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Fletch XXX 11-24-2002 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by smileygirls
not happened to me yet, thank goodness.

Quiet, why do you think you got one? I mean what triggered it?
Just out of the blue?

Sometime Panic Attacks can be brought on by the Anticipation of the Panic Attack.

The best book on Panic Attacks is 'Don't Panic' - by Robert Wilson

Quiet order it online and read it.

That book alone will ease you and let you realize you dont need medicine.

Trust me, read the book.

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Pornkings 11-24-2002 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by quiet


yeah, what you described is pretty much what happened to me about 30 minutes ago. never experienced it before. not fun.

I get them all the time infact Most webmasters I talk to do.

It fuckin sucks feels like your gonna die and you can't control it so just go with it and know you will be alright

KRL 11-24-2002 12:12 AM

A friend of mine gets them if she goes on the I-95. She says she feels trapped and gets all freaked out.

SNOW 11-24-2002 12:13 AM

A Jar of Icy- Hot on my balls would give me a panic attack.

If you get them more then twice see a doc quiet.

jas1552 11-24-2002 12:21 AM

I think I have a slight case of social anxiety disorder. Usually i'm just kinda shy but not too bad. But when i get high and i'm around people i quietly freak the fuck out.

421Fill 11-24-2002 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by Martin
Sometimes I think to myself.. One day I'll be dead and sort of go on a trip about that..:stoned
ditto. I'll go to bed that night and think to myself, "just let it happen while I'm asleep... that's all I ask..." Then, the next morning I wake up and feel fine... almost forget about it... until it happens again. :helpme

However, the past year, I have been able to control them to a degree by changing my lifestyle and learning from what I do, etc.

Martin 11-24-2002 12:48 AM

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Originally posted by jas1552
I think I have a slight case of social anxiety disorder. Usually i'm just kinda shy but not too bad. But when i get high and i'm around people i quietly freak the fuck out.
Paranoia will destroy ya..

:glugglug

Serious.. If you want all these things to go away.. Get exercise. Join a gym, ride a bike.. Just do stuff other then sitting in front of your computer 13 hours a day.. Worked for me..

Peace

GoLiaT 11-24-2002 01:10 AM

i think panic attacks is very common among us
there is so many bizz factors that we dont control
SE positions
Visa regulations
etc etc
fuck everytime i have a real bad sales day i think
that maybe i will never sell again as i used to
and freak the hell out :)
we also sleep to little and at weird times
its to easy to "step into the office" and work again
sometimes i go to bed and wake up 3 hours later

SleazyDream 11-24-2002 01:13 AM

I've had them.They seem to happen when stress in my personal life hits an alltime high. I hope whatever is troubling you resolves itself quiet.

titmowse 11-24-2002 01:24 AM

less than one hundred years ago, a human's day was filled with the tasks necessary to their very survival. from growing their personal food to constructing their homes and manufacturing their furniture. the average modern man had a full day with little time to "ponder life's mysteries".

our technologies have advanced faster than our abilities to process them.

think about that.

Fletch XXX 11-24-2002 01:24 AM

:smokin

Hot Tropical Babes 11-24-2002 01:25 AM

Quiet,
after reading some of your posts, it seems you have had some tuff changes in life. That alone can bring on a panic attack. It dont mean you are a nut! Chemical changes happen for simple reasons, for example, eating hot peppers will increase endorphins. (the natural "feel good" drug in your brain) Being sad, mad, whatever, well, that can change chemicals also. Check with your doctor. IMO, Mental Health facilities may be a better way to go. Due to the fact they specialize in these kinds of things. The family dr, gets drug reps in and uses whatever the latest drug they want pushed. There is alot of research articles on the web, do a search and get a feel of what is out there. The thing that is bothersome about this is, the holidays are here. With the things you have talked about, this can be a major stresser for you. Good luck babe, take care of yourself!

hyper 11-24-2002 01:26 AM

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Corona 11-24-2002 01:33 AM

I had one about 15 years ago and never had one since.

