12 y/o Goes Trick or Treating, Knocks, Gets a FULL CLIP from an AK47 instead, Dies. - GoFuckYourself.com

Socks · 11-01-2008, 05:48 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/01/....ap/index.html

Hooray for guns! USA. USA. USA. USA.

SUMTER, South Carolina (AP) -- An ex-convict who said he thought he was being robbed gunned down a 12-year-old trick-or-treater, spraying nearly 30 rounds with an assault rifle from inside his home after hearing a knock on the door, police said Saturday.

Spunky · 11-01-2008, 05:49 PM

Jesus,poor kid

marketsmart · 11-01-2008, 05:51 PM

if that doesnt get the dealth penalty...

and socks, a convicted felon is not allowed to own a gun in the US...

421Fill · 11-01-2008, 05:54 PM

poor kid. his family must be devastated

crockett · 11-01-2008, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

if that doesnt get the dealth penalty...

and socks, a convicted felon is not allowed to own a gun in the US...

Not to mention, no way he shot 30 rounds if it wasn't full automatic.

Ron Bennett · 11-01-2008, 06:13 PM

Trick or treating has waned quite a bit, since the late 1970s / early 1980s...

Back then, most every kid (excepting those for religious reasons) went out on Halloween, regardless of the day it fell on, and went door to door late into the evening.

These days, many less kids go out - those who do often go with adult supervision, and trick or treating is typically limited to just an hour or so on a few streets (sometimes with the kids being driven for part of it!) and/or even more restricted, such as trick or treating at the local mall.

My guess is that in a decade or so, trick or treating, like many other things, will mostly be done virtually on the internet.

Ron

Rochard · 11-01-2008, 06:18 PM

Clearly what need is more fucking guns!

StuartD · 11-01-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Clearly what need is more fucking guns!

yes because that would have helped her.

woj · 11-01-2008, 06:22 PM

that's fucked up :-/

brassmonkey · 11-01-2008, 06:30 PM

damn a knock on the door hes a damn idiot where the fuck were her parents i would have pistol wipped his ass then put 1 in his forehead

Iron Fist · 11-01-2008, 06:30 PM

But officer, he really was scary... I thought he was my dealer!

GatorB · 11-01-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

if that doesnt get the dealth penalty...

and socks, a convicted felon is not allowed to own a gun in the US...

Hey this is America we have a right to have guns and shoot people when we feel threatened. No crime was committed. The 2nd Amendment says so.

GatorB · 11-01-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

yes because that would have helped her.

You just don't udnerstand logic. You know like if you have AIDS then the answer is to get herpes and syphylis and ghonorhea. It scares the AIDS then it won't kill you. THINK dummy!

brassmonkey · 11-01-2008, 06:40 PM

ok i read the story his dad and sibling took some shots

SmokeyTheBear · 11-01-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

damn a knock on the door hes a damn idiot where the fuck were her parents i would have pistol wipped his ass then put 1 in his forehead

dad and brother were with him , they were also shot but did not die, mom was in the car waiting at the end of the driveway

Greg MissionD · 11-01-2008, 06:43 PM

Very sad story indeed... More gun control is certainly needed

brassmonkey · 11-01-2008, 06:47 PM

man guns are out this shit happens im not giving up my right to have a gun

GatorB · 11-01-2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg MissionD

Very sad story indeed... More gun control is certainly needed

Guns don't kill people...... bullets do.

Mutt · 11-01-2008, 06:50 PM

i saw this thread title and tried not to click on it - i failed.

how fucking sad - what a mess the human race is

LiveDose · 11-01-2008, 06:54 PM

That is sickening.

TheDoc · 11-01-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

No crime was committed. The 2nd Amendment says so.

He was charged with murder. It's an felony for a felon to own a gun, at that a ak47 and it's murder to kill someone from your house. No 2nd Amendment needed.

GatorB · 11-01-2008, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

He was charged with murder. It's an felony for a felon to own a gun, at that a ak47 and it's murder to kill someone from your house. No 2nd Amendment needed.

