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Old 03-01-2008, 12:32 PM   #1
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Webcam Companies that offer a % Deal.

How many cam companies offer a % deal? I have a few questions...

- How long before the cookie expires?
- Do i make my % when the person loads the money or spends the money (big difference)?
- What happens if the person's credit card expires or they add multiple cards?
- Do I have to continue to send traffic to get credit for repeat sales?
- Do you send out newsletters and email reminders to the people who signed up through me but don't initial spend money, and if you do, do I get credit if they sign up through one of your emails ?

Any other points that would make 1 cam company stick out better than the rest?

People spam webcam sites on here a lot, the more I look into % deals with cams the more I am finding out there are a LOT of important factors you have to take into consideration, not just how much % you get paid.
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Old 03-01-2008, 12:41 PM   #2
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I've only had success with Pussy Cash, though I'm trying out a few other ppl now.

Can't help much I'm afraid, but you raise some interesting questions.
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I've only had success with Pussy Cash, though I'm trying out a few other ppl now.

Can't help much I'm afraid, but you raise some interesting questions.

I;ve been doing a little research on a few companies but would love to have them all come in here and tell us exactly how they opperate. PPS is a no brainer, you get paid for sales period, you just hope you don't get shaved. When it comes to % deals you can get " shaved " in so many ways. If my customer puts a second credit card on file because he maxed out the first will you give me credit for those sales???? Tons of little ways it seems like you can lose a whale in the wash.

Hopefully this wont be a spamming thread and we can get some reps or owners in here to explain to us exactly how their cam company works.
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How many cam companies offer a % deal? I have a few questions...

- How long before the cookie expires?
They are your customer for the lifetime of the account, no cookie to expire.

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- Do i make my % when the person loads the money or spends the money (big difference)?
We don't do loading money, it's per minute, so the answer is "when they spend it".

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- What happens if the person's credit card expires or they add multiple cards?
They're added to that same account and you get credit for all sales on it.

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- Do I have to continue to send traffic to get credit for repeat sales?
No. People who haven't sent a hit in years are still getting recurring checks.

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- Do you send out newsletters and email reminders to the people who signed up through me but don't initial spend money, and if you do, do I get credit if they sign up through one of your emails ?
The account is yours, so if an email reminder/newsletter gets sent and causes them to spend money, you get the same % you would as if they spent on the first day.

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They are your customer for the lifetime of the account, no cookie to expire.



We don't do loading money, it's per minute, so the answer is "when they spend it".



They're added to that same account and you get credit for all sales on it.



No. People who haven't sent a hit in years are still getting recurring checks.



The account is yours, so if an email reminder/newsletter gets sent and causes them to spend money, you get the same % you would as if they spent on the first day.

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So what about Cams.com, AWE, Webcams, who else does &#37; deals ?
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LOL funny how a thread dies when you ask real questions opposed to just people spamming a link.

Im going to bump this for a while till reps and program owners see it. I suspect some cam companies will rather ignore this thread than to answer the questions here.
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LOL funny how a thread dies when you ask real questions opposed to just people spamming a link.
This is GFY. Business threads have no place here. Go start a "would you hit it" thread if you want some responses.
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will76, you endorse MooCash as your favorite &#37; Cam Sponsor right? Would you care to elaborate on that?
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excellent thread will76, and i applaud mtree for their practices. i too agree the majority of cam sponsors who spam here all the time most likely will conveniently pass over this thread. and i will conveniently not use them

here's a bump for you
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- How long before the cookie expires?
14 days

- Do i make my &#37; when the person loads the money or spends the money (big difference)?
you get your share when person loads the money

-What happens if the person's credit card expires or they add multiple cards?
if this happend during the 14 days and he is using the same pc you will get % for the time left until the cookie expire

-Do I have to continue to send traffic to get credit for repeat sales?
YES

- Do you send out newsletters and email reminders to the people who signed up through me but don't initial spend money, and if you do, do I get credit if they sign up through one of your emails ?
NO and NO

Personal experience :
AWE is ok but the 14 days cookie sistem started to suck becouse of the many webmasters they have now, the " imaginary " pool of members is shrinking day by day .
If 2 weeks have passed then the member is back in the pool and "cookie free" so evey webmaster can catch members that were originaly brought by other fellow webmasters . ( if using PPS when brought then the member is lost for some years and awe takes it )
They added PPS wich was not so nice since they reduced a lot the chances for a revshare webmaster to have returning members .
There is much more to say such as livejasmin/livejasmine confusion, livejasmine account is a webmaster also of the original livejasmin site .
They have a very good product, there was a time i made 10K per month but time passed and i barely make 1K per month. Note : i do not send them same traffic as before since i discovered the "joy" to be paid for customers i brought years ago .