I thought I was having a heart attack and my roomate insisted on taking me to the emergency room. They gave me an EKG which checked out just fine.

If it only happens once I wouldn't worry about it. If it happens again then get a checkup.

dig420 11-24-2002 01:44 AM

I started having them in college and just lived with them for years thinking I was being a pussy. Finally I saw a counselor, quit drinking, got on prozac which helps but has it's own set of problems.

it's been said before and it sounds too easy, but exercise is really the best solution. VIGOROUS exercise. I train in BJJ now and the attacks are non-existent except when I smoke weed hehe

I can't seem to give that up totally although I know it's a trigger. I just try to take tiny little tokes and smoke right up to the point I think I can handle without having a brain seizure :1orglaugh

diggy 11-24-2002 01:46 AM

why did you quit drinking

marzzo 11-24-2002 01:48 AM

Panic attack, I can relate to that. I had some unexplainable health problems earlier this year and finally discovered that I have MS. Obviously that type of slap in the face can trigger stress related physical symptoms, not know if I'll be able to walk next month or not...

Shit, this thread is depressing me, some homemade Chianti should help.

:glugglug

dig420 11-24-2002 01:48 AM

because I was getting stinking, rotten drunk every single night and hating myself because of it. Alcohol was my method of dealing with the attacks, if you drink enough Cuervo you are IMMUNE to anxiety of any kind.

Fletch XXX 11-24-2002 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by dig420
because I was getting stinking, rotten drunk every single night and hating myself because of it. Alcohol was my method of dealing with the attacks, if you drink enough Cuervo you are IMMUNE to anxiety of any kind.
my attacks and anxiety increased siginificantly when I stopped drinking daily as well.

:smokin

titmowse 11-24-2002 01:56 AM

seriously kids.

i've had real anxiety attacks. i know the experience of being the duck in the firing row, with no where to turn and no way out. I've had the shortness of breath and feeling of impending doom.

Re-Fucking-Lax

You HAVE to learn how to differentiate idle fantasy from real reality. you have to learn that the power lies WITHIN YOU. how what you encounter affects you is entirely up TO YOU.

dig420 11-24-2002 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by marzzo

Shit, this thread is depressing me, some homemade Chianti should help.

:glugglug

these threads don't depress me. I spent a long time thinking I was weird and alone on this. I was scared of going over bridges and flying in airplanes (very common symptoms apparently), scared of trucks on the highway, scared of all kinds of crazy little shit. Every time I suddenly felt these waves of mortal terror wash over me while I was watching TV or eating or some other ordinary thing I would fear for my sanity and future well being.

for me it's good to know that other people suffer from this, and I think it makes you a better, more sympathetic person if you've been afflicted with it and you're still standing.

I can go over any bridge now but I still can't get on an airplane lol..

titmowse 11-24-2002 02:07 AM

I'm not kidding man. things only affect you only if you allow them to affect you.

we will all work out this rapid onset of world-wide familiarity and technological, social engineering.

look...at least we are all taking to each other, all over the world...

tree 11-24-2002 02:09 AM

i had one about six months ago. felt like someone reached inside my chest and squeezed the fuck out of my heart. after a few minutes on the floor and a bowl i was better and havnt had one since. mine was stress related...family problems and such :helpme

kenny 11-24-2002 02:18 AM

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Originally posted by titmowse
I'm not kidding man. things only affect you only if you allow them to affect you.

we will all work out this rapid onset of world-wide familiarity and technological, social engineering.

look...at least we are all taking to each other, all over the world...


Your are right its all in your head, the mind is very powerfull

BV 11-24-2002 02:32 AM

it's probably the hi grade canabis mixed with all the other stresses that life throws at you.

thatdykeliz 11-24-2002 02:35 AM

Yes. I have panic/anxiety disorder, and for a while there, I was having at least one panic attack a day, if not more.

I'm dissociative, so I can't really tell you what they're like for me -- I check out mentally when they start. I've "come back" from attacks to find myself wedged into closets, under tables, sitting on the floor of the shower...it was so bad there for a while that I literally did not leave my room. I had a "safe" path to and from the kitchen to eat, and my bathroom attached to my bedroom was "safe" to me, but other than that, I stayed in hiding.