Sorry show me WHERE in the 2nd Amendment a felon can not own a gun. Those laws are UNCONSTITUTIONAL. In fact laws preventing people from owning RPGs and tanks are also illegal because the 2nd Amendment says the right to bear ARMS shall NOT be infringed. Go read it. Any person showld be allowed to own any weapon of any kind including biological, chemical and nuclear weapons if you interpret the 2nd amendment to apply to individuals as the NRA does. I'm not sure which part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" is hard to grasp.

TetsuoIronMan · 11-01-2008, 07:15 PM

Im Tony Montana! You fuck with me you fuckin' with the best!

papill0n · 11-01-2008, 07:25 PM

wow what a fucked up piece of crap that guy is

TheDoc · 11-01-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Sorry show me WHERE in the 2nd Amendment a felon can not own a gun. Those laws are UNCONSTITUTIONAL. In fact laws preventing people from owning RPGs and tanks are also illegal because the 2nd Amendment says the right to bear ARMS shall NOT be infringed. Go read it. Any person showld be allowed to own any weapon of any kind including biological, chemical and nuclear weapons if you interpret the 2nd amendment to apply to individuals as the NRA does. I'm not sure which part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" is hard to grasp.

It doesn't say anything about owning a weapon of any kind. It it doesn't say YOU have the right to own a gun. Different Amendments say you have to honor the laws of the States and the rights of people, and it says you can have your rights taken away. And again, lets not forget owning a guy is fine, killing an innocent person which was not threatening you, again has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.

Rochard · 11-01-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

yes because that would have helped her.

Bingo. That's my point!

Even if daddy was packing heat, guess what - He would have been hit before he knew what happened to him.

Can someone explain to me why anyone needs an AK47 in their house?

Rochard · 11-01-2008, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Sorry show me WHERE in the 2nd Amendment a felon can not own a gun. Those laws are UNCONSTITUTIONAL. In fact laws preventing people from owning RPGs and tanks are also illegal because the 2nd Amendment says the right to bear ARMS shall NOT be infringed. Go read it. Any person showld be allowed to own any weapon of any kind including biological, chemical and nuclear weapons if you interpret the 2nd amendment to apply to individuals as the NRA does. I'm not sure which part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" is hard to grasp.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

What Militia did this ak47 carrying mother fucker belong to?

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-01-2008, 08:33 PM

GatorB is clearly bananas. I assume he shares the same rocker that that one cgi-tube guy fell off of.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-01-2008, 08:45 PM

what completely amazes me is the fact that the pro gun types will utilize the felons cannot buy guns argument why ignoring the fact that the majority of mass gun killings and killing of family members, school shootings etc are committed by non felons

often times retired military, cops or other blemish free individuals

Crazy crazy world

GatorB · 11-01-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

What Militia did this ak47 carrying mother fucker belong to?

99.9999% of gun owners do NOT belong to miltias.

Nicky · 11-01-2008, 09:03 PM

Only in America ladies and gentlemen.....well mostly atleast

DWB · 11-01-2008, 09:08 PM

Jesus that is horrible.

- Jesus Christ - · 11-01-2008, 09:34 PM

Here's the problem with gun control... oppression.

I'm not saying right now its horrible and we need to take to the streets shooting, but the reality is that one day It may reach that point. This is why the amendment exists. The whole idea of the local militias was to prevent the centralization of power and tyranny.

The emotional response to a tragedy can easily make people ignore the long term issues of the society as a whole. It's almost as if people are being trained to focus on instant gratification and their own feeling in any given moment.

When weapons are criminalized only criminals and governments have them. What happens when the criminals and the government are one in the same?

The the holocaust started in 1941... that was 59 years ago. Think about it for a minute. Its not some long distant past. In terms of human history that was yesterday.

I feel as sad and disgusted at this story as those of you who want weapons more controlled, but I cannot be foolish enough to believe in the utopian delusion required to think we are ready for that right now.

brassmonkey · 11-01-2008, 09:41 PM

i have 2 ak-47's russian and a chinese

GatorB · 11-01-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ -

Here's the problem with gun control... oppression.