If you are able to make members return to your site every once in a while, bookmark it whatever ... awe is the best converting program with the best cam product, promo tools and very fast support .
In the last 4 years i never had any missed or delay on payments, i never had any unanswered email and i never had any unsolved problem.
10+ for the service .

I am not the "seize the day" type of guy and i am "greedy" thinking to my future and hope that some affiliate programs will pay me years after i am out of adult bussines .

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When it comes to cam companies with &#37; deals, there has to be a lot of trust involved. You're essentially becoming a partner with them. You're counting on years of rebills from the company. I also think transparency is real important. These would be the companies I recommend for % deals (note I haven't done revshare on all companies and there are companies I just feel are better with PPS because of their high payouts).

MooCash - Will and VG turned me on to them. I don't use Revshare with them now, but their system allows you to view every person you've sent to them and how much they've spent (even if you're sending to their PPS program). So if you're worried about revshare, use their PPS model and see how much you'd make on revshare. I think they have solid people working for them and I trust them with my traffic. If they add some more girls in the near future, they will be pretty deadly online.

Webcams.com - Pr0 turned me on to their revshare side (I had been sending via PPS for over a year). You own the member, get paid when they load money, and they send out reminder emails to people who created free accounts and didn't spend. They also let you track individual members (although they could make this feature a bit more user friendly) so you can see whales you're sending (they only show this in the revshare stats, not PPS). They have a lot of cam models now and their girls for some reason are much more aggressive with getting people into the private chats (which is good). Just from researching their site, I would think a member who signs up with them would have little reason to search for other sites. They pay $25 for free signups. I'm two months in, have sent a few hundred members and am already at $25 per signup with those members on revshare (plus I will own them for years). Their guys are also real friendly on ICQ and I've never had much trouble getting in touch with them about stuff.


You know you can always hit me up about any of the cam companies too.

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I responded to your other thread Will, but I like to cover them all for others as well about Webcams.com


- How long before the cookie expires?

No cookie, we store your affiliate ID in the customer's account information, so you get true LIFETIME revshare.

- Do i make my % when the person loads the money or spends the money (big difference)?

Yes, as soon as they make the purchase for site credit you are awarded revshare.(You don't have to wait for them to spend it on models) However with our free lifetime memberships using 1 of our 2 processors, customers have open-ended billing without having to make initial purchases. In these cases you will receive revshare for credit as they actually spend, as they have no need to purchase initial blocks of credit. Generally, customers with pre-authorized, open ended billing such as this spend more money, but if you don't like it I can set all your traffic to go to our other processor.

- What happens if the person's credit card expires or they add multiple cards?

They keep their original account, and their credit card info is just updated in our system. You continue receiving revshare for their purchases.

- Do I have to continue to send traffic to get credit for repeat sales?

Nope, you continue to get paid for every purchase they make even if you stop sending traffic to us.

- Do you send out newsletters and email reminders to the people who signed up through me but don't initial spend money, and if you do, do I get credit if they sign up through one of your emails ?

If the customers cancel their membership and try to rejoin later from a newsletter or by typing in webcams.com, it will reactivate their old membership with your reseller code stored.

Any other points that would make 1 cam company stick out better than the rest?

Webcams.com has over 400 models online 24/7. We have $4.99 trial memberships and free lifetime memberships, and you can change which membership you are selling by changing a single digit parameter in your linking code. Most programs make you choose revshare or PPS up front, but with us, again, it's a single digit parameter you can change at any time. We have free guest chat for unregistered members so our models will help your convert your traffic. We have all the RSS feeds you could ever need, including gallery feeds, blog feeds, online model feeds, etc. We will be launching embedded live chat ads in the next few days, as well as a few more suprises I think webmasters will find very profitable
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will76, you endorse MooCash as your favorite % Cam Sponsor right? Would you care to elaborate on that?
Actually I have been sending some traffic to Moocash for the % billing and I am pleased with the results so far.

