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DaddyHalbucks 08-29-2008 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 14683787)
Personally as a Republican I think the pick is perfect and he just sealed the election. Of course we will have to see how it plays out. Politics is a tricky game.

You got it!

:thumbsup

DaddyHalbucks 08-29-2008 08:34 PM

I was wathching CNN and they had Clinton stooge Paul Begala give his views. I have never seen Begala so pissed off.. ever. LOL. What a beautiful thing!

Obama also looked worried. His faced was very long and all he could stammer is that Palin offers "more of the same" --whatever that means.

Palin gives the ticket:

A complimentary younger running mate to an old one.
A conservative running mate to a maverick/ RINO.
A healthy shot at the glass ceiling/ Hillary vote.

She appeals strongly to:

All men.
Soccer moms just like herself.
Red State America/ Rural America.
Working America.
Pacific/ Western States.
Evangelicals.
Gun owners.
Government reformers.
...and the list goes on and on.

McCain's choice of Palin is a game changer.

It is just briliant.

SuzzyQ 08-29-2008 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 14685591)

Palin gives the ticket:

A complimentary younger running mate to an old one.
A conservative running mate to a maverick/ RINO.
A healthy shot at the glass ceiling/ Hillary vote.

She appeals strongly to:

All men.
Soccer moms just like herself.
Red State America/ Rural America.
Working America.
Pacific/ Western States.
Evangelicals.
Gun owners.
Government reformers.
...and the list goes on and on.

McCain's choice of Palin is a game changer.

It is just briliant.

I agree 100%. Obama and the democrats will pander to the top 10 TV markets and forget about everyone else. That's the democrats strategy. Always has been.

After Shock Media 08-29-2008 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 14685591)
She appeals strongly to:
All men.
Soccer moms just like herself.
Red State America/ Rural America.
Working America.
Pacific/ Western States.
Evangelicals.
Gun owners.
Government reformers.
...and the list goes on and on.


All men, why? I seem to know a lot of men who are very sexist. Hell look around this board alone.
Soccer moms? Again a lot of women are very interested in equal pay, pro choice and the like.
Rural America? Maybe but then again not sure why. Sure she is from a rural area but it stops about there.
Working America? How and why? The party really is not for working America and she is not even sure what her job would be.
Pacific and Western states? Again why cause she is from Alaska?
Evangelicals - Yup full win there.
Gun owners - Yes a lock on on republican gun owners for sure.
Government reformers? Again why. Unless by reform you mean using your power to fuck with other peoples lives.

kane 08-29-2008 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 14685591)
I was wathching CNN and they had Clinton stooge Paul Begala give his views. I have never seen Begala so pissed off.. ever. LOL. What a beautiful thing!

Obama also looked worried. His faced was very long and all he could stammer is that Palin offers "more of the same" --whatever that means.

Palin gives the ticket:

A complimentary younger running mate to an old one.
A conservative running mate to a maverick/ RINO.
A healthy shot at the glass ceiling/ Hillary vote.

She appeals strongly to:

All men.
Soccer moms just like herself.
Red State America/ Rural America.
Working America.
Pacific/ Western States.
Evangelicals.
Gun owners.
Government reformers.
...and the list goes on and on.

McCain's choice of Palin is a game changer.

It is just briliant.

Palin gives the ticket:

A complimentary younger running mate to an old one. - true, but with that it will take away one of their biggest complaints about Obama - that he has no experience. You can't really tells someone they are not qualified for the job when the person you pick to take over for you if you can't do it has less experience and qualifications than the person you are criticizing.

A conservative running mate to a maverick/ RINO. - McCain hasn't been a maverick for nearly a decade, but she is very conservative.

A healthy shot at the glass ceiling/ Hillary vote. - Why, because she is a woman. Women often nit pick and hate other women. They are worse than guys are. Just because she is a woman doesn't mean the Hillary backers will like her. As one Hillary backer said on CNN, "It was about Hillary, not just any woman."


