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Old 12-09-2007, 11:10 AM   #101
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It's funny how some of you are forgetting that the majority of recent and past massacres were carried out by what race group?
Asian?
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this thread as well as the stupid racist posting racial stuff in it is dumb and does not represent the adult community or white people as a whole in any way

just wanted to clarify that for any newbs or outsiders reading this


and now i will no longer read or post in his thread

have fun with your made up mindset and fake statements while trying to promote hate

hope you figure out that no one likes you guys before you spend to much time on hate
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Old 12-09-2007, 11:25 AM   #103
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this thread as well as the stupid racist posting racial stuff in it is dumb and does not represent the adult community or white people as a whole in any way

just wanted to clarify that for any newbs or outsiders reading this


and now i will no longer read or post in his thread

have fun with your made up mindset and fake statements while trying to promote hate

hope you figure out that no one likes you guys before you spend to much time on hate
Yo, ignorant racist, why dont you comment on the fucked up crime stats that involve blacks. Why do you keep fucking ignoring and just keep pointing to whites and cry racism. Fucking hypocrite racist.
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im bored I can play with a retards mind for a moment or two

Howabout this...

why donyt you go dig up the race statistics for the following:

Child Rapist
Child murderers
People who kill inocent people
Pretty much any sort of crime against defenseless children
Theft Overall

official FBI's crime reports:

* Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.
* In the last 30 years, blacks committed 170 million violent and non-violent crimes against whites.
* Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than whites under 18.
* About 90% of the victims of interracial crimes are white.
* Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites, although whites outnumber blacks by 7 to 1.
* On a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crime than whites.
* Black neighborhoods are 35 times more violent than white neighborhoods.
* Of the 27 million nonviolent robberies, 31% (8.4 million) were committed by blacks against whites. Less than 2% were committed by whites against blacks.
* Of the 6.6 million violent crimes, 20% (1.3 million) were interracial.
* Of the the 1.3 million interracial violent crimes, 90% (1.17 million) are black against white.
* In the past 20 years, violent crime increased four times faster than the population.


now STFU.
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official FBI's crime reports:

* Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.
* In the last 30 years, blacks committed 170 million violent and non-violent crimes against whites.
* Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than whites under 18.
* About 90% of the victims of interracial crimes are white.
* Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites, although whites outnumber blacks by 7 to 1.
* On a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crime than whites.
* Black neighborhoods are 35 times more violent than white neighborhoods.
* Of the 27 million nonviolent robberies, 31% (8.4 million) were committed by blacks against whites. Less than 2% were committed by whites against blacks.
* Of the 6.6 million violent crimes, 20% (1.3 million) were interracial.
* Of the the 1.3 million interracial violent crimes, 90% (1.17 million) are black against white.
* In the past 20 years, violent crime increased four times faster than the population.


now STFU.
That idiot will just ignore it. He doesnt want to know about it. And if you tell him about it he will call you a racist. Unbelievable. What a sad way to live your life.
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That idiot will just ignore it. He doesnt want to know about it. And if you tell him about it he will call you a racist. Unbelievable. What a sad way to live your life.
There is no question that blacks commit a lot more crimes than other races. But the question is whether it's caused by their race, or by the fact that they are typically much poorer and have less education. Education and poverty are what causes high crime levels, not the type of melanin in their body.
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official FBI's crime reports:

* Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.
* In the last 30 years, blacks committed 170 million violent and non-violent crimes against whites.
* Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than whites under 18.
* About 90% of the victims of interracial crimes are white.
* Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites, although whites outnumber blacks by 7 to 1.
* On a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crime than whites.
* Black neighborhoods are 35 times more violent than white neighborhoods.
* Of the 27 million nonviolent robberies, 31% (8.4 million) were committed by blacks against whites. Less than 2% were committed by whites against blacks.
* Of the 6.6 million violent crimes, 20% (1.3 million) were interracial.
* Of the the 1.3 million interracial violent crimes, 90% (1.17 million) are black against white.
* In the past 20 years, violent crime increased four times faster than the population.


now STFU.
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There is no question that blacks commit a lot more crimes than other races. But the question is whether it's caused by their race, or by the fact that they are typically much poorer and have less education. Education and poverty are what causes high crime levels, not the type of melanin in their body.
Whats stopping them from not being poor and educated? Take Africa for example. A huge continent, filled with natural resources to the brim, and what do they do there? Kill and rape each other and then starve to death.