If you're having panic attacks, the best thing you can do is talk to your doctor. Doesn't necessarily have to be shrink -- your GP can decide what course you want to take. Meds like Xanax can help in the short term, by helping you get through the attack itself, and so can learning how to identify what triggers your attack and make a plan for dealing with it. I'm also on Effexor, which is an antidepressant, and it helps with the attacks in the long term. I took Paxil for a while, but it killed my sex drive.

Unfortunately, some of the best antidepressants for anxiety are also hellish to get off of if you ever want to stop them, so be very sure that you want to stick to a course of meds like Effexor or Paxil, etc, before you get started on them. If I miss more than a single day of my Effexor, I get dizzy and hear/feel these fucked-up zapping sounds in my head. Paxil was like that too.

If you really are having panic attacks, feel free to ICQ me sometime if you need help or advice.

Mutt 11-24-2002 02:47 AM

there is a lot of mental stuff that goes with 'anxiety disorder' but it is far from being 'all in your head'.

Not many people know more about this stuff than me, i haven't kept up to date in the last ....hmmm.....about 7 years. But once i found out that this was a real thing i researched the hell out of it.

There is a ton of medical research proving that while there are personality types who are susceptible to it, and there are stresses in life that can bring about the onset of panic attacks there is a real physical biochemical difference in people who get them. It's very confusing because the same symptoms of 'anxiety disorder' affect EVERYBODY from time to time in life during moments of extreme sense, plus there are many other illnesses that anxiety disorders mimic. Your doctor will work you up to cross off things like heart arthythmias, MS, brain and other tumors, etc. But the hallmark of true anxiety disorder is getting hit with them right out of the blue when you are not feeling any special amount of stress. Stress can bring them on as well but it's the right out of left field ones which really fuck you up because they can make you phobic of so many things.

dig you are in LA, one of the guys i talked to on the phone, has to be 15 years ago was one of the doctors who was on the vanguard of this, 'anxiety disorder' only became an official medical condition in the early 1980's. His name is Dr Dennis Munjack, he was at UCLA. I talked to him for about an hour, i just found his name is a research paper and called him cold.
Maybe he's still there, so if you ever have the need you should look him up.

My problem is that I went undiagnosed for so fucking long and then started on the medical merrygoround looking for what was wrong. I tried anything, man there are some quacks out there.
The food allergy guys are the worst. You could show up in their office with an axe blade in your head and say 'I'm having this really bad pain in my head, help me' and these quacks will put you
through some really ridiculous testing and of course come to the conclusion that the pain in your head stems from an allergy to wheat and dairy products.

My symptoms were a bit atypical. My balance was totally fucked, i felt like the world was tilted, like i was on a ship bouncing up and down on the sea, very strange.

Weed is a definite trigger for people with anxiety attacks.

titmowse 11-24-2002 02:56 AM

see to me, panick attacks are a form of "You Are Here" disorder. you CAN train yourself to control panick attacks.

Shoplifter 11-24-2002 02:57 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
anyone had one?
Only whenever someone says "Just confirmed by Ibill.."

If I get really stressed I will get into the big bottle of Librium. Don't let them give you any of those sissy new pills. Get Xanax or Librium.

BV 11-24-2002 03:09 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt
Weed is a definite trigger for people with anxiety attacks.
Yep. If this happens it helps to do something like wash your car or organize your workbench, etc etc....any task to take your mind off of it, then sometimes in as little as 15 minutes your feeling great.

dig420 11-24-2002 03:21 AM

titmowse, schitzophrenia is also 'all in your head'. Do you think you can control that with mental discipline??

dig420 11-24-2002 03:25 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt

My symptoms were a bit atypical. My balance was totally fucked, i felt like the world was tilted, like i was on a ship bouncing up and down on the sea, very strange.

my favorite sympton was suddenly losing depth perception while driving lol

it's like you're about to drive into a painting of the highway, like on a Roadrunner cartoon :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Sunshine McGillicutty 11-24-2002 03:29 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt

The food allergy guys are the worst. You could show up in their office with an axe blade in your head and say 'I'm having this really bad pain in my head, help me' and these quacks will put you
through some really ridiculous testing and of course come to the conclusion that the pain in your head stems from an allergy to wheat and dairy products.

