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Old 09-12-2008, 05:04 PM   #1
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NEWSFLASH OBAMA/CLINTON ticket is on the way

Rumours are circulating to have Joe Biden step aside and have Hillary Clinton step in.. They have until OCT 3rd to do it. Just heard that on CNN
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Rumours are circulating to have Joe Biden step aside and have Hillary Clinton step in.. They have until OCT 3rd to do it. Just heard that on CNN
If that happened, the media and Republicans would have a field day on how Obama keeps changing his mind.
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that would be interesting...but why would they have to do that now?
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i like that scenario....
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either way that anti-american idiot or skirt won't win...

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Obama would be successfully executing the Rocket-launcher-foot technique if that were to happen....
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sorry man you know where I stand on that shit.... granted I am not a fan of where it's at now.... I just pray to god that fucker don't get into office... plus tons of vets in my family all USN.. I'd litterally be kicked out the family litteraly with boots and all
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clinton/obama would have meant 70% vote for obama
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clinton/obama would have meant 70% vote for obama
Yup Obama fucked up big time. 25% of the clinton supporters are voting for McCain. Then McCain picked a woman vp and made those numbers even higher. Dems have NO CLUE how to win. Seriously this is a time where we can not afford McCain to win and Obama goes ahead and fucks it up. I guess when you are running against someone with the same view points you dont try to hard
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the right wing media would of had a field day with Hilary. They were very easy on her during the primary, I think they were waiting for her win and then they were going to pounce hard.
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she wished him dead and did some shady shit shes not trustable he would be crazy no way if he changed now he would be out it would make it like he doesnt know how to make up his mind
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cant find a single reference to this on the interweb thingy.
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The only way this would would work is if Biden stepped aside for health reasons or something similar. If it was just to allow Hillary in, it would be a disaster.
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Me too... Not going to happen. But it's good spin.
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I would instantly vote for McCain if he did that. No questions asked.
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the right wing media would of had a field day with Hilary. They were very easy on her during the primary, I think they were waiting for her win and then they were going to pounce hard.
Not only that. I doubt she had any intention of being VP. Hillary is President material, Palin is not. I'm surprised that Biden hasn't jumped all over Palin (since that would be his fight, Obama should ignore the entire Palin fiasco), but maybe Biden is getting the facts in order and waiting to rip ass during the debates.

I watched the 20/20 interview with Palin tonight. Biden is going to have to force the whole "Maverick" line out of the Republican campaign.

1) She supported the bridge to nowhere until Congress killed it. She accepted the funds anyway, and put $48 million of it toward a Road To Nowhere (a road you can only see from the sky) in Alaska. That's not smaller responsible government or actions of a reformist. This is beauracracy.

2) She reduced lots of taxes but increased sales tax and left her city $13 million in debt. So you pay less taxes but you're now in the red. That's not responsible government. Alaska gets more money per capita than any other state in America - $1.44 for every $1 spent. That's your money. She has an 80% approval rating because she's likable and I believe also because she taxes oil revenues which allows her to give Alaskan households $1200+ a year. Who doesn't like free money?

3) She was not opposed to earmarks. She spearheaded the effort to get earmarks for Alaksa and got them handily, more than ten times the dollar amount per Alaskan citizen than Obama's home state. Reformist? Nope.

4) Towing Bush lines on foreign policy and terrorists.

5) Unable to provide any policy or change that her ticket will implement that is different from the Bush administration in terms of foreign policy, economy, and so forth.

I think Biden has an opportunity to slice and dice Palin not only on personal issues (which may or may not be relevant necessarily) such as her view on abortion, Creationism, Global Warming, but on all the larger issues like economy, war, outlined above. The military is growing thinner with every new front we take on - now we're in Pakistan, Afghanistan is getting out of control, Iran is stronger now than before the war, Iraq is not at the point of political reconciliation and rebuilding as of yet (I won't keep my fingers crossed on it either; Israel has the best military and tech in the world yet faces continuous suicide bombings after 40+ years. Occupation of Iraq can't be won militarily, if at all by modern methods).

Palin is smart and capable, but ironically I think she needs some time in Washington to know how it works, and to familiarize herself with foreign policy positions. And let's be truthful, no candidate on either ticket is going to bring radical change.

Strangely, I have less concern about the quasi-economy we're now living in (which most polled said they're concerned about. I say quasi because of the growing national debt and all-time high living off credit for Americans) and more concern about foreign policy and war. The economy will bounce back. Yet it seems that powerful interests in Washington are going to have America chasing bad guys all over the place and helping to free Democratic foreign states from the shackles of tyrrants for some time.

I'll revise the above. Their are issues seemingly out of mind and out of sight in these campaigns that Lou Dobbs talks about all the time which are of some concern: National Debt, Immigration and Broken Borders.
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Yup Obama fucked up big time. 25% of the clinton supporters are voting for McCain. Then McCain picked a woman vp and made those numbers even higher. Dems have NO CLUE how to win. Seriously this is a time where we can not afford McCain to win and Obama goes ahead and fucks it up. I guess when you are running against someone with the same view points you dont try to hard
You couldn't have said it any better. So true!
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The only way that will ever happen, is if someone finds some substantial dirt on Biden that makes him a certified liability. Anything else would look like poor decision making on Obama's part, and he'd be done.
If Biden was disqualified, I think he'd ask Clinton, but I'm not even certain she'd accept. She's got her sight's n 2012, and the only way she wants to be VP is if saying no would hurt her chances at the presidency in the future.
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This might have something to do with it

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"Quite frankly, [she] might have been a better pick than me. But she?s first rate, I mean that sincerely, she?s first rate, so let?s get that straight," Biden said.
Doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
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Ive been hearing about this for a few days now, it would be a bigger political bombshell than the McGovern/Eagleton debacle in ?72. And it would show Barrys inability to make decisions and overall poor judgement.

I support it 100% as it will insure a Democratic meltdown
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i can't find any truth to this comment
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Doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
It's honest, so I have to respect that. In politics, everyone spends all day telling everyone why they are great and the other person isn't, so it's sort of refreshing.
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It's honest, so I have to respect that. In politics, everyone spends all day telling everyone why they are great and the other person isn't, so it's sort of refreshing.
Honest, yes. But probably not something he should say in public. His doubt may translate into doubt for the voters.
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A simple Google search?

I found at least 50 articles and polls from over a dozen sources, not that hard to find.
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Each day Barry looks more like an idiot then anyone imagined. He's saying some really stupid shit and picking Biden was retarded.

He looks like he's just flopping around and not saying anything.

He's in real trouble !
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I just got off the phone with Obama, he said this is not true.
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Doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
That's because they are taking his reply out of context... he was responding to a statement from a person in the audience that denigrated Hillary Clinton... do you think Palin would have agreed with someone if they said "I'm glad McCain picked you over Romney because I hate that guy."? I am sure she would have played up that he was a great person.
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A simple Google search?

I found at least 50 articles and polls from over a dozen sources, not that hard to find.
you miss my point, as past elections prove, what people say in polls and how they vote later are 2 different things.


my comment stands, there is not fact YET as to how those voters will vote.
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talk about a shake up, the news would rock over that.

..and can you imagine the VP debates?? it would be like porn for pervy old men.
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A link would be nice and where did you hear the 10/3 rumor? I find it odd that I just got an email from the campaign site saying my Obama/Biden sign will be late. Hmmmm.
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I've heard rumors too, but definitelty not on CNN about this shakeup.
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