She appeals strongly to:

All men. - Wrong. I am a man and she doesn't appeal to me. There are many guys that are more liberal who will not like her politics and her positions. So clearly she doesn't appeal to all men.

Soccer moms just like herself. - Wrong again. Most soccer moms are not married to big oil guys nor are they ex-beauty queens. The only thing she will have in common with many soccer moms is that she is a mom.

Red State America/ Rural America. - Yep. And this really doesn't help McCain. She might help in some of the red states that he is currently having trouble in, but he needs independents.

Working America. - Again I am not sure why assume this. She is not a working class person and has not lived a typical working class life.

Pacific/ Western States. - You mean the left coast? She might appeal to some of the midwestern states and places like Montana and the Dakotas because she loves guns and motorcycles, but on the coast she will have zero effect.

Evangelicals. - true
Gun owners. - true
Government reformers. - um...how so? Because she has no experience? What exactly has she reformed.

...and the list goes on and on.

McCain's choice of Palin is a game changer. - True it is the hail mary pass. . . I will be waiting to see though if someone actually catches it for a touchdown. McCain really put himself out there with this one maybe it will pay off, but I think all it did was weaken his position.

It is just briliant.

ninavain 08-29-2008 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 14684186)
You make a strong point. Race is an issue. There are a lot of people who won't vote for Obama because he is black. They may not even realize that is the case. They just don't like him and deep down it is because of his race. The other day I had a conversation with someone who said he wouldn't vote Obama. After several questions he finally admitted that it may be because he is black and when he looks up and sees Obama and his family on TV they don't look like this guy's family and he can't connect with him. I don't think this guy is a racist, he just feels like he has nothing in common with a black guy.

For many people in this country they have very little exposure to black people. I was one of them. Growing up I knew exactly 1 black person from the time I was five until I was out of high school. We had had 1 black kid in my school and he was only there for a year. I wasn't a racist, I just didn't know any black people and had no exposure to them so I felt no connection to them. As I grew up and moved away that changed, but for many it doesn't. So you are right. There is the black/white issue and the big fight will be for those second tear voters. McCain is going with a conservative mother hoping to win the middle class women over while Obama is going with Biden hoping that he can use his experience in foreign policy to convince these middle class women that he will keep them safe.

To me the election really comes down to two things. 1. If McCain can connect with the independents and get the working class independent voters to vote for him in the swing states he will probably win (or at least make himself very hard to beat) and 2. If Obama can activate the far left and actually get them to put the bong down long enough on election day to vote he will win. Historically the far left talks a good game, but then fails to turn up at the polls on election day. The last guy to really activate them was Bill Clinton and he rode them to a win. If Obama can actually get them to vote he will be nearly impossible to beat. I find myself wondering of those two which is the harder task?


Well you can best believe there will be parties and BUS rides on voting day for ALL OBAMA voters, Bookmark this..The elecxtion won't even be close. OBAMA wins by landslide unless the Diebold voting machines are fixed as they were in 2000 and 2004
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germ 08-29-2008 09:32 PM

I dont really see how her being a woman automatically entails her winning the female vote for McCain.

Let's not forget that Joe Biden was the author of the Violence Against Women Act. If that doesnt make him a popular candidate with the females, I'm not sure what will.

notoldschool 08-29-2008 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 14685591)
I was wathching CNN and they had Clinton stooge Paul Begala give his views. I have never seen Begala so pissed off.. ever. LOL. What a beautiful thing!

Obama also looked worried. His faced was very long and all he could stammer is that Palin offers "more of the same" --whatever that means.

Palin gives the ticket:

A complimentary younger running mate to an old one.
A conservative running mate to a maverick/ RINO.
A healthy shot at the glass ceiling/ Hillary vote.

