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Old 10-17-2002, 10:49 AM   #1
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Introduction...new guy to beat up on!

I read this board every day, and find it both amusing and interesting, and I thought it was high time that I formally introduced myself.

I see a lot of people here that I don't know and that don't know me. For those of you that don't know me, I am the Director of Operations for NationalNet and have been in this industry since 1995.

For those of you that do know me...Go Fuck Yourself

Oh...and Lensman...

What do I have to do a new title under my nickname? "might be a spammer" indeed!
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Old 10-17-2002, 10:57 AM   #2
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welcome mate

oh and btw enjoy this post because its the only nice welcome youre gonna get
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Old 10-17-2002, 11:03 AM   #3
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Thanks for the surprisingly warm welcome Diggy...

Having spent some time on this board, I'm prepared for the worst

But...I can take it AND dish it out with the best of them...
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Old 10-17-2002, 11:04 AM   #4
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Old 10-17-2002, 11:05 AM   #5
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Welcome, but... you gotta be kidding with these rates:

Additional Domains
$20/setup | $5/month

Additional Transfer
$8.00$/Gig

Additional POP Acct
$2.50/month

Additional Storage
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-- $250 bucks/month for 50 gigs???
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Old 10-17-2002, 11:05 AM   #6
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New guy? HaHa. Liar!
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Old 10-17-2002, 11:05 AM   #7
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Thanks for the surprisingly warm welcome Diggy...

Having spent some time on this board, I'm prepared for the worst

But...I can take it AND dish it out with the best of them...
famous last words
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Welcome, but... you gotta be kidding with these rates:

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$8.00$/Gig

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-- $250 bucks/month for 50 gigs???
They can afford to charge whatever they want. National Net's not HUGE or anything ;-)
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Old 10-17-2002, 11:08 AM   #9
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What do I have to do a new title under my nickname? "might be a spammer" indeed!
It starts with your company hosting a wild night out at CybernetExpo/Adultdex. This includes VIP access to a nasty strip club and then getting up on stage at the House of Blues.

Oh wait...You guys did that last year.

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Old 10-17-2002, 11:09 AM   #10
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Welcome, and please go fuck yourself. Of course, since you are a host you will be excused for any temporary outages ....
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Old 10-17-2002, 11:14 AM   #11
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Yup....our rates ARE expensive. We have always been one of the more expensive hosts out there, if not THE most expensive host, but we have always backed those prices up with extreme support (the average turn around time for a work order is less than 10 minutes) and with our redundancies and with some other things we bring to the table that only our customers know about.
Sometimes price isn't EVERYTHING.

We didn't get as big as we are by not taking care of our customers

Now...with that said, we have some things in the works that I can't really go into, but suffice to say that it will be good, and it WILL be EXTREMELY affordable.
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Old 10-17-2002, 11:17 AM   #12
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Thanks Ganjasaurus....This went from an introduction to a SPAM because you opened the door.
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Old 10-17-2002, 11:18 AM   #13
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Welcome, and please go fuck yourself. Of course, since you are a host you will be excused for any temporary outages ....
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Yea right...you guys are ALWAYS ever so gracious to hosting companies when they have outages

Every host here has been the subject of a lengthy thread at one time or another because they weren't infallible
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Old 10-17-2002, 11:18 AM   #14
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Thanks Ganjasaurus....This went from an introduction to a SPAM because you opened the door.
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You know...I almost DIDN'T answer his post because no matter what I said, I was afraid that it would come off as spammy, and I didn't want that to be the case, but of course, I do have the right to defend myself
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Thanks Ganjasaurus....This went from an introduction to a SPAM because you opened the door.
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You know...I almost DIDN'T answer his post because no matter what I said, I was afraid that it would come off as spammy, and I didn't want that to be the case, but of course, I do have the right to defend myself
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Old 10-17-2002, 12:39 PM   #18
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Indeed.
WOW Aaron agreed with someone...

hehe kidding mate,
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natl seems tough on spammers so they get a from the blast as not being totally hypocritical
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Hey, it's LBBV straight from Tuscon! (although he denies it)

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natl seems tough on spammers so they get a from the blast as not being totally hypocritical
Thanks man. We've always tried to keep our reputation up to par, and dealing with spam and content thieves, etc is just part of it...