Ok, i know, you're gonna say Whitey is responsible. LOL

Black people blaming white society for all their problems is a joke.

Look at the Asians, Mexicans, and Indians. They bust their butts and are making good of opportunities both offered (education) and made (New businesses) for themselves.

If I was black, I'd be wondering why my race wasn't advancing and be very afraid and ashamed.
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There is no question that blacks commit a lot more crimes than other races. But the question is whether it's caused by their race, or by the fact that they are typically much poorer and have less education. Education and poverty are what causes high crime levels, not the type of melanin in their body.
There are more whites than blacks living below the poverty line.

16.7 million whites
9 million blacks

http://www.solvingpoverty.com/PovertyFacts.htm

It's culture than causes the spike in crime rates and attitudes like pussyserver's that allow it to proliferate, not race or poverty.
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Whats stopping them from not being poor and educated? Take Africa for example. A huge continent, filled with natural resources to the brim, and what do they do there? Kill and rape each other and then starve to death.

Ok, i know, you're gonna say Whitey is responsible. LOL

Black people blaming white society for all their problems is a joke.

Look at the Asians, Mexicans, and Indians. They bust their butts and are making good of opportunities both offered (education) and made (New businesses) for themselves.

If I was black, I'd be wondering why my race wasn't advancing and be very afraid and ashamed.
I think there are multiple reasons. First off, we really haven't been far removed from a time where blacks couldn't vote, own property, go to good schools, etc. They had no money, no businesses. You can't just step right into society when you control absolutely NOTHING and expect to compete with others. It's the same reason why you don't see a high percentage of women owning companies and making millions. Money and power doesn't change quickly, it take many generations. Ask yourself who is most likely to have money, Bill Gates grandkids or the poor white trailer trash grandkid.

Africa is a fucked up place, but it's fucked up in large part due to what Europe did to it. Conquering lands, imposing laws, and pillaging the lands for resources doesn't exactly help build a part of the world. Read Guns, Germs, and Steel and you'll get a fascinating look at why certain races and cultures thrived over others and were able to keep others down.

I think it's wrong for blacks and any race to sit back and blame others while doing nothing to fix the problem. But there is no denying that the reason minorities and women are poorer in this country is due in large part to what this country did to them for centuries. It's like joining a monopoly game after everyone has been playing for 2 hours and owns all the properties on the board.

But none of this is really what we are arguing. The argument is whether race is the cause of crime of poverty. Statistics show it is poverty.
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There are more whites than blacks living below the poverty line.

16.7 million whites
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http://www.solvingpoverty.com/PovertyFacts.htm

It's culture than causes the spike in crime rates and attitudes like pussyserver's that allow it to proliferate, not race or poverty.
I agree that culture plays a huge role in it. But there is no denying that poverty doesn't play a role either. Look at the crime rates for a black male making over $100k a year and one making under $20k a year.
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Africa is a fucked up place, but it's fucked up in large part due to what Europe did to it. Conquering lands, imposing laws, and pillaging the lands for resources doesn't exactly help build a part of the world.
Seems to have worked out pretty well in North America.
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I agree that culture plays a huge role in it. But there is no denying that poverty doesn't play a role either. Look at the crime rates for a black male making over $100k a year and one making under $20k a year.
What are theose rates? How can I "look at the crime rates" when you don't post reference links?
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I think there are multiple reasons. First off, we really haven't been far removed from a time where blacks couldn't vote, own property, go to good schools, etc. They had no money, no businesses. You can't just step right into society when you control absolutely NOTHING and expect to compete with others. It's the same reason why you don't see a high percentage of women owning companies and making millions. Money and power doesn't change quickly, it take many generations. Ask yourself who is most likely to have money, Bill Gates grandkids or the poor white trailer trash grandkid.

Africa is a fucked up place, but it's fucked up in large part due to what Europe did to it. Conquering lands, imposing laws, and pillaging the lands for resources doesn't exactly help build a part of the world. Read Guns, Germs, and Steel and you'll get a fascinating look at why certain races and cultures thrived over others and were able to keep others down.