I'm not saying right now its horrible and we need to take to the streets shooting, but the reality is that one day It may reach that point. This is why the amendment exists. The whole idea of the local militias was to prevent the centralization of power and tyranny.

This isn't 1776. If you think a bunch of redneck and their shotguns and deer rifles can some stop a government that decided to become "evil" you are nuts. YOUR gun vs a tank. Whom am I betting on? If the government decide to become evil the first people taken out to be shot are people with guns. Even during the Civil War where the odds were a lot more even the south couldn't win.

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The the holocaust started in 1941... that was 59 years ago. Think about it for a minute. Its not some long distant past. In terms of human history that was yesterday.

if you think that if the Jews had guns that would have stopped Hitler your nuts. Look at how it took PROFESSIONAL armies to stop him. All guns would have done was to encourage Hitler to speed up the "final solution"

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I feel as sad and disgusted at this story as those of you who want weapons more controlled, but I cannot be foolish enough to believe in the utopian delusion required to think we are ready for that right now.

Last time I checked Canada, Australia and the UK are pretty free. Combined they have about 40% of the popualtion if the US and have 2% the gun death rate. hmmmmmm. I'm a HUGE believer in statistics. LOGIC and REASONING and abandoning EMOTION when making decision with ALWAYS lead to the correct answer.

GatorB · 11-01-2008, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

i have 2 ak-47's russian and a chinese

Your penis must really be small.

baddog · 11-01-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

if that doesnt get the dealth penalty...

and socks, a convicted felon is not allowed to own a gun in the US...

Wait a minute, you mean even if there were gun laws convicts would not follow them?

So much for that idea.

brassmonkey · 11-01-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Your penis must really be small.

lol

just because i have guns

Jakez · 11-01-2008, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

Hooray for guns! USA. USA. USA. USA.

In this single line you give off the idea that you think USA is the only country that contains citizens equipped with guns, or that guns should be banned outright. Clearly those are some EXTREMELY idiotic thoughts.

- Jesus Christ - · 11-01-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

This isn't 1776. If you think a bunch of redneck and their shotguns and deer rifles can some stop a government that decided to become "evil" you are nuts. YOUR gun vs a tank. Whom am I betting on? If the government decide to become evil the first people taken out to be shot are people with guns. Even during the Civil War where the odds were a lot more even the south couldn't win.

if you think that if the Jews had guns that would have stopped Hitler your nuts. Look at how it took PROFESSIONAL armies to stop him. All guns would have done was to encourage Hitler to speed up the "final solution"

Last time I checked Canada, Australia and the UK are pretty free. Combined they have about 40% of the population if the US and have 2% the gun death rate. hmmmmmm. I'm a HUGE believer in statistics. LOGIC and REASONING and abandoning EMOTION when making decision with ALWAYS lead to the correct answer.

You basically built a bunch of straw men from things I never said then attacked them. "You're nuts" if you think I'm going to engage you further in that type of conversation. Let me just say I do understand why you feel the way you do.

People can decide for themselves wich argument is based on emotion.

GatorB · 11-01-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

lol

just because i have guns

Yes only small dick dude that feel inferiror feel the need to own guns. Espeically the kind you have. What's the matter if you and me got into a fight you need a GUN to defeat me? Now that's being a pussy. A REAL man can fight without weapons. Only a pussy kills another man with a gun. Yeah shoot someone form a distance instead of having the pleasuree of feeling the life being slowly sucked out of other man with your own hands. If you're are going to kill don't puss around about it.

Voodoo · 11-01-2008, 10:04 PM

Talk about paranoid!

baddog · 11-01-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Sorry show me WHERE in the 2nd Amendment a felon can not own a gun.

Pretty sure that as a felon you lose your Constitutional rights.

tony286 · 11-01-2008, 10:08 PM

Thats so sad the poor kid.