She appeals strongly to:

All men.
Soccer moms just like herself.
Red State America/ Rural America.
Working America.
Pacific/ Western States.
Evangelicals.
Gun owners.
Government reformers.
...and the list goes on and on.

McCain's choice of Palin is a game changer.

It is just briliant.

LOL..whats more funny is how pissed the republicans are that Obama is playing to crowds of millions and Mccain barely fills a back woods diner. I think the GOP tasted a little throw up in the back of their mouths watching someone with more than a fourth grade reading level rock the house while Americans waved flags looking all patriotic and shit. Your a dipshit and the useless woman wont change a thing and that is whats really funny.

EmpireAutopilot 08-29-2008 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 14685409)
Why doesn't Mccain just forfeit already and save America the time and money of a pointless election. Mccain has no chance of winning. I've been saying for months already, that this election will be the biggest landslide win for any president ever. Winner, Obama.

Personally, I dislike both Mccain and Obama. This election boils down to picking the lesser of two evils.

I thought this way back when it was rumored he'd run. That Bama' is something special. :thumbsup

EmpireAutopilot 08-29-2008 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 14685591)
I was wathching CNN and they had Clinton stooge Paul Begala give his views. I have never seen Begala so pissed off.. ever. LOL. What a beautiful thing!

Obama also looked worried. His faced was very long and all he could stammer is that Palin offers "more of the same" --whatever that means.

Palin gives the ticket:

A complimentary younger running mate to an old one.
A conservative running mate to a maverick/ RINO.
A healthy shot at the glass ceiling/ Hillary vote.

She appeals strongly to:

All men.
Soccer moms just like herself.
Red State America/ Rural America.
Working America.
Pacific/ Western States.
Evangelicals.
Gun owners.
Government reformers.
...and the list goes on and on.

McCain's choice of Palin is a game changer.

It is just briliant.

This shit is ludicrously funny. Wow are you blind. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

davidd 08-29-2008 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 14683809)
while trying to pander to women, they also send the message that a woman is good enough for vp but not for president.

No, the voters in the primaries did that... on the Democrat side of the house. It was then reinforced by the "Chosen One" with his "just another old dude" pick.

SoloGirlsContent 08-29-2008 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 14685591)
I was wathching CNN and they had Clinton stooge Paul Begala give his views. I have never seen Begala so pissed off.. ever. LOL. What a beautiful thing!

Obama also looked worried. His faced was very long and all he could stammer is that Palin offers "more of the same" --whatever that means.

Palin gives the ticket:

A complimentary younger running mate to an old one.
A conservative running mate to a maverick/ RINO.
A healthy shot at the glass ceiling/ Hillary vote.

She appeals strongly to:

All men.
Soccer moms just like herself.
Red State America/ Rural America.
Working America.
Pacific/ Western States.
Evangelicals.
Gun owners.
Government reformers.
...and the list goes on and on.

McCain's choice of Palin is a game changer.

It is just briliant.

YOu forgot 1 more thing she gives.. OBAMA/BIDEN THE WIN:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

davidd 08-29-2008 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 14684174)
People are retarded if they vote based on color. I thought most of those types would vote republican anyways. racism/sexism and being republican seem to go hand in hand.

:)

Clearly you did not look at the poll results from the southern states where Obama pulled 95% of all black voters. Who was voting on color?

Racism and Republicans? Who is the Secretary of State? Who was the Secretary of State? Who is on the Supreme Court? What party was the first party to seat black delegates (decades before the opposing party)? What was the political affiliation of Abraham Lincoln? What party has a former member of the KKK in office right now (HINT: Not the Republicans)

Sexism and the Republicans? Who is in the VP slot of the Republican ticket?

The facts do not fit your opinion... keep spouting your inaccuracies... it is cool.

SoloGirlsContent 08-29-2008 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidd (Post 14686180)
:)

Clearly you did not look at the poll results from the southern states where Obama pulled 95% of all black voters. Who was voting on color?