I think it's wrong for blacks and any race to sit back and blame others while doing nothing to fix the problem. But there is no denying that the reason minorities and women are poorer in this country is due in large part to what this country did to them for centuries. It's like joining a monopoly game after everyone has been playing for 2 hours and owns all the properties on the board.

But none of this is really what we are arguing. The argument is whether race is the cause of crime of poverty. Statistics show it is poverty.
I agree with some of what you say, but find certain parts of your post to sound a lot like making excuses for some reason. For one thing, I know it's rather simplistic but no less true.... on looking back through history it's found that while Anglo cultures were busy figuring out ways of forming governments and building their nations through democratic means, most of Africa was standing outside their mud huts waiting to be conquered and exploited. In fact many nations in Africa are many centuries older than the US for example, yet in all that time have accomplished very little in the way of modern progress.

All I seem to see in such countries are news clips showing them suffering overpopulation, their women squeezing out baby after baby, their dictatorships being overthrown or their so-called militaries reigning death and mayhem down on their people decade after decade.

Why is that again?

Complex problems, it seems to take countries like GB or the US to send in teams to help them reform their government and their entire infrastructure, yet that rarely if ever works either... because there's always an "uprising" where part of the population fights against progress and change.

Running in and feeding them offers no long term solution. A year later they are all still starving and crying out for help.

Thankfully in the US the black community has such things as the United Negro College fund and several other programs offered only to blacks to give them a way to make something of themselves. While I'm all for the goal I do think it's interesting that if there were to be a "United WHITE colleg fund" or a "White history month" etc there would be hell raised by the black community.

Thankfully here in Canada most tend to not focus on color that much. We have every minority under the sun just as others do, and some racial tension like anywhere else... just not to the degree as that of the US. Black, white, red, yellow, whatever, makes no difference to me as long as you're law-abiding and making something of yourself instead of out stealing other people's shit.

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The argument is whether race is the cause of crime of poverty. Statistics show it is poverty.
Bullshit.

Blacks would rather kill, rape, steal, riot, and spread AIDS than work.

You give them welfare, money, jobs, college educations and they won't do shit to help themselves.
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Bullshit.

Blacks would rather kill, rape, steal, riot, and spread AIDS than work.

You give them welfare, money, jobs, college educations and they won't do shit to help themselves.
So your scientific argument is that the type of melanin in your body is directly correlated to the amount of violence they will commit?
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What are theose rates? How can I "look at the crime rates" when you don't post reference links?
The FBI and DOJ has some pretty detailed statistics on that stuff. Here is just one of the things I found running a search:

http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/ecp.pdf
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So your scientific argument is that the type of melanin in your body is directly correlated to the amount of violence they will commit?
melanin?

there is scientific proof that Black people are less intelligent.

James Watson, a Nobel Prize winner for his part in the unravelling of DNA:

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"All our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says not really"

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The FBI and DOJ has some pretty detailed statistics on that stuff. Here is just one of the things I found running a search:

http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/ecp.pdf
I'm not sure how a link showing that a large percentage of inmates dropped out of high school is supposed to back up your assertion that poverty is the reason for high black crime rates. If poverty were the reason the statistics would be skewed towards whites as there's almost twice as many whites living below the poverty line as blacks. Using poverty as an excuse simply doesn't wash.
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melanin?

there is scientific proof that Black people are less intelligent.

James Watson, a Nobel Prize winner for his part in the unravelling of DNA:
The reason you are white and a black person is black is due to the fact that you have lower level of melanin than a black person. It is an extremely minor genetic difference.

Watson's views are highly controversial and many other experts have said they are ridiculous. Nonetheless, Watson doesn't necessarily state in his memoir that race is the reason, he states that the evolution of intelligence may be based on the geographical location of their ancestors. I don't necessarily disagree with this, but there is a big difference in saying someone whos ancestors came from Africa would be less intelligent, than someone saying that the more melanin in your body the less intelligent you are (which you are saying by stating that blacks are less intelligent than whites).
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Look at the Asians, Mexicans, and Indians. They bust their butts and are making good of opportunities both offered (education) and made (New businesses) for themselves.

