
Total B/W MONTHLY 500 GB TRANSFER

$1100 U.S. A MONTH

now take cologroup

-Cologroup
Dual p3 1ghz, dual 60 gig hd's, 1 gig of ram ($200 - $300 / mo)
$40 - $100 PER MBPS (300GB TRANSFER / MO)

Cologroup also has "remote" booters, so when your box locks up, you can login to a web panel and reboot a box.

So...which is more worthwhile?

if you can not afford a cologroup dedicated box at the prices above, you should not be in this business. they even manage the servers for you

get one of the cologroup admins to login to my box and post the uptime, its been up no problems for 6 or 7 months straight, if not more
Not far to compare those hosts. Oxeo is a multihomed host....

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seems like their dedicated customers have no probs. its just the virtual hosting clients.
I would concur, no problem with ColoGroup from here
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Old 12-07-2002, 02:58 PM   #49
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Sorry man, but your whole post was ridiculous, and you know it. It's impossible to defend cologroup here. Their virtual accounts are no less their customers than their dedicated accounts.
hmmm, you are right, to a point, but, you get what you pay for, and if I don't get better service than the guy that is paying a fraction of what I am paying, I am going somewhere that will.
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A virtual hosting accout with cologroup, maybe. The people I know who have virtual accounts with he.net are laughing. Seriously, learn how to provide your customers with the service or stop offering it.
It looks like you are giving me advice to stop offering a service that I cant provide, and if you look at the thread, thats exactly what I did.

Our dedicated service kicks ass and that is our only focus.
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