Racism and Republicans? Who is the Secretary of State? Who was the Secretary of State? Who is on the Supreme Court? What party was the first party to seat black delegates (decades before the opposing party)? What was the political affiliation of Abraham Lincoln? What party has a former member of the KKK in office right now? (HINT: Not the Republicans)

Sexism and the Republicans? Who is in the VP slot of the Republican ticket?

The facts do not fit your opinion... keep spouting your inaccuracies... it is cool.


BLACK DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA AT THE BEGINNING..WHen they seen he could be something special they started voting for him in SC and dropped Hillary, now he will get ALL votes but the rednecks and racists.. You can have those

GatorB 08-30-2008 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 14683787)
Personally as a Republican I think the pick is perfect and he just sealed the election. Of course we will have to see how it plays out. Politics is a tricky game.

You are so blinded. McCain's big deal on Obama is inexperience especially in foreign policy, She has none. Now you can say "well she's just the VP it doesn't matter" well if this was 2000 and McCain was 64 and if he didn't have cancer, yes, but he is 72 and has cancer. There are millions of voters that would consider voting for McCain but have issues with his age and health. And are worried who would be President if McCain should die or have to resign because of health. To deny this fact is stupid. Now does this pick allow those voters to put those concerns aside? Honestly answer that question. does it for you? Just imagine it's 2010 and McCain's cancer has returned and he's going to die and he resigns. Are you comfortable with President Palin? Is she putting fear into Osama bin Laden and al qaeda?

GatorB 08-30-2008 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidd (Post 14686180)
:)

Clearly you did not look at the poll results from the southern states where Obama pulled 95% of all black voters. Who was voting on color?

And Kerry and Gore got 90% of the black vote. Both hardly black. Obama brings in what, an extra 5%? Hillary probably would have gotten 93%

GatorB 08-30-2008 01:10 AM

Quote:

Palin gives the ticket:

A complimentary younger running mate to an old one
Yes let's make McCain look even OLDER. Let's hammer home the fact that McCain is OLD even more. REAL smart. Romney could have won Michigan for McCain for sure and also shore us McCain's admitted weakness on economics. Huckabee would have brought in the very conservative and Jesus voters and also assured McCain didn't lose any southern states.

spunkmaster 08-30-2008 01:24 AM

Obama has zero chance - none - never will happen people.

The cheerleaders on GFY are trying hard but it won't help.

Obama can't win !

pocketkangaroo 08-30-2008 04:25 AM

I still don't understand the pick. It completely takes the experience card McCain had off the table. His biggest selling point was that Obama doesn't have the experience to lead. Now he can't use it.

Wouldn't Romney have been a better pick? A guy who has some credentials economically along with the executive experience. Plus he says all the conservative stuff about hating gays and Mexicans.

GetSCORECash 08-30-2008 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 14685591)
She appeals strongly to:

All men.
Soccer moms just like herself.
Red State America/ Rural America.
Working America.
Pacific/ Western States.
Evangelicals.
Gun owners.
Government reformers.
...and the list goes on and on.

McCain's choice of Palin is a game changer.

It is just briliant.

You forgot that she is a HUNTER! and Eats Moose!

Who here has ever tasted Moose?

Socks 08-30-2008 04:51 AM

I thought it was hilarious she's up there saying she's gone against the "old boys club" while accepting her seat at their finest table. lol. wtf?

Socks 08-30-2008 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCORE-Cash (Post 14686738)
You forgot that she is a HUNTER! and Eats Moose!

Who here has ever tasted Moose?

Me? I've even seen one cut up with a chainsaw. :)

nico-t 08-30-2008 05:04 AM

people are blind sheep who base the rulers of the world on skin color, sex and the Republian or Democrate tag.

cykoe6 08-30-2008 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14686277)
You are so blinded.......


Are you comfortable with President Palin? Is she putting fear into Osama bin Laden and al qaeda?