I am hoping to hear from all the cam companies. Questions like this are very important and ones that you hardly ever hear people asking or answering on here. I would like to do a little check list and list all the cam companies and see how they stack up. Things like your whale putting a new credit card on file, do you continue to get credit for him? that stuff is huge imo.


Pocketkangaroo is right, its a lot about trust when you do a percentage deal with a company.
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anyone know how cams.com works? epic cams, who else is left ?
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Jago was faster webcams was next on my review.
It's like he said . Even better.
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who else is left ?
webcamcash ( spread4u / camclub ) and pussycash ( imlive )
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webcamcash ( spread4u / camclub ) and pussycash ( imlive )

cams.com / epic cams, private feeds, etc.
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- How long before the cookie expires?
more than a few months wich is enough for me

- Do i make my % when the person loads the money or spends the money (big difference)?
you get your share when person loads the money

-What happens if the person's credit card expires or they add multiple cards?
you still get credited for sales

-Do I have to continue to send traffic to get credit for repeat sales?
NO

- Do you send out newsletters and email reminders to the people who signed up through me but don't initial spend money, and if you do, do I get credit if they sign up through one of your emails ?
YES and YES ( tested this a while back and it was my links in the emails they sent to that member)

Real lifetime revshare program ! Coband pages are great .
They have quality girls at high prices .
They convert ok and they still pay me for members i brought 2 years ago .

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I do about a 25&#37; revshare / 75% PPS with them. Their biggest issue is they just don't convert well on getting someone to sign up and put money in. By far one of the worst out of all the cam sponsors. The upside is that they charge a fuckload per minute for cams ($5). So if you can get a whale in, you can make some major coin off them. Many of their girls aren't aggressive and their have been more and more scams being pulled by the cam girls (girls who go into nude chat section and leave the room thus the guy gets charged $4 for nothing). I know if I was a customer, I'd be pissed as all hell to have that happen to me and be charged for a full minute. I think their revshare would do better if they put in a 20 second window like Imlive does or just booted girls who pull that shit.


Epic Cams

I used to push them but they were honestly the worst cam sponsor I had used. On similar traffic, they did 1/2 of what MTree did (both have the same system). I don't know if there was something fishy going on behind the scenes, if I just didn't have enough data to judge, or whatever.
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LOL funny how a thread dies when you ask real questions opposed to just people spamming a link.
Probably starting the thread on a Friday afternoon when most reps are making plans for the evening didn't help. But keep bumping Monday afternoon and you'll get your just attention.

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There's 20+ listed in my sig. Unfortunately many of them don't post on GFY. Contrary to many people's opinion, that doesn't mean the company doesn't exist or they're minor league. Perhaps email/icq/call a few and see what they say ... If you're serious about getting answers and/or looking for a new sponsor, I'm sure some will get back to you.
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You should update the mtree entry. :) PPS is $40 for straight cams, $35 for gay and tranny. Revshare is 30% for all of them. And if you haven't tried sending traffic lately, send a bit and see how it does.
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Actually I have been sending some traffic to Moocash for the &#37; billing and I am pleased with the results so far.

I am hoping to hear from all the cam companies. Questions like this are very important and ones that you hardly ever hear people asking or answering on here. I would like to do a little check list and list all the cam companies and see how they stack up. Things like your whale putting a new credit card on file, do you continue to get credit for him? that stuff is huge imo.


Pocketkangaroo is right, its a lot about trust when you do a percentage deal with a company.
Well I'm not sure what to make of that... I wanted to confirm whether MooCash was your favorite % program. You had recommended to someone in a thread many months ago to go with them if they decide on %. I'd just like to know what the equivalent to ClickCash is for %.
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Which Cam Company?

-Gives your surfers $10 free to spend on the girls just for singing up and without even entering a credit card? (this is free money to help the surfer get comfortable to the system, to increase conversions) We pay the girls even on the free money. The girls like this as they have a chance to make money even on the freebies, and the webmasters like it as it increases conversions even days later.