ROFL :1orglaugh

An ex-girlfriend of mine went through exactly that. The guy told her she had a corn syrup allergy, and it turned out after more testing that she had a undiagnosed thyroid disorder

quiet 11-24-2002 04:24 AM

thanks for all the info. now i'm definitely freaked out :)

sure, i have a very high level of stress in my life. but this came completely out of no where. i was having a snack, drinking some pop - totally chilled. then wham.

Sloane 11-24-2002 04:24 AM

spending too much time infront of a computer screen causes them

Mutt 11-24-2002 04:32 AM

that's an anxiety attack quiet.

my first one came sitting in a college class not thinking about anything. i stumbled home i was so dizzy and scared.

but ya know man. my sister about 5 years after i started getting them called my parents in the middle of the night crying that she was dying and having a heart attack.

she had a few more over the next month or so, went to the doctor to make sure nothing was wrong, settled down and really hasn't had another one in 10 years.

so you might have had a once in a lifetime event, the body/mind is a weird thing.

maybe we have done you a diservice at this point by telling you so many stories because you might start thinking 'when is the next one going to come?'. DON'T. Try to forget it and hopefully
you won't have to deal with one again.

but at least you know that if u do there are a whole lot of people who know what you're talking about. :winkwink:

thatdykeliz 11-24-2002 04:37 AM

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Originally posted by titmowse
see to me, panick attacks are a form of "You Are Here" disorder. you CAN train yourself to control panick attacks.
I don't know about train yourself to CONTROL them, but I eventually learned new ways to deal with them. Instead of falling completely into the moment and thinking, "Oh God, this is never going to end, I'm going to fucking die" and then dissociating myself into the goddamned linen closet, I learned to think, "Okay: I'm having a panic attack. It's happened before, and I have survived it. I will survive it this time. I can ride out the next twenty minutes, and I will survive it."

Sometimes I sit down and make myself write down everything that's going through my head as I panic. Sometimes I grab a basket of laundry and concentrate very hard on folding each piece of clothing exactly. (I have OCD, too, so I know this behavior feeds my OCD, but which would you rather have me do: run around screaming like a lunatic or sit there maniacally folding a sheet in precise quarters, down to the centimeter? :1orglaugh )

Hey, at least my first thought when I panic isn't "hey, where are the razor blades?"any more...

titmowse 11-24-2002 04:37 AM

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Originally posted by dig420
titmowse, schitzophrenia is also 'all in your head'. Do you think you can control that with mental discipline??
schizophrenia is a completely different circumstance than an anxiety/panick attack. there are many mental disorders and illnesses one can't "talk oneself out of".

i am not degrading the significance of anyone's personal experience. i am speaking from the perspective of one who has experienced anxiety attacks. i lost my marbles when i had to serve five thousand people in a room that was legally intended to hold 1500. i couldn't breathe. i couldn't make decisions. i had completely lost control. it was the first time but not the last time i experienced that horrifying terror.

i just like to speak from the other end of hell and show people there is a way out...:321GFY

thatdykeliz 11-24-2002 04:39 AM

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Originally posted by titmowse
i just like to speak from the other end of hell and show people there is a way out...:321GFY
Absolutely. You can get through this. I know, because I had a complete and total fucking breakdown 18 months ago, and I stuck with it, worked hard to get better...and ya know what? The light at the end of the tunnel turned out not be a train after all. :)

titmowse 11-24-2002 04:46 AM

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Originally posted by thatdykeliz


Absolutely.I had a complete and total fucking breakdown

"The beauty part is I don't give a fuck! That's the up side to having a nervous breakdown..."

- Sigourney Weaver in CopyCat


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