Perhaps my optimism has affected my objectivity. Only time will tell how the pick works out. I personally think the positives outweigh the negatives.

As far as whether I would be comfortable with a President Palin........ I would certainly be more comfortable with her than with a President Obama. It is hard for me to imagine how I could be less comfortable with someone being President then I am with Obama.

germ 08-30-2008 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 14687127)
I would certainly be more comfortable with her than with a President Obama. It is hard for me to imagine how I could be less comfortable with someone being President then I am with Obama.

Please explain your reasoning behind that.

kane 08-30-2008 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14686725)
I still don't understand the pick. It completely takes the experience card McCain had off the table. His biggest selling point was that Obama doesn't have the experience to lead. Now he can't use it.

Wouldn't Romney have been a better pick? A guy who has some credentials economically along with the executive experience. Plus he says all the conservative stuff about hating gays and Mexicans.

I have always thought that he can't pick Romney for a couple of reasons. First, they hate each other and really went at each other in the primary. Those video clips would be all over the place should he pick Romney. Second, Romney is a Mormon. The conservative christian right is skeptical of McCain to begin with, you can imagine how they would feel if he picked the Mormon has his running mate. McCain knows he needs the Christian right if he is going to win and Romney would have done nothing to bring them to him and may have even hurt him.

kane 08-30-2008 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 14687127)
Perhaps my optimism has affected my objectivity. Only time will tell how the pick works out. I personally think the positives outweigh the negatives.

As far as whether I would be comfortable with a President Palin........ I would certainly be more comfortable with her than with a President Obama. It is hard for me to imagine how I could be less comfortable with someone being President then I am with Obama.

I'm curious why you feel that way. What does she bring to the table that he doesn't?

fatfoo 08-30-2008 01:08 PM

advantage Obama indeed

ninavain 08-30-2008 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkmaster (Post 14686327)
Obama has zero chance - none - never will happen people.

The cheerleaders on GFY are trying hard but it won't help.

Obama can't win !

he already has

Biggy 08-30-2008 01:55 PM

I think if you look at the choice of candidates in of itself, Obama is CLEARLY the better man for the job. If he is the ying, and Biden is the yang, its a great balance. He is preparing himself to do the best job.

McCain is just trying to win an election, he's not really preparing himself to run the country and there is a lot of work to do. I love the idiot Republicans who always and only vote party lines.. while I am mainly Democrat, I vote for who I think is the smartest person for the job, and McCain is a flat out moron. In last month's FORTUNE, he cited "terrorism" as the #1 threat to the economy.

McCain is a moron. It amazes me that people who were tricked into voting for GWB who was a monkey back then, is getting tricked into voting for another idiot monkey who doesn't know shit about shit. If you want politics in baseball & steroids, and you want everything overpoliticized, then go ahead and vote for McCain. If you're going to vote for McCain, then just be honest with yourself and admit its for lower taxes, because honestly, that's the only quality thing he brings to the table.

SoloGirlsContent 08-30-2008 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggy (Post 14688204)
I think if you look at the choice of candidates in of itself, Obama is CLEARLY the better man for the job. If he is the ying, and Biden is the yang, its a great balance. He is preparing himself to do the best job.

McCain is just trying to win an election, he's not really preparing himself to run the country and there is a lot of work to do. I love the idiot Republicans who always and only vote party lines.. while I am mainly Democrat, I vote for who I think is the smartest person for the job, and McCain is a flat out moron. In last month's FORTUNE, he cited "terrorism" as the #1 threat to the economy.