-Knows that since expired and maxed cards aren't automatically added, does it manually. (others say this, let them show you how) Like I said, I know a lot about the billing mechanisms, and while others hint they do this, I know how hard our accounting department matches cards manually to accounts. 90% of all type ins, really should go to webmasters.

-Doesn't expire your members EVER, and no a few months isn't good enough!
(The average whale doesn't even get going until after the first few months)

-Knows that reps can talk, but the answers are in the program.

- Will never use Zango, third party traffic leaks, or non-paid upsells.

- Does not use the girls content.

NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY, pays out lifetime like Moocash does and gives the girls the respect they deserve.

up to 35% for LIFE


MOOCASH, can answer these and many other questions they way they should be answered.

Aren't you guys tired of the b.s.???

I'm glad Will is asking these questions, maybe Will I can get more of your traffic and others will try us as well. MoneyTrees system isn't bad, it shouldn't be bad, it came from Moocash. But Moocash is still the standard. Look closer and you will see.

Moocash was started by a camgirl and great technology, and to this day has the best affiliate software in the business. Where else can you see your users movements every hour of every day for years.

When you want to work with someone that WORKS with YOU, and doesn't expect you to work for them, hit me up.
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Well I'm not sure what to make of that... I wanted to confirm whether MooCash was your favorite &#37; program. You had recommended to someone in a thread many months ago to go with them if they decide on %. I'd just like to know what the equivalent to ClickCash is for %.
I've been trying to diversify my income to include referral (repeat sales).

I started sending traffic to moocash a few months back and as I learned more and more about % offers (the % deal I dont know a lot about it), I noticed there is several variables with % deals.

I started this thread to see how everyone else compared to moocash. I never heard of moocash until a couple months ago. I was familar with their sites, topcams, homesexnetwork, tricams but i wasn't familar with their affiliate program.

This is what I learned and why I like moocash:

- Cookie is good for life.
- They pay 35% which is the highest rate for Cams I have come across.
- It is Free for people to signup, no fees at all.
- The user gets $10 Free cam credits, i don't know of any company that loads every new account with $10. It's a great selling feature.
- If the member uses a new credit card you get credit for it. I hear not all sites really do this.
- You get paid when the money is loaded not when the person spends it on the chathost.
- They continue to send out news letters and special offers to the free users and if they signup from their email you still get credit for the sale.
- Their stats reporting is the best I have ever seen. It makes Cams.com stats look like a kid using an etchasketch.
- You don't see them on Torrent, Illegal Tube sites, or using Spyware traffic.

Other things that most people like but not as important to me:
they offer epass and wire transfers, and they offer hybrid plans (pps + repeat sales).


They seem like really honest people. I have never heard 1 thing bad about their company or the people who own it.

If you are looking to make % off of cam sales and you want to give them a try: http://www.moocash.com/?ref=27951 and hit me up if need some help.
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Old 03-02-2008, 10:50 PM   #31
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moocash has several sites.. which one is the best to do on &#37; using iframes..
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:57 AM   #32
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- How long before the cookie expires?
We use Flash cookies which are set to not expire. Once your surfer is signed up as free member the affiliate id will be yours for life

- Do i make my % when the person loads the money or spends the money (big difference)?
Loads

- What happens if the person's credit card expires or they add multiple cards?
When your members updates their card you are still credited with future purchases. You are also credited with all sales from all cards they add should they use multiple cards.

- Do I have to continue to send traffic to get credit for repeat sales?
No

- Do you send out newsletters and email reminders to the people who signed up through me but don't initial spend money, and if you do, do I get credit if they sign up through one of your emails ?
Yes and Yes you do

Any other points that would make 1 cam company stick out better than the rest?
We will work with you as much as you want to maximize sales be that on custom tools, which I would say our turnaround time for is quick, or simple advice/suggestions on the best way to try promoting us.

Our payouts are flexible for those sending good traffic/sales.