I myself hate spam.... One of our support email addresses got on a spam list, and we're adding filters daily just to keep the spam to this address under control. Because it's a support address, we really can't just shut it off
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Hey Lensman...what's up man?

20-some years in Tucson! Actually, I really do like Atlanta, however, days like today, where it's 45 degrees in the morning make my harley ride to the office sorta tough. But hey...that's what leather is for, right?
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where it's 45 degrees in the morning make my harley ride to the office sorta tough. But hey...that's what leather is for, right?
Not to some people.... I would not want to mention any specific employees of Lensman by name or anything....

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Not to some people.... I would not want to mention any specific employees of Lensman by name or anything....

Okay...I must say that I do NOT look like that when I wear MY leather...

That pic is TOOO funny!!!
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Okay...I must say that I do NOT look like that when I wear MY leather...

That pic is TOOO funny!!!
I dunno man, pretty close....minus the shaved head of course....

Atlanta by way of Tucson, screams Jeff Foxworthy's Wet Dream...........
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I dunno man, pretty close....minus the shaved head of course....

Atlanta by way of Tucson, screams Jeff Foxworthy's Wet Dream...........
Hey Sykkboy...wassup?

As you probably know, Jeff Foxworthy is ICON around this neck of the woods.

Since I've been here, I've learned cool phrases such as "yantoo", "momanem" and of course, the ubiquitous "ya-all"
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Hey Lensman...what's up man?

20-some years in Tucson! Actually, I really do like Atlanta, however, days like today, where it's 45 degrees in the morning make my harley ride to the office sorta tough. But hey...that's what leather is for, right?
Harley? Did somebody say Harley??

Welcome to the Board another Harley Rider, wow we have a few on here now

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Yup....our rates ARE expensive. We have always been one of the more expensive hosts out there, if not THE most expensive host, but we have always backed those prices up with extreme support (the average turn around time for a work order is less than 10 minutes) and with our redundancies and with some other things we bring to the table that only our customers know about.
Sometimes price isn't EVERYTHING.

We didn't get as big as we are by not taking care of our customers

Now...with that said, we have some things in the works that I can't really go into, but suffice to say that it will be good, and it WILL be EXTREMELY affordable.
traceroute to national-net.com (66.115.134.160)
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2 63.101.250.17 (63.101.250.17) 0.319 ms
3 0.so-1-0-0.GW8.TCO1.ALTER.NET (65.195.230.101) 0.619 ms
4 114.at-0-0-0.XR2.TCO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.43.158) 1.234 ms
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Hey LB! Long time no see, hon! Been keeping you locked in the dungeon over there, eh?

Welcome to the board and, of course...

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traceroute to national-net.com (66.115.134.160)
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Wow...you're really on to something here aren't you Mr conversationalist (what the hell...you can't even say hi?)

Yes...we have a Cogent line. It's one of many, and it's used ONLY for one big customer that we have that WANTED cheap BW and KNOWS that he's on Cogent. It's used for his outgoing BW only...we don't allow ANY other cystomer to go out thru this Cogent line, however we do allow traffic to come IN through this line IF BGP4 determines that it's the fastest route.

Here is a traceroute TOO you...oh look...no Cogent!

traceroute to 208.240.88.100 (208.240.88.100), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
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3 205.198.2.133 (205.198.2.133) 0.329 ms 0.359 ms 0.275 ms
4 205.198.10.74 (205.198.10.74) 63.525 ms 63.567 ms 63.545 ms
5 p9-2.edge1.pal-ca.us.xo.net (207.88.240.85) 62.753 ms 63.099 ms 62.731 ms
6 64.220.2.19 (64.220.2.19) 62.953 ms 62.79 ms 62.813 ms
7 206.111.12.118 (206.111.12.118) 79.226 ms 79.161 ms 79.287 ms
8 154.ATM3-0.XR1.SJC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.51.174) 79.278 ms 79.03 ms 79.445 ms
9 0.so-0-0-0.XL1.SJC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.55.114) 79.402 ms 79.448 ms 79.343 ms
10 0.so-3-0-0.TL1.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.53.250) 79.387 ms 79.296 ms 79.277 ms
11 0.so-1-1-0.TL1.DCA6.ALTER.NET (152.63.1.117) 103.922 ms 105.702 ms 104.035 ms
12 0.so-2-2-0.XL1.DCA8.ALTER.NET (152.63.41.137) 104.147 ms 103.954 ms 104.161 ms
13 189.at-6-0-0.GW8.DCA8.ALTER.NET (152.63.32.253) 98.48 ms 98.378 ms 98.537 ms
14 pos0-0.ur5.tco3.web.wcom.net (157.130.58.61) 98.838 ms 99.285 ms 98.914 ms
15 63.101.250.3 (63.101.250.3) 99.718 ms * 100.192 ms