If I was black, I'd be wondering why my race wasn't advancing and be very afraid and ashamed.
Depends on where you go. Go to Japan, they'll have similar complaints about the Korean minority community there. Go to Britain, they'll have similar complains about Indians. Go to California, they'll have similar complaints about Mexicans. Go to Nothern Canada, they'll have similar complaints about Native Indians. Go to Australia, they'll have similar complaints about Aboriginals. Go to Israel, they'll have similar complaints about Sephardic Jews.

By the way, the Asian, Indian, and African immigrants tend to do better than native Americans and Canadians because they're typically the cream of the crop who emigrate to North America.
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I'm not sure how a link showing that a large percentage of inmates dropped out of high school is supposed to back up your assertion that poverty is the reason for high black crime rates. If poverty were the reason the statistics would be skewed towards whites as there's almost twice as many whites living below the poverty line as blacks. Using poverty as an excuse simply doesn't wash.
If it's based on race and not other factors, why are the percent of inmates not the same for those who have high education levels? Why do low levels of education dominate our prison system? Wouldn't a black man with a post-graduate degree be just as likely to be in prison as one who dropped out of high school?

Poverty is not an excuse. I'm just stating that education and poverty play a role in crimes.
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there is scientific proof that Black people are less intelligent.

James Watson, a Nobel Prize winner for his part in the unravelling of DNA:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/op...=1&oref=slogin
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LOL, you're a funny guy. Are you a comedian?
whats funny about any of this?

really its sad I judge a person on who they are not the color of there skin no what they chose to believe in but I am sick of all the double standards I am sick of people playing the race card and that was the point I was trying to make. A crime is a crime, a victim is a victim but unfortunately if that victim is anything but white people go right for race, color, or creed.

Lets take the Jena 6 facts the white kids were wrong no grey area they area wrong inexcusable and should have been punished to the full extent of the law. the black kids were wrong no grey area wrong if you cannot agree then you are a moron

the big deal was made about one of the black kids being punished to severely much more than any of the others and they were protests and marches and vigils and fundraisers but does anyone know why his punishment was so much more???? IT WAS HIS THIRD STRIKE HE WAS ON PROBATION AND THIS WAS A VIOLATION OF HIS PROBATION AND THAT IS WHY HIS PUNISHMENT WAS SO SEVER. Not because he was black if he was white,yellow,orange,red,plaid and got his third strike and violated probation the punishment would have been the same. and that double standard that manipulation of racism is what is keeping it alive
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So innocent;
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So convicted of child rape:


http://www.newsamericanow.com/archiv..._dateline.html

Stereotyping : What a waste of the human brain.
She never would have been convicted if it wasn't for the old ugly wives of the officers and judges.

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I think Franck's trying to say:

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official FBI's crime reports:

* Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.
* In the last 30 years, blacks committed 170 million violent and non-violent crimes against whites.
* Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than whites under 18.
* About 90% of the victims of interracial crimes are white.
* Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites, although whites outnumber blacks by 7 to 1.
* On a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crime than whites.
* Black neighborhoods are 35 times more violent than white neighborhoods.
* Of the 27 million nonviolent robberies, 31% (8.4 million) were committed by blacks against whites. Less than 2% were committed by whites against blacks.
* Of the 6.6 million violent crimes, 20% (1.3 million) were interracial.
* Of the the 1.3 million interracial violent crimes, 90% (1.17 million) are black against white.
* In the past 20 years, violent crime increased four times faster than the population.


now STFU.
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There are more whites than blacks living below the poverty line.

16.7 million whites
9 million blacks

http://www.solvingpoverty.com/PovertyFacts.htm

It's culture than causes the spike in crime rates and attitudes like pussyserver's that allow it to proliferate, not race or poverty.
black population is about 11% of US isn't it? whites would be about 70%, right?
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official FBI's crime reports:

* Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.
* In the last 30 years, blacks committed 170 million violent and non-violent crimes against whites.
* Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than whites under 18.
* About 90% of the victims of interracial crimes are white.
* Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites, although whites outnumber blacks by 7 to 1.
* On a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crime than whites.
* Black neighborhoods are 35 times more violent than white neighborhoods.
* Of the 27 million nonviolent robberies, 31% (8.4 million) were committed by blacks against whites. Less than 2% were committed by whites against blacks.
* Of the 6.6 million violent crimes, 20% (1.3 million) were interracial.
* Of the the 1.3 million interracial violent crimes, 90% (1.17 million) are black against white.
* In the past 20 years, violent crime increased four times faster than the population.


now STFU.