Rochard · 11-01-2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ -

Here's the problem with gun control... oppression.

I'm not saying right now its horrible and we need to take to the streets shooting, but the reality is that one day It may reach that point. This is why the amendment exists. The whole idea of the local militias was to prevent the centralization of power and tyranny.

The emotional response to a tragedy can easily make people ignore the long term issues of the society as a whole. It's almost as if people are being trained to focus on instant gratification and their own feeling in any given moment.

When weapons are criminalized only criminals and governments have them. What happens when the criminals and the government are one in the same?

The the holocaust started in 1941... that was 59 years ago. Think about it for a minute. Its not some long distant past. In terms of human history that was yesterday.

I feel as sad and disgusted at this story as those of you who want weapons more controlled, but I cannot be foolish enough to believe in the utopian delusion required to think we are ready for that right now.

Your talking about the Holocaust like you believe a handful or even tens of thousands could have prevented it. Newsflash - Most households had hunting rifles, and the Holocaust still happened. If you think ten thousand people with hunting rifles and handguns is going to stop an army with tanks and machine guns, well, your on crack. Don't be mistaken and believe that the US Government is afraid of the general population because we have a few handguns.

tony286 · 11-01-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Your talking about the Holocaust like you believe a handful or even tens of thousands could have prevented it. Newsflash - Most households had hunting rifles, and the Holocaust still happened. If you think ten thousand people with hunting rifles and handguns is going to stop an army with tanks and machine guns, well, your on crack. Don't be mistaken and believe that the US Government is afraid of the general population because we have a few handguns.

Well said Roc. I think when it was written it was muskets against muskets but it hasnt been that way for a long long time.

GatorB · 11-01-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

In this single line you give off the idea that you think USA is the only country that contains citizens equipped with guns, or that guns should be banned outright. Clearly those are some EXTREMELY idiotic thoughts.

Sure other countries have citzens with guns. Iran comes to mind. Sudan, in fact most of Africa especially where there is the most trouble. Most middle east countires.

- Jesus Christ - · 11-01-2008, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Your talking about the Holocaust like you believe a handful or even tens of thousands could have prevented it. Newsflash - Most households had hunting rifles, and the Holocaust still happened. If you think ten thousand people with hunting rifles and handguns is going to stop an army with tanks and machine guns, well, your on crack. Don't be mistaken and believe that the US Government is afraid of the general population because we have a few handguns.

Since more than one of you took what I said to mean that, let me clarify.

The reason I brought up the holocaust was not because I thought guns would have prevented it. I brought up how recently it happened to illustrate the immaturity of our society and the danger citizens can still face from their loving big brother.

I agree a government can't be "afraid" of anyone. Its not a person with emotions.

I also agree that you can't stop a tank with guns... you can stop a tank without anything at all. You only have to reach the man inside the tank.

GatorB · 11-01-2008, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Your talking about the Holocaust like you believe a handful or even tens of thousands could have prevented it. Newsflash - Most households had hunting rifles, and the Holocaust still happened. If you think ten thousand people with hunting rifles and handguns is going to stop an army with tanks and machine guns, well, your on crack. Don't be mistaken and believe that the US Government is afraid of the general population because we have a few handguns.

Gun nuts actually believe the US governemnt is afraid. What's sad is the same people are supposedly the most supportive of the troops yet they think these same troops suck so bad they can be defeated by a bunch of Bubbas with shotgund and deer rifles.

- Jesus Christ - · 11-01-2008, 10:19 PM

"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." -Thomas Jefferson

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Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	12 y/o Goes Trick or Treating, Knocks, Gets a FULL CLIP from an AK47 instead, Dies. http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/01/....ap/index.html Hooray for guns! USA. USA. USA. USA. SUMTER, South Carolina (AP) -- An ex-convict who said he thought he was being robbed gunned down a 12-year-old trick-or-treater, spraying nearly 30 rounds with an assault rifle from inside his home after hearing a knock on the door, police said Saturday. Last edited by Socks; 11-01-2008 at 05:51 PM..

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