Do you really think a company that hosts some of the largest, most high-profile sites on the web could get away with selling those big customers Cogent???

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Welcome to the board and, of course...

Hi Wenchy! How have you been doing?

I've been pretty busy, but I thought it was high time I started being more social
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Harley? Did somebody say Harley??

Welcome to the Board another Harley Rider, wow we have a few on here now

You can see me at Daytona, Sturgis, Laconia, Myrtle et al
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I came THIS close to getting a Fatboy, but decided on a new FXDL instead. Haven't been to Sturgis yet, although I am planning on the next one. Someone recommended this place to stay...

http://www.buffalochip.com

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Do you really think a company that hosts some of the largest, most high-profile sites on the web could get away with selling those big customers Cogent???

(See...I told you I could take it AND dish it out
I am liking this guy already. So far I only see one flaw but then again, nobody is perfect...right Kimmy?
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I am liking this guy already. So far I only see one flaw but then again, nobody is perfect...right Kimmy?
Only ONE flaw? Damn...I'm going to have to work on that...
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Only ONE flaw? Damn...I'm going to have to work on that...
It's a pretty big flaw though.
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It's a pretty big flaw though.
Okay...now you've gone and piqued my curiosity...dare I ask?
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Okay...now you've gone and piqued my curiosity...dare I ask?
How do you get any work done if you are sitting on GFY all the time now?


The answer to your question is in my prior response.
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How do you get any work done if you are sitting on GFY all the time now?


The answer to your question is in my prior response.
If you're saying what I "think" you're saying, then your true colors just showed through....
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If you're saying what I "think" you're saying, then your true colors just showed through....
You are entitled to your opinion. I will not judge you because of that. I would expect the same courtesy from others.

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You are entitled to your opinion. I will not judge you because of that. I would expect the same courtesy from others.
Well, unless I am misreading you, (which is highly possible, as both of us are doing a good job at playing word games) you have already judged me...

A couple of things you may want to know about me (or not)

I always take the high road when it comes to my competition.

EVERY hosting company has had problems at one time or another. One of the things that I have been known to say is "knowing what I know about the internet and how it works, and all the human's involved with running it, I'm amazed that it's as stable as it is"

I have seen good hosting companies trashed time and time again on this board...sometimes deservedly, sometimes not.

I have seen hosting companies come on here and take potshots at other hosting companies when they are having problems.

We recently had a problem with a new UPS...and yes...it caused an outage (in fact, we will be replacing it in about 2-3 days). One of the things about actually owning our own data center is that we don't have anyone to hide behind when there's a problem, and we take care of our customers when something like this happens. We paid out more in credits in that one month than most hosting companies gross in a year

Somehow, that's what I think you were referring to when you stated I had one "BIG FLAW". If I'm wrong...oh well.

Of course, with a board named "Go Fuck Yourself", I wouldn't expect anything less, in fact, I'd be disappointed to see anything otherwise!!! That's half the fun of being here...
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Well, unless I am misreading you, (which is highly possible, as both of us are doing a good job at playing word games) you have already judged me...
Nice reply...BUT you are misreading me. I have much respect for NationalNet and i have judged you with a ....Not that my opinion of you matters...

The flaw I speak of has nothing to do with the company you work for but with the possible company that you keep.
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Nice reply...BUT you are misreading me. I have much respect for NationalNet and i have judged you with a ....Not that my opinion of you matters...

The flaw I speak of has nothing to do with the company you work for but with the possible company that you keep.
Ah...well, after doing a bit of searching and seeing your new sig file, I'm pretty sure I know what you are speaking about.

Thanks for the and next time, just speak your mind

It's all good...
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