Those numbers are amazing .........
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black population is about 11% of US isn't it? whites would be about 70%, right?
Yes. What's your point?
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Interesting opinions and info in this thread.


So, let me ask you guys, would the USA be better off without black people?
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I was robbed at gunpoint. He stole my wallet which had $7.13, a library card, and a driver's license.

Guess the race.



My old man works for an energy company known as Enron he lost everything.
Guess the race of the man that robbed him.


When black people steal, they think small. Wallets, houses, convenience stores. When white people steal they think big, like pension funds, millions in securities fraud... you get the idea.
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Old 12-09-2007, 10:29 PM   #134
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So, let me ask you guys, would the USA be better off without black people?
Do you mean without Black People, or N#&&*$s.
Black people have done a lot to develop and build this country.
Most Black People dont want the N#&&*$s here either the black our white ones.
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Old 12-09-2007, 10:45 PM   #135
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So now we can organize a march on their perpetrators homes and protest, right? 'Cause if the races were reversed all the black leaders would be jumping up on TV screaming for justice and organizing marches!

Where are the black leaders now? I would like to see one of them stand up and call these fuckers out. It is pretty chicken shit if you ask me.
minority are not good for self-critics..
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So, let me ask you guys, would the USA be better off without black people?
Blacks, like unions, were very necessary to get this country going. Now, like unions, all they do is ruin shit.
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Blacks, like unions, were very necessary to get this country going. Now, like unions, all they do is ruin shit.
and it's exactly this attitude that's causing all the trouble....as we treat them
like they're not needed it anymore and that we want to get rid of them

People aren't disposable without consequences.......
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How come I never had teachers that looked like this and took advantage of me like she did of that kid when I was 14 ?
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So, let me ask you guys, would the USA be better off without black people?
The NFL and NBA would suck without them.

I think we need to rethink this. :D
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I think there are multiple reasons. First off, we really haven't been far removed from a time where blacks couldn't vote, own property, go to good schools, etc. They had no money, no businesses. You can't just step right into society when you control absolutely NOTHING and expect to compete with others. It's the same reason why you don't see a high percentage of women owning companies and making millions. Money and power doesn't change quickly, it take many generations. Ask yourself who is most likely to have money, Bill Gates grandkids or the poor white trailer trash grandkid.

Africa is a fucked up place, but it's fucked up in large part due to what Europe did to it. Conquering lands, imposing laws, and pillaging the lands for resources doesn't exactly help build a part of the world. Read Guns, Germs, and Steel and you'll get a fascinating look at why certain races and cultures thrived over others and were able to keep others down.

I think it's wrong for blacks and any race to sit back and blame others while doing nothing to fix the problem. But there is no denying that the reason minorities and women are poorer in this country is due in large part to what this country did to them for centuries. It's like joining a monopoly game after everyone has been playing for 2 hours and owns all the properties on the board.

But none of this is really what we are arguing. The argument is whether race is the cause of crime of poverty. Statistics show it is poverty.

Gee, I wonder if your little theory applies to that Korean family that arrives to the US off a boat without speaking a lick of english and having no money, fast forward several years later, set up with their own business and their little Kim Sum attending UCLA. And that scenario is not an exception to the norm.
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Hitler was Jewish also..the irony of a madman.
Being Jewish is not a birth thing its a choice. ( kind of like being Catholic or Baptist. ) His Mother was jewish, he was not.
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Being Jewish is not a birth thing its a choice. ( kind of like being Catholic or Baptist. ) His Mother was jewish, he was not.
oh my..tell that to the old school Rabbi's. Alot of the Jewish community feel its a birth thing..not a choice.
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I thought this was kind of cool:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3022190.ece

James Watson's DNA shows that he's 16% black.

Maybe he would argue it only effected him from the waist down.
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