We value all our affiliates and can offer many custom solutions. This should go without saying but there does seem to be a trend of being aloof and ingnoring affiliate support these days!
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:19 AM   #33
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I think webcams.com's subscription system is pretty slick... If you are sending to the $4.99 membership sites, you make 60% revshare on the trial and the $39.95 monthly rebill in addition to 25% of the money spent on minutes... Sort of a bonus paysite-style income on top of the actual money spent on live chat.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:20 AM   #34
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I'm glad Will is asking these questions, maybe Will I can get more of your traffic and others will try us as well. MoneyTrees system isn't bad, it shouldn't be bad, it came from Moocash. But Moocash is still the standard. Look closer and you will see.
Seriously, what the fuck are you smoking? Moneytree system came from Moocash? That must be some good shit, pass it around...
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Seriously, what the fuck are you smoking? Moneytree system came from Moocash? That must be some good shit, pass it around...
Little known fact, Moneytree's cam system was from Tricams. I was in the office at FCI and Moneytree then. I had meetings with Sean and the owners of Moocash back then. When they seperated Tricams didn't have anywhere near the machine behind them, but still here they are.

After 11 years in this industry, trust me, I've seen it all.
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:58 PM   #36
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How many cam companies offer a &#37; deal? I have a few questions...

- How long before the cookie expires? I’ll get back to you on that one

- Do I make my % when the person loads the money or spends the money (big difference)?
As soon as the charge is made on the credit car, the commission is payable.

- What happens if the person's credit card expires or they add multiple cards?
Doesn’t matter as it’s in the same customer account and that account is patched to your affiliate ID.

- Do I have to continue to send traffic to get credit for repeat sales?
No, but the more traffic you send in, the more the potential for sales and we pay twice a month on gross sales forever.

- Do you send out newsletters and email reminders to the people who signed up through me but don't initial spend money, and if you do, do I get credit if they sign up through one of your emails?
As far as I know, no and no, but I’ll confirm this in due time as far as potential future projects are concerned.

Any other points that would make 1 cam company stick out better than the rest?
Again, we pay up to 40% in revshare on gross sales every 2 weeks (NEVER missed a payout… Gammae is extremely reliable). As an indicator, our average conversion ratio for 2007 was 1/88 and 1/86 for 2008 up to Feb 29th!

Check it out for yourself and see how it fairs with your traffic! Input and feedback always welcome!

People spam webcam sites on here a lot, the more I look into % deals with cams the more I am finding out there are a LOT of important factors you have to take into consideration, not just how much % you get paid.
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Which programs offer cobrand?
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In addition to our $100 payouts for every ImLive.com sign-up, PussyCash has a 20% LIFETIME rev share program. Since ImLive is the BIGGEST webcam site with over 25,000 video chat hosts online to serve your traffic, you can be sure you'll get the most bang with us. To answer your questions:

- How long before the cookie expires? 45 days

- Do i make my % when the person loads the money or spends the money (big difference)? When the person makes a purchase (loads the money)

- What happens if the person's credit card expires or they add multiple cards? ImLive users purchase Credit in finite amounts. There are no automatic renewals so it doesn't matter if his credit card expires after a legitimate purchase. He can change credit cards up to 20 times and ImLive will continue to count the user's purchases towards your rev share after every purchase he makes


- Do I have to continue to send traffic to get credit for repeat sales? No

- Do you send out newsletters and email reminders to the people who signed up through me but don't initial spend money, and if you do, do I get credit if they sign up through one of your emails ? We only send out email to registered users. When they return to the site and use the account they registered for when you referred them, you are credited for their purchases.

Any other points that would make 1 cam company stick out better than the rest? ? Don?t forget That in ImLive.com once a user signed up under you he is yours for life.

We will always be around to get you what you need and help you make the most out of your traffic.

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Sorry guys but anyone with a cookie that expires less than 1 year from now will never see traffic from me.
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Dollar Pimp also offers co-branding.
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Bump for CamSpotCash.com

Can anyone vouch for them? Can they come vouch for themselves? Anyone here done any business with them and if so how did it go? Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=moses;13857148]You should update the mtree entry. PPS is $40 for straight cams, $35 for gay and tranny. Revshare is 30% for all of them. And if you haven't tried sending traffic lately, send a bit and see how it does.[/QUO

30%? To make any real profit you gota get alot of big spenders.
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