| Pleasurepays |
12-18-2007 09:57 PM |
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Originally Posted by GatorB
(Post 13534026)
You're assuming these women know who the fathers actually are. If the father doesn't work then sure he gets thrown in jail but it's still MY dime paying for his kids and now I'm paying for his incarceration too on top of it. That really doesn't help anything.
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i am not assuming anything. i didn't make any absolute statements about anything. and i certainly didn't use the words "always", "everytime" and "without exception"
1) if the woman has no clue who the father of her child is...then unless she was raped, she is not fit to be a parent. i would say thats a pretty sound general rule.
Maury Povich devotes an hour everyday on TV to proving that very point.
2) the woman MAKES THE CHOICE TO HAVE A BABY... not the man
3) you are talking about a tiny minority... not the majority of cases. the point is simply that fathers ARE held accountable and pointing out exceptions does not disprove the general rule.
but you're right... it shouldn't be "our problem" when the father is in jail and we shouldn't be subsidizing and rewarding morons for being morons. the fact of the matter is that its not black and white and there are victims, exceptions etc. its a question of doing more harm than good when we do not discourage this behavior.
for me, the problem is that there aren't adequate negative consequences for bad choices and bad behavior. we reward women for shooting future inmates out of their vagina just as fast as they can do it. i think we tolerate far too much when it comes to parents and parenting and the shitty decisions they make and the lives they destroy.
am i the only one to remember welfare reforms? people do abuse and milk the system when they can. the core issue was simply that when you reward poor women for having babies... they have more babies. |