McCain is a moron. It amazes me that people who were tricked into voting for GWB who was a monkey back then, is getting tricked into voting for another idiot monkey who doesn't know shit about shit. If you want politics in baseball & steroids, and you want everything overpoliticized, then go ahead and vote for McCain. If you're going to vote for McCain, then just be honest with yourself and admit its for lower taxes, because honestly, that's the only quality thing he brings to the table.

he won't even lower taxes.. so rich folks don't get happy, cuz it ain't gonna happen.. we r in too much deep doo doo debt

Sethseekstruth 08-30-2008 05:27 PM

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8...137/486/580223

detailed info on the "its her grandbaby not her baby" story, with a lot of pics. OK, I gotta say, palin never looked preggo to me

EmpireAutopilot 08-30-2008 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sethseekstruth (Post 14688699)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8...137/486/580223

detailed info on the "its her grandbaby not her baby" story, with a lot of pics. OK, I gotta say, palin never looked preggo to me

Yay, I scooped Kos on GFY.

GatorB 08-30-2008 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkmaster (Post 14686327)
Obama has zero chance - none - never will happen people.

The cheerleaders on GFY are trying hard but it won't help.

Obama can't win !

Not sure if you are referring to me but I'm hardly an Obama cheerleader. Go back and read some of my posts during the primaries. To be honest I'm not real excited about either. And if Hillary had been the dem nominee I'd still be underwhelmed at my choices. I'm pointing out logical reason why this hurts McCain. So she's a gun nut. Gun nuts were already voting for McCain anyways. If McCain this this is going to attract Hilalry voters he crazy. The ones that were going to vote for McCain well they were going to vote for him anyways. The ones still on the fence? Well consdiering the majority of them are pro-choice and that is a BIG issue to them they aren't going to vote for McCain because he has a VP who is a woman since that VP is anti-abortion.

For every woman voters he may attract with this pick he lost 2 who had issues with his age/health. There is not ONE single person to whom McCain's age/health was a major issue for them who is now thinking "Yeah I feel better voting for McCain now."

Huckabee is a likeable guy, appeals to the Jesus crowd and was Governor for 10 years versus less than 2 for Palin. And Arkansas may be small it's bigger than Alaska. And while Huckabee is much younger than McCain, McCain doesn't look like he might be Huckabee's dad.

McCain's two biggest things he could use to get votes away from Obama were inexperience and too much youth. McCain ceeded that ground. BIG mistake. Everytime McCain brings up Obama's youth and inexperience all anyone has to to is ask. "Is Palin qualified to be President should something happen to you" If he says yes that Palin is more qualified than Obama that will be seen as a rediculous answer. If he says no, well then McCain looks stupid for picking someone who is a heartbeat away from running the most powerful nation on Earth, who he feels can't do the job. Either way he is fucked.

If I was Obama I would run a commercial that features a Prediential funeral with that narrator saying. "In a time of national crisis when the nation needs a leader who can take charge and calm and assure a nation in mourning, who do you trust?" Then show pictures of Biden and Palin. Who wins that match-up?

Malicious Biz 08-30-2008 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14685820)
LOL..whats more funny is how pissed the republicans are that Obama is playing to crowds of millions and Mccain barely fills a back woods diner. I think the GOP tasted a little throw up in the back of their mouths watching someone with more than a fourth grade reading level rock the house while Americans waved flags looking all patriotic and shit. Your a dipshit and the useless woman wont change a thing and that is whats really funny.

the extreme levels of butthurt you've been displaying in your posts here lately is fucking hilarious:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

nico-t 08-30-2008 08:56 PM

^^^when you support a politician (definition: One who makes money over the backs of the dumb people) you are fucking lost. What's it to you???? Seriously. What do you gain?

uno 08-31-2008 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 14686768)
I thought it was hilarious she's up there saying she's gone against the "old boys club" while accepting her seat at their finest table. lol. wtf?

I think its hilarious that she's all of a sudden anti-"bridge-to-nowhere".

GatorB 08-31-2008 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno (Post 14691000)
I think its hilarious that she's all of a sudden anti-"bridge-to-nowhere".

Yeah she didn't mind the $250 million when she wasn't running for VP now did she? just remember folks she supports Senator Ted "the internet isn't a truck, it's a series of tubes" Stevens.


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